View Full Version : Is BHOP a muslim ??


Super Cruiserweight
06-21-2005, 10:37 PM
Is Hopkins a muslim?

Cos just after BHOPs fight with Carl Daniels he was in a interview and was asked if he'll be drinking champaigne and HOP said "i havent tounched alcohol for 20 years" then he was asked why and he said "its against my beliefs"

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spinksjinx
06-21-2005, 10:51 PM
Is Hopkins a muslim?

Cos just after BHOPs fight with Carl Daniels he was in a interview and was asked if he'll be drinking champaigne and HOP said "i havent tounched alcohol for 20 years" then he was asked why and he said "its against my beliefs"

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Just because he doesnt drink alcohol doesnt mean it is for religious reasons. Perhaps it is against his beliefs to do so because it has ruined people he knows or it is bad for his training.

I have never heard of Hopkins speak on his religious views and stand points though.

jack_the_rippuh
06-21-2005, 10:55 PM
Muslims drink. Look at Ali after his fight with Foreman.

It might not be a religious thing for him, it might be a personal thing.

NOFX
06-21-2005, 11:01 PM
i think he meant his own personal beliefs, like getting his life back together after he was in all kinds of trouble 20 years ago

JUYJUY
06-21-2005, 11:41 PM
SC, I also believe that he's a Muslim. I've read an interview with Bernard where says that he's prayed 5 times a day every single day since his late teens when he was in prison.

Super Cruiserweight
06-22-2005, 12:01 AM
well if he didnt touch alcohol for 20 yrs and he wasnt a muslim then why the **** doesnt he drink ?? its not like its gonna kill him or anythin

jack_the_rippuh
06-22-2005, 12:12 AM
Why don't you take Crystal Meth? It won't kill you.

Xecutioner
06-22-2005, 12:16 AM
to answer your question yah he is

czars_salad
06-22-2005, 12:19 AM
i dont drink alcohol for 2 years now
does that makes me a muslim? :confused: :p

realheavyhands
06-22-2005, 12:30 AM
he is muslim

czars_salad
06-22-2005, 12:32 AM
he is muslim
so what's the big deal?

trickology
06-22-2005, 12:40 AM
he is muslim


He's Muslim, I think he mentioned it on the Jimmy Kimmel show or something. There was also an article on it in the Observer Newspaper in England

trickology
06-22-2005, 12:52 AM
My bad it was Jim rome, not jimmy kimmel. It's not surprising anyways, anyone whose been to Philly knows how many Muslims are there, especially in the ghettos like North and West Philly.
Here's the link http://www.********boxing.com/phil0610.html
"He was on "Jim Rome's Last Word" as well on Thursday night via Fox Sports Net. At the very end of the show, he was candid about religion. His (religion--Islam) dictates humbleness. And he has been nothing but humble despite the extraordinary amount of press he has gotten. Not to get on a rant or anything, but Bernard's showing of restraint in shoving religion in people's faces is welcome in my mind. While one really does not know the right times to bring it up, it sometimes comes out as impolite or improper right after a fight. Bernard has been patient and polite about it, which is a credit to him and the religion he practices. "

Manny_P
06-22-2005, 12:57 AM
ye know wut's funny?


When a fighta does the cross befo he fights, and the opponent does the same and one loses, does the one he worships like the other betta? LOL

moochi
06-22-2005, 04:52 AM
who cares what he is guys.....whatever his beliefs are let them be HIS.

Bombardier
06-22-2005, 08:10 AM
Not to get on a rant or anything, but Bernard's showing of restraint in shoving religion in people's faces is welcome in my mind. While one really does not know the right times to bring it up, it sometimes comes out as impolite or improper right after a fight. Bernard has been patient and polite about it, which is a credit to him and the religion he practices. "

Well said, though I actually don't mind so much when guys mention God after a boxing match. I mean, you're still so keyed up, so stuff like that is going to come out, you know? Just at look at some of the bizarre stuff Monte Barrett said after his win over Beck...I'm sure he doesn't talk like that in real life.

But overall people are far too preachy about their beliefs, and Hopkins restraint is a breath of fresh air.

manila_assasin
06-22-2005, 09:25 AM
I don't think he said that for his religious reason. B-hop is a dedicated boxer that maintains himself and takes good care of his body. That's probably why he's not drinking.

JUYJUY
06-22-2005, 10:25 AM
I don't see why fighters should not let it be known what they believe and thank God after fights etc. I'm a Muslim and if I was fighting I know that I'd be praising Allah after fights because I believe that Islam is the TRUTH. So if you don't like it, then that's your problem :) Go praise your precious Darwin after your fights or whatever. I don't see what the problem is.

Bombardier
06-22-2005, 10:30 AM
I don't see why fighters should not let it be known what they believe and thank God after fights etc. I'm a Muslim and if I was fighting I know that I'd be praising Allah after fights because I believe that Islam is the TRUTH. So if you don't like it, then that's your problem :) Go praise your precious Darwin after your fights or whatever. I don't see what the problem is.

