Who do you think would win in this matchup.

I think I will go with Hatton KO 1.

judah is superior in every which way, zab wont fight like zoo which allowed hatton to fight his fight. zab by UD

judah is superior in every which way, zab wont fight like zoo which allowed hatton to fight his fight. zab by UD

No way is Judah going to be able to go the distance with Hatton. And like I said if Hatton was not KO'd or staggered by some of Tzyu countershots nothing Judah can do to him is going to slow him down.

Who do you think would win in this matchup.


I think some people are way too high off of Hatton's win over KT. Judah will soundly beat Hatton by mid to late stoppage. He's too fast, he will outhustle Hatton and brutalize him from outside.

I think some people are way too high off of Hatton's win over KT. Judah will soundly beat Hatton by mid to late stoppage. He's too fast, he will outhustle Hatton and brutalize him from outside.

He is too fast? Being fast aint going help you from being bullied to the ropes and pounded the body and pouded with uppercuts. I would have to say Tzyu has a better defence than Judah and Hatton was able to land clean shots on him all night long to the body and head.

This is why Judah wont fight Margarito. Judah is gonna destroyed by any these pressure type fighters that can a punch and have good stamina.

u kidding me
judah rips him apart at 147
and takes him out at 140 also
judahs to quick strong and just plain better
hatton would just walk right into judahs quick counters
Judah by KO

u kidding me
judah rips him apart at 147
and takes him out at 140 also
judahs to quick strong and just plain better
hatton would just walk right into judahs quick counters
Judah by KO

So Judah is better and harder counterpuncher than Kostya Tzyu....lolol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!

Judah by big KO.

He's a much more solid fighter now and is carrying weight and power very well at 147.

Judah has very fast feet and good foot work he will not allow Hatton to get close. His speed will frustrate Hatton with his speed and eventually knock him out. TKO in 8

The counterpunching stategy will NEVER work against Hatton. The only way to beat him if your in Manchester in that small ring is to stand in front of him and FIGHT him. I think of the current fighters at 140 pound weight class Arturo Gatti is most qualified for this task.

The counterpunching stategy will NEVER work against Hatton. The only way to beat him if your in Manchester in that small ring is to stand in front of him and FIGHT him. I think of the current fighters at 140 pound weight class Arturo Gatti is most qualified for this task.


lmfao, you think Gatti has a better chance against Hatton than Judah?

Mayweather fans and Judah fans go together like bees and honey. No surprise the guy named Mayweather thinks Judah will win.


Why because they're both tremendous talents that many people would select to outclass most brawlers?

Why are you jumping all over people's answers, if you don't like hearing people's takes, why start this thread?

Aren't you the authority who was telling everyone about what a class fighter Andrew Golota was?

I think Judah would demolish him. He would out maneuver him and knock him out. He is bigger, stronger, faster, smarter, better, and has faced twenty times the level of opposition.

Hatton would beat Judah, he couldnt handle the pressure and work rate of Hatton, his defence isnt good enough going backwards. Hatton is bigger and much stronger than him and Judah only has power in one punch, the straight left, Hatton has power in everything he throws.

I respect Judah a lot as a fighter but as a styles match i he probably the easiest i've heard as a possible Hatton opponent. Like i said i think Judahs a good fighhter but I think he'd suffer a beat down agaisnt this type of opponent.

Ask Kostya Tszyu who he thinks would win. :

McKay,

You are a little too excited about Hatton.

Hatton hasn't yet fought a cute fighter that is going to pot shot him and then run away for three minutes per round.

There is a very good chance that he can fight Judah or PBF in the next year or so, so you will get your chance to see it.

Some of Hatton's agression was not effective against a 35 year old Tyszu, and it may be even less effective if Judah is countering and moving well.

Hattons much stronger than him and Judah only has power in one punch, the straight left, Hatton has power in everything he throws.


I disagree. I think Judah is stronger....and as a matter of fact...his left straight is not his best punch. His uppercutt is.

McKay,

You are a little too excited about Hatton.

Hatton hasn't yet fought a cute fighter that is going to pot shot him and then run away for three minutes per round.

There is a very good chance that he can fight Judah or PBF in the next year or so, so you will get your chance to see it.

Some of Hatton's agression was not effective against a 35 year old Tyszu, and it may be even less effective if Judah is countering and moving well.

That **** does not work in the small ring in Manchester. You try running around and Hatton just runs at you and drives you to the ropes. Like I said the only way you beat Hatton in Manchester. Is you Stand right in front of him, and FIGHT him, and dont let him bully you around, dont let him dictate. Only Arturo Gatti can fight like this. Hatton can land clean shots on Gatti, it is not going to back Gatti up. Gatti will stand there take the shots and then bring some of his own.

I disagree. I think Judah is stronger....and as a matter of fact...his left straight is not his best punch. His uppercutt is.

I just cant see it, i've watched Judah so many times and i think Hattons the stronger fighter. I've seen him throw the uppercut and its good but he's always looking to throw the straight left.

Spinks is a decent fighter but i think people read a lot more into that win that than Hattons win over Tsyzu.

So Judah is better and harder counterpuncher than Kostya Tzyu....lolol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!
at 147
hell ya
plus hes faster
so the shots may surprise hatton more too
hes def a better counter puncher den tszyu

I think I will go with Hatton KO 1.
U must be smoking rock. :rolleyes:

Hatton would beat Judah, he couldnt handle the pressure and work rate of Hatton, his defence isnt good enough going backwards. Hatton is bigger and much stronger than him and Judah only has power in one punch, the straight left, Hatton has power in everything he throws.

