View Full Version : Would you vote for Pacquiao?


sweetpea87
04-19-2010, 05:35 PM
You will have to excuse my American ignorance. I am not sure exactly what position Manny is running for, but if you can would you vote for him being a Manny fan? Would you vote to support him even if that means his retirement from boxing soon, or would you vote against him in hopes he stays in boxing? Do you even want to have the biggest star in the country as part of congress? It is not uncommon in America to have celebrities turned politicians, like the current governor of California and ex President Ronald Regan both used to be actors. I'm just wondering if he has a good shot at winning over there.

I AM THE WEST
04-19-2010, 05:54 PM
No! He doesn't have the knowledge or education to be in office. What good is he going to do for his people without an education? The government is only going to use him as a puppet. Just look what happened out in Cali with Arnold Schwarzenegger. He also has criminals and corrupt officials around him.

Chups
04-19-2010, 06:03 PM
I would not vote for him personally.

JM1
04-19-2010, 06:54 PM
No! He doesn't have the knowledge or education to be in office. What good is he going to do for his people without an education? The government is only going to use him as a puppet. Just look what happened out in Cali with Arnold Schwarzenegger. He also has criminals and corrupt officials around him.

cosign. though i have a feeling that manny has a good intention, but i still wont vote for him

PrtyBoyDlicious
04-19-2010, 07:15 PM
No Fuking way!!!

Only dumbass Filipinos will vote for him!!!

Anabolism
04-19-2010, 09:17 PM
NOPE! great boxer and i dont doubt his lovefor the country but what credentials does he have running for office? NONE! ill continue to proudly support manny as a boxer, not as a politician

Akinapepemo
04-19-2010, 09:54 PM
No i won't. He's free to run for office but that doesn't mean he's ideal for public service. That won't stop the masses from voting him though. In 2004 an actor who was as popular as Pacquiao in the Philippines ran for the highest post and almost won. I expect a similar situation should Pacquiao run for a national post.

| THE KING |
04-19-2010, 10:03 PM
I know he has good intentions (atleast i hope)... i don't know if voting him in office is a good idea though.

LeeVanCleef
04-20-2010, 05:20 AM
I'm in the minority here...but I think Pacquiao deserves to win, hence my vote for him.

All I'm saying is that from a pragmatic point of view, he is positioning himself to make his political career an important step to secure his power base. While yes, it is silly to think of him becoming a politician is unbecoming of his stature, the reality is that he based his decision (in my opinion) is not to end up like Rolando Navarette, or Mansueto Velasco, or any countless boxers who went to mega-rich lifestyles to being bums in less than a decade.
Politics in the Philippines is really a game for the Oligarchs, the mega-rich. Hence Pac has the means to join.

Yes that boxer Navarette, who was the king of the world at one point, suddenly crashed and burned. Any Pinoy or boxing fan knows this, and it has been highlighted at an HBO 24/7 (Pac-Cotto? Someone help me on this.).

Sure it will make him a loathsome figure sooner than later, but guess what? He associated himself with seasoned politicos (one of which is dick-smashing warlord at that), that he really wants this win so badly. Politics is a game of addition, moreso relevant here in his adopted hometown in Mindanao.

So, would you rather see him in showbiz full-time instead? Let me see a number of hands....

At least Floyd can retire again without being hounded by his minions to run as a congressman in Las Vegas...oh wait....

:pat:

DR.ORGYY
04-20-2010, 05:30 AM
No......be a full time fighter manny.. Screw politics...

Chadmack
04-20-2010, 09:26 AM
for national positions such as congressmen or senators or even President, i would not vote for him.

though in some degree, celebrities turned politician normally do well in the local posts like mayors and governors and lower office, their good intentions are surely to be utilized here since they will be more people-oriented and will face local problems. however, being congressman is of national position and the "good intentions" are simply not enough. you have to bring something to the table which Pac simply doesnt have.

he can say that he have the staff to do the work for him, yeah sure, it is still different if he himself can do the work, right? as what most of us are thinkng, he will just be a puppet or a mascot of the government, they would probably lay down the paper works for him to sign without knowing what it is or what it is for.

but i wouldnt be surprised if he indeed wins the coming elections, the thinking-people are simply overrun by the gullibles.

