Since this has become the MCM forum:

Last night I was out with my cusin to dinner at the local cuban restaurant, good food! In the table next to us this one lady (note: TPT = Trailer Park Trash) with her 7 kids. Yes 7. From age 14 or 15 to 1.

From the moment that they sat down the ****ing kids where out of control, I mean they where literaly climbing the table, the 12 year old one sat under the table until the food came out, the little one, about 1 year old, played with a fork and knife the whole time, the 7 to 9 year olds fought and threw food (bread) at each other and spitting thier drinks.

At all this the ***** not once got of the phone ot correct her bad ass little crumb-snatchers. The only time was after 15 minutes she said, ***can you ****ers, yes she did say ****ers, behaive so I can go out and talk on the phone?*** At that her 9 year old told her to shut the **** up!!!!

What in the world is parenting coming to? My mother would have killed my ass if I behaived 1/2 as bad as those little devil ass crumb-snatchers. The sad part is that is not the first time I see this kind of parenting around. I have no idea what people are thinking by not giving their kids any kind of discipline or basic behavior control.

Damn! HAADD is bull****, is just a lack of ass beatings!

Ages are aproximate since I don't know the people.

I wish I could be a professional kid-beater.

No ****. I wantedd to beat the living **** out those bad asses!!!!

I wish I could be a professional kid-beater.
Why would you beat the **** out of the kids? Beat the **** out of the woman.

Parents have become gutless ******* in our society. I will always be thankful that my mom beat my ass everytime I got out of line.

All of this time out and let's talk bull**** psychology has to stop. You're not the kid's friend, you're his mother/ father.

My Mom spanked me once and thats all she needed to do. Every other time she would get the wooden spoon and I would stfu.

The sad thing is Bubz, this lady probably does beat her kids. Anyone that would call a 1 8 and 9 year old ****ers in public probably isn't the best parent in the world.

Man, even now everytime I talk to my mom I try to watch my language just in case a little "**** or ****" slips out and I end up with 5 across the face.

7 ****ing kids... Un ****ing real, chubbs.

I wonder how many different fathers there are?

That was the first thing I told my cusin, ***I bet everyone of them comes from a different father***. They all had her look thou!

Which is a classic example of why the U.S. has the highest abortion rate in the industrialized world. Parents, (American parents), have become so ignorant to child psychology that each generation deteriorates considerably from the last; except the past two generations have deteriorated at a much higher rate than the generational gaps before them. Why? Well everyone has their own opinions – even sociologists differ on the cause of this, which is why a realistic solution has not been applied to slow our country’s downfall.

One fact remains though: The more we accept the common ideology of relativity, (including social, religious, and ethical relativity), the more we aid in the effort for evil to destroy our country. Mark Twain once said, “The radical of one century is the conservative of the next. The radical invents the views. When he has worn them out, the conservative adopts them.” What’s radical to us anymore? What shocks us on T.V.? The only thing that is radical nowadays is one who has strict and relentless morals, values, and conscience that were considered to be common 100 years ago. The radical has become so common, that we no longer embrace the morals that this society was created upon before our media started the mad-dash for shock and awe.

They say it’s growth, tolerance, and acceptance to give each their own and to turn away from everyone else’s problems and to focus primarily on self; we are a society of selfishness that disguises our lack of drive to help one another with a misguided word of “tolerance”. But I tell you the truth: Tolerance has become so accepted, that nothing else is tolerated. We are not truly free when we ourselves are too scared to take a stand for what is right and what is wrong, and for the fight against relativism of which if not dealt with will be our country's social, political, and religious demise.

I raise my damn fist!

oh i see this **** all the time at walmart. it used to totally piss me off cause i just couldn't comprehend the lack of brain cells on the "parents" behalf.

we all know what happens to these kids when they grow up. if they're still alive then they end up folding my burritos or i support their incarceration expenses.

just take note and use these experiences to remind yerself on how to not raise yer kids, should you have any. kids need discipline and 95% of discipline is done in love. but, should you have to beat some ass, do it Sun-Tsu style- quick, efficient, and hard.

The Mouse- Eventhough I think you have a point, I don't really see where your post goes with bad parenting. I think that is not what the sociaty thinks is radical or anything about moral values. I think it has to do with the goverment and society taking parental rights to discipline thier kids at any moment.

I think is the Oprah Winfries of the world that think you should be your childs friend and not thier parent, can you do both: YES!!! Can you just be their friend: **** NO!!!!

I understand that there is a difference between abuse and use of physical disciplinary action. And the problem is where do we draw the line to protect the kids. Well, the other problem is where do we draw the line to allow parent to discipline thier children the way the can best.

I think that is why we have a raise in crime, lack of respect and kindness in the general pubilc, is why kids mouth off to teachers, that is why kids throw things at the bus drives and when the stand to correct them they stand up and pysically challenge them, is the reason why kids go to the streets and have no problem with lowering their values. They have not been thought any!

