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kevvy1979
12-04-2004, 10:44 PM
Hats off to the guy.He is a warrior.He took Lacy's best shots and kept coming.His speed was better ,as he got off more shots,but just not enough power to take the Title.Great fight

restless_438
12-04-2004, 10:51 PM
i was seriously impressed by Sheika's courage but he was holding like nothing else the entire second half of the fight.

jayschre
12-04-2004, 10:53 PM
Agreed I haven't seen O. Sheika fight that well ever. I remember thinking that he was gonna be a real force back when I first saw him fight, he was just plowing thru people then his defense got exposed and I definately thought he was finished after he lost to Lucas. I hope he gets more fights on tv as a result of this showing tonight cause that was def. a fight of the year candidate!

Cletus Funk
12-05-2004, 12:26 AM
Well done to Sheika. Hopefully this will serve as a bit of a reality-check for the Lacy diehards.

vandaNEXTlegend
12-05-2004, 12:29 AM
Sheika is on his way to becoming the next Micky Ward. Good for you Omar! :cool:

restless_438
12-05-2004, 12:54 AM
Well done to Sheika. Hopefully this will serve as a bit of a reality-check for the Lacy diehards.

what "reality-check?" Lacy dominated the last 5 rounds. The only reason Sheika gets credit is he didn't go down and "tried" to return punches.

Cletus Funk
12-05-2004, 01:01 AM
what "reality-check?" Lacy dominated the last 5 rounds. The only reason Sheika gets credit is he didn't go down and "tried" to return punches.

Not necessarily you, but some of the others who claim he'd ktfo Calzaghe in 6. Sheika's chin's not the greatest so it doesn't put Lacy in a particulary good light, especially as he's supposed to be about power. All I'm saying is that he needs more time - he's not there yet as some claim. If he fought Calzaghe now, he would lose quite badly IMO.

elveiel
12-05-2004, 02:02 AM
Not necessarily you, but some of the others who claim he'd ktfo Calzaghe in 6. Sheika's chin's not the greatest so it doesn't put Lacy in a particulary good light, especially as he's supposed to be about power. All I'm saying is that he needs more time - he's not there yet as some claim. If he fought Calzaghe now, he would lose quite badly IMO.

I agree, there is far to much pressure on Lacy to be elite already, he hasnt even had 20 pro fights!

The guys a good talent but he's far from ready for the big fights, the more experience Lacy gains now, the more likely he'll be ready when the time come to step it up!!

Boxings a working progress, you cant become a superstar overnight!!

restless_438
12-05-2004, 05:19 AM
The guys a good talent but he's far from ready for the big fights, the more experience Lacy gains now, the more likely he'll be ready when the time come to step it up!!

Boxings a working progress, you cant become a superstar overnight!!

I completely agree.

vB Martin
12-05-2004, 05:29 AM
Sheika's chin's not the greatest so it doesn't put Lacy in a particulary good light.
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sheika has only been stopped twice and one of them was on cuts. that's not exactly a weak chin

Cletus Funk
12-05-2004, 06:14 AM
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sheika has only been stopped twice and one of them was on cuts. that's not exactly a weak chin

I thought it was 3 times with 1 on cuts. Calzaghe battered him in 5 and the other guy was only a decent US domestic fighter. I agree his chin's not glass but it's not granite either. :)

jayschre
12-05-2004, 05:22 PM
I think Sheika's chin is just fine. His problem before was his defense which imo is getting much better. And as far as him "trying to return punches" the right hand he landed early on damn near put Lacy on his ass, it almost looked like he looked at the ref. as soon as he got cracked and said "oh ****", either way I thought it was a great fight and imo definately stole the show from Joel/Castillo. We should be seeing alot more of Sheika after his performance last night.

reebox8225
12-05-2004, 06:12 PM
Sheika was holding a lot, he looked like a little Ruiz.

tri4ben2
12-05-2004, 06:21 PM
Now lets not go overrating Sheka based on his performance with Lacy. He had many of the same problems that he had with Pemberton, he just managed to hold more and get to close to Lacy for Lacy to be really effective. Not that is not a knock on Sheika, he did what he had to do, but as the fight progressed, you could see that he was not on the same level as Lacy.

Sheika is not going to retire. He still has a lot of heart and he is still young. I think he is a good stepping stone for someone who thinks he can be an elite 168 lbs.

I would like to see him on showbox against another up and comer and I think he has the tools to give any 168 or maybe drop to 160 and give anybody trouble. He certainly will be more entertaining than say, Joppy.

