McKay or Wittmann?

McKay or Wittmann?

Lets see, I see Pabst Blue Ribbon on the porch in the background there. Meaning you must be somewhat a redneck. So I would pick McKay over the wussy Euro.

I think McKay takes him and thats just what I think. He might have fifty times the confidence. I can tell by the way he posts.

Wittman is a *****...McKay by a landslide.

Just because a person drinks Pabst that makes them a redneck? Pabst is good beer for domestic, IMO way better than Budweiser or MGD or Old Style or Old Milwaukee, or Miller High Life, or Special Export.

Most American beers suck, really. What do American beers and two people having sex in a boat have in common? They're ****ing close to water!

McKay takes Wittman.

Wittman's handspeed is very underrated. I wouldn't be suprised if Wittman won a UD.

Wittman's handspeed is very underrated. I wouldn't be suprised if Wittman won a UD.


No one has brought up that point And with me it is well taken however I feel that McKay has a tendency to get dirty when he is being outclassed and I can easily see this ending in a Golota like disqualification if the speed of Whitman proves as you say to be too much.

McKay gets disqualified in the 10th for rupturing Whitmans testicles...the left one was ruptured in the 5th (McKay was deducted a point) and the right one gets ruptured in the 10th (Kenny Bayless has no choice but to halt the bout because of non stop bleeding from whitman's crotch)...As Whitman is stumbling around the ring like a fool with two ruptured testicles he stumbles into Mckay and says there won't be no remtach and Mckay who has two good testicles but is just as drained says back "dont want one"

I think we have heard that before...nice job though McKay I respect a guy who no matter what refuses to loose!

I understand where you're coming from, but I've once heard that Mckay's overhand right is a automatic fight ender. What do you see being the key to Whitman avoiding the brutal overhand right?

I feel that McKay has a tendency to get dirty when he is being outclassed !


If anybody were prone to cheating in this match it would no doubt be Wittmann. The only way Wittmann could possibly defeat me is by blatant cheating. Even with his cheating antics he still would not have prayer against me. I have an iron chin, a devastating overhand right and a snapping left jab that will cause welts on any part of the body it lands on. And most importantly a tenacity in fighting which he can never hope to fully realize.

I once fought 25 rounds against my older and bigger cousin. 12 of those rounds with a broken pointer finger that is still grossly disfiguered to this day.

If anybody were prone to cheating in this match it would no doubt be Wittmann. The only way Wittmann could possibly defeat me is by blatant cheating. Even with his cheating antics he still would not have prayer against me. I have an iron chin, a devastating overhand right and a snapping left jab that will cause welts on any part of the body it lands on. And most importantly a in fighting tenacity which he can never hope to fully realize.


McKay I understand all of this but he is quicker than you.

I understand where you're coming from, but I've once heard that Mckay's overhand right is a automatic fight ender. What do you see being the key to Whitman avoiding the brutal overhand right?


Another high quality point...as you will surely remember Jack a fellow by the name of Tito Trinidad had a left hook that drew similiar comparisons to that of McKay's showstopping right hand.

Now based upon what I have heard on the street is that if Whitman can couple that superior speed of his with a laser guided jab he has a shot but like I said earlier I think McKay is coming to win this fight regardless of what he has to do in the ring...McKay will do what is necessary just like Iron Mike did what was necessary against Holy in their return bout,this much I do know.

Keep in mind that Whitman is rumored to have iron testicles and it is McKay's over hand right in myt opinion that will indeed rupture both testicles...so... hell your right I guess McKay's overhand right will end up telling the tale...

Scap, You've made some excellent points but how good is Whitman at taking shots, since we both know he's a slickster? Does Whitman have a quality chin?

I heard somewhere that Whittman has the feet to be fleetfooted is this true jack .?

Another high quality point...as you will surely remember Jack a fellow by the name of Tito Trinidad had a left hook that drew similiar comparisons to that of McKay's showstopping right hand.

Now based upon what I have heard on the street is that if Whitman can couple that superior speed of his with a laser guided jab he has a shot but like I said earlier I think McKay is coming to win this fight regardless of what he has to do in the ring...McKay will do what is necessary just like Iron Mike did what was necessary against Holy in their return bout,this much I do know.

Keep in mind that Whitman is rumored to have iron testicles and it is McKay's over hand right in myt opinion that will indeed rupture both testicles...so... hell your right I guess McKay's overhand right will end up telling the tale...

I cannnot belive you are saying Wittmann would fight with more dignity and class than myself. This is one of the biggest insults ever. I never fight dirty.
Not even against Mexican gang members that out age me and outweigh me by 60 pounds.

I heard somewhere that Whittman has the feet to be fleetfooted is this true jack .?

