View Full Version : [LMAO!] What more proof do you need that Henderson is not the best wrestler in MMA?


TheNegation
04-18-2010, 12:57 AM
Seriously. He was taken down multiple times by a guy who isn't even anywhere near his level of wrestling credentials. He was mounted more times than Jenna haze....















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hateinyaeyes32
04-18-2010, 01:08 AM
Seriously. He was taken down multiple times by a guy who isn't even anywhere near his level of wrestling credentials. He was mounted more times than Jenna haze....















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Whoever thought Hendo was the best wrestler in MMA was dropped on their head as a baby

-Swizzy-
04-18-2010, 01:26 AM
I don't know if anyone thought he was the best wrestler, but he is a very good one. the reason he was taken down and handled so much was because he gassed out. he apparenlty had a very hard time cutting weight for this fight... he was something like 15pounds over the limit a week before the fight...that coupled with his age(39), made him weak and easy to take down. Sheilds couldn't do **** in the first round and the beginning of the 2nd round.

kaps
04-18-2010, 01:32 AM
Hendo has been taken down by fighters with lesser credintials in the past, not suprising here. I will say the 1 punch Hendo landed in first round did more damage than all of Sheilds punches combined....

F l i c k e r
04-18-2010, 01:51 AM
Seeing how this was directed towards me indirectly. I will answer with this.....



I was wrong.


Happy?


Goodnight. (not as in go to sleep, as in have a good night for the rest of the night. lol)

TheNegation
04-18-2010, 01:53 AM
Seeing how this was directed towards me indirectly. I will answer with this.....



I was wrong.


Happy?


Goodnight. (not as in go to sleep, as in have a good night for the rest of the night. lol)


Sorry I'm a dick and I'm a little drujnk too

Dice
04-18-2010, 03:11 AM
GSP is a beast dont get me wrong, but Cain Velazquez, Chael Sonnen, Brock Lesnar, there are a few that are better wrestlers, but given the fact that GSP isnt even a wrestler, it makes him look more amazing

kaps
04-18-2010, 03:16 AM
GSP is a beast dont get me wrong, but Cain Velazquez, Chael Sonnen, Brock Lesnar, there are a few that are better wrestlers, but given the fact that GSP isnt even a wrestler, it makes him look more amazing

Kos, Fitch, Sherk, Hughes, and Trigg where all supposed to be better wrestlers than GSP too remember....

$BloodyNate$
04-18-2010, 03:32 AM
Kos, Fitch, Sherk, Hughes, and Trigg where all supposed to be better wrestlers than GSP too remember....

I think Kos is a better wrestler then GSP. Amateur wise. I pick Kos 9 out of 10 times in a traditional wrestling match. GSP is IMO the best wrestling MMA wise though. His is just tailor made and perfect for the sport. I just don't think he'd do all the great if he did go into the Olympics. Wrestling MMAwise and traditional wrestling our 2 different monsters IMO.

jakkups
04-18-2010, 09:55 AM
I think Kos is a better wrestler then GSP. Amateur wise. I pick Kos 9 out of 10 times in a traditional wrestling match. GSP is IMO the best wrestling MMA wise though. His is just tailor made and perfect for the sport. I just don't think he'd do all the great if he did go into the Olympics. Wrestling MMAwise and traditional wrestling our 2 different monsters IMO.

I agree with this. GSP is effective because his striking is good enough to keep you honest and not know when the takedown is coming.

I don't think he is the best wrestler because in wrestling alone he hasn't proved to be. However, I do believe he is one of the best at implementing wrestling techniques effectively into MMA. Plus his athletic gifts help out alot in implementing this. If he wasn't the athlete he is, he wouldn't be nearly as effective as he is.

Left2theliver
04-18-2010, 02:21 PM
This fight showed that credentials aren't the be all end all of MMA

1 on 1
04-18-2010, 02:23 PM
Kind of off topic, I think the current version of Cung Le has a legit shot at beating Dan Henderson. I mean, Dan Henderson, with the exception of the two hard shots he landed in the first round(which is probably more of case of Shields having big-fight jitters in front of a national t.v. audience) simply could not get off.

I mean, he bit on Shield's slow @ss jabs and feints, what more against a world-class striker like Le, who you know Henderson is gonna have to chase down. This is the thing about Henderson, his stand-up I've always felt was complete sh*t, he has a great right-hand, extremely tough and a great chin and an a solid clinch game. But, he's gonna have difficulty cutting that distance down against an excellent striker like Le.

Le, coming off that devastating loss, is probably even gonna be more defensive and simply pot-shot with kicks and use his excellent footwork to keep the one-dimensional Hendo off of him.

kaps
04-18-2010, 02:26 PM
I think Kos is a better wrestler then GSP. Amateur wise. I pick Kos 9 out of 10 times in a traditional wrestling match. GSP is IMO the best wrestling MMA wise though. His is just tailor made and perfect for the sport. I just don't think he'd do all the great if he did go into the Olympics. Wrestling MMAwise and traditional wrestling our 2 different monsters IMO.


Kos could not get GSP down once and GSP took him down at will....

$BloodyNate$
04-18-2010, 11:02 PM
Kos could not get GSP down once and GSP took him down at will....

Before that fight GSP was not known as this sick amazing wrestler as he is now. Kos was expecting a striking war and just started going back to his wrestling roots lately, his main focus was his striking for the longest time because he thought his wrestling was good enough for anybody. Not to mention GSP is the most versatile fighter in all of MMA. he mixes everything up greatly like someone already said so you don't expect the takedown until your on your back.

TheNegation
04-18-2010, 11:34 PM
Before that fight GSP was not known as this sick amazing wrestler as he is now. Kos was expecting a striking war and just started going back to his wrestling roots lately, his main focus was his striking for the longest time because he thought his wrestling was good enough for anybody. Not to mention GSP is the most versatile fighter in all of MMA. he mixes everything up greatly like someone already said so you don't expect the takedown until your on your back.

Well he had outwrestled BJ, Sherk and Trigg prior to his fight with Koscheck, so it wasn't that much of a mystery

$BloodyNate$
04-19-2010, 12:12 AM
Well he had outwrestled BJ, Sherk and Trigg prior to his fight with Koscheck, so it wasn't that much of a mystery

Yeah but that was the first fight were wrestling became his main thing. Before that he stood and got raped by Serra which made him switch to just wanting to wrestle most of the time, and before that he stood with Hughes for 3 rounds.

Dice
04-19-2010, 01:39 AM
Trigg Josh Koscheck Sean Sherk are not even Rashad Evans in wrestling let alone Brock Lesnar, but this aint wrestling its MMA, and GSP is kickin a$$ like no ones biznuss

Virgil Caine
04-19-2010, 09:30 AM
I'm sort of surprised no one is mentioning a certain 4x National Freestyle champ in King Mo.

Yeah, I'm perhaps riding the bandwagon a bit, but Mo is not one to be ignored by any means when it comes to the best wrestler discussion imo.

On a side note, I haven't even had a chance to see the fight yet. I caught parts of the Aoki and Hendo fights via stream, but I've been busy the last few days. I'm downloading the event right now though.

jakkups
04-19-2010, 10:10 AM
I'm sort of surprised no one is mentioning a certain 4x National Freestyle champ in King Mo.

Yeah, I'm perhaps riding the bandwagon a bit, but Mo is not one to be ignored by any means when it comes to the best wrestler discussion imo.

On a side note, I haven't even had a chance to see the fight yet. I caught parts of the Aoki and Hendo fights via stream, but I've been busy the last few days. I'm downloading the event right now though.

King Mo is defo up there, as is his teammate Joe Warren IMO.