View Full Version : what do u think of gattis gameplan for sat


riz
06-23-2005, 12:48 PM
from fighntews
"We're going to demolish his body, upper body. His head? We're going to forget about his head," explained Gatti. "Once he slows down his head is going to be right there."


i think it makes sence, but mayweather i dont think is going to get tired.... gatti has to make a fight of it, a brawl!

jack_the_rippuh
06-23-2005, 12:55 PM
What Gatti said is easier said that done. They talk about hitting the body, the chest, and behind the ear, but on saturday when Gatti is in the ring, it's going to be a whole different ball game.

puppy_dogg
06-23-2005, 01:00 PM
thats exactly what chico said he wanted to do, and look what happend there. gatti is to slow for floyd, hell, everybody is

Bombardier
06-23-2005, 01:15 PM
Nobody ever goes into a fight saying that they'll be head-hunting. You ever notice that?

BigE
06-23-2005, 01:17 PM
eh, I think body work is a nice idea. Floyd won't want to fight inside though, so getting those body shots will be tough.

I am pulling for Arturo big time, but its going to be a tough fight.

Sir_Jose
06-23-2005, 01:22 PM
Dont forget about the part about him blocking Floyd's punches with his face.

mic573
06-23-2005, 01:24 PM
Hitting Floyd anywhere is easier said than done. Mayweather covers his body well and picks off any shots that try to land upstairs. Not to mention all the shots that will land by Mayweather when Gatti tries to go to the body or the head.

puppy_dogg
06-23-2005, 01:29 PM
and i quote:

"he's going against the best boxer in the world. throw all that boxing **** out the window and go for broke, cause thats the only chance you got"

-roger mayweather

hollister
06-23-2005, 01:45 PM
He's going to have to try to rough Floyd up, try to take him out of his game plan, make him ***** and complain to the ref and maybe lose focus a little. One thing about Gatti, he can throw 70+ punches a round for a long ass time, hard punches too.

Bombardier
06-23-2005, 01:46 PM
He's going to have to try to rough Floyd up, try to take him out of his game plan, make him ***** and complain to the ref and maybe lose focus a little. One thing about Gatti, he can throw 70+ punches a round for a long ass time, hard punches too.

You're right, but if he follows the slow and careful game plan that he's been swearing by lately he will miss his opportunity to frustrate him early. He might be a victim of his own success here.

simeraksou
06-23-2005, 01:47 PM
Gatti's best strategy is to fight really dirty, like ricky hatton. Headbutt, lowblow, throw mayweather down. Really try and rough him up

sisforshaq
06-23-2005, 01:47 PM
Floyd is going to destroy Gatti, fight over. Then hopefully he can shut that piece of **** Vivian Harris up, after watching that presser hes is a piece of ****. Callin Floyd a ******, O hope Floyd takes him on next and crushes him.

scap
06-23-2005, 01:56 PM
You're right, but if he follows the slow and careful game plan that he's been swearing by lately he will miss his opportunity to frustrate him early. He might be a victim of his own success here.


If Gatti does this then he should not even step in the ring with Floyd, he cant fight at any sort of distance and expect to win.

I think the body strategy makes a lot of sence, Gatti needs to be as rough as ****ing possible, if he gets deducted for hitting low so be it!

Floyd is very irritated which I dont think is such a good thing for him to be, usualy he is all smiles before his fights...Gatti has already gotten under his skin outside the ring and by being very rough to the point of fouling early on in the fight this should really piss Floyd off and make Floyd fight as oppose to box. Every few fights PBF likes to mix it up with his oppnents and this is Gattis shot, piss Floyd off an get him into a real fight.

I think Gatti having trouble with wieght is a good sign for Gatti fans that he is going to come in as heavy as possible against Flyd. The size difference (the power) is the only reason I give Arturo any shot at all and that shot is still pretty small-man if i would not love to be proved wrong here!

bigdlb12
06-23-2005, 01:59 PM
gatti may try that for about a round, once he starts to get hit, he'll start to brawl

-Spectre-
06-23-2005, 02:31 PM
Gatti is playing the mind game. I think Arturo will be outskilled, outboxed and outpointed in the first 4 rounds. Mayweather will be all confident and start saying **** to Gatti. That's when Gatti wins the fight. Gatti will forget about the plan of hitting the lower/upper body and go all out. He will pursue Mayweather and eventually make him feel his power and make him get up on the bike. Mayweather will not be able to fight at that pace all night. If this is the case I see a round 6 Gatti TKO.

