View Full Version : Anyone Pac kills at 130 right now?


Bahamut Zero
06-23-2005, 08:26 PM
...except Morales and Barrera? I think he should be goin' back to 126...he lost much of his power at his new weight!

.::|ULTIMATE|::.
06-23-2005, 08:28 PM
He didnt loose his power, Morales just takes it too well lol.

I think he could beat almost every cautious fighter at 130. Cant have someone who brings the fight to him though.

imadork
06-23-2005, 09:40 PM
PAC MAN is the best. He will be the first to KO Eric Morales, you mark my words.

Manny_P
06-23-2005, 09:47 PM
PAC MAN is the best. He will be the first to KO Eric Morales, you mark my words.



You must be one of the best and knowledgable posters here at boxingscene! Ima give you good karma fo this FACT you posted!

Manny_P
06-23-2005, 09:49 PM
...except Morales and Barrera? I think he should be goin' back to 126...he lost much of his power at his new weight!


except Barrera? nyahahhahhahahahaha, he became a chicken afta Pac destroyed him!



Morales will be beat in a rematch by Pac! I will then donate all my 116 mil points to the peeps who have shown respect to ma main man Pac and foreva mo, leave Boxingscene!


THIS IS THE PROPHECY!

nelsoncm
06-23-2005, 09:57 PM
PAC MAN is the best. He will be the first to KO Eric Morales, you mark my words.

How long have you been watching boxing? How many matches have you watched? Where were you when Pac fought Morales? I didn't know Pac can KO Morales when you swear in his name.

Marjoh
06-23-2005, 10:26 PM
The power may still be there, but I think he might have lost his speed coming in at 138. It's his first time up, against one of the best, if not the best, in the division. And though we could say the same for Barrera, he pretty much know Morales so didn't matter much for him going up as Pacquiao. So there's still plenty of time to get comfortable for Pacquiao.

As always, time will tell. Hope there be a rematch between Pacquiao and Morales without all the controversy. Do we really need another Chavez-Morales?

- D

MetalVomit
06-23-2005, 10:27 PM
...except Morales and Barrera? I think he should be goin' back to 126...he lost much of his power at his new weight!


I agree, he should not move to 130. I favor Marco Antonio Barrera if they have a rematch and it's at 130.

Manny_P
06-23-2005, 10:33 PM
The power may still be there, but I think he might have lost his speed coming in at 138. It's his first time up, against one of the best, if not the best, in the division. And though we could say the same for Barrera, he pretty much know Morales so didn't matter much for him going up as Pacquiao. So there's still plenty of time to get comfortable for Pacquiao.

As always, time will tell. Hope there be a rematch between Pacquiao and Morales without all the controversy. Do we really need another Chavez-Morales?

- D


Barrera came in perfect, Morales came in outa shape! It added to Barrera's advantage in my opinion. Morales slower, Barrera faster!

Pac came in huge like you said. If Pac was at 132-134, he would be so faster and wouldnt get tired easily!



Pac neva needed to get comfy at 126lbs becuz he could handle it.130 is where Pac would try to get comfy though. Get a tune up, and he'll be used to it!



Pac witnessed sumthing new and that was Morales jest BOXING and being careful! Pac and Roach dint expect that from Morales who's been known to FIGHT and SLUG wit opponents!

In the rematch, Pac will know what to do! Pac will fight a better fight and the prophecy will be fulfilled. MORALES WILL GEt KOed!

Manny_P
06-23-2005, 10:37 PM
I agree, he should not move to 130. I favor Marco Antonio Barrera if they have a rematch and it's at 130.

o wow! did Barrera suddenly become a betta fighta than he was when he moved up?! LOL

beating Morales (a fighta he's beaten befo), a weak punching, shoulda been retired Ayala and a ****in bum on PPV, hasn't really impressed me.

Morales have been slightly mo impressive than MAB in my opinion!

Joey Joe Joe Jnr Shabadoo
06-23-2005, 11:07 PM
Pac-Man's in a tough spot at the moment.

The #1 fight for him IMO would be to rematch Marquez. But the problem there is that JMM outboxed him for 11 out of the 12 rounds they faced.

But with Corrales seemingly not interested in a Morales fight. Maybe Pac could get a rematch thier. I still think he loses, but it'd be another big fight for him.

In fact he could take anyone of the 3 rematches that he deserves MAB, JMM or Morales. But I'd pick against him in all of them.
It may be time for him to destroy of few cans before that to build back up some confidence he may have lost.

mic573
06-23-2005, 11:07 PM
Barrera came in perfect, Morales came in outa shape! It added to Barrera's advantage in my opinion. Morales slower, Barrera faster!