Whittman has the feet to dance around the ring like Sugar Ray Leonard, but he doesn't really like using his legs, because it takes alot of gas from him in the late going and with his feather fists, he needs all the energy he can get since he hardly ever stops any of his opponents. He likes standing in the pocket and making his opponents miss. His chin is suspect, though. So to answer your question, yes he does have feet to be fleetfooted.

Whittman has the feet to dance around the ring like Sugar Ray Leonard, but he doesn't really like using his legs, because it takes alot of gas from him in the late going and with his feather fists, he needs all the energy he can get since he hardly ever stops any of his opponents. He likes standing in the pocket and making his opponents miss. His chin is suspect, though. So to answer your question, yes he does have feet to be fleetfooted.

Oh good jack your back hey jack. did mckay say that whittman had the feet to be fleetfooted jack .? because i heard some where whittman was called fleetfooted by Mckay is this true jack .?

I have some early footage of McKay and Whitman when they were both younger. They sparred once as amateurs and at the end of the 2nd round McKay was noticeably breathing heavier and his corner said, "McKay, you got to close in on this mother-****er if you want to get your shots in."

McKay all panting and trying to catch his breath replied saying, "I can't, this mother-****er is just too fleet-footed."

McKay's decisive knock down on Whittman (what many observes felt was a slip from McKay stepping on his foot.) made the contest end up being a draw.

Scap, You've made some excellent points but how good is Whitman at taking shots, since we both know he's a slickster? Does Whitman have a quality chin?


Boy o boy you have really made me rethink how I see this one shaping up, ****!

I completely overlooked the fact that Whitman has little or no chin...I have not made such an error in judgement since I took JC Chavez by late knockout over PErnell Whitaker...give me a break I was still young and thought the body attack was going to tell the tale.

Now that I have thought about this superfight a bit more I have come to the conclusion that Whitman is going to have a real tough time crossing the pond...he will most definately be homesick as he arrrives in vegas (I believe they are fighting at the Thomas n MAck Center right?)

From some of the inside info I have recieved in the past 24 hours from the internet as well as the black market It has been brought to my attention that Whitman was as diehard a UNLV Runnin REbel fan as there was...I mean he loves all the boys like Augmon and Johnson and Ackles and Spencer and Anthony...hell I know there are pictures taken by paparazzi of whitman and Anderson Hunt all over the net...I meran this **** is common knowledge especially here in the states.

Anyways when LV was shocked by Duke the word is that Whitman was never the same and at one point swore to some of his closest friends that he would never speak of the Runnin Rebels again...I believe it is well documented that he completely quit watching the NBA simply because his boys from Nevad LAs Vegas were now in the league...

If you can understand what Im saying here, which is anything that reminds him of Tark's boyz will put him in a talespin and he will bug out in a fashion similiar to Cougar in Top Gun.
Now I know what your saying how could Whitman agree to fight at the Thomas n Mack Center...the answer is too simple, he didn't agree he thinks they are fighting at the Regent Ballroom about 35 miles off the strip...what he does not know and will know soon is that the fight has been moved because of a horrible bleach accident in the ballroom.

The fight was then supposed to be moved over to the MGM grand but as it turns out Fernando Montiel has already had the place reserved for months for a family reunion and he is not about to give that reservation up for a couple of white boyz...****in A go figure right?

Anyways with all of this said I believe that Whitman and his glass jaw will travel across the pond only to have old wounds reopened...just the site of the Thoimas n MAck will bring back memories of Laetner and Hurley...trust me Whitman is not human when it comes to this subject and like I said earlier he will bug out just like Cougar...luckily enough for McKay there will be no MAverick and Goose to fill in for him...

It saddens me to say this but the fight is most likely never going to happen-it will be called and that will be that...McKAy will probably never fight again and Whitman will go into hiding somewhere far far away...so far in fact that he will never hear the words/name George Ackles again...

Man if UMLV could have only finished off that perfect season, if Tarkanian would have used the Ameba D a little sooner maybe just maybe we all would have been able to enjoy one of the better prizefights of our lifetime...**** I hate Duke.

Whitman look at it this way, regardless of hoiw well you foguht you were goig to get your testicles ruptured so not fighting is a good thing for you and as for you McKay...well your a survivor not too mention a Nialist as well, youll be all right, youll be all right kid!

Scap....can you answer this question? Do you think this megafight has the makings of Hagler v.s. Hearns? both guys are no nonsense warriors. How would you compare Whittman and Mckay to these fighters: and do you think they have a chance at being considered two of the greatest fighters to ever embrace the sport?

I heard from Jack that Whittman's skill is comparable to a prime Muhammad Ali, but now that you have discussed these elements: I also think Mckay's laser right and granite chin might make the difference: do you?