You're from the UK, right? Over here in North America that sort of religious pride has been wrecked by evangelicals who condemn and generally annoy the hell out of everyone that doesn't agree with them. I'm not religious really but I don't have a problem with anyone who is. What I do have a problem with is people trying to shame me into agreeing with them and trying to change what I watch on TV, say, because of their personal views. I think that's why maybe people are a little more hostile to that sort of thing over here, you know?

JUYJUY
06-22-2005, 10:41 AM
You're from the UK, right? Over here in North America that sort of religious pride has been wrecked by evangelicals who condemn and generally annoy the hell out of everyone that doesn't agree with them. I'm not religious really but I don't have a problem with anyone who is. What I do have a problem with is people trying to shame me into agreeing with them and trying to change what I watch on TV, say, because of their personal views. I think that's why maybe people are a little more hostile to that sort of thing over here, you know?
It's just as bad in the UK if not worse, the UK is the least Religious part of the world. Muslims are bullied over here by the non-Religious and simply not accepted, but when a white who converted in his 20's shows up they don't know what to think.

I cannot stand most Christian's anymore because they lack open-mindedness, Muslims use Science to back up their beliefs (because there are scientific facts found in the Koran that simply could not of been known in Mohammed's day) whereas Christian's have no open-mindedness. They are stubborn people, and in my opinion they are riding with the devil. In Islam there is no compulsion, Allah guides who he pleases, no true Muslim pushes their Religion onto anybody (unlike Christians), but every true Muslim is proud to be a Muslim.

allanglez
06-22-2005, 10:42 AM
All black people who go to prison become Muslims. I think its a prerequisite for parole.

Super Cruiserweight
06-22-2005, 11:03 AM
I prefer muslims to christians becos they dont force their religion on ppl as much.I actualy do believe in creation! but i dont believe in religion,if one of the religions was true then its too difficult to judge which one is. ive read verses in the bible that say that those who didnt accept jesus will be kept in a storage place for 1000 yrs with chances to accept him and go to heaven while trying to be mislayed by the devil,and ive read verses in the quran that everybody will be dipped into hellfire to cleanse them of all wrong they did on earth before they enter paradise. so in my opinion the best bet is to accept neither,becos there is a chance that either are true,and you get to enjoy life on earth more. But yeah,I believe that we were created becos of the high level of design and accuracy for life to exist on earth.

scottydottie
06-23-2005, 02:54 AM
to answer your question yah he is


If he was muslim wouldn't he have changed his name? And for that dumbass that posted about him praying five times, doesn't matter he could be Christian and you can still pray five times a day.

ricecrispi
06-23-2005, 04:05 AM
Thank allah it help Hopkins get to where he is. Did crap for Tyson.

DR. FREECLOUD
06-23-2005, 09:09 AM
I prefer muslims to christians becos they dont force their religion on ppl as much.I actualy do believe in creation! but i dont believe in religion,if one of the religions was true then its too difficult to judge which one is. ive read verses in the bible that say that those who didnt accept jesus will be kept in a storage place for 1000 yrs with chances to accept him and go to heaven while trying to be mislayed by the devil,and ive read verses in the quran that everybody will be dipped into hellfire to cleanse them of all wrong they did on earth before they enter paradise. so in my opinion the best bet is to accept neither,becos there is a chance that either are true,and you get to enjoy life on earth more. But yeah,I believe that we were created becos of the high level of design and accuracy for life to exist on earth.

i don't understand why you think you can enjoy life more as a non-believer. what do you get to do that a believer can't do except treat people like **** and harm your own existence? please let me in on the secret fun that i am missing out on.

Bombardier
06-23-2005, 09:38 AM
i don't understand why you think you can enjoy life more as a non-believer. what do you get to do that a believer can't do except treat people like **** and harm your own existence? please let me in on the secret fun that i am missing out on.

I'm a non-believer and I treat people fine. It's an interesting question, though, though maybe someone should start a thread about it in the lounge...I hijack enough threads on this forum and am trying to cut back :) .

riz
06-23-2005, 09:45 AM
Muslims drink. Look at Ali after his fight with Foreman.

It might not be a religious thing for him, it might be a personal thing.
muslims dont drink man where r u at, im muslim myself, and tht was wen ali converted recently, and stuff with the nation of islam and stuff, (nevermind i aint gona get into it),
point is, im muslim, and i kno, that alcohol is against our beliefs

riz
06-23-2005, 09:48 AM
yo the 5 times prayer a day thing, theres like a method of it, so anyone who does that, is NOT christina, or any other belief..... ye this should be in the lounge, good respectful ppl here tho

jack_the_rippuh
06-23-2005, 11:22 AM
Oh...my bad.
Do they drink wine, riz?

