What do u think was tha biggest robbery in boxing history?
I am still a teen so i never watched boxin in tha old days
but i wanna know what u people think

Was it Dempsey - Tunney II
or hagler-leonard
or trinidad-dlh
sturm-dlh
augustus-burton
marques-pacquiao

I think Lennox vs Evander was pretty bad!

I think Lennox vs Evander was pretty bad!
1st one or second one

1st one. I thought the second could have been a draw, it was close but not a robbery.

I think it is funny that we are talking about the greatest robbery in Boxing history, and we cant decide if it was Dempsey Tunney beack in the 50s or Augustus Burton.

In any sport that has to be judged, there is room for judgement error and corruption, so you get these decisions that are crappy, but they are what they are.

By the way, the biggest robbery was Nancy Kerrigan / Oksana Baiul in the 1994 olympics in figure skating. But I digress.

i think dlh vs trindad was one of the biggest robberys

I think it is funny that we are talking about the greatest robbery in Boxing history, and we cant decide if it was Dempsey Tunney beack in the 50s or Augustus Burton.

In any sport that has to be judged, there is room for judgement error and corruption, so you get these decisions that are crappy, but they are what they are.

By the way, the biggest robbery was Nancy Kerrigan / Oksana Baiul in the 1994 olympics in figure skating. But I digress.


does this look like a figure skating thread to u.....

but dlh-trinidad definately big robbery

One of the biggest robberies might have taken place in the Olympic Boxing Finals of 1988 as RJJ clearly won the bout.

MMH vs. SRL just hurts till this very day. Same with Sturm vs. DLH.

And Dempsey was part of some strange fights as well. The infamous long count and the bout where he was knocked outa the ring by Firpo and the ref didnt started counting before he was pushed back in by some reporters.

The biggest robbery might've been not to allow a black man to hold the HW title in the late 18th century until Johnson.

Either that or not giving Sam Langford a serious title shot throughout all those years.

What do u think was tha biggest robbery in boxing history?
I am still a teen so i never watched boxin in tha old days
but i wanna know what u people think

Was it Dempsey - Tunney II
or hagler-leonard
or trinidad-dlh
sturm-dlh
augustus-burton
marques-pacquiao



Finally somebody got to ask this? Would there be any worst robbery in boxing history than when a judge and the ref both commited blunders to deny the rightful winner the victory with two belts and titles at stake? :D

Would you honestly believe that at the Pac/JMM fight . . . a judge can misscore a round and the ref didn't deduct a point after so many low blow warnings? Until now I'm still shock that the boxing bodies and boxing commision involve didn't lift a finger to correct that result and infact denied the protest from
team Pac for "lack of merit". :D :p

The degree of worseness depends on what is at stake in the fight . . . I believe.

I say in recent history it would be
Sturm-hoya
Pacman-JMM
Espinosa-Sotto

Sven Ottke - Robin Reid (in recent memory)

Sven Ottke - Robin Reid (in recent memory)

I'll second that, that was the worst ive ever seen!!

The ref was warning Reid for punching Ottke!! Maybe someone should tell Sven that boxing is a contact sport!!

I'll second that, that was the worst ive ever seen!!

The ref was warning Reid for punching Ottke!! Maybe someone should tell Sven that boxing is a contact sport!!

Thanks for the support on this topic.

Someone should tell the the referee that boxing is a contact sport. I hope he doesn't officiate anytime soon.

There are to many robberies in boxing to even point at just one. its really sad.

I saw some amatuer boxing matches when I use to box back in the late 80's that were so bad they were comical. I remember seeing some kid get knocked down four times in a fight and win. But i'm sure that goes on in alot of small town venues. On the big scale i'd have to say Hagler-Leanord was a disapointment.

The biggest robbery might've been not to allow a black man to hold the HW title in the late 18th century until Johnson.

Either that or not giving Sam Langford a serious title shot throughout all those years.

They say Peter Jackson was the most talented heavyweight around in the late 1800's, but both Sullivan and Corbett refused to defend their titles against him.

When Jackson challenged him for the title, Sullivan said he'd never fight a black man, even though he had fought at least one in the past and had challenged other black men when he was in his younger days (George Godfrey, for example).

