Never mind who won, who was actually hurt the most in the fight? While I like Glen, I wanted Tarver to win because I had money - both real and virtual - riding on him.

Yet the only time when I thought one of them looked seriously hurt was Tarver in the eleventh. Agree?



Also, I get the feeling that this is one of the lesser-appreciated fights of the year. Take recent times: Hatton-Zoo and Tyson-McBride had two or three pages full of threads. Granted, most of them were saying the same things and got merged, but the interest was there. With Tarver-Johnson it isn't.

Was it the quality of the fight, or the fighters themselves? I seem to remember the last time they fought they didn't exactly crash Boxing Scene's server, either.

Tarver look like he had nothing left after the 11th round. If that round went longer Tarver was in trouble...

They had to hold Tarver up in the corner, I thought it was much closer than what the judges had it. I mean Tarver was throwing a lot of shots but alot of them were landing on the glove and werent really effecting Johnson at all. But whatever he was the busier fighter and that got him the nod. I was pulling for Johnson but Tarver won convincingly. I just hope Tarver gives him the rematch, as that is the only lucrative fight out there for Tarver.

Never mind who won, who was actually hurt the most in the fight? While I like Glen, I wanted Tarver to win because I had money - both real and virtual - riding on him.

Yet the only time when I thought one of them looked seriously hurt was Tarver in the eleventh. Agree?



Also, I get the feeling that this is one of the lesser-appreciated fights of the year. Take recent times: Hatton-Zoo and Tyson-McBride had two or three pages full of threads. Granted, most of them were saying the same things and got merged, but the interest was there. With Tarver-Johnson it isn't.

Was it the quality of the fight, or the fighters themselves? I seem to remember the last time they fought they didn't exactly crash Boxing Scene's server, either.
I only saw Tarver hurt in the fight as you said and hte lack of heat stems from the fact that while sentiment ususally supports him, Glencoffe is a C+ fighter and always has been. Tarver is more polished but is not exciting either. He usually fights to the level of his opposition. B fighter.

Who cares about their fights since there's no dazzling speed, awesome power or frankly excitement about whether they live or die?

They both were fortunate enough to happen along when Roy was ripe for pickin ... and they picked him off.

Neither will be remembered a year or two from now for their careers.

Tarver was almost gone in round 11. A few more seconds he would have been down. That is why he fought in such a lackluster fashion in the 12th he was still hurt from the previous round and so he held on. If Johnson was a little bit more tenacious at the beginning of round 12 he might have put Tarver on the Canvas.

dont matta to me now. Tarver was good that night.

Tarver was the most hurt definitely. Anyone wit eyes could see that!





side note: Tarver was copyin Pac's style by throwin those many type of punches. LOL.

Tarver was almost gone in round 11. A few more seconds he would have been down. That is why he fought in such a lackluster fashion in the 12th he was still hurt from the previous round and so he held on. If Johnson was a little bit more tenacious at the beginning of round 12 he might have put Tarver on the Canvas.


Did Tarver even throw a punch in the 12th round? Seriously I could have sworn all Tarver was doing was leaning over from exhaustion and holding onto Johnson. I was a bit surprised the ref didnt take a point away.

Tarver faded down the stretch, it is unfortunate Johnson cant fight on the outside because in that 11th round if he fought from the outside he probably would have put Tarver down to score a 10-8 round.

I actually think Johnson was more hurt during the fight. All he knows is to come forward but that doesn't mean that he wasn't hurt. There was several big shots that Tarver landed that stopped Johnson's forward progress and some of his facial expressions showed that punches were getting to him.

I actually think Johnson was more hurt during the fight. All he knows is to come forward but that doesn't mean that he wasn't hurt. There was several big shots that Tarver landed that stopped Johnson's forward progress and some of his facial expressions showed that punches were getting to him.
Awww, you must mean when he was hit in his face and his eyes and mouth curled up into a grimace ... sorta like a bloodhound?



He always looks like that.

I only saw Tarver hurt in the fight as you said and hte lack of heat stems from the fact that while sentiment ususally supports him, Glencoffe is a C+ fighter and always has been. Tarver is more polished but is not exciting either. He usually fights to the level of his opposition. B fighter.

Who cares about their fights since there's no dazzling speed, awesome power or frankly excitement about whether they live or die?

They both were fortunate enough to happen along when Roy was ripe for pickin ... and they picked him off.

Neither will be remembered a year or two from now for their careers.
i'm afraid you may be correct.

Did Tarver even throw a punch in the 12th round? Seriously I could have sworn all Tarver was doing was leaning over from exhaustion and holding onto Johnson. I was a bit surprised the ref didnt take a point away.

Tarver faded down the stretch, it is unfortunate Johnson cant fight on the outside because in that 11th round if he fought from the outside he probably would have put Tarver down to score a 10-8 round.
I agree, i don't see how ANYONE could have scored the 12th for Tarver.

I only saw Tarver hurt in the fight as you said and hte lack of heat stems from the fact that while sentiment ususally supports him, Glencoffe is a C+ fighter and always has been. Tarver is more polished but is not exciting either. He usually fights to the level of his opposition. B fighter.

Who cares about their fights since there's no dazzling speed, awesome power or frankly excitement about whether they live or die?

They both were fortunate enough to happen along when Roy was ripe for pickin ... and they picked him off.