I respect Judah a lot as a fighter but as a styles match i he probably the easiest i've heard as a possible Hatton opponent. Like i said i think Judahs a good fighhter but I think he'd suffer a beat down agaisnt this type of opponent.

Ask Kostya Tszyu who he thinks would win. :
dont use the one handed fighter excuse
specially when ur talkin about ricky "left hook" hatton
Lol

How on earth do you assume that the UNDISPUTED Welterweight Champion is going to go to the UK to fight the 140lb champion?

Not only would the fight not be in the UK, wherever in the US it would be would see a referee that wouldn't allow the pushing, grabbing, rabbit punching, and fore arm mashing.

Judah is too elusive, to fast, and too powerful a puncher.

He's weighing in the mid 150's at fight time, and is a very solid welterwieght now.

at 147
hell ya
plus hes faster
so the shots may surprise hatton more too
hes def a better counter puncher den tszyu

Again my only response to this rubbish is.

lol!!!!!!!!exclamation. Tzyu is the strongest, best, most accurate counterpuncher in the world at 140. Judah is no where near his class when it comes to counterpunching. Nobody is going to beat Hatton with the counterpunching stategy. If Tzyu can not do it, nobody can. Barring that James Toney cuts off a limb and comes down the 140 pound weight class.

dont use the one handed fighter excuse
specially when ur talkin about ricky "left hook" hatton
Lol

Ha ha, Hatton throws a lot of different shots. You have to admit Judah is always loading up that left hand.

Again my only response to this rubbish is.

lol!!!!!!!!exclamation. Tzyu is the strongest, best, most accurate counterpuncher in the world at 140. Judah is no where near his class when it comes to counterpunching. Nobody is going to beat Hatton with the counterpunching stategy. If Tzyu can not do it, nobody can. Barring that James Toney cuts off a limb and comes down the 140 pound weight class.
didnt u set this fantasy fight at 147?
and plus
KT isnt the best counterpuncher?
where the fuk did u get that from

Ha ha, Hatton throws a lot of different shots. You have to admit Judah is always loading up that left hand.
judah loads up on the strait left
but still mixes in the jab n lead hook with good effect
hatton loads up on his left hook
but still throw other punches too with good effect
so to me
their basicly the same
if ones one handed
so is the other
judahs lead right whether jabbin or hookin isnt some incredible punch
but its makes its present felt
hattons right is the same
nothin special but u know its their

How on earth do you assume that the UNDISPUTED Welterweight Champion is going to go to the UK to fight the 140lb champion?

Not only would the fight not be in the UK, wherever in the US it would be would see a referee that wouldn't allow the pushing, grabbing, rabbit punching, and fore arm mashing.

Judah is too elusive, to fast, and too powerful a puncher.

He's weighing in the mid 150's at fight time, and is a very solid welterwieght now.

Its doesnt really matter where the fight is, UK or US a rings and ring.

I wouldnt be suprised if Hatton weight mid 150's on fight night now, infact i think he does. If he was at 147 he'd be much bigger than Judah.

Its doesnt really matter where the fight is, UK or US a rings and ring.

I wouldnt be suprised if Hatton weight mid 150's on fight night now, infact i think he does. If he was at 147 he'd be much bigger than Judah.
that i just dont believe at all
judah has one punch KO power even at 147
from what ive seen of hatton
and ill admit isnt alot
ive probably seen about 4 or 5 fights of his
but he doesnt have one punch power
hes like chavez
just brakes u down with the smashin left to the body
just attacking

Its doesnt really matter where the fight is, UK or US a rings and ring.

I wouldnt be suprised if Hatton weight mid 150's on fight night now, infact i think he does. If he was at 147 he'd be much bigger than Judah.

The size of the ring and the locale makes a huge difference. Especially the size of the ring. Especially if your fighter like Hatton a small ring favors you. If you are mover like Jones, or Mayweather or Judah a large favors you. The Locale is also something that is important. The Intensity in Level in Manchester arena at 2 oclock in the morning is something you donthave in Las Vegas at 8 olock at night. Also Hatton probably gets a psychological edge fighting in his home town compared to visiting fighters.

judah loads up on the strait left
but still mixes in the jab n lead hook with good effect
hatton loads up on his left hook
but still throw other punches too with good effect
so to me
their basicly the same
if ones one handed
so is the other
judahs lead right whether jabbin or hookin isnt some incredible punch
but its makes its present felt
hattons right is the same
nothin special but u know its their

If this fight happens remind me to bet against you, i doubt it will but if it does...

Anyone fighting Hatton will have probably because he's ruthless and has a good chin, he fights every minute of every round so Judah would have a tough fight, anyone would.

The way i see it the styles suit Hatton, but people see styles differently so its all good.

Its doesnt really matter where the fight is, UK or US a rings and ring.


When people are mentioning that Hatton's going to bully Judah around like he was allowed to do to Tszyu, where the fight is definatly matters.

Judah is much better now at 147 than he was at 140.

Hatton had a good win over Tszyu, but he has a lot left to prove.

Some of you guys are going overboard with this hype.

Being so certian he's going to knock out the Welterweight champion is a bit premature.

When people are mentioning that Hatton's going to bully Judah around like he was allowed to do to Tszyu, where the fight is definatly matters.

Judah is much better now at 147 than he was at 140.

Hatton had a good win over Tszyu, but he has a lot left to prove.

Some of you guys are going overboard with this hype.

Being so certian he's going to knock out the Welterweight champion is a bit premature.

Judah is too fragile to fight Hatton. He would straight out get destroyed by Hatton. Hatton was walking threw Tzyu's power shots. Dont try to tell me that Judah hits harder than Tzyu. AT THE END OF THE DAY JUDAH IS JUST WAYYY TO FRAGILE TO FIGHT HATTON IN MANCHESTER IN THAT RING.