Interesting you bring up Hagler/Hearns, because I think McKay's only way to win is by the knockout. This guy, Whittman is a ring general. He can make Jessica Alba look bad in there. The thing what will pose the biggest challenge for McKay is getting Whittman to fight that dirty alley fight. Whittman has confidence in his boxing skills and knows that he can win the fight on the score cards, what will it take for McKay to bring Whittman into fighting his fight?

If we are going to base this on their last 5 fights as pros: Its obvious that McKay has fought the better opposition.

McKay:

TKO 1 over Handz Jobb
K.O.1 over Rowdy Cracker
TKO 2 over Marc "the doorbell" Chyme
K.O.1 over Joey "the postman" corleone
K.O.3 over John Tyson

Whittman:

UD over Dick Sinumouth
SD over "Irish" Tayfonne Jackson
UD over Skeet "Big Skeetin" Sharapovic
UD over Chett Danza
SD over Dave "You Cant Touch This" Hammer

what will it take for McKay to bring Whittman into fighting his fight?

McKay will surely have to look out for Whittman's patented behind the back uppercutt combinations.

A white supremacist vs. a Nazi panzer tank commander?

I don't get it. Shouldn't they get along?

Like I said before I have very good sources that say this fight is not coming off...eventually we will have to face those facts...

Now is this HAgler v. Hearns????

Withoutha mother ****ing doubt!!!!!!!!!!!!

Don't be to discouraged McKay...I know you have trained damn hard for this war and to see it not come off will probably be devastating...but...

Look at it this way you are in great shape, hell the shape of your life and your confidence is sky high...when these two elements of s person are aligned right you have two options 1)get in the ring and 2)which is your best option now...go out and start penetrating *****es!

Look at it this way you are in great shape, hell the shape of your life and your confidence is sky high...when these two elements of s person are aligned right you have two options 1)get in the ring and 2)which is your best option now...go out and start penetrating *****es!

I dont think I am going anywhere today except maybe the hospital. I screwed my ankle up really bad last night and can barely walk and its swelling like a motherf***er.

And Torino in regards to you. I dont hate Wittmann I think he is kinda funny in a way. You however are a long standing member of my ignore list and I think you probably know why. Calling a "white sumpremecist" etc....LIke the others such as Bombardier do.

It is a very weak defence mechanism.



Victims of the Isreali terror campangne should have their original properties restored to them and also be compensated by the State of Isreal monatarily in the form of 1$ Million dollars for every refugee. Jews will no longer be the majority in Isreal. But the injustice of the Jewish ethinc clensing of the Palestinians in 1948 will be prosecuted no less. If Isreal does not grant equal rights to its Arab citezins upon their return than they should be punished for violation of the UN Human Rights charter same as South Africa was. The United States should consider the use of Military force to enforce these resolutions.

Inspired by these kind of posts. You dont try to argue me on points so you just revert to character assasination, trying to people banned, labeling, name calling etc...

I dont think I am going anywhere today except maybe the hospital. I screwed my ankle up really bad last night and can barely walk and its swelling like a motherf***er.

And Torino in regards to you. I dont hate Wittmann I think he is kinda funny in a way. You however are a long standing member of my ignore list and I think you probably know why. Calling a "white sumpremecist" etc....LIke the others such as Bombardier do.

It is a very weak defence mechanism.



Inspired by these kind of posts. You dont try to argue me on points so you just revert to character assasination, trying to people banned, labeling, name calling etc...


Hold the phone...Whitman cancel the travel plans...BREAKING NEWS, BREAKING MOTHER****ING NEWS!!!!!!!!!

McKAy has just pulled out of the fight with a reall ****ed up ankle, he was afraid to say it but im not that ankle is ****ed up!

At least we have Gatti v. Mayweather this weekend...this will have to suffice us...

Hold the phone...Whitman cancel the travel plans...BREAKING NEWS, BREAKING MOTHER****ING NEWS!!!!!!!!!

McKAy has just pulled out of the fight with a reall ****ed up ankle, he was afraid to say it but im not that ankle is ****ed up!

At least we have Gatti v. Mayweather this weekend...this will have to suffice us...

I have had this injury before I will probably be ready to go in 2 weeks. This injury will cut into my training time but nothing more. I dont need to train to fight a bumb anyway.

Hold the phone...Whitman cancel the travel plans...BREAKING NEWS, BREAKING MOTHER****ING NEWS!!!!!!!!!


I hope ticketmaster will refund my purchase.

McKay pulls out! McKay pulls out!

The fight isn't going to happen until early september at best, but they might not get any attention, because as we know september is De La Hoya's month.

McKay pulls out! McKay pulls out!

