you guys wrap & protect your hands allot during training right... what knuckles are you trained to punch with. I was tought to punch with my 2 first. but sense your hands are so protected....

if you punch correct you will hti the target most of the time wiht the first 2 or middle 2

thats where all the power is

I dont focus on what knuckles i hit them with, i focus on making sure my arm is twisted right by the time it hits the target. With the big gloves on you dont really have time to think about anything, its more of a natural movement. Just make sure your footwork, technique, weight distribution and accuracy are all top of the priorities when u throw the punch and it shouldnt matter what knuckles you hit them with, it will automatically hit the target with the largest part of the hand. That is the middle.

I agree with boxer2K5, the first two knuckles are where the power is at. The smaller the surface you hit the other guy with, the more power. 200 lbs of pressure is a lot more on 1 square inch, than on a square foot...

I agree with boxer2K5, the first two knuckles are where the power is at. The smaller the surface you hit the other guy with, the more power. 200 lbs of pressure is a lot more on 1 square inch, than on a square foot...
Yeah this probably explains why this guy doesnt hit hard, doesnt concentrate on technique and all the other things i mentioned, he just focuses on what part of the hand he hits them with, dont listen to him, your trainer will tell you basically what i told you and more.

Yeah this probably explains why this guy doesnt hit hard, doesnt concentrate on technique and all the other things i mentioned, he just focuses on what part of the hand he hits them with, dont listen to him, your trainer will tell you basically what i told you and more.

He asked what part of the hand to hit the target. That is the subject in this post. Your comments about technique in the rest of the body are therefore IRRELEVANT. :gives:

He asked what part of the hand to hit the target. That is the subject in this post. Your comments about technique in the rest of the body are therefore IRRELEVANT. :gives:
So because someone asks a particular question, you dont have the brain power to agree with someone who is also benefitting his underlying goal >> the ability to punch hard. Because if he wants to punch hard then my tips would be more useful than your tips. :bryce:

So because someone asks a particular question, you dont have the brain power to agree with someone who is also benefitting his underlying goal >> the ability to punch hard. Because if he wants to punch hard then my tips would be more useful than your tips. :bryce:

But he didn't ask how to punch hard. If you read his post again, he talks about handwraps etc., so maybe he's having hand problems BECAUSE HE PUNCHES HARD!?!?! Ever think of that?
Point is, some of us answered the question, YOU answered something else, as you usually do, and then you were being a smart ass about it. Give it up already.

And I never said I disagreed with the other stuff you said, other than your "advice" not to concentrate on what part of the hand to hit with.

But he didn't ask how to punch hard. If you read his post again, he talks about handwraps etc., so maybe he's having hand problems BECAUSE HE PUNCHES HARD!?!?! Ever think of that?
Point is, some of us answered the question, YOU answered something else, as you usually do, and then you were being a smart ass about it. Give it up already.

And I never said I disagreed with the other stuff you said, other than your "advice" not to concentrate on what part of the hand to hit with.
Ok im gonna have to sort you out like i did with Ron Mexico and oldgringo. I will quote what has been posted and demonstrate my point.

-"I was tought to punch with my 2 first".
-"thats where all the power is". << THIS IS THE ****IN MAN U AGREED WITH!!!!

Ok these 2 quotes show that the main reason for asking what knuckles to punch with, is because he wants to maximise his power. The man that u were nuthugging even said it or did u miss that bit conveniently. After all why would his trainer tell him to punch the his first 2 knuckles, to minimise his power? I dunno what gyms you go to, thats if u do anyway, ur probably just an armchair supporter. If the man that u agreed with says thats were the power is then u tell me that power isnt related in this thread then u have some proper thinking to do. Think about it first before you open your mouth. My post was in aid of this goal, to achieve lots of power in the punch. U obviously saw it as "IRRELEVANT", despite contradicting this beforehand.