Pac came in huge like you said. If Pac was at 132-134, he would be so faster and wouldnt get tired easily!



Pac neva needed to get comfy at 126lbs becuz he could handle it.130 is where Pac would try to get comfy though. Get a tune up, and he'll be used to it!



Pac witnessed sumthing new and that was Morales jest BOXING and being careful! Pac and Roach dint expect that from Morales who's been known to FIGHT and SLUG wit opponents!

In the rematch, Pac will know what to do! Pac will fight a better fight and the prophecy will be fulfilled. MORALES WILL GEt KOed!

Pacquiao was supposed to be improved after his fight with Marquez. The Morales camp even made it be known that they were studying Pacquiao's fight against Marquez. That alone should of told them what Morales was planning to do. What's even funny is that Roach was saying that Morales was the easier fight out of all three of the Mexican fighters.

Manny_P
06-23-2005, 11:12 PM
Pacquiao was supposed to be improved after his fight with Marquez. The Morales camp even made it be known that they were studying Pacquiao's fight against Marquez. That alone should of told them what Morales was planning to do. What's even funny is that Roach was saying that Morales was the easier fight out of all three of the Mexican fighters.


ight, the thing wit Marquez, is that Marquez can't beat a well conditioned and prepared Pac! Pac was so predictable in the 1st fight and Marquez couldnt even pull a win!

Marquez won't beat Pac becuz he has NO KILLER INSTINCT!Morales has killer instinct in him. Pac will jest go forward, Marquez backing, but it will always be a close to one sided fight cuz fo Pac cuz Pac will put on the pressure!


Studying? Dont matta wut you studying if the otha camp dont know wut the otha will do come fight time! Roach though Morales would be eazy, cuz he thought Morales would brawl wit Pac. HE DINT! If he did, trust me, Morales woulda hit canvass. Look at round 12 when erik tried to fight wit Pac toe to toe,LOL, his ass almost got KTFO!

Manny_P
06-23-2005, 11:15 PM
Pac-Man's in a tough spot at the moment.

The #1 fight for him IMO would be to rematch Marquez. But the problem there is that JMM outboxed him for 11 out of the 12 rounds they faced.

But with Corrales seemingly not interested in a Morales fight. Maybe Pac could get a rematch thier. I still think he loses, but it'd be another big fight for him.

In fact he could take anyone of the 3 rematches that he deserves MAB, JMM or Morales. But I'd pick against him in all of them.
It may be time for him to destroy of few cans before that to build back up some confidence he may have lost.



the #1 big fight fo him right now is Morales IMO! Pac can take his ass out in the rematch! Barrera is too chicken to fight him, Marquez looks like he afraid too, so let the man who is willin give him anotha chance. Get ma main Pac his rematch!

mic573
06-23-2005, 11:20 PM
ight, the thing wit Marquez, is that Marquez can't beat a well conditioned and prepared Pac! Pac was so predictable in the 1st fight and Marquez couldnt even pull a win!

Marquez won't beat Pac becuz he has NO KILLER INSTINCT!Morales has killer instinct in him. Pac will jest go forward, Marquez backing, but it will always be a close to one sided fight cuz fo Pac cuz Pac will put on the pressure!


Studying? Dont matta wut you studying if the otha camp dont know wut the otha will do come fight time! Roach though Morales would be eazy, cuz he thought Morales would brawl wit Pac. HE DINT! If he did, trust me, Morales woulda hit canvass. Look at round 12 when erik tried to fight wit Pac toe to toe,LOL, his ass almost got KTFO!

Morales didn't come close to getting knocked out in the 12th round. He got hit with some good shots but nothing that was going to stop him. I think the Pacquiao camp should of had some idea if the Morales camp let it be known that they were studying how Marquez fought Pacquiao. They just thought they were going to come in and blow Morales away.

Manny_P
06-23-2005, 11:28 PM
Morales didn't come close to getting knocked out in the 12th round. He got hit with some good shots but nothing that was going to stop him. I think the Pacquiao camp should of had some idea if the Morales camp let it be known that they were studying how Marquez fought Pacquiao. They just thought they were going to come in and blow Morales away.


i hope you kidding man! LOL

Morales was truly hurt that round 12, LOL! Even mo hurt than Tarver gainst Johnson in the 11 round last week, LOL





Oh don't worry you'll see Morales being blown away in the rematch, LOL. I can jest laugh my ass off at the thought of Pac stopping Morales early in the rematch! I GUARANTEE THAT TOO!


side note: You see, peeps here at this forum don't know 1 lil thing bout that Pac vs Morales match! There's a big secrecy on why Pac lost that match to Morales and only true Pacfans and Pinoys know this. It is rumored that the secret will be revealed when Pac ONCE AGAIN SHOCKS THE WERLD by stopping MORALES in a rematch! Even shocking to the stoppage of Barrera and the humiliation of Marquez!