Good question, Scottie.

If BHOP was a muslim why would he still carry the slave “massa's” name?

JUYJUY
06-23-2005, 11:25 AM
If he was muslim wouldn't he have changed his name?
No, I didn't change my name. We need to spread Islam in the Western World, and to do that we don't need Arabian names. We need to be Westerner's, doing Western things, with Western names.. to spread Islam in the Western World.

riz
06-23-2005, 11:26 AM
Oh...my bad.
Do they drink wine, riz?

Good question, Scottie.

If BHOP was a muslim why would he still carry the slave “massa's” name?
nah man, no alcohol wat so ever.

JUYJUY
06-23-2005, 11:27 AM
I don't mean complusion, because that's strictly forbidden in Islam. I mean, you know, if Westerner's see white Muslims in the Western World with Western names then Islam will spread without compulsion.

JUYJUY
06-23-2005, 11:29 AM
Naseem Hamed was a virgin until he was about 25! He had a long-term girlfriend, but Islam strictly forbids sex before marriage and so Naz and his girlfriend decided to wait until they were 100% certain that they wanted to spend the rest of their lives together before they married and had sex. Islam is about living the purest life possible, to bring you closer to God.

Tha Greatest
06-23-2005, 11:33 AM
Naseem Hamed was a virgin until he was about 25! He had a long-term girlfriend, but Islam strictly forbids sex before marriage and so Naz and his girlfriend decided to wait until they were 100% certain that they wanted to spend the rest of their lives together before they married and had sex. Islam is about living the purest life possible, to bring you closer to God.

That's a long time.

jack_the_rippuh
06-23-2005, 11:39 AM
I doubt it's true, though.

JUYJUY
06-23-2005, 11:53 AM
It's nothing to brag about so it must be true! (if you think about it).

DR. FREECLOUD
06-23-2005, 11:56 AM
No, I didn't change my name. We need to spread Islam in the Western World, and to do that we don't need Arabian names. We need to be Westerner's, doing Western things, with Western names.. to spread Islam in the Western World.

so it is all about spreading the religion. i knew it. so in essence its really no different than any other religion in that way. and being muslim and being nation of islam are two totally different things. the nation of islam is a very strange variation of islam.

jack_the_rippuh
06-23-2005, 12:01 PM
Kind of like how being Catholic and Christian are two totally different things.

DR. FREECLOUD
06-23-2005, 12:19 PM
Kind of like how being Catholic and Christian are two totally different things.

no jack being catholic you are christian.

riz
06-23-2005, 12:53 PM
so it is all about spreading the religion. i knew it. so in essence its really no different than any other religion in that way. and being muslim and being nation of islam are two totally different things. the nation of islam is a very strange variation of islam.
ye the nation of islam is completely differnt, i ll explain it, there was elijah muhammad who claimed to be the last prophet, and the new muslims, who converted, joined his lil tribe, and started believing what he told them... so a lot of gyz left then, like malcolm x (most ppl suspect he was killed somehway by elijah), ali joined him to, then left also.... briefly rubin carter was also with him, so thts puer bullhsit

jack_the_rippuh
06-23-2005, 01:00 PM
So in your opinion, Riz, was Elijah Muhammad corrupt?

DR. FREECLOUD
06-23-2005, 01:10 PM
ye the nation of islam is completely differnt, i ll explain it, there was elijah muhammad who claimed to be the last prophet, and the new muslims, who converted, joined his lil tribe, and started believing what he told them... so a lot of gyz left then, like malcolm x (most ppl suspect he was killed somehway by elijah), ali joined him to, then left also.... briefly rubin carter was also with him, so thts puer bullhsit

malcom went to the middle east to study islam and when he came back he had decided that he was gonna be a traditional muslim. and its pretty good to assume that the nation had him killed. then this Louis Farrakhan dude totally messed it up. talking about aliens, saying elijah and some other clown are in a spaceship in the outer galaxy.

fight fan
06-23-2005, 03:16 PM
I personally have absolutely no use for organized religion! There are too many different religions with too many different variations of each with completely different stories to tell! Who is correct? If you say you are, then you are just brainwashed! Each religion was organized and created by a human being at different times and places in history! The koran, the new and old testament...etc. were written by human hands. If any of you are believers in their faith, good for you! My only issue is when people stress their religions upon others. It is clear from reading some of the posts that the Muslim people have an agenda to "spread islam" to the western world!!

Hopkins as far as I have heard and read is a believing Muslim. But, unlike Hamed and others like him, Hopkins has his faith and he keeps it to himself. I wish everyone would do the same! If praying and following your religion helps you, great! I personally feel that if there is anything beyond our world, it is there universally for all living things.

JUYJUY
06-23-2005, 03:28 PM
If praying and following your religion helps you, great!
We only do it because it's compulsory, to get to paradise.