When people are mentioning that Hatton's going to bully Judah around like he was allowed to do to Tszyu, where the fight is definatly matters.

Judah is much better now at 147 than he was at 140.

Hatton had a good win over Tszyu, but he has a lot left to prove.

Some of you guys are going overboard with this hype.

Being so certian he's going to knock out the Welterweight champion is a bit premature.

What are Judah's last 3 fights? lets see. Loosing to Spinks by UD. Beating Spinks by TKO. and beating the jouneyman Cosme Rivera. How impressive. Compared to a TKO win over Kostya Tzyu who TKO'd Judah in the second round. Get your head together, you psychos.

If this fight happens remind me to bet against you, i doubt it will but if it does...

Anyone fighting Hatton will have probably because he's ruthless and has a good chin, he fights every minute of every round so Judah would have a tough fight, anyone would.

The way i see it the styles suit Hatton, but people see styles differently so its all good.
ya
i can see what ur arguring
and if i liked hatton
i could see hatton winning easy
but like ya said
it just depends what styles u like
and i think judahs more polished counterpunch style would be suited perfect to pick apart a guy that just comes in

Judah is too fragile to fight Hatton. He would straight out get destroyed by Hatton. Hatton was walking threw Tzyu's power shots. Dont try to tell me that Judah hits harder than Tzyu. AT THE END OF THE DAY JUDAH IS JUST WAYYY TO FRAGILE TO FIGHT HATTON IN MANCHESTER IN THAT RING.
do u think ricky would make the trip to brooklyn?

The size of the ring and the locale makes a huge difference. Especially the size of the ring. Especially if your fighter like Hatton a small ring favors you. If you are mover like Jones, or Mayweather or Judah a large favors you. The Locale is also something that is important. The Intensity in Level in Manchester arena at 2 oclock in the morning is something you donthave in Las Vegas at 8 olock at night. Also Hatton probably gets a psychological edge fighting in his home town compared to visiting fighters.

I understand your point but if Judah was fighting in Manchester he'd ask for a bigger ring than Hatton normally fights in, he'd do the same in the US.

Your probably right about the fans, from what i've seen Judah doesnt have that type of a following so the hate wouldnt motivate him. If Hatton was fighting in the US against Gatti, i'm sure with his attitude Hatton would react to the hate like he does to his fans at home.

Judah is too fragile to fight Hatton. He would straight out get destroyed by Hatton. Hatton was walking threw Tzyu's power shots. Dont try to tell me that Judah hits harder than Tzyu. AT THE END OF THE DAY JUDAH IS JUST WAYYY TO FRAGILE TO FIGHT HATTON IN MANCHESTER IN THAT RING.


Once again, to assume the Undisputed Welterweight champion of the world is going to travel to Manchester to fight the 140lb champion in his own back yard is pretty laughable.

IF Hatton was to step up to Welterweight to fight Judah (very unlikely) it would most certianly be in the US. That would mean there wouldn't be a British referee catering to Hatton's rough housing.

to a TKO win over Kostya Tzyu who TKO'd Judah in the second round. Get your head together, you psychos.

That's the most overplayed ignorant garbage logic when discussing potential fights and you know it.

It's useless saying because one fighter beats antother he's automaticlly going to beat every fighter the other has ever faced. That's absurd.

Styles make fights, and every situation is different.

All you're doing is feeding into Hatton being over hyped.

Lets see how he does vs the rest of the top 140lbers (best divsion in boxing) before claiming with certianty he's going to KO the undisputed welterweight champion.

ya
i can see what ur arguring
and if i liked hatton
i could see hatton winning easy
but like ya said
it just depends what styles u like
and i think judahs more polished counterpunch style would be suited perfect to pick apart a guy that just comes in

If anyone has a perfect style to beat Hatton it was Magee, he's a puncher, great counter puncher and is one of the toughest fighters i've ever seen. He's not well known in the US because he's very lazy and would rather have a pint of beer than train, but when he faced Hatton he was in great shape and caused him a few problems so i can see how you might think a good counter puncher could beat Hatton.

Part of the reason i think Hatton would beat Judah is because his mental game is so much better, i think Hatton is more hungry and Judahs just in it for the ego. If Judah fought in Manchester in Hatton's normal size ring with 22,000 wanting him dead i dont think he'd be able to cope with that.

Once again, to assume the Undisputed .

Well you have your opinion. I have mine. I think Hatton KO 1 Judah. You are free however to maintain whatever delusions you desire. ;)

If anyone has a perfect style to beat Hatton it was Magee, he's a puncher, great counter puncher and is one of the toughest fighters i've ever seen. He's not well known in the US because he's very lazy and would rather have a pint of beer than train, but when he faced Hatton he was in great shape and caused him a few problems so i can see how you might think a good counter puncher could beat Hatton.

Part of the reason i think Hatton would beat Judah is because his mental game is so much better, i think Hatton is more hungry and Judahs just in it for the ego. If Judah fought in Manchester in Hatton's normal size ring with 22,000 wanting him dead i dont think he'd be able to cope with that.

I would go with Hatton but if Judah is disciplined this could be a pick 'em fight....In the Magee fight when HAtton went down he didn't look hurt...looked more like a flash knockdown...seems like Hatton can take a punch (I never got why people were questioning his chin)..I think Judah has the weaker chin out of the two but he is also a better boxer, not to mention faster.

if zab and hatton fight in britian then i would pick hatton to win because the ref would allow the same holding and hitting,elbowing,hitting behind the head,ect...to go on.zab wouldnt have a chance.if it is fought in the staes then i pick zab to win by UD,zab is to fast and ring smart for hattons one style of fighting.zab would just stay on the outside and pick him off.no way does hatton over here get away with half the **** he pulls in his back yard.i have a better question .....how bad would mayweather beat hatton?i would see this fight as a winky-tito beating.mayweather would dominate from round 1 to round 12.