CANT WAIT FO THE REMATCH!!!! LOL

THE PROPHECY WILL BE FULFILLED!!! LOL

mic573
06-23-2005, 11:32 PM
If Morales was hurt so bad than why couldn't Pacquiao put him on his ass? I'm not going to get into any rumors and anything like that.

Manny_P
06-23-2005, 11:34 PM
If Morales was hurt so bad than why couldn't Pacquiao put him on his ass? I'm not going to get into any rumors and anything like that.


doo, jest conduct a ****in poll! ye'll see th one sided opinion wether Morales was hert or not! LOL.


He ran out of time?????????? You crazy!

mic573
06-23-2005, 11:39 PM
He had plenty of time but just couldn't do it. Pacquiao had almost an entire round to put Morales away. Morales even switched southpaw for him. I'm just going to leave it at that. I have my opinion of why he couldn't and you have yours.

Manny_P
06-23-2005, 11:40 PM
He had plenty of time but just couldn't do it. Pacquiao had almost an entire round to put Morales away. Morales even switched southpaw for him. I'm just going to leave it at that. I have my opinion of why he couldn't and you have yours.

LOL. NO! Morales WAS seriously hert..........THAT's A FACT not opinion! LOL.


Case Closed on this!

Tha Greatest
06-23-2005, 11:42 PM
Pacquiao=overrated bum

Manny_P
06-23-2005, 11:43 PM
Pacquiao=overrated bum


You = underrated cunt!

Bahamut Zero
06-24-2005, 01:02 AM
Morales was truly hurt that round 12, LOL! Even mo hurt than Tarver gainst Johnson in the 11 round last week, LOL

you'll see Morales being blown away in the rematch, LOL. I can jest laugh my ass off at the thought of Pac stopping Morales early in the rematch! I GUARANTEE THAT TOO!

side note: You see, peeps here at this forum don't know 1 lil thing bout that Pac vs Morales match! There's a big secrecy on why Pac lost that match to Morales and only true Pacfans and Pinoys know this. It is rumored that the secret will be revealed when Pac ONCE AGAIN SHOCKS THE WERLD by stopping MORALES in a rematch! Even shocking to the stoppage of Barrera and the humiliation of Marquez!

THE PROPHECY WILL BE FULFILLED!!! LOL

Aw ****! I never thought this poster to be this stubborn when it comes to defending his hero. LMAO!

Calm down son, Morales just shut the **** out Pacquiao. Do you still want others to thrust the dagger deeper on you?

Peden vs Pac would be interesting...Barrera vs Pac would be an even match at 130...and Morales simply blows Pac again! ;)

Manny_P
06-24-2005, 01:12 AM
Aw ****! I never thought this poster to be this stubborn when it comes to defending his hero. LMAO!

Calm down son, Morales just shut the **** out Pacquiao. Do you still want others to thrust the dagger deeper on you?

Peden vs Pac would be interesting...Barrera vs Pac would be an even match at 130...and Morales simply blows Pac again! ;)




idiot. Pac would destroy Peden in 2! Pac would Barrera and Morales. Case Closed!

fatpom
06-24-2005, 01:20 AM
There is a little truth to saying Morales was hurt in the 12th against Pac-Man.

But let's put it into perspective. He took 5 or 6 totally flush full force, full power shots from Pacquaio and was still throwing back.

He was wobbled? sure. But no more than Pac was wobbled three or four times during the fight. He was not nearly NTFO. All those shots from Pac-man, and he STILL couldn't even DROP Morales. Yet alone knock him out. If Pac couldn't do it with those punches, he would never do it.

Do you think Morales would allow that to happen in a rematch? I don't. In fact, I think Morales has an easier time of it.

I like Pac-Man, he's exciting & great for the sport. But he is also one dimentional & very beatable.

Bahamut Zero
06-29-2005, 12:59 AM
There is a little truth to saying Morales was hurt in the 12th against Pac-Man.

But let's put it into perspective. He took 5 or 6 totally flush full force, full power shots from Pacquaio and was still throwing back.

