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kaps
04-20-2010, 10:32 PM
Penn vs Edgar II, UFC 118, Aug. 28, in Boston

Former UFC lightweight champion BJ Penn will get his rematch with Frankie Edgar on August 28th, Fighters Only can reveal after speaking with several key sources. The fight will headline UFC 118, the UFC’s first card in Boston, Massachusetts.

Penn lost the title to Edgar at UFC 112 on April 10th by way of a controversial unanimous decision. Edgar outworked and out-manoeuvred Penn for much of the fight, but it was an extremely close affair that produced three very different judges’ scorecards. One judge gave all five rounds to Edgar, but that score has been widely ridiculed.

Both Penn and Edgar have since given interviews to Fighters Only and other media outlets in which they stated an immediate rematch was the most likely prospect. Placing it on the Boston card makes sense geographically as Edgar’s New Jersey home is only a five-hour drive away, allowing plenty of his fans to travel for the fight.

http://www.fightersonlymagazine.co.uk/news/viewarticle.php?id=4332

Stalaggh
04-20-2010, 11:01 PM
Its bull**** really, Penn got beat in that fight don't know why the immediate rematch thing, it certainly isn't a Machida-Shogun scenario.

F l i c k e r
04-20-2010, 11:42 PM
I guess it's because he loss by decision and not a ktfo or submission.


Because in all honestly, KenFlo and Maynard should be the ones first in line for the title shot. Penn should at least fight one of the guys I mentioned before getting the rematch.

Ya Boy NeXt
04-20-2010, 11:43 PM
Its bull**** really, Penn got beat in that fight don't know why the immediate rematch thing, it certainly isn't a Machida-Shogun scenario.

Penn has been the most dominant Lightweight champion in history. Look at his last five matches at Lightweight:

Pulver - choked out
Stevenson - choked out, wins belt
Sherk - TKO'd, becomes undisputed champ
Florian - choked out
Sanchez - TKO'd

None of these fights were even CLOSE. And now, out of nowhere, Frankie Edgar beats BJ Penn by decision, in a close fight, and BJ shouldn't get his rematch? If Frankie's that good and wants to make himself known as a real challenger, he will gladly take BJ on in a rematch to solidify himself. If he wins, we know it's the real deal.

BJ's run at Lightweight is unprecedented, and I believe he deserves the rematch to get his revenge and show the world that maybe he really WAS sick/not at his best.

Stalaggh
04-21-2010, 01:42 AM
Penn has been the most dominant Lightweight champion in history. Look at his last five matches at Lightweight:

Pulver - choked out
Stevenson - choked out, wins belt
Sherk - TKO'd, becomes undisputed champ
Florian - choked out
Sanchez - TKO'd

None of these fights were even CLOSE. And now, out of nowhere, Frankie Edgar beats BJ Penn by decision, in a close fight, and BJ shouldn't get his rematch? If Frankie's that good and wants to make himself known as a real challenger, he will gladly take BJ on in a rematch to solidify himself. If he wins, we know it's the real deal.

BJ's run at Lightweight is unprecedented, and I believe he deserves the rematch to get his revenge and show the world that maybe he really WAS sick/not at his best.


Agreed but I'm with F l i c k e r, either Florian or Maynard should get Edgar next. Penn deserves his rematch but just not right away.

American_Ninja
04-21-2010, 01:45 AM
Penn has been the most dominant Lightweight champion in history. Look at his last five matches at Lightweight:

Pulver - choked out
Stevenson - choked out, wins belt
Sherk - TKO'd, becomes undisputed champ
Florian - choked out
Sanchez - TKO'd

None of these fights were even CLOSE. And now, out of nowhere, Frankie Edgar beats BJ Penn by decision, in a close fight, and BJ shouldn't get his rematch? If Frankie's that good and wants to make himself known as a real challenger, he will gladly take BJ on in a rematch to solidify himself. If he wins, we know it's the real deal.

BJ's run at Lightweight is unprecedented, and I believe he deserves the rematch to get his revenge and show the world that maybe he really WAS sick/not at his best.


This.........

-Swizzy-
04-21-2010, 01:54 AM
Its bull**** really, Penn got beat in that fight don't know why the immediate rematch thing, it certainly isn't a Machida-Shogun scenario.

because a lot of people believe Penn won. Its like the Shogun-Machida rematch... its the right thing to do.
Agreed but I'm with F l i c k e r, either Florian or Maynard should get Edgar next. Penn deserves his rematch but just not right away.

no way Florian should get that shot. Penn beat him... if anything, Florian should have to go through Penn if he wants a shot at that belt. It would be wrong for him to be a champion when he has never beaten Penn who is still active in that division.

F l i c k e r
04-21-2010, 02:05 AM
No way Florian should get that shot. Penn beat him... if anything, Florian should have to go through Penn if he wants a shot at that belt. It would be wrong for him to be a champion when he has never beaten Penn who is still active in that division.


Thats why I said, Penn should at least fight KenFlo or Maynard first. Then get his title shot.