Once again, to assume the Undisputed Welterweight champion of the world is going to travel to Manchester to fight the 140lb champion in his own back yard is pretty laughable.
.

Yeah....McKay and I went through the same thing with Gatti. He claimed Judah was a sissy for not fighting him. My only claim was: Judah would not give up his undisputed titles in order to move down in weight and fight the lesser fighter.

Same applies with Hatton. This is getting really laughable.

If anyone has a perfect style to beat Hatton it was Magee, he's a puncher, great counter puncher and is one of the toughest fighters i've ever seen. He's not well known in the US because he's very lazy and would rather have a pint of beer than train, but when he faced Hatton he was in great shape and caused him a few problems so i can see how you might think a good counter puncher could beat Hatton.

Part of the reason i think Hatton would beat Judah is because his mental game is so much better, i think Hatton is more hungry and Judahs just in it for the ego. If Judah fought in Manchester in Hatton's normal size ring with 22,000 wanting him dead i dont think he'd be able to cope with that.
i dont think thatd affect him too much
i mean he just took the title in spinks backyard
granted spinks hometown isnt as krazee about him as u guys are about hatton but still
it was pretty krazee in their fro spinks
judahs def in it for ego
but hes still hungry to make us believe in what he sees in himself
the judah that beat rivera was great
he was in thier to handle his business
the b4 judah would show boated and wasted alot of time
i think hes matured since winning the belts from spinks

alot of guys are like that
once they got those belts
they just change
whole new focus
whole new attitude

I know you guys from across the pond have some great fighters, But you all said kosta was gonna take Hatton! that didn't happen. Kosta was and still is a great fighter on the night he was fit and he got beat fair and square as I see it.. And I believe the Hitman has a good chance of winning against anyone. He is gonna get better, He needs to learn to slip a few punches though but that aint no biggie. He will be the British LEGEND... BAR NONE.. Give respect where it is due.. Damn some stupid people on here

i dont think thatd affect him too much
i mean he just took the title in spinks backyard
granted spinks hometown isnt as krazee about him as u guys are about hatton but still
it was pretty krazee in their fro spinks
judahs def in it for ego
but hes still hungry to make us believe in what he sees in himself
the judah that beat rivera was great
he was in thier to handle his business
the b4 judah would show boated and wasted alot of time
i think hes matured since winning the belts from spinks

alot of guys are like that
once they got those belts
they just change
whole new focus
whole new attitude

I hope so because i like watching Judah, i dont expect him to ever fight Hatton anyway.

Even Tsyzu was nervous walking into the M.E.N, whenever i've been its been ****ing electric, i've had my fair share of court appearances and i've its exactly the same type of people there as it is at the M.E.N, thugs and gansters. :D

I know you guys from across the pond have some great fighters, But you all said kosta was gonna take Hatton! that didn't happen.

Ok. Thats called stereotyping. Its no wonder why people here in the U.S. have their atittude towards the U.K.


He will be the British LEGEND... BAR NONE.. Give respect where it is due..

Ok....that is going a bit too far. He has a ways to go in order to surpass Lennox Lewis' legacy in the ring.


Damn some stupid people on here

Once again, thats going too far. Are people supposed to immediately start claiming Hatton is the greatest fighter in the sport? or what? Because he does not make my top 10 P4P list.

Judah will beat Hatton by UD I think. This fight won't be made unless it's in the U.S.

Judah's movement should neutralize Hatton's aggression, then it's all about who hits harder and Judah is the harder puncher.

Hatton has a good chance to upset Judah though, but I like Judah.

I hope so because i like watching Judah, i dont expect him to ever fight Hatton anyway.

Even Tsyzu was nervous walking into the M.E.N, whenever i've been its been ****ing electric, i've had my fair share of court appearances and i've its exactly the same type of people there as it is at the M.E.N, thugs and gansters. :D
i didnt get to see the entrance
ran to the store to get some snacks
made it in just as they were goin over the final rules
but if tszyu was shaken up
maybe it would affect judah

course i dont know if judah being from brooklyn
aint use to seeing tought crowds himself

i didnt get to see the entrance
ran to the store to get some snacks
made it in just as they were goin over the final rules
but if tszyu was shaken up
maybe it would affect judah

course i dont know if judah being from brooklyn
aint use to seeing tought crowds himself

Its diffenent types of tough areas, if you put me in the M.E.N along side anyone i'll feel at home but if i was in Tijuana or Philly i wouldnt feel at home, infact i'd probably be ****ting myself!! Take Judah out of Brooklyn and put him in with thugs he's not used to its bound to effect him.

Tszyu was effected when he first walked out, you couldnt hear his music for the screaming and he looked nervous. But with a fighter like Tsyzu it takes him a few minutes to calm his nerves and it makes him stronger, Maybe Judah would be the same.

Its diffenent types of tough areas, if you put me in the M.E.N along side anyone i'll feel at home but if i was in Tijuana or Philly i wouldnt feel at home, infact i'd probably be ****ting myself!! Take Judah out of Brooklyn and put him in with thugs he's not used to its bound to effect him.