Did my mother beat the **** out of me? YES. Did I hate it? YES. Did I do ****ed up **** again? NO! Is called physical disciplinary action not child abuse. Now when a child's health is in danger then is a problem.

Arghhhhhhhhhhhhh, can't stand bad ass kids with ****ed up parents!!!!!

I hope that when is my turn I do the right thing!

The Mouse- Eventhough I think you have a point, I don't really see where your post goes with bad parenting.

Damnit man, :: slap! :: , bad parenting is one of many effects of the cause that I described.

of course there's a bold line between physically abusing a child and beatin the kid's ass occassionally when they **** up and pull extremely disrespectful stunts. kids have to be taught that there are consequences in the real world for dumb**** actions. otherwise they never achieve anything in life because they're eternally depressed over the slightest reprecussions and afraid to press on.

today's kids are too soft because the yuppie baby boomers and gen X parents are so washed up in being politically correct that they actually believe occassional ass-beatings constitute child abuse! then they neglect the children and let television and music do most of the parenting so the parents can spend more quality time earning & spending money. since most children nowadays are suprise pregnancies, our spoiled culture wants the convenience of getting through this....new challenge...without having it inconvenince THEIR lifestyles in anyway. that's what our culture teaches us. if you have a challenge, push it under the rug.

in reality, responsible parenting is the toughest job in the world. if you're going to be a parent you need to understand and respect this fact. if anything, the moment you decide to have a child you should automatically stop living your life for yourself.

Excellent, I totally agree Purity. Also, I think there was something to Charles Manson’s teachings on the dangers of money, idolatry, and selfishness of society...you seem to agree that parents these days are getting caught up in this selfish and evil rat race and the kids are suffering, and are thus learning and imitating – which is why each generation deteriorates a certain percentage more from the last.

Now that Short stuff mentioned political correctness, I would like to say that we need to stop all of these euphemisms.
No, your son doesn't suffer from ADD, he is just a ****ing lazy ****. African Americans are black people. Eat ****.

No, your son doesn't suffer from ADD, he is just a ****ing lazy ****.

Yes, but we are adressing the question of “why?” Bad fruit always comes from a bad tree. If fruit is judged by the fruit then the tree will keep growing because we choose not to look at WHERE the fruit is coming from. The tree must be chopped down; we’re simply elaborating on WHY and WHAT causes the tree to go bad in the first place.

BAd fruit does not always come from a bad tree, but it will get spoiled if left unattended.

Purity slapped the correct!!!

BAd fruit does not always come from a bad tree, but it will get spoiled if left unattended.

You miss the analogy. It's a bad tree when the fruit constantly and continually comes out bad, or gradually worsens. I'm talking about generational evolution in society.

Parents have become gutless ******* in our society. I will always be thankful that my mom beat my ass everytime I got out of line.

All of this time out and let's talk bull**** psychology has to stop. You're not the kid's friend, you're his mother/ father.


My parenting pimp hand is strong. all i have to do is look at them and they know whats up.

I uunderstand Mouse is just that I'm still fiucked up by the lack of attention that this trailer park trash gave her kids!

More parents like Bobert = a better world

Referring back to Charles Manson and his good ideas – which is why we need to cut them down before they hurt our future society even more.

I only get complements from other people thatour kids are so well behaved. I would drag their ass out of a restraunt before i would disturb other patrons. That **** is ****ed up when parents sit there while the kids run the show.

I had a bunch of smilies but it says I used too many. Dammit.

Hmm...some MCM forum. You guys said it all before I even got here. ;)

I'm with Bzob on removing the kids from the diner. Jim did that once with Michelle, when she was about 4-5 and misbehaving. Picked her up, put her in the car for 10 minutes while we ate. (We could see her and get to her quick if need be, which, of course, was my concern.) None of the kids EVER misbehaved in a diner again.

Carlao, you should have complained to the manager. Loud enough complaints to the right people can get other people kicked out. I learned that with hotels too. Next time, do the whole diner a favor and complain. LOUDLY. You'll probably get a standing ovation from not only the other diners, but the staff.
It's what I would have done.

That woman needs Nanny 911. I bet her house is a disaster, the kids obviously have no respect because she isn't teaching the children any. Poor kids are going to grow up and blame their mother, rightly so in this case. Maybe someone needs to call child services on her.

Purity has it right when he said that responsible parenting is the hardest thing in the world to do. You give up your life for your kids. You make so many sacrifices in life to raise them right. I ground my kids, I'm grounded. I spank them, it hurts me too. I now understand my Dad's phrase, "This is gonna hurt me more than it hurts you".