The fight isn't going to happen until early september at best, but they might not get any attention, because as we know september is De La Hoya's month.

I am not pulling out I just need a week delay for my ankle to recover properly.

I am not pulling out I just need a week delay for my ankle to recover properly.


Cmon McKay you have pulled out...Whitman is not going to give you a week your ankle injury isn't like 9/11 (referencing the couple week delay in the Tito/Hopkins match).

The fight is off and I think many will wonder...Did McKay really want this fight?

Cmon McKay you have pulled out...Whitman is not going to give you a week your ankle injury isn't like 9/11 (referencing the couple week delay in the Tito/Hopkins match).

The fight is off and I think many will wonder...Did McKay really want this fight?

I will have to fight this bumb with a 65% right ankle then but oh well. I will even fight in Germany, I dont give a ****. The fight is not going to the cards anyway.

I dont understand McKay. With the experienced medical staff you employ, how come the doctors cant give you a temporary fix?

I would suggest for McKay to use the drug James Toney used to rebuild his bicep and tricept, but he could get disqualified for that.

I am a 4-1 favorite so far. I was originally 6-1 but apparently the ankle thing has skewed the odds a bit more in favor of Wittmann.

Wittmann I am kicking your ass so far. You are 4.5 to 1 underdog against me.

do you know what wittmann looks like, he could be 250lbs of brick **** house for all you know, it's unlikely but still possible lol

i have a superiour will to brutality..

RRR.....REZISTANCE IZ USELEZZ, JAH!!!!

i, by family tradition, fight under the ancient european knights code of honour, and ill off course slay both you and your swollen ancle, *****..

i have been trained under principles of the secret and forbidden teachings of organic vitality.

mckay.. i am an all together different creature than you..

all your talk of jabs and overbackhands simply dont apply..

facing my classic olympic spartan upbringing - and my highteck and out of this world present body capabilities.. i am a god, and you..

you will be made to look like a ragdoll - mopping the floor..

....... :D

i have a superiour will to brutality..

RRR.....REZISTANCE IZ USELEZZ, JAH!!!!

i, by family tradition, fight under the ancient european knights code of honour, and ill off course slay both you and your swollen ancle, *****..

i have been trained under principles of the secret and forbidden teachings of organic vitality.

mckay.. i am an all together different creature than you..

all your talk of jabs and overbackhands simply dont apply..

facing my classic olympic spartan upbringing - and my highteck and out of this world present body capabilities.. i am a god, and you..

you will be made to look like a ragdoll - mopping the floor..

....... :D
have you ever been in a scrap before wittmann?

have you ever been in a scrap before wittmann?

have you ever won a scrap, fatboy? :D

have you ever won a scrap, fatboy? :D

LOL. That was ****ing priceless. Im not chosing sides....Im just saying that was some funny ****ing ****.

have you ever won a scrap, fatboy? :D
you pressume i'm fat, whys that? :D

Since I don't know either of you I'm staying neutral in this one.

you pressume i'm fat, whys that? :D

cause you choose words like "pressume" - that would indicate that youre both fat and annoyed for having it pointed out to you - of all places, here in your alternate universe.. :D

cause you choose words like "pressume" - that would indicate that youre both fat and annoyed for having it pointed out to you - of all places, here in your alternate universe.. :D

This guy is funny.

Yeah well you are still 3-1 underdog. You would never be outscrap me wittmann that much I can guarantee. You dont have the tenacity that I possess or the experience.

And what a lame ass training regime "Organic Vitaliy." What the f**K is that you drink snapple everyday or something.

For the smack your talking you would be lucky if I did not break you neck you Romanian turd.

I need to see a picture of Wittman to get an idea how tough he is. No offence Mc Kay........but if that is really you in that picture you don't look like you are that tough. In fact you look a bit glassy jawed to me. Yes I know, pictures can be very deceiving.
Later brother brologs. P.S I have heard rumors that Wittman is built like a tank.

I need to see a picture of Wittman to get an idea how tough he is. No offence Mc Kay........but if that is really you in that picture you don't look like you are that tough. In fact you look a bit glassy jawed to me. Yes I know, pictures can be very deceiving.
Later brother brologs. P.S I have heard rumors that Wittman is built like a tank.

Wittmann talks up a good game, but I guarantee that I could take this guy. Maybe he is bigger than me, but I have fought guys that probably bigger than him. I have fought guys that 200 plus pounds a pure scrap, not a boxing match a ****ing scrap. I dropped one these 200 ****ers with one overhand right and then I got on top of him pummeled his face into mush.