Dick Buffman
04-20-2010, 09:28 AM
i don't even like his choices in sports teams.

why would i want him making more serious decisions?

Chadmack
04-20-2010, 09:32 AM
I'm in the minority here...but I think Pacquiao deserves to win, hence my vote for him.

All I'm saying is that from a pragmatic point of view, he is positioning himself to make his political career an important step to secure his power base. While yes, it is silly to think of him becoming a politician is unbecoming of his stature, the reality is that he based his decision (in my opinion) is not to end up like Rolando Navarette, or Mansueto Velasco, or any countless boxers who went to mega-rich lifestyles to being bums in less than a decade.
Politics in the Philippines is really a game for the Oligarchs, the mega-rich. Hence Pac has the means to join.

Yes that boxer Navarette, who was the king of the world at one point, suddenly crashed and burned. Any Pinoy or boxing fan knows this, and it has been highlighted at an HBO 24/7 (Pac-Cotto? Someone help me on this.).

Sure it will make him a loathsome figure sooner than later, but guess what? He associated himself with seasoned politicos (one of which is dick-smashing warlord at that), that he really wants this win so badly. Politics is a game of addition, moreso relevant here in his adopted hometown in Mindanao.

So, would you rather see him in showbiz full-time instead? Let me see a number of hands....

At least Floyd can retire again without being hounded by his minions to run as a congressman in Las Vegas...oh wait....

:pat:
i dont think he is bright enough to think that way... i say it is more of leeches surrounding him branwashing him to do that.

showbiz is a different discussion though, sure he can enter showbiz, but at least people can choose not to watch :)

Bogler
04-20-2010, 11:28 AM
mas gusto ko pa syang mambabae ng husto kesa iboto for high govt positions. malay mo mabanatan nya sila marian rivera, angelica panganiban, etc at tapos may lalabas na mga scandal videos at pics ayos! mas maraming matutuwang malilibog lol.

Bogler
04-20-2010, 11:28 AM
mas gusto ko pa syang mambabae ng husto kesa iboto for high govt positions. malay mo mabanatan nya sila marian rivera, angelica panganiban, etc at tapos may lalabas na mga scandal videos at pics ayos! mas maraming matutuwang malilibog lol.

ay lintek pakiingles nga at porenjer pala ang TS lol.

Amazinger
04-20-2010, 11:48 AM
mas gusto ko pa syang mambuntal ng husto kesa iboto for high govt positions. malay mo mabanatan nya sila Shane Mosley, Floyd Mayweather, etc at tapos may lalabas na mga videos at pics ayos! mas maraming matutuwa at malilibang lol.

translation......

I'd rather have him(Pacquiao) beat the sh*t out of Shane Mosley or Floyd Mayweather rather than vote for him in the high government office.And a lot of people will watch the fight right away on video.......:lol1:

tama ba tranlesysyon ko.........

Amazinger
04-20-2010, 11:52 AM
You will have to excuse my American ignorance. I am not sure exactly what position Manny is running for, but if you can would you vote for him being a Manny fan? Would you vote to support him even if that means his retirement from boxing soon, or would you vote against him in hopes he stays in boxing? Do you even want to have the biggest star in the country as part of congress? It is not uncommon in America to have celebrities turned politicians, like the current governor of California and ex President Ronald Regan both used to be actors. I'm just wondering if he has a good shot at winning over there.


If I can vote ...I would not vote for him.

One of the biggest star in the Philippines became president too but was impeached.......

Bogler
04-20-2010, 12:09 PM
translation......