So if you go and check this again u will find that i wasnt "answering something else" then being a "smart ass", i think that was you trying to make conflicting posts like this one. how about you get your own frame of mind sorted before you tell me what im doing wrong. ****ing spastic.

Ok im gonna have to sort you out like i did with Ron Mexico and oldgringo. I will quote what has been posted and demonstrate my point.

-"I was tought to punch with my 2 first".
-"thats where all the power is". << THIS IS THE ****IN MAN U AGREED WITH!!!!

Ok these 2 quotes show that the main reason for asking what knuckles to punch with, is because he wants to maximise his power. The man that u were nuthugging even said it or did u miss that bit conveniently. After all why would his trainer tell him to punch the his first 2 knuckles, to minimise his power? I dunno what gyms you go to, thats if u do anyway, ur probably just an armchair supporter. If the man that u agreed with says thats were the power is then u tell me that power isnt related in this thread then u have some proper thinking to do. Think about it first before you open your mouth. My post was in aid of this goal, to achieve lots of power in the punch. U obviously saw it as "IRRELEVANT", despite contradicting this beforehand.

So if you go and check this again u will find that i wasnt "answering something else" then being a "smart ass", i think that was you trying to make conflicting posts like this one. how about you get your own frame of mind sorted before you tell me what im doing wrong. ****ing spastic.

Where did he ask "how do you punch hard?", as a general question??? He asked "which knuckles do you hit with?"
This indicates that he KNOWS ABOUT THE GENERAL TECHNIQUE OF PUNCHING, or at least that it is not what he wants to know about. If he did, he would have asked about that. He is, however, confused about which knuckles to hit with, so Boxer2K5 answered that. Correctly, I might add. You however said to hit with the middle of your hand, but not to concentrate on it. WRONG ANSWER!!
Now, we were talking about which knuckles to hit with, right? So when someone answers that question, it is only natural to point out WHY you wnat to punch with the two first knuckles, and that is BECAUSE IT IS MORE POWERFUL. Get it? It is an argument FOR punching with your first 2 knuckles. NOT A GENERAL DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW TO PUNCH HARD. So yeah, in that context footwork etc. is irrelevant to the question.

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Where did he ask "how do you punch hard?", as a general question??? He asked "which knuckles do you hit with?"
This indicates that he KNOWS ABOUT THE GENERAL TECHNIQUE OF PUNCHING, or at least that it is not what he wants to know about. If he did, he would have asked about that. He is, however, confused about which knuckles to hit with, so Boxer2K5 answered that. Correctly, I might add. You however said to hit with the middle of your hand, but not to concentrate on it. WRONG ANSWER!!
Now, we were talking about which knuckles to hit with, right? So when someone answers that question, it is only natural to point out WHY you wnat to punch with the two first knuckles, and that is BECAUSE IT IS MORE POWERFUL. Get it? It is an argument FOR punching with your first 2 knuckles. NOT A GENERAL DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW TO PUNCH HARD. So yeah, in that context footwork etc. is irrelevant to the question.
Do u ever ****ing learn. Let me ask you this. Why do people punch each other? To further enhance this question let me ask you this. Why was he enquiring about the technique of punching someone. If you know what you are talking about then u will come to the conclusion that the answer to both of those questions is to hurt people, and to generate lots of power in the punch. This is what he is basically trying to get at. Just because he didnt ask it directly, i can see that this is what he is after. Why else would he want to know what knuckles to hit with? to ****ing take part in a tiggling competition? My points were in addition to boxer2k5's points which would have rounded off the whole thread, and he would then know by the end of it how to punch hard. Which is what he was basically after despite not directly asking it in the initial post.

Do u ever ****ing learn. Let me ask you this. Why do people punch each other? To further enhance this question let me ask you this. Why was he enquiring about the technique of punching someone. If you know what you are talking about then u will come to the conclusion that the answer to both of those questions is to hurt people, and to generate lots of power in the punch. This is what he is basically trying to get at. Just because he didnt ask it directly, i can see that this is what he is after. Why else would he want to know what knuckles to hit with? to ****ing take part in a tiggling competition? My points were in addition to boxer2k5's points which would have rounded off the whole thread, and he would then know by the end of it how to punch hard. Which is what he was basically after despite not directly asking it in the initial post.

