how the **** is vitali gone fight maskev..vitlai is a big giant ***** ..he dont fight nobody..and maskev knocked his ass out in the amatures

how the **** is vitali gone fight maskev..vitlai is a big giant ***** ..he dont fight nobody..and maskev knocked his ass out in the amatures
maskaev was getting his ass handed to him by vitali in the amatures. but vitali had an injured right hand and he kept using it (big giant *****es dont do that), the ref (knowing that the hand was injured) kept warning vitali that he would stop the fight if he used his right hand again. after a few minutes, vitali had no choice but to counter with a right hand and the ref stopped it, declaring maskaev the winner.

having said that, do u still think maskaev knocked his ass out?

This is already covered in another thread "NEWSFLASH: Heavyweight bum champion seeks BUM fight"


Please Merge

What is Vitali proving by fighting Maskev?

What is Vitali proving by fighting Maskev?

What is he prooving by fighting Rahman/Barret Valuev or Peter. All these guys are on the same level in my opinion. Fighting Maskaev is a fight just as valid as any other when Vitali cant access King's Title Holders. BTW you ever see that brutal KO Maskaev layed on Rahman, one of the best KO's ever.

let me crush the rumors here and now: Vitali Klitschko is NOT fighting Oleg Maskaev. maskaev is just one of the many dumass heavyweights that say they want a piece of vitali.

Anything wrong with after surgery tune-up?

maskaev was getting his ass handed to him by vitali in the amatures. but vitali had an injured right hand and he kept using it (big giant *****es dont do that), the ref (knowing that the hand was injured) kept warning vitali that he would stop the fight if he used his right hand again. after a few minutes, vitali had no choice but to counter with a right hand and the ref stopped it, declaring maskaev the winner.

having said that, do u still think maskaev knocked his ass out?



This is classic.

The excuses about his losses run into the ametures...

:rolleyes:

This is classic.

The excuses about his losses run into the ametures...

:rolleyes:
i read that story from a statement made by Oleg Maskaev himself. are u suggesting that this never happend?

What is he prooving by fighting Rahman/Barret Valuev or Peter. All these guys are on the same level in my opinion. Fighting Maskaev is a fight just as valid as any other when Vitali cant access King's Title Holders. BTW you ever see that brutal KO Maskaev layed on Rahman, one of the best KO's ever.


You are officailly one of the biggest idiots on this forum. I can see now why all these guys ignore you.

Maskiev was knocked out by Goofi Whittaker, Kirk Johnson, and 300lb Corey (not Corrie) Sanders. Since then he hasn't beaten anyone with a pulse.

He is NOT on the same level as Rahman, Barrett or Peter. Any of those guys would be a better fight than Maskiev.

If this fight comes off, Vitali's last 3 opponents will have been Corrie Sanders, Danny Williams, and Oleg Maskiev.

That's downright pathetic.

You are officailly one of the biggest idiots on this forum. I can see now why all these guys ignore you.

Maskiev was knocked out by Goofi Whittaker, Kirk Johnson, and 300lb Corey (not Corrie) Sanders. Since then he hasn't beaten anyone with a pulse.

He is NOT on the same level as Rahman, Barrett or Peter. Any of those guys would be a better fight than Maskiev.

If this fight comes off, Vitali's last 3 opponents will have been Corrie Sanders, Danny Williams, and Oleg Maskiev.

That's downright pathetic.

Yeah and Rahman was knocked out by Maskaev. What does that say about Rahman? He is on the same level as Maskaev. At least Maskeav has fought some top quality opposition. Something that cannot be said of Peter or Valuev.

At least Maskeav has fought some top quality opposition. Something that cannot be said of Peter or Valuev.
fighting top competition is one thing. getting KOd (like maskaev has) by top competition is another.

When it's all said and done Vitali will wind up fighting Barrett after Barrett disposes of that waste Rahman.

If anybody should get a title shot I would say it should be Krasniqui.

Rahman sucks. Maskaev is sucks. Meehan sucks. Barret is basically sucks. If anybody should get a title shot I would say it should be Krasniqui.