I'd rather have him(Pacquiao) beat the sh*t out of Shane Mosley or Floyd Mayweather rather than vote for him in the high government office.And a lot of people will watch the fight right away on video.......:lol1:

tama ba tranlesysyon ko.........

ayos green K! lol

badboy
04-20-2010, 12:24 PM
if he had the right intentions and really would like to serve the people more, he doesn't need to be in politics.....he could do this without entering politics....

another thing, congress should be a place for thinkers due to law formulation and not a place for implementors of the law just like mayors and governors....it would have been better if he ran for this positions as doesn't need much of thinking but more of implementation of the laws....he would have a better chance of winning....

LeeVanCleef
04-20-2010, 12:41 PM
for national positions such as congressmen or senators or even President, i would not vote for him.

though in some degree, celebrities turned politician normally do well in the local posts like mayors and governors and lower office, their good intentions are surely to be utilized here since they will be more people-oriented and will face local problems. however, being congressman is of national position and the "good intentions" are simply not enough. you have to bring something to the table which Pac simply doesnt have.

he can say that he have the staff to do the work for him, yeah sure, it is still different if he himself can do the work, right? as what most of us are thinkng, he will just be a puppet or a mascot of the government, they would probably lay down the paper works for him to sign without knowing what it is or what it is for.

but i wouldnt be surprised if he indeed wins the coming elections, the thinking-people are simply overrun by the gullibles.



Perhaps, but what alternatives he can look beyond politics? It is iffy to spend an unimaginable amount of cash on some businesses, I don't know if he could do that...unless his pedigree is Ayala or Sy or Tan (Filipino tycoons). Invest in the stock market, if he's canny enough.

Land? Yeah, probably he could buy an island if he wanted to.

He could migrate to the States and stay there. Sing with April Boy Regino (****ty singer who left the Philippines, thank God.).

Yes, he may end up being an absentee congressman for all I care, but at least he would focus on his constituents, even if he's on the road.

Fellas, if the economic situation in the Philippines isn't as ****ty as the rest of the world, say, the US or China, then Pacquiao would've placed his faith in the politicos and the govt. into doing their ACTUAL jobs. But the thing is, it isn't going to improve anytime soon, and it's only logical for Pacquiao to enter politics not only because of good intentions for his province-mates, but rather acquire a blanket of protection on his hard-earned earnings and investments.

Surrounding himself with politicians early in his career was the first major clue he's leaning into politics.

LeeVanCleef
04-20-2010, 12:44 PM
i dont think he is bright enough to think that way... i say it is more of leeches surrounding him branwashing him to do that.

showbiz is a different discussion though, sure he can enter showbiz, but at least people can choose not to watch :)

Yeah, let's just watch Pinay nip-slips then!

LeeVanCleef
04-20-2010, 12:46 PM
i don't even like his choices in sports teams.

why would i want him making more serious decisions?

Well at least the Celtics are on their way out in the 2nd round. :D

Dick Buffman
04-20-2010, 01:08 PM
Well at least the Celtics are on their way out in the 2nd round. :D

even the celtics know they ain't going anywhere.

they pulled that paul pierce injury stunt in the 1st round instead of the finals.

LeeVanCleef
04-20-2010, 01:14 PM
even the celtics know they ain't going anywhere.

they pulled that paul pierce injury stunt in the 1st round instead of the finals.

I'm voting Pierce for Best Sequel by a Bad Actor.
Garnett for Best Impersonation of a Gorilla about to be Poached.
Allen for a Jesus Shuttlesworth is a better character than Ray Allen...oh wait :D

And Nate Robinson for Best NBA Mascot.

Dick Buffman
04-20-2010, 01:55 PM
lakers 106 thunder 83

Chadmack
04-20-2010, 03:23 PM
Perhaps, but what alternatives he can look beyond politics? It is iffy to spend an unimaginable amount of cash on some businesses, I don't know if he could do that...unless his pedigree is Ayala or Sy or Tan (Filipino tycoons). Invest in the stock market, if he's canny enough.

Land? Yeah, probably he could buy an island if he wanted to.