You are questioning my ability to take a punch. I was hit clean in the nose (and broke it) by a big guy, near 200 pounds and big puncher. It was completely in the dark and I did not see the punch coming at all and it did not knock me down or even stagger me really. It weakened me momentarily but then then I drove the ****er back and pushed him down a flight of stairs he got up, I cracked him with an overhand right and stomped his skull onto a concrete basement floor. The ****er had a knife too and he cut me in my hand.

The problem with the internet is that you never really know just who you are talking to. ;) There are lots of extreemly dangerous thugs out there.
Later brother brologs.

Here is a picture of the scar from that bastards knife


http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y232/McKay1/scar3.jpg

Wittmann talks up a good game, but I guarantee that I could take this guy. Maybe he is bigger than me, but I have fought guys that probably bigger than him. I have fought guys that 200 plus pounds a pure scrap, not a boxing match a ****ing scrap. I dropped one these 200 ****ers with one overhand right and then I got on top of him pummeled his face into mush.

You are questioning my ability to take a punch. I was hit clean in the nose by a big guy, near 200 pounds and big puncher. It was completely in the dark and I did not see the punch coming at all and it did not knock me down or even stagger me really. It weakened me momentarily but then then I drove the ****er back and pushed him down a flight of stairs he got up, I cracked him with an overhand right and stomped his skull onto a concrete basement floor. The ****er had a knife too and he cut me in my hand.This means that what I said about pictures being deceiving is correct. There are probably tougher looking people than TNT(not many though), however it is impossible for Tucker to be forced to lean back.
Later brother brologs.

This means that what I said about pictures being deceiving is correct. There are probably tougher looking people than TNT(not many though), however it is impossible for Tucker to be forced to lean back.
Later brother brologs.


You think guys that where Tennis shirts cant fight or are not tough well you are wrong. I where f***king tennis attire and will scrap with absolutely anybody anytime anyplace.

i have a superiour will to brutality..

RRR.....REZISTANCE IZ USELEZZ, JAH!!!!

i, by family tradition, fight under the ancient european knights code of honour, and ill off course slay both you and your swollen ancle, *****..

i have been trained under principles of the secret and forbidden teachings of organic vitality.

mckay.. i am an all together different creature than you..

all your talk of jabs and overbackhands simply dont apply..

facing my classic olympic spartan upbringing - and my highteck and out of this world present body capabilities.. i am a god, and you..

you will be made to look like a ragdoll - mopping the floor..

....... :D

I would opine that your family are a bunch of muck shovelers compared to mine you German Wannabe. You know my Grandmother was born in Lorraine, France. Her uncle lived on the German side of the border and he was an officer in the Kriegsmarine in World War II. In the ashkanazim Navy which you so respect. His last name was Bernhard. He died shortly after World War II and my grandmother inherited his state in Germany which she was never able to collect for some political reasons.

I dont usually mention this though because it not something I am pround of. I have mentioned it once or twice before though.

And Torino in regards to you. I dont hate Wittmann I think he is kinda funny in a way. You however are a long standing member of my ignore list and I think you probably know why. Calling a "white sumpremecist" etc....LIke the others such as Bombardier do.


You gave me bad karma because I disapproved of the Nazi's persecution of the Jews. Not to mention the other "superior race" type comments you've made. Isn't it ironic that people I usually argue with have come to the same conclusion about you? That says it all.

Also, I never said you hated Wittmann. Why would you? The real Wittmann was a Nazi.

If I were you, I would never speak of or respond to this topic again. Things of this nature have a way of coming back to you.

You gave me bad karma because I disapproved of the Nazi's persecution of the Jews. Not to mention the other "superior race" type comments you've made. Isn't it ironic that people I usually argue with have come to the same conclusion about you? That says it all.

Also, I never said you hated Wittmann. Why would you? The real Wittmann was a Nazi.

If I were you, I would never speak of or respond to this topic again. Things of this nature have a way of coming back to you.

F****k you jew propaganda. I dont want to hear it. They are called the nazies becauase it is an abreviation of ashkanazim. Why would you abreviate NSDAP to Nazi? There were tons of Jews in teh "nazi" hierachy. Hitler's last name before his dad changed it was the Yiddish name Schickelgruber. How do I know all this. I went through all the records of practically every Kriegsmarine officer there was in the German Navy between 1933 and 1945 and a whole bunch of these officers got yiddish names like Rosenberg and ****. Also I have been to Germany, and thereis Jewish symbology f***ing everywhere you go.

The reason I am not pround I had an uncle in the German Navy is because Germany invaded other countries that did not want any part in war for no reason. A case can be made that the Invasion of certain countries was justfied. But not to invade Norway Denmark Netherlands Lithuania Belgium Luxembourg.