Tszyu was effected when he first walked out, you couldnt hear his music for the screaming and he looked nervous. But with a fighter like Tsyzu it takes him a few minutes to calm his nerves and it makes him stronger, Maybe Judah would be the same.
now lets assume ricky leaves home
nas was selling out areans too
but he knew where the real money was to be made

now lets assume ricky leaves home
nas was selling out areans too
but he knew where the real money was to be made

I think Hatton will leave for the right money, i dont think a lot people understand his situation, he's never refused to fight abroad(he's fought in the US twice) but he's gotta do what he thinks is best for his career, which until now has been selling out in Manchester. Now he's number 1 he can generate money anywhere so i'd expect him to fight in the US a few more times. He's definitely a home town boy so i think he's rather fight in Manchester than anywhere, just as long as he gets to fight in Vegas a few times.

Who do you want him to fight next?? I like the idea of Corrales, i think thats a fight they can make.

If this fight took place at 147 within the next year or so Judah would destroy Hatton.

Judah is in the prime of his career right now and is carrying 147 very well. He seems stronger and he seems like he takes a better punch at this weight. He'd carve up Hatton at this point and stop him late. Hatton has never had to deal with a fighter like Judah and quite simply the difference in skill and polish would show in this bout.

Judah wins a one-sided fight that I'd be on the edge of my seat for, while the rest of you would call it boring. Hatton is actually tough it looks like, so Judah may stop him late but it'd probably be a decision.

Who do you want him to fight next?? I like the idea of Corrales, i think thats a fight they can make.
see i dont like that at all
i mean its good for him
but i think itd be pretty one sided
i think hattons too big for him
id rather see him in against cotto
or winner of mayweather-gatti

I think I will go with Hatton KO 1.

of course cause ur a known judah hater and you can't look at a fight without being biased

No way is Judah going to be able to go the distance with Hatton. And like I said if Hatton was not KO'd or staggered by some of Tzyu countershots nothing Judah can do to him is going to slow him down.

speed = power and judah will hit hatton with something that he doesnt even see..and just cause tszyu couldnt beat hatton doenst mean other poeple cant

Yeah....McKay and I went through the same thing with Gatti. He claimed Judah was a sissy for not fighting him. My only claim was: Judah would not give up his undisputed titles in order to move down in weight and fight the lesser fighter.

Same applies with Hatton. This is getting really laughable.

judah is not moving down to 140, he said he cant make that weight anymore

The counterpunching stategy will NEVER work against Hatton. The only way to beat him if your in Manchester in that small ring is to stand in front of him and FIGHT him. I think of the current fighters at 140 pound weight class Arturo Gatti is most qualified for this task.

Mckay you are a moron learn how to analyze boxing before you start typing. I predicted a Hatton win and I think you picked Tszyu..I am a hatton fan but im not stupid enough to say that he could beat all these guys. Styles make fights and that is why he beat tszyu..people like floyd and judah would beat hatton rather easily. . Corrales would probabaly stop hatton becuase he fights better from the inside then tszyu does..There was many opportunities for tszyu to counter hatton but he just didnt seem to. Get real and stop predicting everyone to beat judah..of course you will be right one of these days if u keep sayiing judah is gonan lose...try to look at a fight without being biased please

This happens everytime , somone gets a win over a good fighter .
They seem to become invincible overnight , and people often make claims that they are badder then they really are.

Judah brutally Tags Hatton thorughout the first 6 rounds with Lighting quick Lefts.

Ko's him in the 7th


Zab Judah The future

Hatton isnt even on the same level as Zab. the two shouldnt even be said in the same sentence.

Zab WILL murder Hatton. ****, Hatton beats one tough cookie and now he can take on the world... :rolleyes:

Zab has everything over Hatton.

Hatton will not get Judah to lay on the ropes and throw. Hatton's night aginst Judah would look nothing like the Zoo fight, in that respect, and many others. First, Zab would give Hatton a ****load of movement. Second, everytime Hatton gets inside and starts to mug, Judah clinches and gets the break. Judah counters all night long and moves laterally like he can do, all night long. Judah doesn't stop Ricky, but gets a UD without too much work.

There's Ricky's punchers' chance, but his forward rush can be easy boxed-out by a guy with Judah's skills.

He is too fast? Being fast aint going help you from being bullied to the ropes and pounded the body and pouded with uppercuts. I would have to say Tzyu has a better defence than Judah and Hatton was able to land clean shots on him all night long to the body and head.

This is why Judah wont fight Margarito. Judah is gonna destroyed by any these pressure type fighters that can a punch and have good stamina.


Bullied to ropes is right.Hattons **** tactics wont fly with an even half decent ref dude.Doing so was very smart on hattons part,he was able to nutralize Tszyu,but they were still **** tactics the ref should have stopped.

I think I will go with Hatton KO 1.
Ha are you ****in serious. U must be a comedian. Hatton bullied Tszyu & by getting in close in his chest did not allow him to get extension on his straight right. Judah tryed to rush Tszyu & walked into a right hand at full extension. Hatton is not stronger & will not bully Judah. Remember also Judah fought Tszyu when he was a fighter at the top of his game & fighting every 6 mos or so. When Hatton beat him he was a 35 yr old fighter who had only fought less that 10 rounds in 2+ years. I RESPECT EVERYONES OPINION BUT IF YOU THINK HE WOULD WIN BY 1ST ROUND KO DROP THE GLASS DICK MAN.

Ha are you ****in serious. U must be a comedian. Hatton bullied Tszyu & by getting in close in his chest did not allow him to get extension on his straight right. Judah tryed to rush Tszyu & walked into a right hand at full extension. Hatton is not stronger & will not bully Judah. Remember also Judah fought Tszyu when he was a fighter at the top of his game & fighting every 6 mos or so. When Hatton beat him he was a 35 yr old fighter who had only fought less that 10 rounds in 2+ years. I RESPECT EVERYONES OPINION BUT IF YOU THINK HE WOULD WIN BY 1ST ROUND KO DROP THE GLASS DICK MAN.