If Both fighters start breaking hell all over since the bell rings I think Mayweather will eat floor early.

mic573
06-23-2005, 02:38 PM
Gatti is playing the mind game. I think Arturo will be outskilled, outboxed and outpointed in the first 4 rounds. Mayweather will be all confident and start saying **** to Gatti. That's when Gatti wins the fight. Gatti will forget about the plan of hitting the lower/upper body and go all out. He will pursue Mayweather and eventually make him feel his power and make him get up on the bike. Mayweather will not be able to fight at that pace all night. If this is the case I see a round 6 Gatti TKO.

If Both fighters start breaking hell all over since the bell rings I think Mayweather will eat floor early.

If that happens Gatti will get eaten up. Nobody can follow Mayweather around the ring headhunting.

scap
06-23-2005, 02:43 PM
Gatti is playing the mind game. I think Arturo will be outskilled, outboxed and outpointed in the first 4 rounds. Mayweather will be all confident and start saying **** to Gatti. That's when Gatti wins the fight. Gatti will forget about the plan of hitting the lower/upper body and go all out. He will pursue Mayweather and eventually make him feel his power and make him get up on the bike. Mayweather will not be able to fight at that pace all night. If this is the case I see a round 6 Gatti TKO.

If Both fighters start breaking hell all over since the bell rings I think Mayweather will eat floor early.

So you think Gatti will get schooled for the first 4 rounds and then it will only take 2 rounds after that for Gatti's power to take over and break down PBF...god I hope your right but **** I know your wrong.

jchavez12345
06-23-2005, 02:44 PM
I agree, Gatti only has ONE gameplan to chose from and that is to attempt to brawl with mayweather, what else is he going to do out boxing him? lol..lol...lol..lol..

Truth
06-23-2005, 02:45 PM
My predicition:

This fight looks alot like Mayweather vs. Corrales...

hollister
06-23-2005, 02:54 PM
My predicition:

This fight looks alot like Mayweather vs. Corrales...

Maybe, but Diego is weak as **** compared to Gatti. He couln't even keep Castillo on the outside the few times he tried, Diego's kinda slow too, IMO

guru
06-23-2005, 02:57 PM
gatti should come into ring at about 160lbs and fight like hatton did, straight forward, continueous punching.... maul floyd and turn it into a street fight...

jpboxer3
06-23-2005, 02:58 PM
The only way Gatti will get to PBF's body enough to break him down,is to grab and bully him against the ropes.That's why I said the ref will be key in this fight,because he may or may not let Gatti hold or get too physicall with PBF.Now that I think of it,this could be like Ruiz-Jones.

Sir_Jose
06-23-2005, 02:59 PM
http://www.boxingscene.com/media/data/500/8902mitts2.gif

I love this GIF

svenottke
06-23-2005, 03:04 PM
no matter what his plan is , he gets hurt vs floyd sat. mayweather is in a diffrent class. it will show.

scap
06-23-2005, 03:06 PM
no matter what his plan is , he gets hurt vs floyd sat. mayweather is in a diffrent class. it will show.


How the hell can you argue with this...as much as I want to believe and tell myself that Arturo has a shot...bottom line is we are talking about two fighters on two seperate levels...

mic573
06-23-2005, 03:12 PM
The only way Gatti will get to PBF's body enough to break him down,is to grab and bully him against the ropes.That's why I said the ref will be key in this fight,because he may or may not let Gatti hold or get too physicall with PBF.Now that I think of it,this could be like Ruiz-Jones.

The ref is Earl Morton so it depends on if he allows alot of rough tactics. I can't remember how good of a ref he is.

Boxerdog
06-23-2005, 03:22 PM
I believe Gatti's REAL gameplan is to do as well as he can, try to last 12 rounds, collect a big fat check and then tell his grandkids, "I fought several of the best! Never could beat 'em but I did O.K." :D

imadork
06-23-2005, 03:27 PM
http://www.boxingscene.com/media/data/500/8902mitts2.gif

I love this GIF

I'm in a trance.