And when Jackson tried to get a rematch with James Corbett after he had won the title, Corbett refused to fight him anywhere but in the southern United States, where Jackson was sure to get unfair treatment. Jackson was having none of that!

Apparently Sam Langford came very close to getting a middleweight title shot against Stanley Ketchel, and would've had Ketchel not been shot and killed shortly after the two fought a six round 'exhibition' fight (which was to showcase a later title fight between the two).

To stay on topic, the worst robbery in a fight could've been when Fighting Harada was in there against Johnny Famechon. Famechon won maybe two rounds in that whole fight, but Willie Pep judged him to be the winner after the fifteen rounds were completed (best example of the saying, "hometown decision"). Because of that robbery, Fighting Harada lost his chance to be the first fighter to ever win world titles in the flyweight, bantamweight, and featherweight divisions.

90 percent of the people in here are not talking about true robberies. pacquaio gets D because one round was scored incorrectly, that is not a robbery. neither was srl vs hagler, leonard easily won the first 4 rounds imo and at worst ended up with a draw, i cannot see how hagler was in any way robbed. strum/de la hoya or delhoya/trinidad either. a true robbery imo is something like lewis vs holyfield I.

I say in recent history it would be
Sturm-hoya
Pacman-JMM
Espinosa-Sotto

I think the worst dec. was the one with burton and augustus i watched that fight i was :mad: pissed :mad:

Sven Ottke - Robin Reid (in recent memory)

Perhaps not the worst in boxing history but definatly a semi recent one. Although even though i thought Reid had the fight in the bag he didn't put enough pressure on in the last few rounds and anyone who knows anything about the bent judges in Germany they know that you have to fight your heart out to beat Sven on points. You need a miracle.

although I am a huge fan of both Hagler and Leonard....I have to say in my humble opinion Hagler won that fight by 2 points thats how I had it scored. Hagler landed the more solid shots and was the agressor even had Sugar Ray dazed in round 9. Sugar Rays blows were more glancing and he ran alot of the fight. It was a close one ,,,could have even been called a draw. some of the judges scoring was ridiculous one had sugar winning by 8 points!!!??? anyway thats my thoughts.

Roy Jones in the olympics
Lewis Vs. Holyfield

Though I have not seen the fight.....those who witnessed it say that TYRONE EVERETT-ALFREDO ESCALERA is the worst decision in boxing history.

Everett won at least 10 of the 15 rds....& really clowned & battered Escalera. Only to get jobbed.

You all should Google their names...see if you find anything.

First fight Louis-Walcott. Very controvercial.

Hearns /Leonard
Whitaker/Chavez

This has been done before

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4986 (http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4986&highlight=screwjob)

The biggest robbery was probably Tyson vs Williams. Can you believe I payed money to see that ****? Same anyone who payed for Vitali vs Williams.

What do u think was tha biggest robbery in boxing history?
I am still a teen so i never watched boxin in tha old days
but i wanna know what u people think

Was it Dempsey - Tunney II
or hagler-leonard
or trinidad-dlh
sturm-dlh
augustus-burton
marques-pacquiao
How is Tito vs. DLH, and Hagler vs. Leonard both a robbery? Makes no sense.

for me it would have to be james toney v. dave tiberi

Interesting to see what you guys believe constitutes a "robbery"....De La Hoya vs. Tito was a close fight which I had Oscar winning by 2 rounds, easily there is room for conflict being so that the fight was a Majority Decision for Tito, bottom line a close fight is not a robbery....As for Leonard vs. Hagler, I had Leonard winning by 1 round and that fight too was a split decision so if I can find 6 or 7 rounds to give to Leonard i'm sure another human being who judges for a profession can do the same......Robbery is Jones vs. Si-Hun (amateurs) and how about Ricardo Williams vs. Abdullaev in the gold medal bout in 2000, maybe 10-15 punches weren't even counted for Williams Jr., professional robbery was Sturm vs. De La Hoya in which Sturm could have won 9 rounds in anybody's view, also in my opinion I believe that Whitaker vs. De La Hoya was highway robbery but that was aided by the dumbest WBC rule in the history of sports rule where the fighter who is uncut after an accidental headbutt gets a point taken away.

i agree with some of you that a close fight is not "robbery"....someone is always going to see something opposite of what you see....no one agrees in boxing...just face it

Medlrick Taylor vs. Julio Cesar Chavez 1

Ike Quartey VS any big fight! lol

Ike Quartey VS any big fight! lol
It's true. Judges love to rob the soft-spoken african guy.

