Vitalis dream was to fight Iron Mike Tyson. Hell, my dream is to fight some big names too :D but i know for a fact that i would get my ass kicked. What do you guys think about Vitalis dream?
Who would win, if they were to fight, although there is hardly any possibilty left.
Id say Vitali has this fight if he manages to keep his distance from Mike. Vitalis chin is too weak for Mikes punches, but then again, Vitalis reach is alot longer than mikes
what do you guys think?

Vitalis chin is too weak for Mikes punches


hmmm .... Vitaly has never been knocked down in either boxing or kickboxing tournaments. On top of this, he has never been outboxed by anyone he fought with.

He is now a WBC boxing champion and 5 time world champion in kickboxing.

I would say Vitali would just kill prime Mike inside 3-5 rounds.

Vitalis dream was to fight Iron Mike Tyson. Hell, my dream is to fight some big names too :D but i know for a fact that i would get my ass kicked. What do you guys think about Vitalis dream?
Who would win, if they were to fight, although there is hardly any possibilty left.
Id say Vitali has this fight if he manages to keep his distance from Mike. Vitalis chin is too weak for Mikes punches, but then again, Vitalis reach is alot longer than mikes
what do you guys think?

It would truly be an awesome fight. I think it would be unbelievably close, as you said Vitalis reach is so much longer than Tysons, but Vitali has a glass chin, and if Tyson got a few good shots in, he would take it. Overall, I would have to say Vitali, because of his reach and his ability to wear Tyson out by moving around, and keeping away from him.

but Vitali has a glass chin...


I mean, WTF (sorry)? The guy has never even been knocked down.

Yeah, if there's anything good I can say about Vitali it's that he seems to have a chin made of steel.

I mean, WTF (sorry)? The guy has never even been knocked down.

i think wat hes tryin to say, or wat i was tryin to say, is that the guy can easily be damaged to the face.

hey, since he's a kickboxing champion maybe he should compete in K-1 also. that would be cool if he were champion in k-1 and boxing at the same time. wonder why the k-1 promoters don't try to get him to fight in K-1, that would be great exposure for their sport

hey, since he's a kickboxing champion maybe he should compete in K-1 also. that would be cool if he were champion in k-1 and boxing at the same time. wonder why the k-1 promoters don't try to get him to fight in K-1, that would be great exposure for their sport

K-1 is some crazy assed ****! i jus saw some clips and i must say im more than just impressed.

Vitalis dream was to fight Iron Mike Tyson. Hell, my dream is to fight some big names too :D but i know for a fact that i would get my ass kicked. What do you guys think about Vitalis dream?
Who would win, if they were to fight, although there is hardly any possibilty left.
Id say Vitali has this fight if he manages to keep his distance from Mike. Vitalis chin is too weak for Mikes punches, but then again, Vitalis reach is alot longer than mikes
what do you guys think?
instead of dreaming about tyson, who will soon retire, shouldn't vitaly klit dream about girls or something

Vitali can't deal with Mike's relentless pressure...
On top of that..he has a weak chin, a very weak chin, almost glass...
Mike will KO him in 2..

todays tyson gets killed against vitali. prime tyson eats vitali up in rounds 1-3.

todays tyson gets killed against vitali. prime tyson eats vitali up in rounds 1-3.
I think it would be a good fight either way. They both have their strong points and weak points.

todays tyson gets killed against vitali. prime tyson eats vitali up in rounds 1-3.

That's exactly what I was thinking, Tyson in his prime was a better fighter than Vitali will ever be.

Frankly after watching Vitali vs Sanders, any time Vitali would back up he would extend both arms out in a "stay away from me please" type of posture.

THat would be a no no for a prime charging tyson.

I think his dream ends up being a nightmare.

I mean, WTF (sorry)? The guy has never even been knocked down.