Tha Greatest
12-05-2004, 07:32 PM
.....i give props to both them fighters

bchynn
12-05-2004, 08:58 PM
I didn't see the fight, but from what I heard, Lacy's punches you could see coming. That would explain why Sheika didn't get knocked out. It's the punches you don't see that hurt you.

whdempsey
12-05-2004, 10:33 PM
Well done to Sheika. Hopefully this will serve as a bit of a reality-check for the Lacy diehards.
This is kinda a dumb comment, Frank. Jeff has always been a slow starter. After he got up to full speed Sheika didn't win a round. Also, Sheika's been stopped twice on cuts, once on merit, that in his last loss against Pemberton. Clearly he's on the downside of his career, but I like comparisons to Ward.

`STEELHEAD
12-06-2004, 02:09 AM
omars the best.he will make a comfortable living as a stepping stone for up and coming champs and tuneup fights. he deserves it.

Cletus Funk
12-06-2004, 04:33 AM
This is kinda a dumb comment, Frank. Jeff has always been a slow starter. After he got up to full speed Sheika didn't win a round. Also, Sheika's been stopped twice on cuts, once on merit, that in his last loss against Pemberton. Clearly he's on the downside of his career, but I like comparisons to Ward.

I tried to explain what I meant a bit better further down the first page but Elveiel got it across even better.

Against Calzaghe he was stopped because he was out on his feet, not due to the cuts above both eyes. Did you see the fight or have you just been reading Sheika's interviews?

elveiel
12-06-2004, 10:32 AM
I tried to explain what I meant a bit better further down the first page but Elveiel got it across even better.


So its true what they say then, there is a first time for everything!! ;)

guru
12-06-2004, 10:37 AM
sheika's come a long way since being in tuesday night fight's "Just 4 Starters".... i never thought he would be as good as he showed this weekend.... that being said, i dont think he can beat lacy in a rematch...

Cletus Funk
12-06-2004, 10:37 AM
So its true what they say then, there is a first time for everything!! ;)

LOL. Maybe I should stick to making posts that wind up the Yanks and let you be the rational one :D

elveiel
12-06-2004, 10:43 AM
LOL. Maybe I should stick to making posts that wind up the Yanks and let you be the rational one :D

We could give that a try but i enjoy winding up the yanks to much!!

Its funny how the same rules dont apply for US boxers!! If Lacy was from the UK he'd be an overated, untested fighter who couldnt even stop Sheika!! :D

Cletus Funk
12-06-2004, 10:45 AM
Its funny how the same rules dont apply for US boxers!! If Lacy was from the UK he'd be an overated, untested fighter who couldnt even stop Sheika!! :D

I know but what can you do except keep giving it back to them? :D

urdaddyinAZ
12-06-2004, 10:55 AM
I got home a little late Sat night and only caught the Castillo-Casamayor fight. I really was much more excited for the Sheika-Lacy fight and was pleasantly suprised to hear it was a good fight. I have actually been thinking Sheika is similar to a big Arturo Gatti. Great offensive skills, pretty easy to hit, fairly good chin, cuts and swells easy, and a crowd pleaser. Can't wait to watch the replay tonight. This fight confrims to me that Joe C would hand Lacy his first loss/

cmason
12-06-2004, 11:19 AM
sheika's 2 fights with scott pemberton on espn were classics, he's a good fighter but just short of championship class.

whdempsey
12-06-2004, 01:20 PM
I tried to explain what I meant a bit better further down the first page but Elveiel got it across even better.

Against Calzaghe he was stopped because he was out on his feet, not due to the cuts above both eyes. Did you see the fight or have you just been reading Sheika's interviews?
Sorry, Frank, I hadn't read the whole thread, my mistake. I'm working off a 2002 issue of the Ring, wherein they name him the hardest-chinned supermiddleweight, and point to the Calzaghe fight as evidence. You're correct, though, I was not able to see the fight.

Cletus Funk
12-06-2004, 01:26 PM
Sorry, Frank, I hadn't read the whole thread, my mistake. I'm working off a 2002 issue of the Ring, wherein they name him the hardest-chinned supermiddleweight, and point to the Calzaghe fight as evidence. You're correct, though, I was not able to see the fight.

No problem. The cuts would have been enough to stop it but the ref actually jumped in whilst he was under a barrage of punches from JC after already being shaken by a few big ones earlier in the round and in the 4th. It's not how Omar tells it now though - he blames it on a butt.

tracylee
12-06-2004, 03:49 PM
sheika's 2 fights with scott pemberton on espn were classics, he's a good fighter but just short of championship class.


True...those were 2 great fights. I enjoyed the fight alot but got a bit irritated with Shieka for all that holding. I understand that they were both real tired from all that slugging, but Omar just seemed to get worse with the holding as the fight wore on. :confused:

MikeHunt
12-06-2004, 04:34 PM
It's time for Omar to call it a career. Everyone is saying 'great job'?, he LOST again. He's almost a 'stepping stone' or resume padder for up and comers...........

The story always ends the same

Great
12-06-2004, 05:37 PM
But fight was very good...