I think this is be a half decent fght but Vitali will break Danny down and stop him in about 7 or 8 rds. What are your feelings?

I think this is be a half decent fght but Vitali will break Danny down and stop him in about 7 or 8 rds. What are your feelings?


Williams will be flying across ring much like the guy in your avatar.

Vitali will start slow and careful but realize pretty fast that he's fighting a bum and knock out Williams before the 6th round ends.

I don't rate Vitali at all. The guy needed 50+ stiches after the Lewis fight and had to be helped into his stool but he is making a career of trying to convince people he retired Lewis. I don't think Williams is much either but he has more to his game that Klitchko does. I go with Williams either in the first two rounds if he comes out all guns blazing. I don't think he will though. He'll test Vitali's stamina and I think he'll win in the 7th.

took klit 8 to ko sanders. and all i know of williams is the tyson fight but i'd have to say he looked like a better challenger than sanders.

From Williams' three losses, he lost to Julius Francis and Samil Sam purely because he was too complacent. If he had the heart, he would have killed both. Against Michael Sprott, it was the most boring heavyweight fight I have ever seen (I do stay clear of Ruiz fights) but he won by a mile on points and the referee basically screwed him.

From Williams' three losses, he lost to Julius Francis and Samil Sam purely because he was too complacent. If he had the heart, he would have killed both. Against Michael Sprott, it was the most boring heavyweight fight I have ever seen (I do stay clear of Ruiz fights) but he won by a mile on points and the referee basically screwed him.

Sinan Samil Sam KOs Williams anytime and everywhere. Williams is a nobody who got lucky being at the right place at the right time.

From Williams' three losses, he lost to Julius Francis and Samil Sam purely because he was too complacent. If he had the heart, he would have killed both. Against Michael Sprott, it was the most boring heavyweight fight I have ever seen (I do stay clear of Ruiz fights) but he won by a mile on points and the referee basically screwed him.


...Sounds like Brit speak to me. Sam is the most telling. A slow guy with not much punching power who destroyed Williams. enough said!!!

Danny will be game, but I think Klitchko will take him out in the later rounds

Klitschko KO Williams in the middle rounds

Sounds like a Brit? What's your point?

i'm hoping Williams but i think it will be Klitschko.

For the sake of boxing we need Klitsko to win. We don't need another paper champion.

Going to be a good fight, My guess is that Klitschko KO's Williams in round 7 or 8. Williams isn't a pushover though, It should be something to see.

For the sake of boxing we need Klitsko to win. We don't need another paper champion.

If he beats VT why would he be a paper champion? :confused:

If he beats VT why would he be a paper champion? :confused:

Good question, Vk by Ko ore tko in 8 rounds.

i'll go for williams via KO.

Right then this is the thread i have been searching for. My pick still stands like it did 3 months ago and thats if Vitali hasn't beaten Danny in the first 6 rounds then i think Danny will win later on. Danny is a slow starter and builds and gains confidence slowly. He definatly has the skills to beat Vitali as Vitali is not a great champion at all. If Danny doesn't expose him and i REALLY hope he does then i think someone else will down the line. As for punching power i'd say this fight was pretty even, i can see Vitali's one-two giving Danny trouble in the early rounds but once you learn to avoid that what else does Vitali have? :p Some of you may think i'm been a little bias in hoping Danny will win because he is from the UK as am I but the fact of the matter is he has a chance and a chance in boxing is a big thing in my opinion.

I think this is be a half decent fght but Vitali will break Danny down and stop him in about 7 or 8 rds. What are your feelings? We will all see Vitali cut up and he will do what he does best, 'retire on his stool in the corner after 5 rounds'.

For the sake of boxing we need Klitsko to win. We don't need another paper champion.
but is vitali not a paper champion,
i think he is i mean who did he beat to become champion.
sanders was hardly champion elect was he,
before he exposed wlad his future lay on a golf course.

The British propaganda on this site really needs to stop.

Right then this is the thread i have been searching for. My pick still stands like it did 3 months ago and thats if Vitali hasn't beaten Danny in the first 6 rounds then i think Danny will win later on. Danny is a slow starter and builds and gains confidence slowly. He definatly has the skills to beat Vitali as Vitali is not a great champion at all. If Danny doesn't expose him and i REALLY hope he does then i think someone else will down the line. As for punching power i'd say this fight was pretty even, i can see Vitali's one-two giving Danny trouble in the early rounds but once you learn to avoid that what else does Vitali have? :p Some of you may think i'm been a little bias in hoping Danny will win because he is from the UK as am I but the fact of the matter is he has a chance and a chance in boxing is a big thing in my opinion.


Vitali is a great champion who has had outstanding career both in boxng and kickboxing.

Vitali outboxed everyone he fought, not merely outpunched.

Vitali will win.

The British propaganda on this site really needs to stop.