He could migrate to the States and stay there. Sing with April Boy Regino (****ty singer who left the Philippines, thank God.).

Yes, he may end up being an absentee congressman for all I care, but at least he would focus on his constituents, even if he's on the road.

Fellas, if the economic situation in the Philippines isn't as ****ty as the rest of the world, say, the US or China, then Pacquiao would've placed his faith in the politicos and the govt. into doing their ACTUAL jobs. But the thing is, it isn't going to improve anytime soon, and it's only logical for Pacquiao to enter politics not only because of good intentions for his province-mates, but rather acquire a blanket of protection on his hard-earned earnings and investments.

Surrounding himself with politicians early in his career was the first major clue he's leaning into politics.
i get where you are coming from... i guess better intentions count rather than having traditional politicians that rob us big time. but still, i wish he could stay in the local position instead....

but then again, i dont want Manny to end up being a corrupt politician.... i wish he just enters the sports commission and help other athletes where he can contribute greatly. that's just me though..

project xxx1
04-20-2010, 06:06 PM
im not a Filipino but if i was then i would vote for him,i think he has good intensions and why not?most politicians are courrpt anyway why not give manny a chance,i dont think hes running for president (sorry for the ignorance im just not sure)id like to see manny win,i think it would be inspirational for all the poor people to see one of thier own from a poor backround has acheived so much through very hard work. VOTE MANNY :headbang::headbang::headbang:

tesla_power
04-20-2010, 07:30 PM
I don't vote simple because I feel politics are games for children. But if I could, he would have it. The means and intention are there. By being a "celebrated Filipino hero", the public would keep him in check or at least keep whatever he has in his sleeve to a minimum.

He is no saint.But you would probably get a saint for every 10000 politicians . lolz.

I don't buy that he doesn't have the brains to be a good politician. He speaks carabao english and surround himself with people that robs him blind which often leads to the notion that he is dimwitted. This can be attributed though to his trustful nature and his early years of not being able to afford an education. His trustful nature is one that I do worry about though. I practice the same thing and often got problem because of it. At least my wife is often at my case if a scenario like this comes up. :D. I'm still doing this because a lot of good happens when we trust people. The bad thing comes along every now and then but we often magnify the bad. So, this often cancels out the good on practicing trust.

IMO, base on his principles inside the ring or training plus his underrated business sense, he is certainly around above average in the thinking department. He also has confidence on what he does and has a clear sense of what he wants to do. Even has the gal to say that he taught his mother how to act. Lolz. More so, Pac earned his right to office on his own. He was not born on a political or influential family. Using his fists, he outright just grabbed the world by throat to make it listen. A self made man, IMO, is better than 95% of Philippine politician.

If he associate himself with the likes of Chavit, fine. Just don't do what they do, be his own man when it comes to decision making, he should make a good politician.

uragon ako
04-20-2010, 09:48 PM
Congressman Emmanuel Dapidran Pacquiao - APPROVED http://www.spookyigloo.net/spooky/images/smilies/tup.gif!

Why I want him to win the congressional seat is just simple? CHANGE!

Many of you here criticized him as non educated, no place in politics and most of all stupid. Well, you see most of our current lawmakers are from wealthy clan of traditional politician, they are well educated from prestigious foreign university. But you see for the past two decades, Philippines is still one of the highest rated in corruption.

baracuda
04-20-2010, 10:25 PM
hell ****ing NO!

alexpz
04-20-2010, 10:50 PM
I won't.. I just hope Manny would lose this coming May election.

Amazinger
04-21-2010, 11:53 AM
Congressman Emmanuel Dapidran Pacquiao - APPROVED http://www.spookyigloo.net/spooky/images/smilies/tup.gif!

Why I want him to win the congressional seat is just simple? CHANGE!

Many of you here criticized him as non educated, no place in politics and most of all stupid. Well, you see most of our current lawmakers are from wealthy clan of traditional politician, they are well educated from prestigious foreign university. But you see for the past two decades, Philippines is still one of the highest rated in corruption.