I think KenFlo has made a pretty big statement as to why he should get the title shot. Dismantled Guida, sure Clay is a gatekeeper but KenFlo put him away with ease. Then he picks Gomi apart, that was worse than when Nick beat him. KenFlo vs Penn II for #1 contender would be a great fight though.

1 on 1
04-21-2010, 02:15 AM
Thats why I said, Penn should at least fight KenFlo or Maynard first. Then get his title shot.

I think KenFlo has made a pretty big statement as to why he should get the title shot. Dismantled Guida, sure Clay is a gatekeeper but KenFlo put him away with ease. Then he picks Gomi apart, that was worse than when Nick beat him. KenFlo vs Penn II for #1 contender would be a great fight though. Fair is fair, I agree, but, I don't know about it being a great fight. Ken-Flo always had to fight off the "softy label", but, the way he fought BJ, he just has too much respect for him.

F l i c k e r
04-21-2010, 02:18 AM
Fair is fair, I agree, but, I don't know about it being a great fight. Ken-Flo always had to fight off the "softy label", but, the way he fought BJ, he just has too much respect for him.

The way KenFlo handled Gomi. I don't think there will be much respect for Penn's hands if a second fight comes around.

1 on 1
04-21-2010, 02:38 AM
The way KenFlo handled Gomi. I don't think there will be much respect for Penn's hands if a second fight comes around.Dude, I didn't get to watch the Penn - Edgar fight(maybe father time has caught up with him), but, a tip-top Penn, there ain't a d*mn thing Ken-Flo can do, man.

MJ406
04-21-2010, 09:30 AM
yeah I think the outcome on Ken-Flo vs Penn is pretty much inevitable ... and besides, no need for them to fight again .. unless they can win a couple more

**any truth to the rumor I read that Maynard was fighting Florian next?

if that ^ were so .. even more reason for having Penn vs Edgar right away, and I'd presume the Florian-Maynard winner will get the next title shot.

murmagic
04-21-2010, 09:40 AM
kenflo vs edger and maynard vs penn

winner vs winner

Virgil Caine
04-21-2010, 10:29 AM
I don't see anything particularly wrong with the immediate rematch, given BJ's reign and status, and that it was still a relatively close fight. I could go either way though. As with most things though I'm sure it's a business decision first, as Penn is a popular fighter.

ABOSWORTH
04-21-2010, 02:41 PM
Good, he deserves a rematch. I don't see why some people are so appalled.

-Swizzy-
04-21-2010, 03:07 PM
Thats why I said, Penn should at least fight KenFlo or Maynard first. Then get his title shot.

I think KenFlo has made a pretty big statement as to why he should get the title shot. Dismantled Guida, sure Clay is a gatekeeper but KenFlo put him away with ease. Then he picks Gomi apart, that was worse than when Nick beat him. KenFlo vs Penn II for #1 contender would be a great fight though.

I would agree with you HAD penn lost by a wide margin or a stoppage. but the fight was extremely close and can't be considered a legit loss. Penn shouldn't have to earn another title shot. that would just be ridiculous. Penn earned an immediate rematch IMO.

Ya Boy NeXt
04-22-2010, 01:01 AM
This is the way it's looking to pan out:

Edgar-Penn II
Florian-Maynard

Both are probably going to be at UFC 118, the first card held in Boston. Chances are the winners of both fights meet each other. If you ask me, this is a pretty fair assessment, being that Penn and Frankie fought a close fight that could have gone either way. Penn's win over Florian I think speaks to Kenny not deserving a shot at the belt before Penn at least gets a shot at redemption. I see Penn pulling off a victory, convincingly, and Florian shining in his hometown to set up Penn-Florian II.

jakkups
04-22-2010, 01:14 PM
I don't see what the fuss is all about. I praise both guys for taking each other on again because it shows the character. Edgar is willing to give the former champ another shot to prove that the first time was no fluke, in turn (should he be victorious once more) leaving no doubts to the credibility of his status as a champion and #1 LW in the world. Penn does what Shane Mosley, Lennox Lewis and Tommy Hearns, to name a few, did and chase down the guys who beat him in order to prove his championship quality in regaining the title (should he win the rematch) and that he is still the best in the world.

Maynard is worhty of s shot. He's the only guy to beat Edgar which is reason enough to give him another crack at him, and it gives Edgar a chance to avenge the only loss of his pro career.

Kenflo needs to beat Maynard and Penn to get another shot IMO. Kenflo hasn't beaten anyone that is in contention for the title. All he has done since he lost to Penn is beat a guy that has never and will never challenge for the title in Guida, and then beat Gomi who hasn't been a force at 155 for 4 years. Kenflo catches guys when they're at a low point, whether it be on a losing streak or during a period of inconsistent performances, in order to make himself look alot better than he is. The guy has skills but his competition (most notably the timing of these matchups) flatters him alot. I mean, he hasn't even searched for a rematch with Sherk, and even when Sanchez was at 155 he wasn't looking for a rematch with him. The guy's a cherrypicker IMO.