F****k you jew propaganda. I dont want to hear it. They are called the nazies becauase it is an abreviation of ashkanazim. There were tons of Jews in teh "nazi" hierachy. Hitler's last name before his dad changed it was the Yiddish name Schickelgruber. How do I know all this. I went through all the records of practically every Kriegsmarine officer there was in the German Navy between 1933 and 1945 and a whole bunch of these officers got names like Rosenberg and ****.

I'm not surprised. Lots of people study their Idol.

You gave me bad karma because I disapproved of the Nazi's persecution of the Jews. Not to mention the other "superior race" type comments you've made. Isn't it ironic that people I usually argue with have come to the same conclusion about you? That says it all.

Also, I never said you hated Wittmann. Why would you? The real Wittmann was a Nazi.

If I were you, I would never speak of or respond to this topic again. Things of this nature have a way of coming back to you.

That is why they are called the f**ing Nazies. not the Germans. not the National Socialists. The whole relationship between the Nazi regime and the Jews is grotesque fantasy world. I have been to Germany cunt, I have relatives near there, I have talked to them. I am not f***ing ignorant, the world's ignorance pisses me off sometimes. You however are not ignorant just a liar.

Another important fact. No Nazi Regime. No Isreal.

No world war I no World war II

The "Evil Princes" that must be overthrown speaken of in the Jewish Talmud continue their rule.

The Nazi hierachy were Jews. That is why they are called the f**ing Nazies. not the Germans. not the National Socialists. The whole relationship between the Nazi regime and the Jews is grotesque fantasy world. I have been to Germany cunt, I have relatives near there, I have talked to them. I am not f***ing ignorant, the world's ignorance pisses me off sometimes. You however are not ignorant just a liar.

The fact that you have relatives there, you studied them, and you are defending them now isn't helping your cause.

You don't listen very well do you? You realy shouldn't draw attention to yourself regarding this topic.

Oh, and I lied about nothing. You did give me bad karma because I disapproved of the Nazi's persecution of the Jews.

The fact that you have relatives there, you studied them, and you are defending them now isn't helping your cause.

You don't listen very well do you? You realy shouldn't draw attention to yourself regarding this topic.

Oh, and I lied about nothing. You did give me bad karma because I disapproved of the Nazi's persecution of the Jews.

If I ever gave you bad Karma its because your a filthy liar and for no other reason. Your are disingenuous and lack integrity. If I had the chance to give you more bad Karma I certainly would.

You also missed the point where I said "near" there. They dont live in Germany. They live in Lorraine, France and are patriotically French.

If I ever gave you bad Karma its because your a filthy liar and for no other reason. Your are disingenuous and lack integrity. If I had the chance to give you more bad Karma I certainly would.

You more than likely would give me bad karma as well.

If I ever gave you bad Karma its because your a filthy liar and for no other reason. Your are disingenuous and lack integrity. If I had the chance to give you more bad Karma I certainly would.

Funny you should say that. You can't give me bad Karma now because you already did when I disapproved of the Nazi's persecution of the Jews.

I find Nazi's persecuting Jews a strange concept because the word Nazi refers to a group Jews that originate in Germany. So shut up with your filthy propaganda. If there is anything I world I hate. It is this.

You think guys that where Tennis shirts cant fight or are not tough well you are wrong. I where f***king tennis attire and will scrap with absolutely anybody anytime anyplace.


No you wouldn't.

No you wouldn't.

Maybe not Gannon or Kimbo Slice but pretty much anybody else after a couple brews. Maybe even them If I hit the spiced Rum. I never said I won every scrap I was ever in. But I have won them all with the exception of one.

If I say Mike Tyson on the street and I was drunk I would have to hit him in his jaw and then let him beat my ass just to say I got KO'd by Tyson.

I find Nazi's persecuting Jews a strange concept because the word Nazi refers to a group Jews that originate in Germany. So shut up with your filthy propaganda. If there is anything I world I hate. It is this.

The definition of Nazi is,

Nazi - (nat`zi) a member of the National Socialist party of Germany (1922-1945)

You should know this.

I dont care what Jewish propagand dictionary says. You and I both know the real defintion. That is why your on ignore. I am interested in having any association with dedicated liars. Go back to the Soviet Union to pedal your filth.

The tragedy of World War II is that there was no good side. Except the neutral countries. Like Argentina, South America.

Maybe not Gannon or Kimbo Slice but pretty much anybody else after a couple brews. Maybe even them If I hit the spiced Rum. I never said I won every scrap I was ever in. But I have won them all with the exception of one.


I've been in 3 full-fledged fights, and everytime it was a last resort, but I've seen some mother****ers that you wouldn't want to fight. I've choked out 2 people and shattered 4 bones in the other guys face after being stabbed and called the N word.

