Last night's fight between Taylor and Joppy answered a few questions. Is Taylor legit? Yes. Is Joppy shot? Probably, at least it's clear that he will never have a belt again. But I think you all have to agree that Trinidad is the most devastating puncher in the division, hands down. I'll tell you why. Well, let the facts tell you and you decide.

May 2001, Trinidad-Joppy
Joppy was known to have a very good chin and was actually undefeated( if you forget about the questionable loss he had against JC Green). Trinidad dropped him 3 times including one in the first round. Trinidad wins by TKO in 5 rounds.

November 2001, Joppy-Eastman
Eastman is able to drop Joppy only once in the last round. Joppy wins on points.

December 2003, Hopkins-Joppy
Hopkins faces a Joppy who is clearly not the same he was when he faced Trinidad. Yet, Joppy goes the distance and was never dropped.

November 2004, Taylor-Joppy
This is a Joppy who had not fought in almost a year. Taylor, a talented prospect, is getting Joppy three and a half years after Trinidad destroyed him. Yet, he only dropped him once and Joppy made the distance although he won only one round, in my opinion.

Result: Only Trinidad can brag because he is the only one to stop William Joppy in a career that includes almost 40 fights and covers more than 10 years.

No replies, interesting. If this was another Klitschko or Tyson thread, there would be about 50 replies.

Result: Only Trinidad can brag because he is the only one to stop William Joppy in a career that includes almost 40 fights and covers more than 10 years.

I'd say the result was only Hopkins can brag as he handed Tito's ass to him.

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trinidad has done it in 3 divisions tszyu only one.

trinidad might be the hardest puncher at middleweight.

I will say Tito is def. the hardest puncher in the middleweight division, But as far as p4p I think Kostya's right is as solid as anyone else in boxing.

Its well known im not a Tito fan, but one thing I will never question about him is his punching power. He hits as hard as anyone I have ever seen.

tito and KT

...tito aint pound 4 pound nothing...he got his ass handed by hopkins

(and even thought i hate to say it, by DLH also-dlh ***** ass ran, so we'll never know what could have happened)

KT as alwyas been here and didnt pull none of that retirement SH*T! to try to get more money or for whatever reason..so i repect KT more then tito...but i think tito has the best power at MW now...not hardest hitter in general p4p tho

Delahoya didn't come close to handing Tito his ass. I'd say Tito, Kostya Tszyu and R. Marquez are the top three punchers in no particular order.

dlh was out classing him though for pretty much most of that fight

R.Marquez.oh Sh*t..true i forgot about him...KT and r.marquez are above tito in m eye's p4p best hitter

I can agree Delahoya won the majority of the rounds but I disagree with Marquez hitting harder than Tito p4p.

I think tito has the hardest left hook in any division

oh hell yeah...that i agree with..the left hook of tito..damn i mean he's right handed right lol..dude has a amazing left hook

if DLH fights tito at 147 or 154 which prolly wont happen

dlh would do waht he did b4 but finish him this time

remember joppy said "Tito cheated when he beat him by puttin on his handwraps so it hurts u more" was that true or ne1 have more info on that

Joppy is just a sore loser.

Last night's fight between Taylor and Joppy answered a few questions. Is Taylor legit? Yes. Is Joppy shot? Probably, at least it's clear that he will never have a belt again. But I think you all have to agree that Trinidad is the most devastating puncher in the division, hands down. I'll tell you why. Well, let the facts tell you and you decide.

May 2001, Trinidad-Joppy
Joppy was known to have a very good chin and was actually undefeated( if you forget about the questionable loss he had against JC Green). Trinidad dropped him 3 times including one in the first round. Trinidad wins by TKO in 5 rounds.

November 2001, Joppy-Eastman
Eastman is able to drop Joppy only once in the last round. Joppy wins on points.

December 2003, Hopkins-Joppy
Hopkins faces a Joppy who is clearly not the same he was when he faced Trinidad. Yet, Joppy goes the distance and was never dropped.

November 2004, Taylor-Joppy
This is a Joppy who had not fought in almost a year. Taylor, a talented prospect, is getting Joppy three and a half years after Trinidad destroyed him. Yet, he only dropped him once and Joppy made the distance although he won only one round, in my opinion.

Result: Only Trinidad can brag because he is the only one to stop William Joppy in a career that includes almost 40 fights and covers more than 10 years.
if ur goin by that then ike has more power than tito cuz ike atleast dropped dlh and tito didnt even hurt dlh

trinidad might be the hardest puncher at middleweight.


He is the hardest puncher at middleweight bar none! One thing everyone ask about, is when a fighter moves up in weight, can that they still maintain their power (if they are a power puncher)? With Tito, it seems like he has gotten more powerful as he's moved up in weight!

well trindad is very powerful but hes no hopkins

When Tito really starts getting his legs into his punches, he is one of the best. What sets him apart from KT and Marquez is that he boxes well and has good movement / jabbing before the power shots.