Your tiny mind NEVER takes timelines into consideration.

Maskiev knocked out Rahman in 1999. That was SIX years ago.

Since then Rahman became the undisputed and liniar Heavyweight champion, and Maskiev was KO'd by 3 fringe contenders.

Being an undefeated prospect is better than getting KO'd by 3 fringe contenders. Maskiev's wins since his KO losses don't include ANY wins over top 20 opponents.

Come off it.

Is This A ****ing Joke?!?!?

Your tiny mind NEVER takes timelines into consideration.

Maskiev knocked out Rahman in 1999. That was SIX years ago.

Since then Rahman became the undisputed and liniar Heavyweight champion, and Maskiev was KO'd by 3 fringe contenders.

Being an undefeated prospect is better than getting KO'd by 3 fringe contenders. Maskiev's wins since his KO losses don't include ANY wins over top 20 opponents.

Come off it.
sry, mckay. i have to agree with bozo on this one.

Rahman is overrated trash if I have ever seen it. Barret will defeat him.

Rahman is overrated trash if I have ever seen it. Barret will defeat him.

Classic of your bull ****. Your point is absolutly destroyed so you hop subjects.

I think Barrett will beat him too. That doesn't make Maskiev any better.

Classic of your bull ****. Your point is absolutly destroyed so you hop subjects.

I think Barrett will beat him too. That doesn't make Maskiev any better.

Krasniqui is better than Barret Rahman or Maskaev who I still contend are all basically on the same level.

Krasniqui is better than Barret Rahman or Maskaev who I still contend are all basically on the same level.


You're an idiot.

Krasniqui fought to a draw with Tino Hoffman, and looked terrible in doing so. He beat Whittaker, who's barely a top 30 fighter, and fought to a MD with Sinan Samil Sam, who was coming off a loss.

You have no idea what you're taling about half the time. You make up your mind about ****ty fighters in your head and spout your opinion like it holds a strong degree of relevence in trying to get people to agree with you.

Saying Krasniqui would be a more credible opponent than Barrett or Rahman is pretty typical of how clueless you are overall.

Unreal.

Krasniqui is better than Barret Rahman or Maskaev who I still contend are all basically on the same level.
i think krasniqi and juan carlos gomez are two dark horses in the heayweight division, although with gomez it depends on whether he is 100% focused on his career. i think those are two of the most skillfull boxers in the diviion [when on their game].

He just knocked out Lance Mount Whitaker and Chronology is apparently so important to you in this debate.


Take a look:

http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=007793


Whittaker is BRUTAL. He's NEVER been a top 20 fighter. He was stopped by McCline, and drew with RAY AUSTIN.

Take a look:

http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=007793


Whittaker is BRUTAL. He's NEVER been a top 20 fighter. He was stopped by McCline, and drew with RAY AUSTIN.

He has a split descison win over Barret and a KO 2 of Maskaev. The cards were very close in the McCline fight.

lennox lewis said krasniqi was one of the toughest sparring parnners he ever had, he's also european, and that sort of style can sometimes be very akward if the guy is talented, he beat the guy he lost to in round 1 of their rematch, and he didn't take the hoffmann fight seriously, a common thing with talented boxers who are going stale. i think krasnqi is a legit contender, and has just as much right to face VK as any other heavyweight IMO.

He has a split descison win over Barret and a KO 2 of Maskaev. The cards were very close in the McCline fight.


Sorry, I forgot I need to be specific with you. LOOK at what Whittaker has done since 2001 after losing to McCline.

He is NOT an impressive win on a resume.

Sorry, I forgot I need to be specific with you. LOOK at what Whittaker has done since 2001 after losing to McCline.

He is NOT an impressive win on a resume.

He has a TKO 5 of Friday Ahunaya who had a draw with Dominic Guinn in his most recent fight.

He has a TKO 5 of Friday Ahunaya who had a draw with Dominic Guinn in his most recent fight.

The same Guinn who LOST to Barrett and Serguei Lyakhovich?