Your points WEREN'T "in addition". They were actually contradicting his post, since you said, first of all, to hit with the middle of the hand, and second, to not worry about which part of the hand to hit with.
You were trying to one up 2K5, and you were, and still is, wrong.

Your points WEREN'T "in addition". They were actually contradicting his post, since you said, first of all, to hit with the middle of the hand, and second, to not worry about which part of the hand to hit with.
You were trying to one up 2K5, and you were, and still is, wrong.
So your saying that some1 made my points before on the same thread? No they didnt are u blind? Well if they didnt make the points before i made them, that means that my points where in addition to what has been said! You got that? If you improve any more ill start giving out sticky stars and sweets.

About the hand thing i said, basically, if u can try and make sure that u hit with the middle of your hand, but it will be a natural movement after getting experience so he wont have to "think about it". And no i wasnt trying to one up 2k5 i was trying to help the original poster who wanted to know about punch technique so i was giving him sum extra advice. You were in fact the one trying to one up boxer2k5 by saying all ur **** about pressure (200 sq foot and all that ****). Anyways does it matter, you have obviously conceeded that power was the main motive for this post, cos ur not arguing about it anymore. All i said was that my tips would help his power and you started a fukin debate. Your wrong im right shhh.

So your saying that some1 made my points before on the same thread? No they didnt are u blind? Well if they didnt make the points before i made them, that means that my points where in addition to what has been said! You got that? If you improve any more ill start giving out sticky stars and sweets.

About the hand thing i said, basically, if u can try and make sure that u hit with the middle of your hand, but it will be a natural movement after getting experience so he wont have to "think about it". And no i wasnt trying to one up 2k5 i was trying to help the original poster who wanted to know about punch technique so i was giving him sum extra advice. You were in fact the one trying to one up boxer2k5 by saying all ur **** about pressure (200 sq foot and all that ****). Anyways does it matter, you have obviously conceeded that power was the main motive for this post, cos ur not arguing about it anymore. All i said was that my tips would help his power and you started a fukin debate. Your wrong im right shhh.

Get it right. I didn't start responding to you, you started responding to me.
Your points weren't in addition, you were saying the opposite of what 2K5 said. If I say the answer is 1, and then you say it's 2, then you're not adding to my answer, you're contradicting it.
2K5 said to hit with the first two knuckles, you said to hit with the middle of the hand, and to not worry about what you hit with. Those to things are in contradition to one another. And your answer was WRONG. You should hit with the first two knuckles, and you should definitely make and effort to concentrate on it, until it becomes second nature.

And power was not the main motive for this post. Proper hand technique was.

You need to take your 16 year old, 0-0-0 (0 KO) ass back to the gym, and be quiet when the grown ups are talking, I've had enough of you.

Get it right. I didn't start responding to you, you started responding to me.
Your points weren't in addition, you were saying the opposite of what 2K5 said. If I say the answer is 1, and then you say it's 2, then you're not adding to my answer, you're contradicting it.
2K5 said to hit with the first two knuckles, you said to hit with the middle of the hand, and to not worry about what you hit with. Those to things are in contradition to one another. And your answer was WRONG. You should hit with the first two knuckles, and you should definitely make and effort to concentrate on it, until it becomes second nature.

And power was not the main motive for this post. Proper hand technique was.

You need to take your 16 year old, 0-0-0 (0 KO) ass back to the gym, and be quiet when the grown ups are talking, I've had enough of you.
Ok you obviously missed some information out of what boxer2k5 said.