Boxfan12
06-23-2005, 03:27 PM
Floyd is going to destroy Gatti, fight over. Then hopefully he can shut that piece of **** Vivian Harris up, after watching that presser hes is a piece of ****. Callin Floyd a ******, O hope Floyd takes him on next and crushes him.




Harris was fine, after nancy boy talks all his **** its good think people lash back at the little ****er. **** floyd dont care who wins this sat night but the best thing is the day floyd gets knocked out i'll be there.

Slipx
06-23-2005, 03:33 PM
What Gatti said is easier said that done. They talk about hitting the body, the chest, and behind the ear, but on saturday when Gatti is in the ring, it's going to be a whole different ball game.



I am glad though that they are focusing on training for Gatti's power hooks rather than ****ing around with the jab..mayweather is godly at absorbing jabs with his lead hand..

Slipx
06-23-2005, 03:34 PM
http://www.boxingscene.com/media/data/500/8902mitts2.gif

I love this GIF
hes like the black willie pep and **** except he has lots of power

Slipx
06-23-2005, 03:37 PM
How the hell can you argue with this...as much as I want to believe and tell myself that Arturo has a shot...bottom line is we are talking about two fighters on two seperate levels...

Hey. That's what everyone said about Hatton. Everyone thought he was a gimp who was fighting nobodies, yet he came out HARD and worked over Tszyu easily. you cant underestimate someone just because of the quality of their opposition.

the only true way to predict a fight is to get a mental image of both the styles, what both of the guys instinctually do (gotta watch 10-15 fights on both guys to get this in your head) and imagine them colliding, then take chin, stamina, etc into accountability and you will have your prediction. I see Mayweather being overly defensive in the first round not taking any punches, but when Gatti lands that first shot, he isnt gonna **** around like corely. When Mayweather gets dazed, if theres 30 or more seconds left in the round, it's ****ING OVER! gatti will say **** my stamina and how i feel and run up on you with a quick 15 power hook combo.., ...trust your instincts.


I learned a long time ago to trust my instincts...

riz
06-23-2005, 04:05 PM
im not lying, i doubt gatti will win, i hope he does, cuz im a canadian, and a huge gatti fan, and above all, SOMEONE HAS TO SHUT MAYWEATHER UP. the gy talks so much ****, and he would've headlined ppv after ppv, if he was more respectful, he would have more fans.

IwatchBoxing
06-23-2005, 04:07 PM
http://www.boxingscene.com/media/data/500/8902mitts2.gif

I love this GIF
Floyd has alot of skills, I doubt Gatto could win, but if Castillo gave him trouble than maybe he has a chance.

Red_Menace
06-23-2005, 06:51 PM
Floyd has alot of skills, I doubt Gatto could win, but if Castillo gave him trouble than maybe he has a chance.

Styles make fights, and sometimes an unlikely opponent can win against a champion. I'm not sure if Gatti has that style, but we'll see. Gatti basically needs to fight the same fight as Castillo - push Mayweather on the ropes and go for the body. I think Gatti will pressure him more aggressively, and I'm not sure if that will be better or worse for him. Gatti is no slower than Castillo, so I think he can put Mayweather on the ropes, but we'll see. I think Mayweather could knock him out with his precision punching. If it happens, it will be a counter shot that Gatti doesn't see coming. I'm really excited for this fight. I hope it isn't a one-sided match like Winky vs Tito. I think it will be better than that, competitively.

riz
06-23-2005, 07:05 PM
tru say, im rooting for gatti, but i think mayewather gona win

Riptor
06-23-2005, 07:16 PM
Same here rooting for Gatti but Mayweather will probably win. If Gatti can use what Emmanuel Augustus and Castillo did and take strategies from their fights he will get Mayweather. They both showed that Mayweather can be had. I think that his plan of attack is the way to go about it. You can move your head all day but you can't move your body. Ask Chris Byrd about his fight with Ibeabuchi.

mic573
06-23-2005, 07:48 PM
Mayweather covers his body well though so it is even harder for Gatti to land shots.