Your logic just keeps getting better and better.

You do realize you've just spent several minutes tyring to make Lance Whittaker and Friday Ahunanya seem like credible opponents?

This is really sad.

The same Guinn who LOST to Barrett and Serguei Lyakhovich?


Your logic just keeps getting better and better.

You do realize you've just spent several minutes tyring to make Lance Whittaker and Friday Ahunanya seem like credible opponents?

This is really sad.

These pretenders all lose to each other and beat each other at different times. Really nothing else there is to say about it. They are journeymans, including Rahman and Barret.

whittaker and lyakhovich are better boxers than the likes of meehan or al cole who rahman has beat in his last few fights.

i dont think vitali got surgery he been way to eager tryna find somebody to fight to **** up rahmans timing after his fight with barret..he tryna fit it in after barrett rahman with just enough time so that rahman wont have enuogh weeks to train

haha this thread is funny. McKay, Bozo is all over you like a cheap suit.

haha this thread is funny. McKay, Bozo is all over you like a cheap suit.

I dont even know what I am arguing about with him. I just think Rahman is really overrated basically. I think he will lose to Barrett, and therefore Maskaev is not really any worse than him. Bozo takes this **** in all kinds of different directions though and then he accuses me of changing the subject. All these guys basically are sub par in my opinion. I would like to see Krasniqui fight Vitali over these 3 guys, or over Valuev or Peter for that matter.

Ideally I would want Klistchko to fight the other title holders though like everybody else.

I dont even know what I am arguing about with him. I just think Rahman is really overrated basically. I think he will lose to Barrett, and therefore Maskaev is not really any worse than him. Bozo takes this **** in all kinds of different directions though and then he accuses me of changing the subject. All these guys basically are sub par in my opinion. I would like to see Krasniqui fight Vitali over these 3 guys, or over Valuev or Peter for that matter.

Ideally I would want Klistchko to fight the other title holders though like everybody else.


Wow is that ever comedy.

You don't know what you're talking about, because everytime you are confronted with a point you don't like, you twist the subject.

In case you forgot, you twisted and twisted until you were calling Friday Ahunanya a credible opponent.

That was YOU doing the subject hoping. A trait you're fond of.

Wow is that ever comedy.

You don't know what you're talking about, because everytime you are confronted with a point you don't like, you twist the subject.

In case you forgot, you twisted and twisted until you were calling Friday Ahunanya a credible opponent.

That was YOU doing the subject hoping. A trait you're fond of.

What are you talking about. I was saying Krasniqui was a credible opponent partly because of his recent TKO victory of Whitaker. Then you said Whitaker was trash. But Whitaker recently beat Friday Anhunya who in his last fight had a draw with Dominic Guinn. You are really trying to misquote me is what you are doing.

What are you talking about. I was saying Krasniqui was a credible opponent partly because of his recent TKO victory of Whitaker. Then you said Whitaker was trash. But Whitaker recently beat Friday Anhunya who in his last fight had a draw with Dominic Guinn. You are really trying to misquote me is what you are doing.


With the amount of porrly thought posts it took you to say what you just said, there isn't really a good way to quote you effectivly. You're all over the place.

In the end, it's back to Barrett and Rahman being more deserving than Krasniqui and Maskiev for a shot at Klitschko.

With the amount of porrly thought posts it took you to say what you just said, there isn't really a good way to quote you effectivly. You're all over the place.

In the end, it's back to Barrett and Rahman being more deserving than Krasniqui and Maskiev for a shot at Klitschko.

Rahman is more deserving than Krasniqui. For what? Beating Al Cole and Kali Meehan. A victory over Lance Mount Whitaker is better than either Cole or Meehan. But Rahman is not going to beat Barret anyway. And Whitaker who you say is such trash beat Barrett in 1999. And Maskaev who you say is such trash demolished Rahman in 1999. Like I said in my original premis. These guys are all pretty much on the same level....And that is the only point I wanted to ever make in this thread.