I will quote him just to get it 100% straight and so we all know where we stand. Ok here goes:

"if you punch correct you will hit the target most of the time wiht the first 2 or middle 2

thats where all the power is"

Now i will quote what you said:
"you were saying the opposite of what 2K5 said".
"2K5 said to hit with the first two knuckles, you said to hit with the middle of the hand".

Now it doesnt take a genius to find out that boxer said "first 2 or middle 2", which is what i said cos i said "middle of the hand". So where is the contradiction there?

I didnt say not to worry about what you hit him with either, i said it will be a natural movement and you wont think about what part of your hand you are hiting him with, you will just hit him! I dont think "oh ive got to hit him with these 2 knuckles or it wont count" i just ****ing punch him!!

Ok im gonna quote you again now "I agree with 2k5". So if you agree with him why are you now saying it is wrong to hit with the middle part of the hand? thats what he said if u ****ing read it retard! You are the one who is contradicting yourself. Your making yourself look like a fool, your trying to argue and just falling at every hurdle.

Ok im gonna quote you now. Here goes:
"And power was not the main motive for this post. Proper hand technique was." - right so in your 800 million fights was you not told that technique leads to power? what im saying is technique = power. Which everyone on this forum seems to know apart from you. Its the movement of the feet, the distribution of weight as a punch hits that decided the power of the punch (hence technique). Now come on i dont see how you are training numerous amateur champions if u dont even know the basics like that!

Why the **** should i be quiet for you. You are a little **** face, who thinks he can train people but doesnt even know the ****ing basics! My record may be 0-0-0 cos i havent fought outside of my gym, but im showing more boxing knowledge than you. If my record matters that much, why are u finding it difficult to understand the very basics of boxing (you know the things you get taught within 2 weeks)! Your a ****ing dick head. the argument is over, i have answered all your points and given reasons. You lost, your a loser and your gay.

Did anyone think maybe he was asking because he doesn't want to hurt his hand in training. It doesn't have to be for power.

Actually to throw the hardest punch possible, you'd have to punch with the middle and ring finger. Make a fist and extend your arm so that it is straight. Notice that there is an imaginary straight line running from your ring finger knuckle to your shoulder? Your index finger knuckle and pink knuckle are too far to the left and right of this line respectively. The middle and ring finger knuckles are lined up perfectly with the shoulder. To truly throw a "straight" right, you would have to hit with those two knuckles. Hitting with the first and second knuckle makes the line slightly imperfect, regardless of how good your technique is otherwise.

These days people usually hit with the first and second knuckle because they are bigger and harder to break. This is the reason we use the first two knuckles. Not because they give you the most power, they don't. They are simply the most dependable and least likely to break.

you guys wrap & protect your hands allot during training right... what knuckles are you trained to punch with. I was tought to punch with my 2 first. but sense your hands are so protected....
No he wasnt asking for protection purposes, because as you can see he recognises that "wrapping" protects the hands and so he obviously does it. He was asking what knuckles to punch with, because of the amount of protection, not as a result of the lack of it :D.

:cool:

Did anyone think maybe he was asking because he doesn't want to hurt his hand in training. It doesn't have to be for power.

That was my first impression too. That you get better power from punching correctly is just an added bonus, as I said earlier. :)

Ok you obviously missed some information out of what boxer2k5 said.

I will quote him just to get it 100% straight and so we all know where we stand. Ok here goes:

"if you punch correct you will hit the target most of the time wiht the first 2 or middle 2

thats where all the power is"

Now i will quote what you said:
"you were saying the opposite of what 2K5 said".
"2K5 said to hit with the first two knuckles, you said to hit with the middle of the hand".

Now it doesnt take a genius to find out that boxer said "first 2 or middle 2", which is what i said cos i said "middle of the hand". So where is the contradiction there?

I didnt say not to worry about what you hit him with either, i said it will be a natural movement and you wont think about what part of your hand you are hiting him with, you will just hit him! I dont think "oh ive got to hit him with these 2 knuckles or it wont count" i just ****ing punch him!!