...yeah, must have been a misprint, especially for a guy who claims to be a Vitali fan.

tyson his prime would have even given ali trouble...ahve u guys seen tapes of prime tyson (i mean am only 18-but i have seen old tapes of tyson fights) he was fast and hit like a truck..had great head movement...prime tyson would kill Vk...i think now VK my beat tyson within 5..but i still give tyson a big-big shot against anyone..remember one punch from tyson can mean everything

i think tyson can beat toney...if booker landed on toney ..then tyson would have trouble..ruiz would be killed by tyson and so would brewster and mccline/golata

byrd/rahman against tyson can go either way..but tyson will always have a shot cux of his strenght..and dont foget..the fight before his leg went out...the guy looked fresh..he was moving great and everything

Vitali can't deal with Mike's relentless pressure...
On top of that..he has a weak chin, a very weak chin, almost glass...
Mike will KO him in 2..


Vitali has a great chin. Lennox landed a massive uppercut and Sanders absoluteky nailked him on at least 2 occasions.

If Mike was conditoned he'd have a chance against anyone. He's the only guy that can throw punches in combunations (proper combos) pivoting, with leverage etc.

But Mike I think is done both mentally and physically. He'd need an awakening of the highest order

i think vitali would win the only problum is hes a stand up boxer and he would be taking some heavy shots with would not be good with tyson

The fight i'd like to see is Tyson vs. Wlad. Klitschko. Think about it, both guys have great offense and KO power but Wlad. has a glass jaw and Tyson wilts under pressure, so you know that someones getting knocked out but you dont know who. I'd say that Tyson KOs Wlad. Klitschko in the first couple rounds. Then he could fight Vitaly in a revenge match for the Klitschkos.

I would say Vitali would just kill prime Mike inside 3-5 rounds.
Has well thought?:)

A prime iron Mike would destroy Vitali, like another doormat.However, his chances of a KO would diminish as the fight gets longer.

hmmm .... Vitaly has never been knocked down in either boxing or kickboxing tournaments.

Uh...you might want to read about Vitali's kickboxing match against Pele Reid, before you make such a claim.

Why not? This is a Mike Tyson that hasn't won a significant fight in over a decade, has no stamina, is badly faded, but can earn you respect, millions of dollars, and an undeserving title shot.

Uh...you might want to read about Vitali's kickboxing match against Pele Reid, before you make such a claim.

Here's one eye witness' description of what happened in that Vitali/Pele Reid fight at the WAKO Light Continuous European Championships in Varna, Bulgaria, as told by Gary Turner (pro kickboxer, who was fighting on the same card);

"Pele did a jump spinning hook kick, catching Vitali clean on the jaw with his heel. Vitali went down like a tree being toppled, he was totally 'poleaxed' and out cold. It was some time before he was up and moving again."

So much for Vitali never being knocked down in either a kickboxing or boxing match!

Here's one eye witness' description of what happened in that Vitali/Pele Reid fight at the WAKO Light Continuous European Championships in Varna, Bulgaria, as told by Gary Turner (pro kickboxer, who was fighting on the same card);

"Pele did a jump spinning hook kick, catching Vitali clean on the jaw with his heel. Vitali went down like a tree being toppled, he was totally 'poleaxed' and out cold. It was some time before he was up and moving again."

So much for Vitali never being knocked down in either a kickboxing or boxing match!


Look, Vitaliy said in an interview he has never been KD or KOed (i assume this means that there were no official KDs or KO scored on him). I believe Vitali.

Maskaev also made claims that he KOed Vitali, while the (amateur) fight was stopped by Vit trainer due to Vitali's injured hand, and there were not even official KDs scored.

So, please provide the official, credible news-source to back up your claim.

Source: http://www.*********.com/scott117.htm

Prior to your fight with Lennox, many had questioned your ability to take a punch - all because of a KO loss you sustained several years ago to a British fighter named Pele Reid early in your kickboxing career. After your fight with Lennox, you showed that you definitely have a solid chin and proved that the sceptics were wrong. Can you explain what really happened in your fight with Pele?