This is my original post

What is he prooving by fighting Rahman/Barret Valuev or Peter. All these guys are on the same level in my opinion. Fighting Maskaev is a fight just as valid as any other when Vitali cant access King's Title Holders. BTW you ever see that brutal KO Maskaev layed on Rahman, one of the best KO's ever.

Rahman is more deserving than Krasniqui. For what? Beating Al Cole and Kali Meehan. A victory over Lance Mount Whitaker is better than either Cole or Meehan. But Rahman is not going to beat Barret anyway. And Whitaker who you say is such trash beat Barrett in 1999.

SIX years ago. What has he done since then? What has he done in the last 3 years? Nothing.

Rahman beat Lennox Lewis. That alone is better than anything Whittaker has ever done. Krasniqui's biggest win is over Whittaker.

I can't help you if you think he's a noteworthy win. That's stupid.

Rahman and Barrett are easilly in the majority of top ten lists. Whittaker is not. Krasniqui shouldn't be yet either.

I understand what you're getting at, and I don't agree. You're entitled to your opinion, but it's a minority one at best.

SIX years ago. What has he done since then? What has he done in the last 3 years? Nothing.

Rahman beat Lennox Lewis. That alone is better than anything Whittaker has ever done. Krasniqui's biggest win is over Whittaker.

I can't help you if you think he's a noteworthy win. That's stupid.

Rahman and Barrett are easilly in the majority of top ten lists. Whittaker is not. Krasniqui shouldn't be yet either.

I understand what you're getting at, and I don't agree. You're entitled to your opinion, but it's a minority one at best.

Still milking Rahman for that win against Lewis is very weak. Lewis has a weak chin and Rahman simply caught him. That is all Rahman is. A one punch wonder left over from the last decade. And you act like all these other guys I mentioned are on a level so below him, it is utterly ridiculous.

With the amount of porrly thought posts it took you to say what you just said, there isn't really a good way to quote you effectivly. You're all over the place.

In the end, it's back to Barrett and Rahman being more deserving than Krasniqui and Maskiev for a shot at Klitschko.


This mother****er doesn't care about wrong or right, or logic. He just wants to get under peoples' skin, and to feel like he controls others' emotions with his bull**** opinions that he tries to pass off as fact. He has always been, currently is, and always will be a dick riding ***** with no common sense and piss poor spelling skills who wants nothing more than to be able to tell himself that he "won" an argument, no matter how he has to twist, distort, or just plain lie about what others post. He secretly fancies himself as having the arguementative skills of a lawyer, but has the mental capacity of Ozzy Osbourne. See his opinion up there? See how he simply states it as a fact? Like it's up to him to decide lol. Look at every last one of his posts, and you'll see the same worthless **** lol

This mother****er doesn't care about wrong or right, or logic. He just wants to get under peoples' skin, and to feel like he controls others' emotions with his bull**** opinions that he tries to pass off as fact. He has always been, currently is, and always will be a dick riding ***** with no common sense and piss poor spelling skills who wants nothing more than to be able to tell himself that he "won" an argument, no matter how he has to twist, distort, or just plain lie about what others post. He secretly fancies himself as having the arguementative skills of a lawyer, but has the mental capacity of Ozzy Osbourne. See his opinion up there? See how he simply states it as a fact? Like it's up to him to decide lol. Look at every last one of his posts, and you'll see the same worthless **** lol

Would you prefer I put "I contend" before everything I post sunshine? ;)

Still milking Rahman for that win against Lewis is very weak. Lewis has a weak chin and Rahman simply caught him. That is all Rahman is. A one punch wonder left over from the last decade. And you act like all these other guys I mentioned are on a level so below him, it is utterly ridiculous.

Rahman is his mandatory defense, wheather you like it or not.

The only thing utterly ridiculous is you trying to take a weak points win from 6 years ago and act like it's relevent, but then turn around and say Rahman's KO over Lewis isn't.

You have WEAK logic to support your WEAK notions.

Rahman and Barrett are the popular choices for a crack at Klitschko. How many people would agree with your take that
Krasniqui and Maskiev are just as deserving? And why is that?

