View Full Version : Size almost has nothing to do with it when it comes to Floyd


TyrantT316
06-27-2005, 10:07 AM
Floyd never relies on his size in fights. Sometimes he will allow himself to get on the ropes and let a wild swinging puncher bomb away to tire them out, land a fee crisp shots, and get out of there back to the center of the ring...

the only time Floyd tries to prove he is strong is when he puts himself in the pocket with his shoulder roll in the middle of the ring like he did vs Ndou and Brucelles (spelling?)...other than that he seems like the type of fighter that could weigh 145lbs vs a middleweight and win with his speed, movement, accurace, and intelligence alone...

jack_the_rippuh
06-27-2005, 10:47 AM
Agreed. People talk about his opponents having a punchers chance, they talk about him being beat if he keeps moving up in weight, but the truth is, he has something what seperates him from all the other fighters who were sensations at the lower weight divisions and turned sorry once they moved up...and that something is his defense and quickness.

spinksjinx
06-27-2005, 10:49 AM
Agreed. People talk about his opponents having a punchers chance, they talk about him being beat if he keeps moving up in weight, but the truth is, he has something what seperates him from all the other fighters who were sensations at the lower weight divisions and turned sorry once they moved up...and that something is his defense and quickness.


What happens when his quickness takes a detour? Hopefully Floyd doesnt stick around that long.

jack_the_rippuh
06-27-2005, 10:50 AM
He has the basic fundamentals to fall back on.

Zab Super Judah
06-27-2005, 11:13 AM
Agreed. People talk about his opponents having a punchers chance, they talk about him being beat if he keeps moving up in weight, but the truth is, he has something what seperates him from all the other fighters who were sensations at the lower weight divisions and turned sorry once they moved up...and that something is his defense and quickness.

so whats the max weight that you think he could fight at

jack_the_rippuh
06-27-2005, 11:14 AM
147lbs. I don't think he'll cary 154lbs good.

Zab Super Judah
06-27-2005, 11:18 AM
147lbs. I don't think he'll cary 154lbs good.

I'm skeptical about him moving up fighting people like de la hoya though. DLH's defense and size along with his speed could make a difficult fight for PBF

loangunZ
06-27-2005, 11:33 AM
I think he would dominate dlh because he has lost alot over the past view years but I would favor a prime dlh to hold his own against mayweather

Zab Super Judah
06-27-2005, 11:37 AM
I think he would dominate dlh because he has lost alot over the past view years but I would favor a prime dlh to hold his own against mayweather

DLH might not be AS fast anymore but he still has the ability to bounce around and jab and still got a might good left hoook. He still got the speed/size that can disrupt PBF rhythm

Red_Menace
06-27-2005, 05:48 PM
Mayweather is pretty much ripped at 140. Did anyone notice he was taller than Gatti? He actually had reach advantage. His shoulders look roughly the same, though he isn't as thick around the mid-section. I think he could do 147 and be pretty ripped and bulked and carry it well. 154 I think is as high as he could go, but he wouldn't look as toned, and he'd definitely have lost a bit of speed. His speed would probably still be far above everyone else. The biggest thing I noticed about him, that most people don't mention, is his stamina and conditioning. The guy is obviously conditioned better than 99.9% of the fighters out there, and he looks like he could fight non-stop. I think he'd put the effort into training for his weight, and he could pull off 147 easily, and 154 alright.

LuKahnLi
06-27-2005, 05:52 PM
Don't forget. Jose Luis Castillo DID use his superior size and strength to great effect in the first fight.

sisforshaq
06-27-2005, 05:52 PM
De La Hoya would get smashed around by Floyd right now. I agree prime Oscar would give him a good fight but a la Shane Mosley, the speed and the quickness would trouble Oscar and I would give an edge to Floyd. Plus I never see that fight happening because of Oscar saying he wouldnt fight Floyd out of respect to Floyd Sr and all of that non sense. I think Floyd can cruise through 140 lbs and would have a good shot at 147. 154 would be tough though.

USA4LIFE
06-27-2005, 07:16 PM
Agreed. People talk about his opponents having a punchers chance, they talk about him being beat if he keeps moving up in weight, but the truth is, he has something what seperates him from all the other fighters who were sensations at the lower weight divisions and turned sorry once they moved up...and that something is his defense and quickness.

As much as i don't like floyd i have to agree with your post. I have now realized that i don't think floyd will lose...to anyone. He's way to fast and is a masterful boxer. I still don't like the man, if he shows more respect to fighter like he did to gatti after his fight i can grow to like him.

LuKahnLi
06-27-2005, 07:17 PM
De La Hoya would get smashed around by Floyd right now. I agree prime Oscar would give him a good fight but a la Shane Mosley, the speed and the quickness would trouble Oscar and I would give an edge to Floyd. Plus I never see that fight happening because of Oscar saying he wouldnt fight Floyd out of respect to Floyd Sr and all of that non sense. I think Floyd can cruise through 140 lbs and would have a good shot at 147. 154 would be tough though.

DLH doesn't really impose his size on people. He likes to use his skillz.

RwK
06-27-2005, 07:19 PM
Mayweather is awesome and should stay at 140. He should never face Shane Mosley though. I would give him zero to no shot at beating him.

LuKahnLi
06-27-2005, 07:20 PM
Mayweather is awesome and should stay at 140. He should never face Shane Mosley though. I would give him zero to no shot at beating him.

Mose needs to look better at 147 to take him seriously though.

Mose-Judah would be a good fight.

RwK
06-27-2005, 07:26 PM
Mose needs to look better at 147 to take him seriously though.

Mose-Judah would be a good fight.

Right. But for the sake of Mayweather, he should stay clear from him as a possible opponent.

1.) Shane's chin is made of granite.
2.) He is equally as fast
3.) Hits way harder IMO
4.) Might stop Floyd on body shots alone.

dansweeney
06-27-2005, 07:54 PM
Right. But for the sake of Mayweather, he should stay clear from him as a possible opponent.

1.) Shane's chin is made of granite.
2.) He is equally as fast
3.) Hits way harder IMO
4.) Might stop Floyd on body shots alone.


mosley is 33 now man, and mayweather is at his peak right now, I still believe that floyd's chin is suspect though, his dad and all his uncles have been knocked out multiple times each, even though floyd is better then they ever were, weak chins are in the genes, and if anybody has the speed and power combo to test it, Mosley could be the one