Vitaliy: Who is Pele Reid? It was so long ago that I forgot all about him. Nobody knows who Pele Reid is. My fight with him was a semi-contact kickboxing match 12 years ago. I lost that fight because of a kick to my thigh, not a punch. Lennox is the biggest puncher in the world and he could not knock me out.

Look, Vitaliy said in an interview he has never been KD or KOed (i assume this means that there were no official KDs or KO scored on him). I believe Vitali.

Maskaev also made claims that he KOed Vitali, while the (amateur) fight was stopped by Vit trainer due to Vitali's injured hand, and there were not even official KDs scored.

So, please provide the official, credible news-source to back up your claim.

I provided a quote directly from someone who witnessed what happened in that fight from a short distnace away. There's also video evidence of that fight between Vitali and Pele Reid, which is currently in the hands of a gentleman by the name Chris McNeish (among others).

Credible source?

Did O.J. kill his wife and her lover? Hmmm?

Well, he SAID he didn't do it, so you must believe him since you believe so strongly in what Vitali has to say.

Maskaev also made claims that he KOed Vitali, while the (amateur) fight was stopped by Vit trainer due to Vitali's injured hand, and there were not even official KDs scored.

Prior to your fight with Lennox, many had questioned your ability to take a punch - all because of a KO loss you sustained several years ago to a British fighter named Pele Reid early in your kickboxing career. After your fight with Lennox, you showed that you definitely have a solid chin and proved that the sceptics were wrong. Can you explain what really happened in your fight with Pele?
Vitaliy: Who is Pele Reid? It was so long ago that I forgot all about him. Nobody knows who Pele Reid is. My fight with him was a semi-contact kickboxing match 12 years ago. I lost that fight because of a kick to my thigh, not a punch. Lennox is the biggest puncher in the world and he could not knock me out.

So, please provide the official, credible news-source to back up your claim.

I believe Vitali.
Vov! This very strong argument :)
But, "please provide the official, credible news-source to back up your claim."

Vov! This very strong argument :)
But, "please provide the official, credible news-source to back up your claim."


Source: http://www.*********.com/scott117.htm

Prior to your fight with Lennox, many had questioned your ability to take a punch - all because of a KO loss you sustained several years ago to a British fighter named Pele Reid early in your kickboxing career. After your fight with Lennox, you showed that you definitely have a solid chin and proved that the sceptics were wrong. Can you explain what really happened in your fight with Pele?

Vitaliy: Who is Pele Reid? It was so long ago that I forgot all about him. Nobody knows who Pele Reid is. My fight with him was a semi-contact kickboxing match 12 years ago. I lost that fight because of a kick to my thigh, not a punch. Lennox is the biggest puncher in the world and he could not knock me out.

I provided a quote directly from someone who witnessed what happened in that fight from a short distnace away. There's also video evidence of that fight between Vitali and Pele Reid, which is currently in the hands of a gentleman by the name Chris McNeish (among others).

Credible source?

Did O.J. kill his wife and her lover? Hmmm?

Well, he SAID he didn't do it, so you must believe him since you believe so strongly in what Vitali has to say.


Source: http://www.*********.com/scott117.htm

Prior to your fight with Lennox, many had questioned your ability to take a punch - all because of a KO loss you sustained several years ago to a British fighter named Pele Reid early in your kickboxing career. After your fight with Lennox, you showed that you definitely have a solid chin and proved that the sceptics were wrong. Can you explain what really happened in your fight with Pele?

Vitaliy: Who is Pele Reid? It was so long ago that I forgot all about him. Nobody knows who Pele Reid is. My fight with him was a semi-contact kickboxing match 12 years ago. I lost that fight because of a kick to my thigh, not a punch. Lennox is the biggest puncher in the world and he could not knock me out.

Source;

www.sherdog.net/forums/showthread.php?t=215837&page=2&highlight=vitali+pele+reid

A judge asks a question of the accused, who responds by saying, "I didn't do it!"

A judge asks a question of the witness, who responds by saying, "Yes he did do it!"

Hmmm...I wonder who the judge is going to believe?