He was wobbled? sure. But no more than Pac was wobbled three or four times during the fight. He was not nearly NTFO. All those shots from Pac-man, and he STILL couldn't even DROP Morales. Yet alone knock him out. If Pac couldn't do it with those punches, he would never do it.

Do you think Morales would allow that to happen in a rematch? I don't. In fact, I think Morales has an easier time of it.

I like Pac-Man, he's exciting & great for the sport. But he is also one dimentional & very beatable.

:You_Rock_ :usa:

oldgringo
06-29-2005, 01:05 AM
I'm sorry but Pacquiao beating Morales in a rematch is about as likely as Floyd Mayweather moving up to heavyweight and 1 punch KOing Vitali Klitschko.

Loco671
06-29-2005, 01:35 AM
I really don't care which of the 3 Pac man faces next. Any of the 3 will be an exciting fight.

MlLkMan
06-29-2005, 12:45 PM
The power may still be there, but I think he might have lost his speed coming in at 138. It's his first time up, against one of the best, if not the best, in the division. And though we could say the same for Barrera, he pretty much know Morales so didn't matter much for him going up as Pacquiao. So there's still plenty of time to get comfortable for Pacquiao.

As always, time will tell. Hope there be a rematch between Pacquiao and Morales without all the controversy. Do we really need another Chavez-Morales?

- D


What i was thinking also.

Manny_P
06-29-2005, 01:38 PM
I'm sorry but Pacquiao beating Morales in a rematch is about as likely as Floyd Mayweather moving up to heavyweight and 1 punch KOing Vitali Klitschko.

like how Pistons would beat Spurs huh?



side note: you acting like Morales dominated Pac. He won 2 ****in rounds foo. Get serious.




Pac will KO Morales in the rematch. It was predicted by Nastradamus fo Christ sake, *****es!

Bahamut Zero
06-29-2005, 08:16 PM
You ARE nutlicking Pac way too much bro...Morales will blast Pac to 126 if they meet again!

Moon
06-29-2005, 08:19 PM
I agree, he should not move to 130. I favor Marco Antonio Barrera if they have a rematch and it's at 130.
This is a fight that I figure more people would be crying for in the forums.

ELPacman
06-29-2005, 08:22 PM
To answer the original poster's question, no.

oldgringo
06-29-2005, 08:32 PM
like how Pistons would beat Spurs huh?



side note: you acting like Morales dominated Pac. He won 2 ****in rounds foo. Get serious.




Pac will KO Morales in the rematch. It was predicted by Nastradamus fo Christ sake, *****es!


Wow you're so clever.

Morales already beat Pacquiao clearly, and I had him winning 8-4 as opposed to 7-5.

Erik would never fight Manny's fight, he's just way too good an overall boxer to be caught by the one dimensional Pacquiao. Sorry man but it's the truth and I told every Pac nuthugging dreamer like you before the first fight that Erik would beat his ass and he did.

I'd favor Manny over Barrera heavily if they fought a rematch but Erik is just too good. Truth hurts doesn't it.

dangerousity
06-29-2005, 09:17 PM
In a match as close as the Pac vs morales, its ludacris to say either fighter will blast the other away in a rematch. The point of re-matches is if the first fight is close, often the 2nd match may have a different result thus resulting in a trilogy. All judges scored the fight 7-5, you can say you scored it 8-4 but thats not official score and I could easily counter that by saying I scored it 6-6...Alot of the rounds were very close calls anyways with morales getting in 1 or 2 more shots in according to compubox.

Id like to see Pac, Morales, Barrera against the other top dogs in 130 right now as tune up b4 heading for each other. JMM can stay at 126 if hes too chicken. The Pac that fought him was so predictable, he got carried away with straight left after the 1st round. The Pac that fought Morales IMO would have destroyed JMM.

Bahamut Zero
06-30-2005, 12:37 AM
Wow you're so clever.

Morales already beat Pacquiao clearly, and I had him winning 8-4 as opposed to 7-5.

Erik would never fight Manny's fight, he's just way too good an overall boxer to be caught by the one dimensional Pacquiao. Sorry man but it's the truth and I told every Pac nuthugging dreamer like you before the first fight that Erik would beat his ass and he did.

I'd favor Manny over Barrera heavily if they fought a rematch but Erik is just too good. Truth hurts doesn't it.

