Here's two that are always brought up to put down English fighters...


Danny Williams vs. Michael Sprott III. Sprott could hardly see by the final two rounds and barely threw a punch. Danny was so in control that he was showboating, which angered the ref (the only judge in British bouts) - even Sprott knew he hadn't really won.

Howard Eastman vs. William Joppy. Howard let Joppy smack him on the jaw for kicks, dropped him in the last round and mocked Joppy to the crowd for running. Eastman believed he was robbed for the points decision going against him, and the boos of the crowd seemed to agree.



Other recent notables?:

Roy Jones Jr. vs. Antonio Tarver. Personally, while Roy was clearly losing the fight, Tarver's low work rate allowed Roy to steal it on points.

Eastman isn't worthy of fighting Hopkins. He just aint good enough to win...no matter how you want to interpret the Eastman vs. Joppy fight.

He has earned his chance though. 40 - 1 (36 ) is a good record and he has cleaned up the British and Europeon middleweight scene.

Emanuel Agustus-Courtney Bourton, that was just wrong.

Of course he is. Not saying for a minute he is in Hopkins class but he deserves the oppotunity as much as most others (certainly more than say De La Hoya who I love).

Emanuel Agustus-Courtney Bourton, that was just wrong.
i absolutley agree with this man. i saw that i was so pissed because i defend boxing so much and 4 a decision like to happen just screams out fix!!!

Hate to keep bringing it up like this, But this thread pertains to it.

Andrew Golota vs John Ruiz, everyone in Madison Square Garden knew, people at home knew, the judges knew, hell, even Ruiz knew he lost the fight. Golota had Ruiz beaten so bad, that eventually, the only shots Ruiz could get in were after the bell. It was a shock to everyone that Don King yet again pulled out a victory for Ruiz.

Manny Pacquiao vs. Juan Marquez

Manny clearly won by decision.

Emanuel Agustus-Courtney Bourton, that was just wrong.

I think Agustus won too, but the robbery cry has been overrated. Agustus plays around way too damn much. At times, it was difficult to tell when he was even winning. He threw punches in spirts then danced the rest of the time, while Bourton kept coming forward.

Mickey Ward vs. Jesse James Leija. Mickey lands a nice left hook opening a cut on Leija that stops the fight. Lawrence Cole, THE WORST REFEREE IN THE GAME OF BOXING, calls it a butt. ( he later said that he called it a butt not because he saw the butt, but because he "didn't see the punch") They go to the scorecards, and Ward loses. Instead of a TKO win, he gets a technical decision loss.

Sven Ottie Vs Robin Reid. This was in my opinion the worst verdict Sven, and he got allot. Reid dominated him and lost on points by a mile!

It's Sven Ottke Kimmy.

My picks'd be: Marvelous Marvin Hagler vs. Sugar Ray Leonard (nuff said)
and Felix Sturm vs. DLH (I'm still pissed)

jones dq against montell griffin. anny dq loser for that matter

Mickey Ward vs. Jesse James Leija. Mickey lands a nice left hook opening a cut on Leija that stops the fight. Lawrence Cole, THE WORST REFEREE IN THE GAME OF BOXING, calls it a butt. ( he later said that he called it a butt not because he saw the butt, but because he "didn't see the punch") They go to the scorecards, and Ward loses. Instead of a TKO win, he gets a technical decision loss.

Diversing a little here, I remember that Cole was the same ref that officiated Luisito Espinosa vs Cobrita Gonzales in Guadalajara. Cobrita was downed by a punch but Cole called it a slip. Cobrita headbutted Espinosa opening a cut and he called it accidental headbutt. Espinosa was so pissed off that Cobrita was carried out of the ring in a strecher after being TKO'd. COLE SUCKS!

dlh/sturm
SRL/halger
the agustus fight of course
even thoi hate to admit it, lewis/holy 1
i thought golata did enough to win against ruiz

but most of all i agree with that ward/lieja fight (but this one dont matter much since ward will be rememebered for years to come and lieja wont)

I call this a robbery, because it was plain to see who won, but he had to settle for a draw...Chavez vs. Whitaker.

if i remember correctly the cut in the Leija and Ward fight was caused by a but

even if the ref didn't see it

on a replay they showed it and i clearly remember it being a butt that causes the tear.

Manny Pacquiao vs. Juan Marquez

Manny clearly won by decision.
no he didn't.

Jirov/Mesi though Mesi clearly won by points who won in your eyes? Not contraversial, but still, a beat down like that and still pulling off a win seems to me worth mentioning.

I'd pick DLH vs Trinidad.

The fact that Leanord was given a draw against Hearns in their long awaited rematch is the biggest joke i ever saw.

The fact that Leanord was given a draw against Hearns in their long awaited rematch is the biggest joke i ever saw.

I've never been a big fan of Leonard's, but I do give him some credit for what he said about that fight on 'Beyond the Glory'. On that show he admiited Tommy beat him in their second fight and as far he was concerned, "they were 1 and 1".