So the Ref has to biased in favor the Judah and favor his fighting style in for your in mind it to be "fair fight." I think the kind of "hands off" refereeing that Dan Parris used is good refereeing personally.

LIke I have said at nauseum on this thread Judah is too fragile to hang with Hatton. He will get KO'd. Hatton would bully him around dictate and eventually KO him, probably in the first round because Hatton hits pretty hard with both hands and zab cant take punches worth ****. And Judah is not stronger than Hatton.. Judah would straight up be mauled by Hatton.

i hate when people start coming out with the same bull****, kosta was past his best my arse , kosta was in good shape and is not past his best and hatton beat him fair and square, he will give judah a good slapping, hatton is the best fighter in the world at junior welter, people just hate giving the english any respect when it comes to fighters

personally, i think most of the top 140 lb-ers could beat HATTON now...this is because they have all seen his style now and know the only way he can win.....and hatton's rough style wouldn't be as effective in the U.S as half of it is illegal...thus weakening his potency......so whoever fights him next will know what style is required to beat him.

a gatti vs hatton fight would be a potential FOY as they are both brawlers.....

mayweather, harris, judah,corralles, and tszyu II would all beat him......i'm not sure about cotto though....

personally, i think most of the top 140 lb-ers could beat HATTON now...this is because they have all seen his style now and know the only way he can win.....and hatton's rough style wouldn't be as effective in the U.S as half of it is illegal...thus weakening his potency......so whoever fights him next will know what style is required to beat him.

a gatti vs hatton fight would be a potential FOY as they are both brawlers.....

mayweather, harris, judah,corralles, and tszyu II would all beat him......i'm not sure about cotto though....

Gatti could very likely beat him in Manchester or any venue.
Judah would get mauled by him at any venue
Corrales would lose to Hatton
Tzyu maybe could beat him at any venue on a second try
Cotto probably not: Cotto is too unproven
Mayweather looses to Hatton in Manchester/wins in Las Vegas.

hatton has more than 1 style moochi, thats the most ridiculous statement i have heard, `they have all seen his style now` unbeleivable

personally, i think most of the top 140 lb-ers could beat HATTON now...this is because they have all seen his style now and know the only way he can win.....and hatton's rough style wouldn't be as effective in the U.S as half of it is illegal...thus weakening his potency......so whoever fights him next will know what style is required to beat him.

a gatti vs hatton fight would be a potential FOY as they are both brawlers.....

mayweather, harris, judah,corralles, and tszyu II would all beat him......i'm not sure about cotto though....

That wasn't his typical style or anything like the best he can perform, it was just the tactics he employed for this fight. If you watch the 1st round again it's actually KT who sets the tone of the fight by being the one who started clinching and throwing rabbit punches first, Hatton was trying to get his shots off.

I hope all these guys do prepare for Hatton to fight in that manner, it'll just make it easier for him.

Are people forgeting that Hatton beat the man who did this to Judah??

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That wasn't his typical style or anything like the best he can perform, it was just the tactics he employed for this fight. If you watch the 1st round again it's actually KT who sets the tone of the fight by being the one who started clinching and throwing rabbit punches first, Hatton was trying to get his shots off.

I hope all these guys do prepare for Hatton to fight in that manner, it'll just make it easier for him.

No matter what Hatton does people will always say he's ****, it just means were gonna clean up all the points come fight night. :D

couldnt have put it better myself elveiel

Judah's speed and accuracy will shock Hatton. Tszyu was a better fighter when he beat Judah, and Judah is better now than when he lost to Tszyu. However, it is questionable whether Judah can outbox all night if he has to. Forced to pick I would say Judah by TKO, perhaps on cuts after seeing Hatton hit the canvas 203 tmes in the fight. I'd only be 55-60% confident of that though.

No matter what Hatton does people will always say he's ****, it just means were gonna clean up all the points come fight night. :D

Yeah, I did ok on the points at the weekend ;)

I think Hatton has the tools to beat Judah, but it would all depend on what the referee in this fight allows. If the ref is quick to break them up and take Hatton's inside work away it would be very difficult for him to win imo.

its obvious to me that most folk havent seen much of hatton outside the Kostya fight, thats fine but he adopted a specific tactic to negate the danger of zoo's right hand.

the referee has never been an issue before with hatton and i dont suppose it will be in the future. (well other than to moan Ricky Vann - hatton always seems to ref his fights) but in honesty hatton is not a particularly dirty fighter.

its obvious to me that most folk havent seen much of hatton outside the Kostya fight, thats fine but he adopted a specific tactic to negate the danger of zoo's right hand.

the referee has never been an issue before with hatton and i dont suppose it will be in the future. (well other than to moan Ricky Vann - hatton always seems to ref his fights) but in honesty hatton is not a particularly dirty fighter.



Never implied he was, all I'm saying is the best way to beat Judah is by fighting him like Castillo did Corrales or how Hatton fought Tszyu. Some refs are quick to break fighters apart when there is a lot of holding going on when infighting. I have seen several of Hatton's fights btw.

ok fair enough my mistake just a read a few posts *****ing bout the ref mate was all, hatotn is a dirty this and that, tis all, apologies nothing harmful meant. :cool:

Even after his win over Tszyu, people underestimate Hatton.

Ricky is superb at making the ring very small and has great footwork himself. In a way he's like Roberto Duran in that there's more to him than just slam/bam/thankyou mam.

I think Ricky would hunt Judah down and take the steam out of him and stop him late. Judah's handspeed wouldn't worry him much either.