Carlao is also correct in saying you can be your child's parent AND his/her friend. I am that with my girls. They are awesome as my friends, although they do know where the line is drawn. I have the utmost respect for both of them and still parent them, even when they resist it. I am MOM first. Danny, on the other hand, I am all MOM with him. It's what he needs, it is what he gets.

BTW, the petition against him was dismissed last week. He is a free kid now. He fulfilled his requirements to the satisfaction of the judge and the judge told him that he never wanted to see him again. Danny said "NO PROBLEM, SIR!" :D His behavior has improved and I am waiting for confirmation from the school, but he claims his grades are decent. No F's. Maybe 2 D's, but the rest are all a C or above. The No F's is a huge improvement!

You know you're doing a good job with your kids when you get compliments from others. They may be rotten at home, but they behave when not at home. That's good parenting.


There is a line between discipline and abuse. Being abused, I always feared crossing that line. And there are extenuating circumstances with kids like my son. And Bub, there are kids who really do suffer from ADD/ADHD. They need a different form of discipline. With them, you have to mix it up. That's what I've done with Danny and I've found it works. You just have to be consistent with some sort of discipline. There are certain things that stay the same, like the rules. No bending with a kid like that.

To treat your children fairly, you must treat them differently.
They are all different people.

Carlao, I have no fear that your children will come up fine. Purity's also. You guys have got it going on, when the time comes. Don't rush it.

my child will take over the world.
get on my ****list and you're on his or her's too. you all have been warned.

madcrewmom, I’m glad you took into account what I had said earlier in this thread; oh wait, you didn’t.

madcrewmom, I’m glad you took into account what I had said earlier in this thread; oh wait, you didn’t.


Yep, you're right. I didn't. So sorry.

What is it you would like me to say about your post?

Nothing, your mind is obviously too small to handle it, so I have empathy for you. Carry on.

well alrighty then.

Nothing, your mind is obviously too small to handle it, so I have empathy for you. Carry on.


If you have empathy for me, than the means you understand me from an experienced point of view.

Experience is not an absolute authority.
“You can be a PhD and be totally ignorant, while someone else who is completely illiterate can be wise.” –Michael Brown
Bottom line, the title of “experience” that you fall back on to justify all of your views, is a fallacy. You lack humility and humbleness which is stopping you from learning from me.

Experience is not an absolute authority.
“You can be a PhD and be totally ignorant, while someone else who is completely illiterate can be wise.” –Michael Brown
Bottom line, the title of “experience” that you fall back on to justify all of your views, is a fallacy. You lack humility and humbleness which is stopping you from learning from me.


Experience is from living life.

A PhD is a piece of paper they give you once you've completed the required courses from a book or lectures.

My experience as a parent is far from a "fallacy".

We all need more humility and humbleness on this forum. That I do not deny.

that PHD quote wasn't draggin on experience as a non-credible source of wisdom. afterall, someone with a PHD doesn't have ANY experience in their field of work (save maybe a month or two as an intern).

Is like a celibate giving advise about your sex life!!!!

MCM- I understand that their are kind with actual add or adhad, however that is a statiscal minority. And there is medications and treatment for it.

I do beleive in medical treatment, but in the case in hand of last night, it was just ****ed up parenting. What the **** does a 12 year old need to be doing sitting under the table at a restaurant, why the **** would a 9 year old tell his MOTHER to shut the **** up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This lady did not get off the cell until the food came in and then they ate like pigs and left a huge mess. The girl that cleaned was pissed and cursing in spanish the whole time. I think they undertipped to boot.

The problem is that goverment and society will not allow parents to take action and take care of their kids the way it should be and bad parents do nothing about it.

My kids, when I have them, will get a beatdown if asked for!!!!
Little Crumb-Snatchers

Is like a celibate giving advise about your sex life!!!!

MCM- I understand that their are kind with actual add or adhad, however that is a statiscal minority. And there is medications and treatment for it.

I do beleive in medical treatment, but in the case in hand of last night, it was just ****ed up parenting. What the **** does a 12 year old need to be doing sitting under the table at a restaurant, why the **** would a 9 year old tell his MOTHER to shut the **** up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This lady did not get off the cell until the food came in and then they ate like pigs and left a huge mess. The girl that cleaned was pissed and cursing in spanish the whole time. I think they undertipped to boot.

The problem is that goverment and society will not allow parents to take action and take care of their kids the way it should be and bad parents do nothing about it.

My kids, when I have them, will get a beatdown if asked for!!!!
Little Crumb-Snatchers


I agree with you. Many kids are misdiagnosed. My son was one of them. I don't always agree with the medications though. I've found other ways to help Danny. He mimics the signs of ADD/ADHD, but the meds would only help for a short time. That's how we found out that it wasn't ADHD, but the TBI. I knew it all along, I just had to convince everyone else...but it's done now and he's better behave. I get compliments now, instead of complaints. Thank God!

Yeah, there's no excuse for letting your kids run wild in public. That I agree.