You will vote for him for the sake of change?...into what,what kind of change he will do.What can he contribute in congress?. Yes Pacquiao can surround himself with good people,lawmakers and others.But the core is the person.He is the one signing,voting for any law that will need to be passed.They are there just to advise him and they may even desuade him to sign or vote for a law that is not beneficial to the republic and it's people.
Manny is good and could win on local politics from city councillor,mayor and even up to gubernatorial.but Congress! it will be too much for his plate.I am not trying to put him down here.I am just being realistic on what theduty and responsiblity of this office is all about.

He can help more people if he start any advocacies and not tarnish his name at the same time.

11wordisbond
04-21-2010, 02:10 PM
Manny needs to stay away from politics until his career is completely over.

uragon ako
04-21-2010, 09:19 PM
You will vote for him for the sake of change?...into what,what kind of change he will do.What can he contribute in congress?. Yes Pacquiao can surround himself with good people,lawmakers and others.But the core is the person.He is the one signing,voting for any law that will need to be passed.They are there just to advise him and they may even desuade him to sign or vote for a law that is not beneficial to the republic and it's people.
Manny is good and could win on local politics from city councillor,mayor and even up to gubernatorial.but Congress! it will be too much for his plate.I am not trying to put him down here.I am just being realistic on what theduty and responsiblity of this office is all about.

He can help more people if he start any advocacies and not tarnish his name at the same time.

Bro, I know what you're trying to say. Believed me I already contemplated thoroughly what you and others been thinking about Pacquiao's role in politics. But, why criticized the man of his shortcomings? He ain't a congressman and yet most of the people here already crucified him.
Like I said in the previous post, most of the current lawmakers came from high society wealthy clans, lawyers educated in prestigious foreign universities and most but not all seasoned trapo's. Why not belabour and ask them what you want, and just support the guy for change? Manny is not intellectually gifted but the guy can move mountains.
For more than three ****ing decade, the Philippines stinks and still on a downward spiral due to corruption. Just look at Vietnam and Korea, they experienced civil wars, bomb by US and yet they already overtaken the Philippines.

High Octane
04-22-2010, 02:38 AM
il just let him stay in the ring....

no votes for me....

tanibanana
04-22-2010, 05:37 AM
This question is tough considering I have'nt been to Sarangani & I don't know what Chiongbian has done in his tenure.. However, assuming Pac is against a decent, say not your average congressman, I probably won't vote for him.. But if he's against a corrupt Congressman, he should get the win...

Koolafu
04-22-2010, 06:41 AM
No and NO..

Amazinger
04-22-2010, 09:57 AM
Bro, I know what you're trying to say. Believed me I already contemplated thoroughly what you and others been thinking about Pacquiao's role in politics. But, why criticized the man of his shortcomings? He ain't a congressman and yet most of the people here already crucified him.
Like I said in the previous post, most of the current lawmakers came from high society wealthy clans, lawyers educated in prestigious foreign universities and most but not all seasoned trapo's. Why not belabour and ask them what you want, and just support the guy for change? Manny is not intellectually gifted but the guy can move mountains.
For more than three ****ing decade, the Philippines stinks and still on a downward spiral due to corruption. Just look at Vietnam and Korea, they experienced civil wars, bomb by US and yet they already overtaken the Philippines.


Pare I just don't agree with"change for the sake of change".With regards to politics yes some of them are handed down from generation to generation,But there are newer faces to came out from time to time and they fell on the sideline when they tried to implement some radical or new laws from lack of support.but don't get me wrong some do triumph and managed to get through.but alas! the country still struggle against corruptions.Manny can do more for the people outside of politics in my opinion rather than in it.Especially being a congressman,in which he will be dissuaded to the party's will.(In which I believe and it should be a non partisan's agenda but rather for populations well being).

Governorship I think will be Manny's best bet to help out the people of his riding.Since he can and will be able to control the in's and out of almost every sector in his area of responsibility.

Cheers!:biggthump