Rahman is his mandatory defense, wheather you like it or not.

The only thing utterly ridiculous is you trying to take a weak points win from 6 years ago and act like it's relevent, but then turn around and say Rahman's KO over Lewis isn't.

You have WEAK logic to support your WEAK notions.

Rahman and Barrett are the popular choices for a crack at Klitschko. How many people would agree with your take that
Krasniqui and Maskiev are just as deserving? And why is that?

AT the end of the day your the one who is trying to make Rahman sound like a credible contender mainly based on the his win of Lewis years ago. You cant point to any recent victories by Rahman to increase his stature. What are you going to point at. The Al Cole fight perhaps, or will it be the kali Meehan fight?

AT the end of the day your the one who is trying to make Rahman sound like a credible contender mainly based on the his win of Lewis years ago.

No, the WBC, Ring magazine, and the majorty of people are.

At the end of the day, you're trying to say that Krasniqui's win over Whittaker is more meaningful thatn Rahman's win over Lewis, and makes him a more worthy challenger despite the fact he's got a lot left to prove.

No, the WBC, Ring magazine, and the majorty of people are.

At the end of the day, you're trying to say that Krasniqui's win over Whittaker is more meaningful thatn Rahman's win over Lewis, and makes him a more worthy challenger despite the fact he's got a lot left to prove.

Never said any such thing. I have said from the beginning of this post that I consider Rahman Barret etc basically at about the same level. I think Krasniqui personally would have the best shot at beating Klistchko at the moment(of the fighters discussed.)

Would you prefer I put "I contend" before everything I post sunshine? ;)

Hey, If you thought I meant you, I apologize. I meant that ****er you seem to be trying to have an intelligent debate with, he's just not holding up his end lol

clearly, Oleg Maskaev deserves a shot at Vitali....

and clearly, Vitali is an awesome champion by accepting a challenge from someone with Maskaev's infinite credentials....

wait, who put this heroin needle in my arm? Nevermind everybody....

Quitschko sux, Maskaev sux, and the idea of them fighting for any title belt sux

clearly, Oleg Maskaev deserves a shot at Vitali....

and clearly, Vitali is an awesome champion by accepting a challenge from someone with Maskaev's infinite credentials....

wait, who put this heroin needle in my arm? Nevermind everybody....

Quitschko sux, Maskaev sux, and the idea of them fighting for any title belt sux

Damn SacTown1 is on a tear right now :) , but once again I agree! Your speaking nothin but the truth and that I must respect. :cool:

What is he prooving by fighting Rahman/Barret Valuev or Peter. All these guys are on the same level in my opinion. Fighting Maskaev is a fight just as valid as any other when Vitali cant access King's Title Holders. BTW you ever see that brutal KO Maskaev layed on Rahman, one of the best KO's ever.
do u have that anywhere is there anyway i can see dat through internet...

do u have that anywhere is there anyway i can see dat through internet...

I dont know where you could find a clip of that knockout to be honest. Someobody around here might have that fight on file but I dont.

What is he prooving by fighting Rahman/Barret Valuev or Peter. All these guys are on the same level in my opinion. Fighting Maskaev is a fight just as valid as any other when Vitali cant access King's Title Holders. BTW you ever see that brutal KO Maskaev layed on Rahman, one of the best KO's ever.

are you joking?!?!?!?!??!

I dont know where you could find a clip of that knockout to be honest. Someobody around here might have that fight on file but I dont.


...somebody on here has it in their sig. I can't remember who though, but I just saw it the other day.

Rahman does not deserve a shot at Vitali, the winner of the Rahman-Barrett fight deserves a shot at Vitali. Maskaev has not done enough to earn a shot, but Vitali needs to fight somebody. DK will not put Byrd or Ruiz against him, Brewster pussed out saying he does not want to fight until Vitali beats Rahman/Barrett, Toney should end all this crap and just take what was offered to him.

I know, Vitali should sign a fight with TOS. Thats better than Maskaev and it frees little brother to fight Byrd :boxing:
Only if Toney does not come through ofcorse.