Judah's talented, no doubt, but Hatton would be too rugged for him.

No apologies neccessary guy, I understand your frustrations.

Southpaws are all wrong for beating Hatton, especially ones with an underdeveloped right hook. Hatton would go to town on Zab's ribs every time he jabbed and and he's not particularly open to Zab's best weapons. I can't see Zab being able to stay away from him all of the time and I think Hatton can corner him enough times to wear him down and slow him up. When it gets to that stage I don't think Zab has the mental toughness to deal with the pressure he'll be under and he'll be looking for a way out.

This fight would be a case of the fox chasing the hare. Judah would look good early and perhaps win the 1st few rounds, but sooner or later Hatton would catch up with him.

I've got a sneaky feeling that Judah has got a glass jaw. I don't think Judah will be able to take too much punishment before getting KO'd.

I actually think that the glass jaw of Judah's is going to ruin his career. Don't get me wrong, I think he's VERY skillfull, but at the top level you have to beable to take a punch, and I don't think he can.

isnt this what ever one was saying before zoo v. hatton
hatton is very big and i think he would come through some rough patches where zab worries hatton with his speed to finish it with a late KO
i thinks it al about how long zab can hold hatton off if he can manage it then i say hes got a strong chance
but if hatton get to his chin and cuts him down it wll all be over late on

This fight would be a case of the fox chasing the hare. Judah would look good early and perhaps win the 1st few rounds, but sooner or later Hatton would catch up with him.

I've got a sneaky feeling that Judah has got a glass jaw. I don't think Judah will be able to take too much punishment before getting KO'd.

I actually think that the glass jaw of Judah's is going to ruin his career. Don't get me wrong, I think he's VERY skillfull, but at the top level you have to beable to take a punch, and I don't think he can.


Is there any evidence to prove that Zab has a bad chin? Are you basing it on the fact that Tszyu hit him with a perfect right hand or that he went down to a perfect Spinks counter where he was off balance? What do you think about the idea that he carries 147 much better than 140 and can take/give a much better shot at this weight?

Hatton would be way too slow to deal with Zab at this weight. He'd be countered and carved up all night. His attempts to go at Zab's ribs would yield poor results from Zabs quick, hard counters upstairs. We all know Rickys defense ain't top notch too.

I just don't see how Hatton, with this 1 win over a 35 year old Tszyu, would be ready to take on a COMPLETELY different fighter who's in his prime and is 1 weight class higher than Ricky.

Is there any evidence to prove that Zab has a bad chin? Are you basing it on the fact that Tszyu hit him with a perfect right hand or that he went down to a perfect Spinks counter where he was off balance? What do you think about the idea that he carries 147 much better than 140 and can take/give a much better shot at this weight?

Hatton would be way too slow to deal with Zab at this weight. He'd be countered and carved up all night. His attempts to go at Zab's ribs would yield poor results from Zabs quick, hard counters upstairs. We all know Rickys defense ain't top notch too.

I just don't see how Hatton, with this 1 win over a 35 year old Tszyu, would be ready to take on a COMPLETELY different fighter who's in his prime and is 1 weight class higher than Ricky.

There's no real evidence either way at 147 about his chin but being put down by any Spinks shot is not good.

Hatton's not slow by any means, either in terms of hand or foot speed.

There are questions to be answered by both fighters in this match-up and there's negligible weight difference on fight night as they both come in at 150+ even though Hatton's a division below.

Is there any evidence to prove that Zab has a bad chin? Are you basing it on the fact that Tszyu hit him with a perfect right hand or that he went down to a perfect Spinks counter where he was off balance? What do you think about the idea that he carries 147 much better than 140 and can take/give a much better shot at this weight?

Hatton would be way too slow to deal with Zab at this weight. He'd be countered and carved up all night. His attempts to go at Zab's ribs would yield poor results from Zabs quick, hard counters upstairs. We all know Rickys defense ain't top notch too.

I just don't see how Hatton, with this 1 win over a 35 year old Tszyu, would be ready to take on a COMPLETELY different fighter who's in his prime and is 1 weight class higher than Ricky.
That fight with Kostya Tszyu is not what you should base Ricky Hatton on... He did what he had to do to win, he's a VERY fast fighter.

As for Judah's chin, I was talking to an interesting Australian on this website just before the Tszyu vs Hatton fight, and he was telling me that in his opinion, Kostya Tszyu's power was over-rated. He explained that Kostya hits VERY hard, but is not a one punch knock out artist.

We then went on to investigate, that out of Kostya Tszyu's 25KO's 20 of them were by TKO's.

Corey Spinks is feather fisted, there's no doubt about it, and he was able to put Judah on his arse.

Kostya finished the fight with Judah in one punch...

I just think Judah's chin is gonna cost him, (Much in the same way that Wladimar's is costing him). I might be wrong, but (without sounding arrogant) I'm usually right on this sort of thing. ;)

That fight with Kostya Tszyu is not what you should base Ricky Hatton on... He did what he had to do to win, he's a VERY fast fighter.

As for Judah's chin, I was talking to an interesting Australian on this website just before the Tszyu vs Hatton fight, and he was telling me that in his opinion, Kostya Tszyu's power was over-rated. He explained that Kostya hits VERY hard, but is not a one punch knock out artist.

We then went on to investigate, that out of Kostya Tszyu's 25KO's 20 of them were by TKO's.

Corey Spinks is feather fisted, there's no doubt about it, and he was able to put Judah on his arse.

Kostya finished the fight with Judah in one punch...

I just think Judah's chin is gonna cost him, (Much in the same way that Wladimar's is costing him). I might be wrong, but (without sounding arrogant) I'm usually right on this sort of thing. ;)


To Judah's credit, the Spinks KD was mainly because of balance. It's not like Cory hit Zab when he was square and his power just put him down. I hope you can admit that.