Fighting is overrated anyway. It only lands you in two places, hospital or jail. Actually it sucks, and it should only be used as a last resort.

I've been in 3 full-fledged fights, and everytime it was a last resort, but I've seen some mother****ers that you wouldn't want to fight. I've choked out 2 people and shattered 4 bones in the other guys face after being stabbed and called the N word.

Fighting is overrated anyway. It only lands you in two places, hospital or jail. Actually it sucks, and it should only be used as a last resort.

I was locked up in the pen with a guy named Nacho. He shaved his chest hair to where it looked like a crucifix. he was burned and tattooed and made kimbo slice look small. he was a ****ing animal.

I was locked up in the pen with a guy named Nacho. He shaved his chest hair to where it looked like a crucifix. he was burned and tattooed and made kimbo slice look small. he was a ****ing animal.


If you've been to pen I bet you seen some crazy **** man. You got the first hand accounts of scary mother****ers.

But that's just why I say that McKay wouldn't (or maybe just shouldn't...hell he might be a crazy **** too) fight anyone any time. As tough as everyone thinks that they are there is always somebody badder than you are.

If you've been to pen I bet you seen some crazy **** man. You got the first hand accounts of scary mother****ers.

But that's just why I say that McKay wouldn't (or maybe just shouldn't...hell he might be a crazy **** too) fight anyone any time. As tough as everyone thinks that they are there is always somebody badder than you are.

Im a ****ing Punk. Ill tell you that first hand. When I was locked up...I did whatever these ****ers said. There was a veterano mafioso named Cilo, and he used to tell me to clean tables. I did it. I wasnt about to challenge someone who would have me ****ing beat down.

Not that I cant fight. But I used to think I could. And got my ass handed to me.

Mckay. If you spent 1 1/2 years in Canizares-Rucker detention center like I did. You wouldnt have the same attitude. That whole Punching tyson thing you talk about is ****ing dumb.

Im a ****ing Punk. Ill tell you that first hand. When I was locked up...I did whatever these ****ers said. There was a veterano mafioso named Cilo, and he used to tell me to clean tables. I did it. I wasnt about to challenge someone who would have me ****ing beat down.

Not that I cant fight. But I used to think I could. And got my ass handed to me.


Exactly. Self preservation man...I'd rather be a ****ing punk and be alive than be a tough guy whos in a wheelchair or dead.

I'm lucky that I haven't encountered anyone who has come remotely close to kicking my ass...only a ***** with a knife and a couple of guys who talked tough but then got choked the **** out. Glass necks I guess.

I dont care what Jewish propagand dictionary says. You and I both know the real defintion. That is why your on ignore. I am interested in having any association with dedicated liars. Go back to the Soviet Union to pedal your filth.

The tragedy of World War II is that there was no good side. Except the neutral countries. Like Argentina, South America.

WOW.. You have reached a new low McKay. That post really brings into perspective the kind of person you are. No good side.......OMG!

Oh, you should see the flag waving in front of my house, It's a big, proud 4'/6' AMERICAN flag on a 25' pole representing my ancestors that died helping to kick your idol Hitler's ass!

We can talk about this more when you get a job move out of your parents house. Have a nice day.

Exactly. Self preservation man...I'd rather be a ****ing punk and be alive than be a tough guy whos in a wheelchair or dead.

I'm lucky that I haven't encountered anyone who has come remotely close to kicking my ass...only a ***** with a knife and a couple of guys who talked tough but then got choked the **** out. Glass necks I guess.

Even at that man. I try to avoid trouble. In prison, you get alot of trouble from the gaurds. they try to bully you and ****. they threaten you with everything they have. they tell you they are going to put you in violent detention if you talk back. whenever they wake you up for shakedowns, to check your bunk for illegal stuff..they hit you and ****. If you talk back, they kick your ****ing ass and dont think twice.

This whole tough guy thing is overrated. I think alot of posters on here are kids that dont know what its like to get punished.

Yeah my Grandfather, Finlay, was in World War II for the United States as well in the Pacific theatre. It must have been hard on him. Shame he was used in as a pawn and risked risked his life for people that saw him as cannon fodder and nothing else.

Holy ****, I can't believe this thread...

McKay you may be the toughest mother****er on this site I will be open to that fact but people who talk real tough via a keyboard sound flat out stupid. If you are tough and you have been knifed up and you have taken shots from guys 200+ that is great...let some guy who is trying to **** your girl in a bar find out first hand how tough you are...not some retard like Whitman over the internet...

Whitman don't take any offense to me calling you retarded that is just what I have heard...you see I am a follower and tend to repeat things that others say...Whitman you are a retard! (remember that I did not say that)

McKay, take my advice just because you are a world beater does not mean you have to advertise it.