Ok im gonna quote you again now "I agree with 2k5". So if you agree with him why are you now saying it is wrong to hit with the middle part of the hand? thats what he said if u ****ing read it retard! You are the one who is contradicting yourself. Your making yourself look like a fool, your trying to argue and just falling at every hurdle.

Ok im gonna quote you now. Here goes:
"And power was not the main motive for this post. Proper hand technique was." - right so in your 800 million fights was you not told that technique leads to power? what im saying is technique = power. Which everyone on this forum seems to know apart from you. Its the movement of the feet, the distribution of weight as a punch hits that decided the power of the punch (hence technique). Now come on i dont see how you are training numerous amateur champions if u dont even know the basics like that!

Why the **** should i be quiet for you. You are a little **** face, who thinks he can train people but doesnt even know the ****ing basics! My record may be 0-0-0 cos i havent fought outside of my gym, but im showing more boxing knowledge than you. If my record matters that much, why are u finding it difficult to understand the very basics of boxing (you know the things you get taught within 2 weeks)! Your a ****ing dick head. the argument is over, i have answered all your points and given reasons. You lost, your a loser and your gay.

Haha, if you think you can judge your own fights like you judge this, you're in for a rude awakening, BOY! :boxing:

That was my first impression too. That you get better power from punching correctly is just an added bonus, as I said earlier. :)
Im sorry but you never said that, u said all my points where "irrelevant" and that im being a smart ass for mentioning power, even though he didnt directly ask about it. You disagreed with everything i had to say about so shut up about u said it was an "added bonus".

Haha, if you think you can judge your own fights like you judge this, you're in for a rude awakening, BOY! :boxing:
I consider the fact that u went back and edited your post as a concession of your defeat. The way you act and what you post is an indication of your defeat not my own judgement on the argument.

We don't know what the problems is if we don't see it or get more info.

1.) improper form. You need to correctly throwing your punches to the target. Bad forms or improper position leads to hitting on the outer knuckles.

2.) Improper hand technique. Kid achilles has it down but simply, Stand up. Stick you arm out 90 degrees to the body, let the hand go limp for 30 secs, make a fist and ther you go. Your hand needs to be parallel to the wrist. Knuckles and wrist are 180 degree. I like mine pointing slighlty down to focus more on the knuckles and get more damage.

3.) I'm not sure if you are new to boxing but work at 50%. Slow down and when you get more comfortable work the levels up. People hurt themselves way too often starting out by going all out. If you aren't you can tell me to fruk myself.

I dont focus on what knuckles i hit them with, i focus on making sure my arm is twisted right by the time it hits the target. With the big gloves on you dont really have time to think about anything, its more of a natural movement. Just make sure your footwork, technique, weight distribution and accuracy are all top of the priorities when u throw the punch and it shouldnt matter what knuckles you hit them with, it will automatically hit the target with the largest part of the hand. That is the middle.

too right cuz! rolling ya shoulder twisting ya fist, sittn down on ya punches will help u find ya power.

too right cuz! rolling ya shoulder twisting ya fist, sittn down on ya punches will help u find ya power.
Thank you very much. Now take some time out and read what bull**** the others where saying on this topic. These lot have no clue about boxing at all to be honest.

Thank you very much. Now take some time out and read what bull**** the others where saying on this topic. These lot have no clue about boxing at all to be honest.

Haha, that's because you have a whopping ZERO fights!! You 'da man!
Go back to grade school.

Haha, that's because you have a whopping ZERO fights!! You 'da man!
Go back to grade school.
Are you English or American? Im guessing neither cos you cant articulate the language properly can you.

You quoted me as saying "Now take some time out and read what bull**** the others where saying on this topic". Then you said what i just quoted. So hold on lets get this straight.