It's not propaganda buddy. Everybody has seen most of VK's fights but probably only the Brit guys on here have seen most of Williams' too, so I would say they're the only ones in a position to make an educated assessment of this fight. Anyone who knows Williams well will tell you the same things that you're hearing on here. If he gets into this fight then he has definitely got the boxing talent to beat VK. I voted for VK within 6 by the way.

It's not propaganda buddy. Everybody has seen most of VK's fights but probably only the Brit guys on here have seen most of Williams' too, so I would say they're the only ones in a position to make an educated assessment of this fight. Anyone who knows Williams well will tell you the same things that you're hearing on here. If he gets into this fight then he has definitely got the boxing talent to beat VK. I voted for VK within 6 by the way.

Most of Vitali's fights does not equal his fights with Lewis, Johnson, and Sanders buddy.

Most of Vitali's fights does not equal his fights with Lewis, Johnson, and Sanders buddy.

I thought he'd only had 5 :rolleyes:

We got a lot of his early career in the UK too.

Vitali in 5.

Vitali Tko's Danny in the 10th.

good fight wouldnt be suprised if either man wins.

Right then this is the thread i have been searching for. My pick still stands like it did 3 months ago and thats if Vitali hasn't beaten Danny in the first 6 rounds then i think Danny will win later on. Danny is a slow starter and builds and gains confidence slowly. He definatly has the skills to beat Vitali as Vitali is not a great champion at all. If Danny doesn't expose him and i REALLY hope he does then i think someone else will down the line. As for punching power i'd say this fight was pretty even, i can see Vitali's one-two giving Danny trouble in the early rounds but once you learn to avoid that what else does Vitali have? :p Some of you may think i'm been a little bias in hoping Danny will win because he is from the UK as am I but the fact of the matter is he has a chance and a chance in boxing is a big thing in my opinion.
i can understand the bias comment but you have to understand that most of us thought he had untapped potential for years and just didn't have the heart and desire. The Tyson win definately brought it out hence why we are starting to believe in him a lot more.

As for the paper champion comment going around, Klitchko is the champion during the worst period of heavyweights ever. He hasn't beaten anyone of true class because there is nobody out there. Everyone is in the same boat there.

Think back to one year ago. At that time, he was getting ready to fight Kirk Johnson at MSG. I remember hearing many of the same arguments.

Now I donn't know if Emanual Steward really meant it when he said that this is a 50 - 50 fight, but I don't see Williams being able to get inside, and I think that Vitaly will be pretty defensive and will keep Williams away with his jab.

A come from behind win over an injured tyson is not enough to give this guy a shot at Vitaly.

Danny Williams doesnt even deserve to be fightin vitali

he bought a one legged mike tyson

and u guys will all see when he gets knocked out before 4 rounds

Think back to one year ago. At that time, he was getting ready to fight Kirk Johnson at MSG. I remember hearing many of the same arguments.

Now I donn't know if Emanual Steward really meant it when he said that this is a 50 - 50 fight, but I don't see Williams being able to get inside, and I think that Vitaly will be pretty defensive and will keep Williams away with his jab.

A come from behind win over an injured tyson is not enough to give this guy a shot at Vitaly.

Steward also said that Vitali/Johnson was 50-50.

For the sake of boxing we need Klitsko to win. We don't need another paper champion.
Klit is a paper champion. Lewis retired remember? Klit should be unifying the division not fighting every one but belt holders.

Klit is a paper champion. Lewis retired remember? Klit should be unifying the division not fighting every one but belt holders.

Maybe you can convince Don King to let him fight Ruiz or Byrd then.

I think the fight will get stopped somewhere between the 7th and 12th round. Winner Vitai. This match reminds me of Rahman vs. Meehan, where Meehan got a lucky opportunity. Seriously, if Tyson didn't fight Williams on one knee, we would have forgotten about Williams long ago.

Hmmm you can't go editing your posts on me now.

took klit 8 to ko sanders. and all i know of williams is the tyson fight but i'd have to say he looked like a better challenger than sanders.


Williams may not be more than an average hw, but he always comes in in shape and now he's got a huge boost of confidence ( this makes him dangerous). coming in in shape is the big thing, it'll give him chances to hang around. i think Vitali wins, but this is a dangerous fight for him. williams has nothing to lose, he's gonna leave it all on the canvas, i think we'll see a more competitive fight than anybody expects, no one us has ever seen a danny williams with confidence. if u;re in shape for a fight, one of the biggest boosts for a fighter is confidence, if Joppy had really thought he could beat taylor he would have kept trying... if u don't believe me, think of lamon Brewster, he's got nothing but determination and a great attitude

I had a dream that VK knocked DW down three times in the first round.

Listen Sanders had skills, Johnsen had skills and LL definetly has skills but they were not in good enough shape, even if danny shows upp in great shape he aint got the skills.