He gets a little bit of respect from me for saying something like that, especially when most fighters would NEVER admit they were defeated when the judges didn't see it that way.

I have to say that Leonard Hearns II was one of the biggest robberies I have seen since the Great Train Robbery. If Hearns had done what he did to Leonard outside of the ring he would still be serving time now. But yet again.... A big fight... A draw. I think many people are now begining to feel that any big fight that goes the distance is going to be a draw or a robbery so that the promoters can sell the re match.

Here's two that are always brought up to put down English fighters...


Danny Williams vs. Michael Sprott III. Sprott could hardly see by the final two rounds and barely threw a punch. Danny was so in control that he was showboating, which angered the ref (the only judge in British bouts) - even Sprott knew he hadn't really won.

Howard Eastman vs. William Joppy. Howard let Joppy smack him on the jaw for kicks, dropped him in the last round and mocked Joppy to the crowd for running. Eastman believed he was robbed for the points decision going against him, and the boos of the crowd seemed to agree.



Other recent notables?:

Roy Jones Jr. vs. Antonio Tarver. Personally, while Roy was clearly losing the fight, Tarver's low work rate allowed Roy to steal it on points.

hey idiot...roy beat tarver the first fight easily...roy hits tarver 10 times..tarver lands 1 big punches and the idiots in the audience went crazy..like how u probably were at home

I dont wont to open this old newer going enywhere discussion, but LL-Vk, i was sad for days......

Oh, yeah Golota got robbed, poor guy.

Leanord-Hearns II was ten times the robbery that Leonard-Hagler was. The Hagler-Leanord fight was close.....Hearns beat his ass.

I still don't understand why some people are still so upset about very close matches such as Sturm/DLH and DLH-Trinidad......very very close matches that could've gone either way.

no he didnt

Jirov/Mesi though Mesi clearly won by points who won in your eyes? Not contraversial, but still, a beat down like that and still pulling off a win seems to me worth mentioning.

nah u just dont seem to understand how points work
u can say ya do but u obviously dont
built good enough early lead

i mean look at you in this post
becuz mesi took got dropped couple times and took a pretty bad beating for 1 or 2 rds he HAD to have lost the fight

yet your defending how JMM didnt lose to pac who got droppeed couple times and took a pretty bad beatin for 1 or 2rds

mesi won on points
jmm should have won on points
but the draw was understandable as well

the first barrera/morales fight was a robbery, not so much corrupt but incompetent scoring that gave morales the fight. mab won clearly.(that said morales did win the second fight)

nah u just dont seem to understand how points work
u can say ya do but u obviously dont
built good enough early lead

i mean look at you in this post
becuz mesi took got dropped couple times and took a pretty bad beating for 1 or 2 rds he HAD to have lost the fight

yet your defending how JMM didnt lose to pac who got droppeed couple times and took a pretty bad beatin for 1 or 2rds

mesi won on points
jmm should have won on points
but the draw was understandable as well
did you read the part that said mesi clearly won on points? but more importantly you went from manny clearly won to marquez should have won on points. now who's the one that doesn't seem to understand?

did you read the part that said mesi clearly won on points? but more importantly you went from manny clearly won to marquez should have won on points. now who's the one that doesn't seem to understand?
you
i built an early lead with my long post
and now got kd
but i still won
so u dont understand
lol

hey idiot...roy beat tarver the first fight easily...roy hits tarver 10 times..tarver lands 1 big punches and the idiots in the audience went crazy..like how u probably were at home

Not really. Tarver landed more punches in the fight, but had a smaller percentage than Jones. Jones seemed dissinterested in fighting that day, allowing himself to get hit on the ropes. RJJ a few years back would have toyed with Tarver, though.

Not really. Tarver landed more punches in the fight, but had a smaller percentage than Jones. Jones seemed dissinterested in fighting that day, allowing himself to get hit on the ropes. RJJ a few years back would have toyed with Tarver, though.
actually roy showed he wanted it
when he rallied back in the last rounds

Stupid, Very Stupid

Sven Ottie Vs Robin Reid. This was in my opinion the worst verdict Sven, and he got allot. Reid dominated him and lost on points by a mile!Yes, definitely. I'd forgotten about that.


Aquitted: hey idiot...roy beat tarver the first fight easily...roy hits tarver 10 times..tarver lands 1 big punches and the idiots in the audience went crazy..like how u probably were at homeHave you and I spoken before? Do you know me well? No? WELL DON'T CALL ME NAMES THEN!

Bad karma, anyone?

vitali vs. lennox

Pacquiao vs. Marquez (error on judges card)
De La Hoya vs. Quartey- Oscar lost that fight & he knew he got a gift in that one.

Foreman v Briggs. Foreman clearly did enough to gain a victory.
Shultz v Foreman. Makes me sick to be this honest.
Sturm v DelaHoya. I thought he'd won the fight.
Holmes v Spinks 2. Larry won