Source: http://www.*********.com/scott117.htm

Prior to your fight with Lennox, many had questioned your ability...
You try to joke or is serious?:)
Oleg asserted - knockdowns were, and this information also was on several sites. Only do not ask to search link - you know, that it so.

Or we unconditionally should believe Vit only because he it has told in interview for *********?:)

That just words of Vit.

Source;

www.sherdog.net/forums/showthread.php?t=215837&page=2&highlight=vitali+pele+reid

A judge asks a question of the accused, who responds by saying, "I didn't do it!"

A judge asks a question of the witness, who responds by saying, "Yes he did do it!"

Hmmm...I wonder who the judge is going to believe?

GIVE ME A BREAK !

YOUR OFFICIAL EVIDENCE IS SOME CRAP FORUM DICSUSSION.

Vitali is NOT in court, if he was KOed he wouldn't deny it.

It is not like he is about to go to prison for getting KOed 12 years ago, right?


Vitali is certainly MORE credible than a post of some BUM in a FORUM.


You HAVE to PROVE your claim with an official source. Please provide the tape.

So far the ONLY OFFICIAL statment we have is from Vitaliy.

You try to joke or is serious?:)
Oleg asserted - knockdowns were, and this information also was on several sites. Only do not ask to search link - you know, that it so.

Or we unconditionally should believe Vit only because he it has told in interview for *********?:)

That just words of Vit.


OLEG said that there were knockdowns but referee DID NOT count them. I wonder why the referee did not count them as official? Maybe they were like the "knockdown" Vitali had in round 1 in Sanders fight from being pushed by Corrie Sanders.

You try to joke or is serious?:)
Oleg asserted - knockdowns were, and this information also was on several sites. Only do not ask to search link - you know, that it so.

Or we unconditionally should believe Vit only because he it has told in interview for *********?:)

That just words of Vit.


ZAMANAL TY MENIA. U MENIA RABOTY MNOGO.

I write seriously. I did not hear these words "but referee DID NOT count them". I would like to receive link as I did not hear it earlier. It for me would be useful.

Nevertheless, Vit (if I am not mistaken) in general denied any falling in that fight. Or I again am not right?

Look, Vitaliy said in an interview he has never been KD or KOed (i assume this means that there were no official KDs or KO scored on him). I believe Vitali.

Maskaev also made claims that he KOed Vitali, while the (amateur) fight was stopped by Vit trainer due to Vitali's injured hand, and there were not even official KDs scored.

So, please provide the official, credible news-source to back up your claim.

He's never been KD in boxing but he has said that he was KD in a kickboxing match.

Only on you hope.
Give link, please.

Only on you hope.
Give link, please.


You brought up Oleg's case first, you find the link.

Dude, I have a job and I don't have time looking for links for you.

You refused to find the link first, so why should I serach for a link for you?

If YOU WANT to prove Vitali is guilty, then YOU FIND the links.

I never understand dreaming about fighting a former legend. Jesus why not wait until the guy's 100 years old and then walk up and punch him the chops. It doesn't mean you've slapped the samwe manthat is terrorising the heavyweight division. Talk about try to leech of a guys reputation.

You brought up Oleg's case first, you find the link.

Dude, I have a job and I don't have time looking for links for you.

You refused to find the link first, so why should I serach for a link for you?

If YOU WANT to prove Vitali is guilty, then YOU FIND the links.
Because I use the information which is known for all; for which use are not necessary links. But this statement is for me (for certain, not only for me) new. Personally I such did not hear anywhere. So...:)
I did not hear it anywhere and I do not know even where to search. You know - to you it will be easier... If Oleg spoke these words.:)

I do not try to prove " Vit is guilty ". Simply amusing to me to hear statements " I believe Vit ", citing as an example only his words. And simultaneously (so it turns out) to accuse other people in lie which assert the opposite. I thought, you will give link about knockdown during fight with Pele on any site about kickboxing where absence knockdown will be specified. Or you will give link on Oleg's words. But you " I believe Vit ":)

Because I use the information which is known for all; for which use are not necessary links.