I will have to put my 2 cents. I think that Klit is gonna KO DW. And he will do it quiet early. My opinion is based on past performances of both fighters.

I had a dream that VK knocked DW down three times in the first round.
With one punch :D

With one punch :D

LOL. I like that one :D

i gone for williams on points, its the only way i can see williams winning, and i would like to see him win, but i can see vit ko'ing him in the 9th, that aside i think williams could wear vit down some some bodyshots and just take it on points, will be an interesting fight and the best man will win on the night, best of luck to them both

Listen Sanders had skills, Johnsen had skills and LL definetly has skills but they were not in good enough shape, even if danny shows upp in great shape he aint got the skills.


Leff, your avatar looks familiar.

Vitali is a great champion who has had outstanding career both in boxng and kickboxing.

Vitali outboxed everyone he fought, not merely outpunched.

Vitali will win.

I bet you 100000 points that Danny wins.

You got to support your fellow countryman. :cool:

No Wez, no. Vitali wants it more, he has heart!

No Wez, no. Vitali wants it more, he has heart!

I wouldn't say Vitali wants it more, Danny has had a tough career and this is his last shot at the big time. Like i said i'm betting with my heart and not general boxing knowledge. :cool:

FROM HBO.COM

As a special preview for HBO Boxing fans leading up to the Klitschko-Williams pay-per-view fight, HBO Sports will present the exclusive re-broadcast of WBC heavyweight champ Vitali Klitschko's three exciting fights against Lennox Lewis, Kirk Johnson and Corrie Sanders on Friday, December 10 (10:00 p.m. ET/PT) and Saturday, December 11 (3:30 p.m. ET/PT) on the HBO2 service.

If Klitschko Doesn't Get Him Outta There In 2 Rounds I'll Be Surprised

Vitalai by Ko in the Middle

If Klitschko Doesn't Get Him Outta There In 2 Rounds I'll Be Surprised

that is an insult, more so to your boxing knowledge than anything else, 2 rounds? :eek: if he puts him out in 2 rounds ill run around the streets of london butt naked...

that is an insult, more so to your boxing knowledge than anything else, 2 rounds? :eek: if he puts him out in 2 rounds ill run around the streets of london butt naked...



..... Don't those soccer hooligans do that every night for no apparent reason? Do something that nobody else has tried. How about you take a 12 inch dildo and shove it up your ars while singing god save the Queen in front of Buckingham palace?

Danny might find it difficlut early, but he can drown him late

I think Vitali is to technical and smart for Williams. But then again have we ever seen Williams besides the Tyson fight??

..... Don't those soccer hooligans do that every night for no apparent reason? Do something that nobody else has tried. How about you take a 12 inch dildo and shove it up your ars while singing god save the Queen in front of Buckingham palace?

you could lend him yours

vitali within 3....i ahev a q...i am not screwing with anyone opioion here but really i just wanna know...why the **** would you want williams as a champion???

vitali within 3....i ahev a q...i am not screwing with anyone opioion here but really i just wanna know...why the **** would you want williams as a champion???

If I'm honest, I don't think he's earned it in terms of who he's fought. In terms of his talent though, he's worthy of a shot.

It's not propaganda buddy. Everybody has seen most of VK's fights but probably only the Brit guys on here have seen most of Williams' too, so I would say they're the only ones in a position to make an educated assessment of this fight. Anyone who knows Williams well will tell you the same things that you're hearing on here. If he gets into this fight then he has definitely got the boxing talent to beat VK. I voted for VK within 6 by the way.

So then why is Williams ONLY talked about after the Tyson fight. I've never heard him mentioned by anyone before.

So then why is Williams ONLY talked about after the Tyson fight. I've never heard him mentioned by anyone before.

Don't know. He's been well known throughout Europe for years but never really fought anyone of interest to the US crowd until Tyson maybe? Him beating Tyson was a shock to the Brits as well. He's always been a bit of a mental ****-up which has lost him a lot of fights and is the main reason most people haven't really considered him for a world title, not because of a lack of ability.

i think williams has a hell of a chance, vitali is not that good a fighter, all he has is size. if danny can get inside that jab and work the body early he could win. klitchko has said how he retired lewis but i think lewis realised that if someone as ordinary as klitchko could give him a fight he was getting old.

Williams points or late rounds stoppage through cuts.

is it on english tv? sky or bbc?

..... Don't those soccer hooligans do that every night for no apparent reason? Do something that nobody else has tried. How about you take a 12 inch dildo and shove it up your ars while singing god save the Queen in front of Buckingham palace?

lol that aint really my thing :(
soccer hooligans just tend to shout/fight/vandalise streets more than anything, but its really not as bad as people make out when i gone to soccer matches i havnt had any problems at all

is it on english tv? sky or bbc?

Sky Box Office man. PPV

cheers wez. great film