View Full Version : Epherdine in the amatuers


sugarrob2
05-30-2010, 12:37 PM
Is it allowed anybody .Do you get tested or is it just at olympic level and that .

dannnnn
05-30-2010, 01:47 PM
I have no idea whether it's allowed or not but, honestly, why are you even considering taking it?

You shouldn't be looking to depend on any type of substance for help, especially in the amateurs. Forget about stimulants and/or diuretics, all you need is to train hard and push yourself, to maintain a healthy diet and to have the desire to learn and improve. That's it.

sugarrob2
05-30-2010, 01:58 PM
I have no idea whether it's allowed or not but, honestly, why are you even considering taking it?

You shouldn't be looking to depend on any type of substance for help, especially in the amateurs. Forget about stimulants and/or diuretics, all you need is to train hard and push yourself, to maintain a healthy diet and to have the desire to learn and improve. That's it.

It boosts performance and gives you extra energy .I think it would be good for work and that as well .Could maybe be up to about 5000 punches a day and getting more strength in not to forget getting your weight right down .You don't get fatigued so you could take your training to a different level

danj.lizotte
05-30-2010, 02:20 PM
Some o dat A side meth got the ephedrine in it.

T.Horton
05-30-2010, 02:26 PM
It boosts performance and gives you extra energy .I think it would be good for work and that as well .Could maybe be up to about 5000 punches a day and getting more strength in not to forget getting your weight right down .You don't get fatigued so you could take your training to a different levelnah man! bad news...you do really bad things to your heart using that stuff.

a product that i have had great results with is NO XPlode. Mostly essential and non-essential amino acids with some caffeine. not nearly as bad for you.

Clegg
05-30-2010, 03:01 PM
It boosts performance and gives you extra energy .I think it would be good for work and that as well .Could maybe be up to about 5000 punches a day and getting more strength in not to forget getting your weight right down .You don't get fatigued so you could take your training to a different level

It's not a magic pill and doesn't do most of what you've described.

TheNegation
05-30-2010, 03:15 PM
It's not a magic pill and doesn't do most of what you've described.

Pretty much this. Plus Ephedrine is better stacked with Aspirin and Caffeine anyway to increase it's potency.

But steroids and anything else performance enhancing is a winning card. If you need it to make it in the amateurs, you'll never make it if you decide to turn pro. You use that kind of stuff when you are already at the top of your game or there is a lot on the line.

jonesy
05-30-2010, 03:18 PM
Is it allowed anybody .Do you get tested or is it just at olympic level and that .

Ask floyd snr. He's an expert on illegal substances.

LVfrank
05-31-2010, 02:36 AM
Epherdine screws your heart up.

sugarrob2
05-31-2010, 05:13 AM
If you need it to make it in the amateurs, you'll never make it if you decide to turn pro. You use that kind of stuff when you are already at the top of your game or there is a lot on the line.

Bulls--t you can use it when you want .MYTH.The difference could be training for the pros one day .

KiengKoopa
05-31-2010, 12:01 PM
I have no idea whether it's allowed or not but, honestly, why are you even considering taking it?

You shouldn't be looking to depend on any type of substance for help, especially in the amateurs. Forget about stimulants and/or diuretics, all you need is to train hard and push yourself, to maintain a healthy diet and to have the desire to learn and improve. That's it.

I agree you must have the desire to train hard, improve, and give it 100. However, just because someone uses supplements like NO, protein shakes, creatine, etc...does not mean they are slacking off and need to focus on training harder, or are dependent on it. They are just looking for that extra "boost" in their training, and if it helps then why not? Now it'd be a different story if I go to the gym for 30 min, hit the bag like a sissy, not break a sweat and use supplements.

T.Horton
05-31-2010, 12:23 PM
Bulls--t you can use it when you want .MYTH.The difference could be training for the pros one day .and when you don't have that to fall back on ie; Vargas, Mosley due to the stringent testing, you end up getting knocked out.

I got a kid asking me for them on a regular basis. I won't do it for him....he's twenty one and may go pro as a baseball player (he's already in the system) and I am not about to be the one to **** up his career.

TheNegation
05-31-2010, 01:07 PM
Bulls--t you can use it when you want .MYTH.The difference could be training for the pros one day .

Well of course you can use it when you want, but you shouldn't be relying on it in the amateurs.

What this comes down to is a lack of discipline on your part and the fact that you are even thinking about relying on a substance this earlier in your career to help you keep your weight down and train harder is pretty pathetic.

TheNegation
05-31-2010, 01:08 PM
I agree you must have the desire to train hard, improve, and give it 100. However, just because someone uses supplements like NO, protein shakes, creatine, etc...does not mean they are slacking off and need to focus on training harder, or are dependent on it. They are just looking for that extra "boost" in their training, and if it helps then why not? Now it'd be a different story if I go to the gym for 30 min, hit the bag like a sissy, not break a sweat and use supplements.

Ephedrine is a very powerful stimulant. Nothing close to a protein shake or Creatine in terms of potency and risk.

sugarrob2
05-31-2010, 01:13 PM
Well of course you can use it when you want, but you shouldn't be relying on it in the amateurs.

What this comes down to is a lack of discipline on your part and the fact that you are even thinking about relying on a substance this earlier in your career to help you keep your weight down and train harder is pretty pathetic.

It's not just about keeping my weight down. It is also a good energy booster so train harder and hopefully take strength to another level as well. Get decent ko power.

TheNegation
05-31-2010, 01:53 PM
It's not just about keeping my weight down. It is also a good energy booster so train harder and hopefully take strength to another level as well. Get decent ko power.

It won't magically endow you with KO power or strength, you actually have to train for strength and power if you want strength and power, and even then Epherdrine doesn't even aid in doing any of that.

Chances are your strength and power hasn't even plateaued yet, which is why it makes no sense to waste your time taking it now.

dannnnn
05-31-2010, 02:29 PM
However, just because someone uses supplements like NO, protein shakes, creatine, etc...does not mean they are slacking off and need to focus on training harder, or are dependent on it.

I take whey protein and vitamin supplements myself.

Ephedrine is a very powerful stimulant. Nothing close to a protein shake or Creatine in terms of potency and risk.

This.

them_apples
05-31-2010, 08:36 PM
ephedrine can fuk you up unless yuo are already in really good shape

TheTruthIs
05-31-2010, 10:34 PM
I wouldn't recommend using it regularly. It can be used to give you that extra bit of oxygen needed for endurance if you want to cheat, and you'll get away with it at any amateur club fight. Heck I've used similar things without even knowing it was illegal because I had a cold and was congested in my earlier fights and it was what the pharmacist recommended. Only to find out later it was a no no. But if you are ever at an event where testing might be present, steer well clear of it because you'll be busted for cheating and banned. Another similar agent to open the airways and increase oxygen endurance is xylometazoline, often found in nasal sprays and decongestants such as Otrivin, Sinutab, Sudafed etc and also is quite illegal according to the World Anti-Doping Agency.

Just work harder bro, is my advice, without looking for shortcuts and cheats. You'll appreciate your gains and accomplishments more that way. ;)