>> You talk "bull****" because i have a "whopping ZERO" fights. Cos that is what you have just said with that post. Oh yeah and also im from England, so when you post to me make sure i understand what you are saying. You criticise me for not making my posts not "coherent" enough (your spelling was wrong btw). Yet you tell me to go to "grade school". Ok im guessing you mean primary school but unsure.

And also dont judge me on my record. You dont know me. In fact not even do you not know me but you also dont know the basics of boxing. You think some1 is asking about punch techniques for a ballet competition they are entering into, as opposed to benefit their power. You da man boy. Go back to training your "national champions", and im telling ya if they where over here they would get ****ing owned on the **** you teach them.

Fact: You're a 16 year old boy with no fights. You don't know **** about boxing, OR life, and I'm done wasting my time on you. Consider yourself on ignore.

Fact: You're a 16 year old boy with no fights. You don't know **** about boxing, OR life, and I'm done wasting my time on you. Consider yourself on ignore.
Look up the definition of a fact. As i have said before, you may be suprised, cos half the **** you listed isnt true! make sure you check your own intelligence out before you question others. Im done with your constant bull**** aswell. I wont put you on ignore cos im not immature enough, maybe 16 but acting a lot older than you are at the moment.

This is what I have found out in all the bickering.

1.) the first 2 knuckles are the safest to use.
2.) the most power comes from the middle 2.

Right?



well ey ways I just wanted to know which knuckles modern boxers today punch with and compare it and add it to my Knowlage so I can use it in my MMA repituare.

Because some boxers say to punch with the last 3 knuckles and I wanted to have a broader range of opinion.

eXig3: I do have boxing training and technique. I dont have weak punches.

This is what I have found out in all the bickering.

1.) the first 2 knuckles are the safest to use.
2.) the most power comes from the middle 2.

Right?



well ey ways I just wanted to know which knuckles modern boxers today punch with and compare it and add it to my Knowlage so I can use it in my MMA repituare.

Because some boxers say to punch with the last 3 knuckles and I wanted to have a broader range of opinion.

eXig3: I do have boxing training and technique. I dont have weak punches.
The most power comes from great technique and the speed of the punch along with a couple of other factors. I think even that nonse has realised that from what he has been saying on other threads recently.

The best way to ensure safety of your knuckles and wrist is to wrap your hands and to wear the appropriate gloves for each situation.

"I do have boxing training and technique. I dont have weak punches" - this is precisely why you dont have weak punches, because you have boxing training and technique.

i dont foreal wanna tell yall cuz u could be opponents n **** but all da hardest punchers who ever lived hit with the last three knuckes with elbows againt body ..use your legs to throw the punch and dont use a arms at all

I'm so tired of the bs of what knuckles you should punch with. I agree with exig. Footwork, balance, sitting down on your punches, and twisting to get your torso behind the punch is so much more important than worrying about what damn knuckle you hit with. If your trying to hit someonw with basically the edge of your fist, then it only takes that little bit for a good fighter to slip that punch, drop down, and make you **** yourself with a good body shot. Try hitting him with your fist, the whole fist.

i dont foreal wanna tell yall cuz u could be opponents n **** but all da hardest punchers who ever lived hit with the last three knuckes with elbows againt body ..use your legs to throw the punch and dont use a arms at all


nice advice, considering u didnt wanna tell us!

i dont foreal wanna tell yall cuz u could be opponents n **** but all da hardest punchers who ever lived hit with the last three knuckes with elbows againt body ..use your legs to throw the punch and dont use a arms at all


also, there were many big hitters who were arm punchers or used alot of arm swing e.g. George foreman, Earnie Shavers, Bob fosters. They all stood tall and used an array of hooks, uppercuts and street style punches, which is quuite the contrary to modern day fighters who are taught to sit down on punches and use upperbody movement behind a straight punches. You say "use your legs to throw the punch and dont use a arms at all". no arm at all? i know what u trying to say in that to use leg power and upper torso turn behind punch, but there is some degree of arm orientation needed whether it be an overhand right, and uppercut, a left rip...etc.