Barrera beat the **** out of Morales (2X, maybe 3x)...Morales kick Pacquiao's arse...Pac almost killed Barrera... :confused:

Bahamut Zero
06-30-2005, 12:39 AM
In a match as close as the Pac vs morales, its ludacris to say either fighter will blast the other away in a rematch. The point of re-matches is if the first fight is close, often the 2nd match may have a different result thus resulting in a trilogy. All judges scored the fight 7-5, you can say you scored it 8-4 but thats not official score and I could easily counter that by saying I scored it 6-6...Alot of the rounds were very close calls anyways with morales getting in 1 or 2 more shots in according to compubox.

Id like to see Pac, Morales, Barrera against the other top dogs in 130 right now as tune up b4 heading for each other. JMM can stay at 126 if hes too chicken. The Pac that fought him was so predictable, he got carried away with straight left after the 1st round. The Pac that fought Morales IMO would have destroyed JMM.

True that! :D

snipes12
06-30-2005, 01:02 AM
pac deserves a rematch wid em coz pac was not even kd in their 1st match and has a very tight score because of an accidental headbutt.not like corales and castillo wer castillo had been almost unconcsiously leaning in the ropes and shud not have a rematch becoz it was proven in favor of corales. pac will comeback and will throw a good showdown agen between mab and em.

Manny_P
06-30-2005, 07:32 AM
In a match as close as the Pac vs morales, its ludacris to say either fighter will blast the other away in a rematch. The point of re-matches is if the first fight is close, often the 2nd match may have a different result thus resulting in a trilogy. All judges scored the fight 7-5, you can say you scored it 8-4 but thats not official score and I could easily counter that by saying I scored it 6-6...Alot of the rounds were very close calls anyways with morales getting in 1 or 2 more shots in according to compubox.

Id like to see Pac, Morales, Barrera against the other top dogs in 130 right now as tune up b4 heading for each other. JMM can stay at 126 if hes too chicken. The Pac that fought him was so predictable, he got carried away with straight left after the 1st round. The Pac that fought Morales IMO would have destroyed JMM.


nice post. Oldgriingo is jest mad cuz his Pistons lost and it'll take a year fo them to recover HAH!



Pac only needs 1 fight (few months) and BAM, welcome back to Pacland, *****es!!!!




like I said, Nastradamus predicted Pac to beat by KO Morales. We shall see in the future.

Moon
07-03-2005, 06:17 PM
In a match as close as the Pac vs morales, its ludacris to say either fighter will blast the other away in a rematch.

The Pac that fought Morales IMO would have destroyed JMM.
In beating Pac, Morales showed Pac a style very similar to that as JMM. Except that Erik was more agressive and not always looking to counter.

Also, Pac-Morales wasn't really all that close when you consider the "effect" that Morales was having on Pac versus Morales' response to Pac best shots. A rematch would look pretty much the same, or, more likely, Erik gives Pac a worse beating.

Bahamut Zero
07-03-2005, 08:05 PM
In beating Pac, Morales showed Pac a style very similar to that as JMM. Except that Erik was more agressive and not always looking to counter.

Also, Pac-Morales wasn't really all that close when you consider the "effect" that Morales was having on Pac versus Morales' response to Pac best shots. A rematch would look pretty much the same, or, more likely, Erik gives Pac a worse beating.

Or, it may be the other way around. Hope this time Pac doesn't get cut. And wears his glove of choice. ;)

Parodius
07-03-2005, 08:43 PM
I agree, he should not move to 130. I favor Marco Antonio Barrera if they have a rematch and it's at 130.He will destroy Barrera, just like he did in they're first meeting. :p

BIGPOPPAPUMP
07-03-2005, 09:22 PM
If Pac still has the speed, Barrera will have problems

Moon
07-03-2005, 10:33 PM
Erik took Pac's best shots early in the fight, mid fight and more than a few in the 12th. Morales was definitely hurt in the 12th, but not staggered, not ready to go down, not ready to cover up and lay on the ropes, not ready to clinch and hang on for dear life. Same can be said for Pac, for not fading in the 12th, or backing-down after taking Erik's best for 12 rounds.

In a rematch, we'd see Pac having success tagging Morales with that same left hand, down the pipe. We'd again see Erik taking it well and countering effectively. Why would it go any differently?

I see one difference though, Erik probably wouldn't "give" Manny another round to prove he can take Pac's best. He's already done that. So, unless Pac has another higher gear, which I doubt, we'd should expect to see the first fight all over again, but not as close. Erik UD, 116-112 on three cards.

MANNY_P .... In summary, not only does Erik Morales have skills that exceed Pac's operall package, he can also take Pac's best shot and, more importantly, he has heart equal to Manny's. That's a tough combo to beat.