Dr.Depravity
06-23-2005, 09:28 PM
Im a big Gatti fan, but I agree with boxerdog. He will go in there thinking he can box with Mayweather. Big Mistake. His game plan should be to go in there and balls to the wall. and I doubt he will do it. He will try and hang with Floyd till the last couple rounds and then try to make something happen. But he will be to worn out to land the hardshots in succession. I predict a night of yelling at the T.V. saying "Goddamnit Gatti throw some shots!!"

riz
06-23-2005, 11:10 PM
i dont think hes gona try to box, from what i've heard, in camp, they haven't even practiced the jab or any boxing yet

Manny_P
06-23-2005, 11:18 PM
I jest hope Gatti wins and make Floyd eat his werds!

boxing scribe
06-24-2005, 12:37 AM
First, this is not a personality test. This is a fight. And Floyd is a complete fighter, first and foremost. What I've heard that doesn't mean crap in this matchup is the following:

"Gatti has to make this a brawl, that's his only chance".

It is his only chance for getting knocked out quicker. Floyd is the BEST inside fighter out there, the best shoulder to shoulder fighter in the world...to think Gatti is going to beat him by brawling trying to get inside while Floyd is back pedaling trying to be Pernell Whitaker or Ray Leonard is a mistake. This cat fights inside better than Gatti does. For this fight, he's going to want to fight inside even more...not good for Gatti.

Another thing I've seen written are comparisons of Castillo and Gatti? Do you guys watch boxing...or know boxing? Castillo was world class when Floyd fought him and beat him...twice. I know some think Gatti is world class...but being popular and having a nice personality does not make you a world class fighter...as a matter of fact, every world class fighter he fought...has knocked him out or crushed him...i.e. De La Hoya

Zab Super Judah
06-24-2005, 12:40 AM
from fighntews
"We're going to demolish his body, upper body. His head? We're going to forget about his head," explained Gatti. "Once he slows down his head is going to be right there."


i think it makes sence, but mayweather i dont think is going to get tired.... gatti has to make a fight of it, a brawl!

at first i thought floyd would stop gatti later on but im starting to think its going to happen before the 5th round. Since gatti is apparently having a hard time making weight. Gattis should take a lookt at castillo vs mayweather one

riz
06-24-2005, 01:13 AM
i think gatti gona have more powre on his punches cuz of the weight

Floydmayweather
06-24-2005, 01:35 AM
Floyd knows Gatti is having a tough time making weight and I see Floyd moving in the center of the ring and throwing larges volumes of punches until Gatti goes down. And one final not Gatti is no where near a Castillo and Castillo is one of the best in fighters period, Gatti is not.

FISTIC ART
06-24-2005, 02:11 AM
Mike Tyson put it best ill never forget dat shyt when he said in that funny azz voice he got,,,"""errybody got a plan till they get hit""",,Mayweathers speed will freeze Gatti like that ice cream truck that rolls thru ya block an brings all the kids in dont matter what they doin they run for that ice cream dont matter what gatti do he gonna get froze all this hype for a nothing fight just to get that pay per view money ,,Mayweather only loses if jesus makes his second appearence to mere mortals,,if u dont think jesus will show neither will gatti,,...........

Zab Super Judah
06-24-2005, 02:12 AM
Floyd knows Gatti is having a tough time making weight and I see Floyd moving in the center of the ring and throwing larges volumes of punches until Gatti goes down. And one final not Gatti is no where near a Castillo and Castillo is one of the best in fighters period, Gatti is not.

never said he was as good as castillo im saying he should fight wiht the same strategy as castillo

The Troll
06-24-2005, 02:13 AM
I think Gatti can be effective with the jab and keep Mayweather at range. Not enough people bring the size and reach advantage Gatti has into this fight. I think having mayweather at range with his jab he can position mayweather into being hit with good left hooks to the body and head. If the jab is not effective then I would expect him to just to stalk and walk down mayweather and try to hurt him to the body as much as possible and look for big left hook opportunties to the head.

If Mayweather is doing bad against the jab then he will have to fight Gatti in the pocket and I think if he tries do that he will be KO'd.

FISTIC ART
06-24-2005, 02:18 AM
Mayweather can beat anyone at that weight,,,hatton beat an old tzou in a wrestling match,,,and now hatton is a class fighter,,is u outta ya mind,,,vivian harris is anotha big talker,,talked all that shyt about that ray olivera bout how he was an old man and that old man took him to school harris sayin yea that old man is good after the fight,,,and zab judah lost to tzou when tzou was in his prime ,,aint no way zab supa chump can beat Mayweather ,,mayweather is at his prime he'l scholl any nicca in that division ,,and he'll dominate zab too......shine ma shoes man befo i slap you........