I have read Oleg's interviews in Russian, and I may be wrong, but I tried to refer to them as accurately as possible. Take anotehr close look at the original interviews, not some paraphrazes by journalists.


I like OLEG as a fighter a lot, as much as I like Vitaliy.


And simultaneously (so it turns out) to accuse other people in lie which assert the opposite.


That's bull****.


1. I DID NOT accuse you of anything.

2. You ACCUSE Vitaliy of being a LIER.

GIVE ME A BREAK !

YOUR OFFICIAL EVIDENCE IS SOME CRAP FORUM DICSUSSION.

Vitali is NOT in court, if he was KOed he wouldn't deny it.

It is not like he is about to go to prison for getting KOed 12 years ago, right?


Vitali is certainly MORE credible than a post of some BUM in a FORUM.


You HAVE to PROVE your claim with an official source. Please provide the tape.

So far the ONLY OFFICIAL statment we have is from Vitaliy.

Uh, buddy...the guy who said that is a professional fighter (who was in attendance and SAW what happened with his own two eyes), just like Vitali. I don't think anybody who is sitting behind a ****ing keyboard, is in a position to call ANY pro fighter a "BUM".

And who cares if his words were said on a discussion forum, as opposed to some "*********" site quoting those exact same words from him? It's the WORDS of a pro fighter who was fighting on the same kickboxing card as Vitali and Pele, and actually saw the fight live as it happened.

Source: http://www.*********.com/scott117.htm

Prior to your fight with Lennox, many had questioned your ability to take a punch - all because of a KO loss you sustained several years ago to a British fighter named Pele Reid early in your kickboxing career. After your fight with Lennox, you showed that you definitely have a solid chin and proved that the sceptics were wrong. Can you explain what really happened in your fight with Pele?

Vitaliy: Who is Pele Reid? It was so long ago that I forgot all about him. Nobody knows who Pele Reid is. My fight with him was a semi-contact kickboxing match 12 years ago. I lost that fight because of a kick to my thigh, not a punch. Lennox is the biggest puncher in the world and he could not knock me out.
in kickboxing if you do enough damange to the thigh can't that still lead to a knockout?

Uh, buddy...the guy who said that is a professional fighter (who was in attendance and SAW what happened with his own two eyes), just like Vitali. I don't think anybody who is sitting behind a ****ing keyboard, is in a position to call ANY pro fighter a "BUM".

And who cares if his words were said on a discussion forum, as opposed to some "*********" site quoting those exact same words from him? It's the WORDS of a pro fighter who was fighting on the same kickboxing card as Vitali and Pele, and actually saw the fight live as it happened.



Loook, maybe I am wrong. But how do you even know the guy in the forum is for real? Ok. BUM was too harsh.

I can easily admit that I am wrong. No questions asked, but I need to have better evidence than what has been provided.

Loook, maybe I am wrong. But how do you even know the guy in the forum is for real? Ok. BUM was too harsh.

I can easily admit that I am wrong. No questions asked, but I need to have better evidence than what has been provided.

Hey Nautilus i like your new title. Your finally seeing sense :p

Hey Nautilus i like your new title. Your finally seeing sense :p


Thanks ! No problem ! It is all fun any way :D :p

Thanks ! No problem ! It is all fun any way :D :p

Glad you like it man. lol

I have read Oleg's interviews in Russian, and I may be wrong, but I tried to refer to them as accurately as possible. Take anotehr close look at the original interviews, not some paraphrazes by journalists.
Give link.

2. You ACCUSE Vitaliy of being a LIER.
Really?:) Where?


That's bull****.


1. I DID NOT accuse you of anything.




This is a GRAVE accusation. So PROVE that Vitaliy is a LIER.


I am DONE talking to you.
You have not understood me, "dude".
I spoke about Oleg and Gary Turner .
Be not nervous.:)

Glad you like it man. lol

Did you use for that the money that my Karma gave you? :p :D

Did you use for that the money that my Karma gave you? :p :D

:D A little of it, it cost me 150000 ish to do it.