Let me ask either two of you this. Did you play high school football?

Tucker has been reading some second and first world war books lately. I have read about some really bad stuff. It appears to be true what they say........WAR IS HELL! I would not want to be in any war myself for any reason. War is suffering.
Later brother brologs.

I played High school football except for senior year. We were a really good team to. But we all became screwups and all the goodplayers dropped off the team.

Let me ask either two of you this. Did you play high school football?


Great question that I look forward to hearing the answer too!

The majority of kids who dont play football in high school are *****s...and I dont want to hear bull**** like I was too ****ing small, it is high school, small guys can dominate in high school it is not college.

I played High school football except for senior year. We were a really good team to. But we all became screwups and all the goodplayers dropped off the team.

Then I know you arent that much of a *****. I had Koy and Ty Detmer's dad as a coach. I played for the Mission Eagles.

Tucker has been reading some second and first world war books lately. I have read about some really bad stuff. It appears to be true what they say........WAR IS HELL! I would not want to be in any war myself for any reason. War is suffering.
Later brother brologs.


Tucker whats up my boy..Congrats on your boy Michael Campbell winning the United States Open...quite an accomplishment!

Then I know you arent that much of a *****. I had Koy and Ty Detmer's dad as a coach. I played for the Mission Eagles.


I always thought Koy was going to make a good pro...coming out of Colorado I was high on him especially after he torched my Huskies in the Holiday Bowl.

Boy I was wrong.

I always thought Koy was going to make a good pro...coming out of Colorado I was high on him especially after he torched my Huskies in the Holiday Bowl.

Boy I was wrong.

yeah. he is nothing special. He was on the varsity team when I was on JV. I never practiced with him much, because we played diff teams on offense and defense. Ty graduated 6 or 7 years ahead of me, I played on saturdays and he played on fridays.

That guy was super ****ing popular at school though. I only played 9th grade, and part of 10th, then I got locked up.

I played Safety, Def End, Line, Backer, Punter, Kicker, and Corner.

Tucker whats up my boy..Congrats on your boy Michael Campbell winning the United States Open...quite an accomplishment!We needed it because the All Blacks ain't what they used to be and we lost the Americas Cup in a fiasco! That America's Cup thing was a complete embarrasment. :o
Later brother brologs.

Tucker has been reading some second and first world war books lately. I have read about some really bad stuff. It appears to be true what they say........WAR IS HELL! I would not want to be in any war myself for any reason. War is suffering.
Later brother brologs.

What books have you been reading? I could recommend a few good WW1 books. I'm obessed with that war, it was the most brutal **** ever.

Tuckers war books that he has read are "The Third Reich At War", "1918 The Year Of Victories", and I am currently reading Steel Fist Tank Warfare 1939-45". I also have another world war1 book in my possion that I have yet to read. Worldwar1 when they were attacking those trenches and getting annialated by machine gun fire was like commiting suicide....no it was worse than suicide because if you shot yourself in the head you would be dead instantly and not feel the pain.
Later brother brologs.

i havent even read page 2 of this thread, and im not going to....but i can only wonder what kind of ****tards would keep bumping this(ok im a ****tard for bumping it this time) ****hill to reach 83 replies and 1000+ views.

this has come pretty far, o friends and brothers..

mckays occult conspiracy theorys, and torinos discowery channel like assuredness in the validity of his worldview..

you are brave ****ers,

still you have to respect the man..

i never drink alcohol, and mckay - bragging about having to drink to beat somebodys ass - is that a little weak..?

may the light of decency strenghten you all.

lets get mckay and wittmans stats and record

Tuckers war books that he has read are "The Third Reich At War", "1918 The Year Of Victories", and I am currently reading Steel Fist Tank Warfare 1939-45". I also have another world war1 book in my possion that I have yet to read. Worldwar1 when they were attacking those trenches and getting annialated by machine gun fire was like commiting suicide....no it was worse than suicide because if you shot yourself in the head you would be dead instantly and not feel the pain.
Later brother brologs.

You want a good book about trench warfare you should read "The Face of Battle" by John Keegan. It's not specificalyl about WW1 but a big chunk of it talks about the battle of the Somme. Like you said, trench warfare was like voluntary mass suicide. Messed up.

"The First World War" by Keegan is a good overall summary of the war, as well.

all quiet on the western front - by the ***it maria remarque, has some good parts..

the good books about wwi are german.

ill get back when i remember the authors names..

Silly, silly people... McKay and Michael Wittman are one and the same...

He was funny, to be fair. Good to have a bit of humour on the site.

too bad ring death wasnt an option.

http://ebaumsworld.com/2006/08/angry-german-kid-vs-numa-numa.html