The Troll
06-24-2005, 02:19 AM
Mayweather can beat anyone at that weight,,,hatton beat an old tzou in a wrestling match,,,and now hatton is a class fighter,,is u outta ya mind,,,vivian harris is anotha big talker,,talked all that shyt about that ray olivera bout how he was an old man and that old man took him to school harris sayin yea that old man is good after the fight,,,and zab judah lost to tzou when tzou was in his prime ,,aint no way zab supa chump can beat Mayweather ,,mayweather is at his prime he'l scholl any nicca in that division ,,and he'll dominate zab too......shine ma shoes man befo i slap you........

I can understand why you like fighters like Judah and Mayweather you have about the same amount of class. A level which is slightly above of certain species of molusks.

Mayweather is gonna get KO'd. Gatti's size, jab, toughness and smartness is to much for that pinhead mayweather. And Mayweather's chin is untested and therefore suspect and he will be hit in this fight.

When you fight Gatti the more punches you throw the more you get hit.

FISTIC ART
06-24-2005, 02:22 AM
Mckay u like the barney of the forums u live in ya own purple world,,,gatti dosent even speed when he drives u think he can out jab or even land his jab effectively against the speed of mayweather,,,ur brain aint on 30 second brain delay is it where u see thigs slower than they are do you,,,,man get a clue about boxing ,,,forget the weavin an bobbin,,,if gatti tries to use his jab with mayweathers speed he'll just counter it with the right over his jab,,only thing gatti should set up for is for jim lampley to say look at the heart on gatti he's trying to get up from that wheel chair,,,,hahahahahaha.z,,,shine ma shoes befo i slap you....

The Troll
06-24-2005, 02:24 AM
Mckay u like the barney of the forums u live in ya own purple world,,,gatti dosent even speed when he drives u think he can out jab or even land his jab effectively against the speed of mayweather,,,ur brain aint on 30 second brain delay is it where u see thigs slower than they are do you,,,,man get a clue about boxing ,,,forget the weavin an bobbin,,,if gatti tries to use his jab with mayweathers speed he'll just counter it with the right over his jab,,only thing gatti should set up for is for jim lampley to say look at the heart on gatti he's trying to get up from that wheel chair,,,,hahahahahaha.z,,,shine ma shoes befo i slap you....

Gatti can keep Mayweather at range with his jab. He is not an idiot like Mayweather. Gatti's jab is good and he stick into to Floyd's chest and dicate his movement. Then Floyd like I said will revert to trying to fight Gatti in the pocket and slip and **** and is going to get nothing but in there. Mayweather has quite a small frame, a fact to many people are overlooking in this fight. He wont take Gatti's body punches well and depending on who the referee is Gatti with his superior strenght can bull Mayweather around like he is *****, which he is after Saturday.

How is Mayweather gonna counter Gatti's jab when Mayweather is so much shorter than Gatti. He cant come over with anything. He does that lunghing in **** and jabs to the body. Gatti wont let him get away with that staying on the outside and jabbing to the body bull**** to steal rounds. It wont happen.

FISTIC ART
06-24-2005, 02:25 AM
how many people has angel manfredy floored,,,?,,,1,,,,gatti,,lmfaoooooooooo,,,gatti gets hurt in every fight,,,,but he fights guys that cant finish,,,gatti is gonna get hurt in this one too and mayweathers caliber will finish him,,,,look at gatti's heart he wont let the doctor operate on that tumor,,,lmfaoooooooooooooo.....lights out nicca,,,let the hype go to rest,,,,same hype,,,same result,,,lights out...knock out........

FISTIC ART
06-24-2005, 02:27 AM
say all that were true say gatti has this anthat in his arsenal,,,he's not gonna land it ,,,body shot all u want he's not gonna land to the body ,,only thing he's gonna land is either 1 his back,,or 2 his face on the canvas.......

The Troll
06-24-2005, 02:31 AM
say all that were true say gatti has this anthat in his arsenal,,,he's not gonna land it ,,,body shot all u want he's not gonna land to the body ,,only thing he's gonna land is either 1 his back,,or 2 his face on the canvas.......