Give link.




I will once I find it, after I am done with this semester, teaching classes and all that.

:D A little of it, it cost me 150000 ish to do it.


So 60% was financed through my karma donation ... :eek: :eek: :eek:

So 60% was financed through my karma donation ... :eek: :eek: :eek:

:D Yeah, you bought yourself a guuud title. If Vitali wins on saturday you'll be able to spend your winnings on anything you desire on the Scene.

I will once I find it, after I am done with this semester, teaching classes and all that.
It means - in next century?:)

:D Yeah, you bought yourself a guuud title. If Vitali wins on saturday you'll be able to spend your winnings on anything you desire on the Scene.


Nah. I will keep the title! It is kind of cool.

It means - in next century?:)

After December 18th.

Nah. I will keep the title! It is kind of cool.

:eek: Well thats a shock, you are the most diplomatic Klitschko fan i have ever met. I wonder what Nexaris would think if i changed his. lol

After December 18th.
I shall remind you.:)

As with most Klit topics....this one starts out queer, & then works its way DOWN to a nitpicking lil' *****fest.

I shall remind you.:)


alrighty




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As with most Klit topics....this one starts out queer, & then works its way DOWN to a nitpicking lil' *****fest.



and where there is a "*****fest", there is Jabbs&Stuff right in the middle...

and where there is a "*****fest", there is Jabbs&Stuff right in the middle...

Yes....to try & break it up....& send you *****es back to your corners.

Aw, changing Jabs Title, that ain't right!

Just abit of harmless fun, besides where there is a brawl there is normally Jabz. :cool:

Changing my title.....something a scorned woman would do.
"Nutiless", is that woman.

LMAO It was me Jabz, just messing with you ;)

Wez....

You stinkin' Limey bastard. For that, I'll now root for Vitali to clobber Danny !

Wez....

You stinkin' Limey bastard. For that, I'll know root for Vitali to clobber Danny !

LMAO Sorry man, i just thought i'd have abit of fun. Besides i think it suits you j/k :p

Changing my title.....something a scorned woman would do.
"Nutiless", is that woman.



Hey, Jab-chick, I will kick your butt for messing with the title of Nautilus Pompilius, the best Russian rock band.

Where's that hygiene-neglectin' NichtGeflecten when you need him ?

Hey, Jab-chick, I will kick your butt for messing with the title of Nautilus Pompilius, the best Russian rock band.

I don't think we americans are aware there is any real competition for that title.

Jabs

You should have enough points to change the title back.

I don't think we americans are aware there is any real competition for that title.


This is just a name of a rock band. No competition there. NP is the best band for my taste.

I'll let it ride for a while.

Hey, Jab-chick, I will kick your butt for messing with the title of Nautilus Pompilius, the best Russian rock band.



Better than Gorky Park ?

Better than Gorky Park ?

Jab,


They are very different.


NP has very good texts and music that reminds of Led Zep.

Gorky Park is an American Russian group that is better known here than in Russia. Gorky Park is very American.


N

Where's that hygiene-neglectin' NichtGeflecten when you need him ?

He has been too quiet recently, i wonder why he stopped posting. :confused:

He has been too quiet recently, i wonder why he stopped posting. :confused:


I think he got tied up in his multi-million dollar crude oil business dealings. Either that or he had to polish several of his rare, antique automobiles....or he despises mortals and is too intellectually advanced for the pitiful creatures that exist on this realm. :D

I think he got tied up in his multi-million dollar crude oil business dealings. Either that or he had to polish several of his rare, antique automobiles....or he despises mortals and is too intellectually advanced for the pitiful creatures that exist on this realm. :D

LMAO Yeah thats what he'd like us to believe. It's kinda weird not seeing him battling someone, he used to amuse me because he never directly swore or called someone and bastard. He was quick witted i'll give him that. :D

Better than Gorky Park ?

That was a blast from the past! I liked Gorky Park! :p