KT and Marquez are a little more in love with their power.

However, the game plan against either of them is the same. Jab / move laterally / jab. If you start to exchange, their defense is good enough so that you will not hit them as much as you are hit and you will not hit them as hard as you are hit.

On the tier below that, you have guys like Corrales, Cintron, Lacy, Vitaly Klit.

It would be interesting to see each of them hit a computer that registers their force (lbs / square inch) and then divide it by their weight in lbs, to get some sort of inverse area measurement.

My guess is that the hardest Pund 4 pound punchers are the littlest guys, just like the best pound for pound wieghlifters are 4'6 90lbs and can clean 250.

well trindad is very powerful but hes no hopkins


Trinidad is a much bigger puncher than Hopkins. It's not even close. Hopkins has an awesome chin and that is why he was able to take Tito's punch.

if ur goin by that then ike has more power than tito cuz ike atleast dropped dlh and tito didnt even hurt dlh


That's not even the point. Funny how I start a thread and some posters make it morph into something completely different. Those fights were as night and day. Very different. DLH chose to box and never engage Trinidad. DLH-Quartey saw Oscar fighting and going for it. Besides, DLH was not hurt by Quartey. It was a flash knockdown.

Tito can punch that is for sure

Tito can punch, but Chico is the best. I've seen someone go toe to toe with Tito but not Chico

Tito can punch, but Chico is the best. I've seen someone go toe to toe with Tito but not Chico


Chico can certainly punch too, I wont disagree with you there.

I'm a big Tito fan but B-hop knocked him out so B-hop is the harder puncher. Maybe b-hop just did enough to beat joppy because the man was already washed up but when he is facing quality opponents he becomes meaner.

Tito's One Of The Few Who Brought His Power With Him Up In Weight .i'd Really Like To See Him Take A Tuneup Fight Against Winky Before He Trys Hopkins Again.

I'm a big Tito fan but B-hop knocked him out so B-hop is the harder puncher. Maybe b-hop just did enough to beat joppy because the man was already washed up but when he is facing quality opponents he becomes meaner.


There is no way that Hopkins is a harder puncher than Trinidad. Hopkins has a better chin than him but the power belongs to Trinidad.

There is no way that Hopkins is a harder puncher than Trinidad. Hopkins has a better chin than him but the power belongs to Trinidad.
Chico is. That's why I'm the only one who thinks he could upset Zoo

Chico is. That's why I'm the only one who thinks he could upset Zoo


This thread is about the middleweight division.

This thread is about the middleweight division.
My bad. I didnt read the first thread, just the title, but if Echols can still make weight then he might be. X still says this is the hardest puncher that he's faced

tito has alot of power but i don't know about having the most in the middles. b-hop has more if you ask me. i am a tito fan and all but there is also a realistic side to me.

Tito has awesome punching power...only rivaled at this point by Tszyu, Marquez, and Lacy IMO. The reason I put Lacy on the table is because he's rather inexperienced. He'll learn to channel his power and will become a much more devastating puncher than he already is as he gains experience. Tito certainly ranks among the top guys in terms of all time punching power P4P.

Regarding Hop and Tito, Tito has the harder punch but Hopkins is much stronger than Tito overall. The reason Hopkins was able to take Tito's punch is because he was barely hit with anything hard. He beat Tito to the punch, dodged most of his power shots, and ate anything left over. Hopkins is currently too strong and too physical for anyone at middle...and he's so crafty and conditioned that it won't change for another couple of years.

Oh and Chris Byrd has a hell of a punch too...Ottke and Urkal too. :D

There is no way that Hopkins is a harder puncher than Trinidad. Hopkins has a better chin than him but the power belongs to Trinidad.

Tito did not KO hoya but b-hops did. So who do you say has more power?

Tito did not KO hoya but b-hops did. So who do you say has more power?
TITO KO'D JOPPY BUT HOPKINS DIDN'T.

TITO KO'D JOPPY BUT HOPKINS DIDN'T.

Legit KO, not a soap opera like Hopkins-DLH. Trinidad really Koed Joppy.

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Tito's the best puncher i've ever seen.He may not be the absolute hardest puncher but between his timing,technique and commitment to the punch he's in a class by himself.

*corrales is also a great puncher on the inside

Hes got a good punch big deal. Doesnt mean he's the best. Hopkins beats him everytime.

Hes got a good punch big deal. Doesnt mean he's the best. Hopkins beats him everytime.

No **** ?
That's neither the topic nor the subject.

Trinidad is the best puncher at 160. Echols (if he was at 160) would be the HEAVIEST puncher, but Trinidad is the most LETHAL puncher.

I would like to see what would happen if Tyson let Tito punch him in the face as hard as he can and visa versa. We all know that Trinidad may be the one going down but I would like to see if tito's punch will shake Tyson or Knock him down

Tito better than Gomez, hardest punching Puerto Rican ever.