Gatti's size advantage and jab and are going to make the difference in this fight as well as his superior punching power. I dont think Mayweather is exactly featherfisted but his punches are not gonna bother a guy like Gatti. Also it might only take one good left hook from Gatti to KO Mayweather. Mayweather was hurt by the featherfisted Corely. Mayweather is small. He will lose this fight and retread down in weight class.

FISTIC ART
06-24-2005, 02:32 AM
see mckay u gotta do ur research,,,mayweather almost always fights boxers taller than him,,,actually the guys who have troubled mayweather have been shorter than him,,,and to end all this non sense and to show u just talk to talk,,,gatti is an inch shorter than mayweather,,,so he can easily go over his jab,,,inch an speed and for the grand finally tko of mckay mayweathers reach is 72,,,gatti's 70,,im sure gatti is glad ur not in his corner,,,talkin all that shyt dont even know what ur saying,,,,"""dont reach with that jab mckay,,,cuz that right is comin right over it.....""""

The Troll
06-24-2005, 02:34 AM
see mckay u gotta do ur research,,,mayweather almost always fights boxers taller than him,,,actually the guys who have troubled mayweather have been shorter than him,,,and to end all this non sense and to show u just talk to talk,,,gatti is an inch shorter than mayweather,,,so he can easily go over his jab,,,inch an speed and for the grand finally tko of mckay mayweathers reach is 72,,,gatti's 70,,im sure gatti is glad ur not in his corner,,,talkin all that shyt dont even know what ur saying,,,,"""dont reach with that jab mckay,,,cuz that right is comin right over it.....""""

Actually NO. How about Jose Luis Castillo. He was bigger and taller than Mayweather and most ringside observers believe he won his first fight against Mayweather and he did very well in the second fight as well in my mind the fight could have gone to either guy. And that fight took place of course at 135 pounds. Gatti is a bigger and stronger than Castillo and also a better boxer. And Jose Luis Castillo has no jab to speak of whereas Gatti has a very respectable jab.

FISTIC ART
06-24-2005, 02:40 AM
first u said gatti use the jab ur taller,,,gatti isnt taller than mayweather ,and his reach isnt longer than mayweathers,,, now u wanna say gatti is a better fighter than castillo,come on man,,u dont know boxing retire from writing in the forums,,,and u can feel anyone won any fight,,whats mayweathers record,,,say it with me,,,33 and 0 ,lmfaooooooo,,,Gatti is exactly what mayweather said he is,,a paper champion ,,C+ fighter at best but dont take his word for it,,just watch the fight......

The Troll
06-24-2005, 02:41 AM
first u said gatti use the jab ur taller,,,gatti isnt taller than mayweather ,and his reach isnt longer than mayweathers,,, now u wanna say gatti is a better fighter than castillo,come on man,,u dont know boxing retire from writing in the forums,,,and u can feel anyone won any fight,,whats mayweathers record,,,say it with me,,,33 and 0 ,lmfaooooooo,,,Gatti is exactly what mayweather said he is,,a paper champion ,,C+ fighter at best but dont take his word for it,,just watch the fight......

Gatti is a better fighter than Castillo. Castillo's last fight was great against Corrales but Castillo has losses to guys with loosing records back in Mexico if you go to his record in boxrec and to other lower caliber opposition.

Schmeling
06-24-2005, 02:49 AM
Gattis best chance is more then likely to stay close, hug and throw uppercuts while backing out. Together with some roughing up it may throw off gayweathers gameplan of jabbing and running his way to an UD.

Urban Predator
06-24-2005, 02:50 AM
Gattis best chance is more then likely to stay close, hug and throw uppercuts while backing out. Together with some roughing up it may throw off gayweathers gameplan of jabbing and running his way to an UD.
I don't think there's anything Gatti can do to stop Floyd running his way to a wide unanimous decision.

The Troll
06-24-2005, 02:54 AM
I don't think there's anything Gatti can do to stop Floyd running his way to a wide unanimous decision.

He can punch Mayweather in his f***ing jaw and put him on the canvas. Then stand over the punk's limp corpse and say "how do you like that boy." Gatti is bigger and more skilled than Castillo and Mayweather basically lost to Castillo twice. Castillo is not as strong as Gatti and he is one dimensional in comparison to Gatti. He moves his head a little bit but all he really can do basically is plod ahead and fight in the pocket. Gatti's boxing skills are totally overlooked by practically everybody.