Medlrick Taylor vs. Julio Cesar Chavez 1

now that was the worst robbery in boxing history

Hearns /Leonard
Whitaker/ChavezAbout Whitaker-Chavez:

"There was a general let down; Julio did not live up to expectations. He was supposed to lose three or four rounds and then wipe the guy out. In Mexico, seven out of ten newspapers agreed that Whitaker was robbed, and maybe eight of ten people believe Whitaker won." --Fernando Paramo of the Los Angeles-based La Opinion, quoted in an article written by Steve Farhood, The Ring, January 1994.

The Ring scored the fight: 117-111, Whitaker, giving Whitaker rounds 2 to 8, as well as the 10th and 11th.

It's true. Judges love to rob the soft-spoken african guy.

They like robbing the fast talking cuban Joel Casamayor as well

wenever Lamotta lost against Robinson it was a robbery, ****in guy would knock robinson down numerous times and lamotta would never feel the canvas but would still lose :@:@:@:@

Finally somebody got to ask this? Would there be any worst robbery in boxing history than when a judge and the ref both commited blunders to deny the rightful winner the victory with two belts and titles at stake? :D

Would you honestly believe that at the Pac/JMM fight . . . a judge can misscore a round and the ref didn't deduct a point after so many low blow warnings? Until now I'm still shock that the boxing bodies and boxing commision involve didn't lift a finger to correct that result and infact denied the protest from
team Pac for "lack of merit". :D :p

The degree of worseness depends on what is at stake in the fight . . . I believe.

Watch out for the idiot dude
:p

onyok velasco not winning the gold medal in atlanta olympics!

About Whitaker-Chavez:

"There was a general let down; Julio did not live up to expectations. He was supposed to lose three or four rounds and then wipe the guy out. In Mexico, seven out of ten newspapers agreed that Whitaker was robbed, and maybe eight of ten people believe Whitaker won." --Fernando Paramo of the Los Angeles-based La Opinion, quoted in an article written by Steve Farhood, The Ring, January 1994.

The Ring scored the fight: 117-111, Whitaker, giving Whitaker rounds 2 to 8, as well as the 10th and 11th.

Worse robbery in the modern boxing. Whitaker science was sweet. The robbery left a bitter taste to the sweet science.

Worse robbery in the modern boxing. Whitaker science was sweet. The robbery left a bitter taste to the sweet science.Yeah, one of the really bad ones, pal.

Most observers believe judges Mickey Vann and Franz Marti were the culprit. They both scored it even, 115-115. The third judge, Jack Woodruff, had it for Whitaker, 115-113.

Vann was quoted by London's Daily Star after the fight as having said, "I deducted one point from Whitaker for an appalingly low blow in the sixth round. The referee [Joe Cortez] did not issue a formal penalty, but I took the point from him anyway."

He apparently forgot the limits of the powers of boxing judges.

He later denied having said anything about deducting the point. The official scorecards show that it was only Vann who scored the 6th 10-9 for Chavez. The two others had it 10-9 for Whitaker.

Ben Rabah vs Urango

How is Tito vs. DLH, and Hagler vs. Leonard both a robbery? Makes no sense.

bc DLH schooled him. beat that crap out of him. made him look so bad. he out boxed tito in everyway possible. thats how its a robbery. also the RJJ in 88. how does roy win all 3 rounds and even beat the dude so bad the ref gave him a standing 8 count and roy still loses. beyond me. lewis holy 1 that was a robbery as much as i like holy lewis tore him up. DLH mosley 2 was a huge robbery. how they gave that fight to shane was beyond me. ruiz over golota. ruiz was down twice in the fight and really didnt win any rounds but still somehow some way won that fight. not a notible robbery but come on everyone wanted ruiz out of the HW pic bc he has to be the most boring fighter ever so thats a robbery bc that kept him around.