Neither will be remembered a year or two from now for their careers.


JOHNSON has been on the tough end of some bad decisions. His record may indicate that he is a C class fighter but in reality he is a B class fighter AT THE LEAST. In this division he can beat anyone dont know if that makes him a A class fighter or not but hes good

Did Tarver even throw a punch in the 12th round? Seriously I could have sworn all Tarver was doing was leaning over from exhaustion and holding onto Johnson. I was a bit surprised the ref didnt take a point away.

Tarver faded down the stretch, it is unfortunate Johnson cant fight on the outside because in that 11th round if he fought from the outside he probably would have put Tarver down to score a 10-8 round.

Tarver threw more and landed more punches in the 12th then Johnson did. Tarver was throwing combinations and then clinched before Johnson could get off with his punches. Johnson himself intiated some of the clinches towards the end of the 12th as well. They were both exhausted but I think Johnson had a little bit left but just couldn't get off in the 12th.

Tarver threw more and landed more punches in the 12th then Johnson did. Tarver was throwing combinations and then clinched before Johnson could get off with his punches. Johnson himself intiated some of the clinches towards the end of the 12th as well. They were both exhausted but I think Johnson had a little bit left but just couldn't get off in the 12th.
i agree, Tarver was the only one landing punches in rd 12, they were quick counter-lefts followed by clinching (somewhat of a southpaw Ruiz-style round) but it was definitely enough to win the 12th hands-down....and FINALLY I was somewhat accurate on one of my predictions! Tarver by UD!!!

tarver looked liek he wanted to keel over and die with them body shots, in my book glen needed that 12th round for a tie and a KD which was close woulda won him the fight, i can kinda see it 116-112 for tarver but i thoguht the fight was much closer to me cause glen made a big comeback

Tarver was more exhausted than Johnson but I wouldn't say Tarver was hurt more. He did get wobbled in the 11th but as a whole, Johnson's face was a little more swollen after the fight. I don't think either was more hurt than the other physically. However, Johnson was definately more frustrated his night didn't go according to plan. Tarver did a fabulous job of ducking punches in this fight and that definately affected Johnson's confidence in the fight. The man never quit though. Johnson kept coming and probably is in the best physical condition of just about any boxer out there. He was gracious and humble in defeat as well. I wish there were more Glen Johnson's in the sport of boxing.

Wasn't a great fight but Tarver fought it smart but safe. Tarver wanted to make the fight somewhat exciting so he finally started throwing real punches in the 11th and got winded. Wow, he threw 3 combos at full strength and got winded at the 2:00 mark in the 11th. He ended up get hurt that round and held thru out the 12th. Very impressive... That's where our Light Heavy crown rest on.

Tarver's punchs were so weak, pitty pat I didn't know why Johnson didn't eat them with his face like in the first fight. Johnson took way more punishment in the first fight, this was a walk in the park. Johnson's gloves were way to big they couldn't land anything significant on the haed as well. Johnson should've worked harder but his style and skills are so limited. Tarver kept off the ropes and circled around Johnson's simple style. Johnson should've grabbed Tarver and corner him or fight in the clinch. He never clinched much till the 12th and was gassed.

12th round was a tie because no one was fighting, they were dancing with each other. The ref wanted in but never got to dance, too bad. :p Tarver gets the slight nod because it's strategic but I would never give a point for anyone for that 12th round.

BTW I think one judge had it 115-112. I had it at that due to the tie in the 12th. Not a close fight at all. Tarver was in control of the pace and tempo of the fight. He worked more, thru more punches, threw combos, and displayed more skill.

Watch out for Julio Gonzalez who seems to be our next champ if Tarver fights him in the near future.

Yeah, it was nice of Johnson to admit that this was a legitimate loss. I saw an interview in Boxing News where he went through his eleven losses/draws. He said that two "could have gone either way" but that only Bernard Hopkins truly defeated him. It looks like Tarver has been added to that number now.

I only saw Tarver hurt in the fight as you said and hte lack of heat stems from the fact that while sentiment ususally supports him, Glencoffe is a C+ fighter and always has been. Tarver is more polished but is not exciting either. He usually fights to the level of his opposition. B fighter.

Who cares about their fights since there's no dazzling speed, awesome power or frankly excitement about whether they live or die?

They both were fortunate enough to happen along when Roy was ripe for pickin ... and they picked him off.

Neither will be remembered a year or two from now for their careers.

I agree, although I must say I was impressed with Johnson's comments after the fight.

I think Johnson knocks Tarver out in the third fight.

Tarver was getting banged up in the 11th round.

The fight was never in question in my opinion, Tarver was definitely hurt in the 11th but he was also dead tired. It's sad that the only fight out there for either one of these guys is each other. Now can someone please understand that this division has been soft since the early 90's. Even though I do think RJJ is the best fighter of my generation, he got fat off of beating alot of **** fighters for several years.

They had to hold Tarver up in the corner, I thought it was much closer than what the judges had it. I mean Tarver was throwing a lot of shots but alot of them were landing on the glove and werent really effecting Johnson at all. But whatever he was the busier fighter and that got him the nod. I was pulling for Johnson but Tarver won convincingly. I just hope Tarver gives him the rematch, as that is the only lucrative fight out there for Tarver.

and Spinks deserved to beat Mayorga too, right? loser