I've watched many Hatton fights (okay well only 3-4) and I'm not basing what I've seen solely on the Tszyu fight. Ricky DOESN'T have nearly the handspeed or footwork of Judah, and I'd reckon that he's probably a bit slower at 147. He is capable of being beat to the punch (Magee fight correct?) and has been put down before by lesser punchers than Zab. Judah would really discourage him by beating him to the punch and by countering with hard shots after Ricky goes to the body.

Kostya Tszyu's KO of Judah was a bit questionable but it happened and happened in a major way. I don't think Zab was out of it and he certainly could have continued, but hes a dumb ass and got up way too fast. It was a stupid move on his part but he was hurt and made a mistake. I know KT isn't a real 1 punch KO artist but he definitely hurts you badly with 1 punch (Mitchell fight among others). Anyone who says that straight right doesn't put you on queer street when timed right is incorrect.

I'm actually usually right on this sort of thing as well, if we aren't sounding arrogant. I know that Zab is just about better in every phase of the game besides some intangibles, but this is not a case where I see the intangibles having an effect on the fight because Zab is on top of his game right now.

To Judah's credit, the Spinks KD was mainly because of balance. It's not like Cory hit Zab when he was square and his power just put him down. I hope you can admit that.

I've watched many Hatton fights (okay well only 3-4) and I'm not basing what I've seen solely on the Tszyu fight. Ricky DOESN'T have nearly the handspeed or footwork of Judah, and I'd reckon that he's probably a bit slower at 147. He is capable of being beat to the punch (Magee fight correct?) and has been put down before by lesser punchers than Zab. Judah would really discourage him by beating him to the punch and by countering with hard shots after Ricky goes to the body.

Kostya Tszyu's KO of Judah was a bit questionable but it happened and happened in a major way. I don't think Zab was out of it and he certainly could have continued, but hes a dumb ass and got up way too fast. It was a stupid move on his part but he was hurt and made a mistake. I know KT isn't a real 1 punch KO artist but he definitely hurts you badly with 1 punch (Mitchell fight among others). Anyone who says that straight right doesn't put you on queer street when timed right is incorrect.

I'm actually usually right on this sort of thing as well, if we aren't sounding arrogant. I know that Zab is just about better in every phase of the game besides some intangibles, but this is not a case where I see the intangibles having an effect on the fight because Zab is on top of his game right now.
Hatton may only look slower because he fights a lot closer to his opponent than Zab Judah. Ricky Hatton is not the "one trick pony" he was referred to before the Tszyu fight, and is still not after... He can box. He had :confused: 85 amatuer fights and won 82 of them... :confused: Something close to that.

So he's a smart boxer... Like he said after the Kostya Tszyu fight, "I found a way to win". He's a lot more clever than people think.

Judah looks AWESOME when he's up against lower level opponents like Rivera, but when he's in there with a top guy he's gonna fall short, and sooner or later he'll get tagged.

That's my opinion.

p.s... If the fight ever did happen I'd bet you 20 million on. Hatton ;) ... easy.

judah coudl have continied are you quite alright?

1. he didnt beat the count he was still falling about the ring.

2, he would have goit hit again and gone straight back to the canvass.


thats a really daft statement. sorry.

Hatotn would beat the **** out of judah at the moment. Beating c level rivera proves nothing he got put on his arse by spinks and you honestly think Judah can live with the pace hatton sets.

not a hope in hell.


you guys are just digging up whomever you can to fight RH.

fine bring em on they will all go the same way.

If anyone has a perfect style to beat Hatton it was Magee, he's a puncher, great counter puncher and is one of the toughest fighters i've ever seen. He's not well known in the US because he's very lazy and would rather have a pint of beer than train, but when he faced Hatton he was in great shape and caused him a few problems so i can see how you might think a good counter puncher could beat Hatton.

Part of the reason i think Hatton would beat Judah is because his mental game is so much better, i think Hatton is more hungry and Judahs just in it for the ego. If Judah fought in Manchester in Hatton's normal size ring with 22,000 wanting him dead i dont think he'd be able to cope with that.

I don't think anyone styands a chance in his own backyard there seems to be something fishy about that place

I don't think anyone styands a chance in his own backyard there seems to be something fishy about that place

I just want to re-insert myself into the thread.

Only fighter with the right style to defeat Hatton in Manchester is Gatti. Hopefully Gatti beats Mayweather because of he does then him fighting Hatton is good possibliy. I doubt Mayweather would ever leave the United States to fight Hatton. In the United States Mayweather would have a fair chance to beat Hatton, in Manchester I see him loosing. I hope Hatton does not fight a somebody like Corrales coming up from lightweight for his next bout. I would prefer to see him fight Gatti over anybody else and in Manchester. If that is not a possiblity than a rematch with Tzyu at whatever venue would be my second choice.

Hatton may only look slower because he fights a lot closer to his opponent than Zab Judah. Ricky Hatton is not the "one trick pony" he was referred to before the Tszyu fight, and is still not after... He can box. He had :confused: 85 amatuer fights and won 82 of them... :confused: Something close to that.

So he's a smart boxer... Like he said after the Kostya Tszyu fight, "I found a way to win". He's a lot more clever than people think.

Judah looks AWESOME when he's up against lower level opponents like Rivera, but when he's in there with a top guy he's gonna fall short, and sooner or later he'll get tagged.

That's my opinion.

p.s... If the fight ever did happen I'd bet you 20 million on. Hatton ;) ... easy.


I don't think that Hatton is a one trick pony. I think that he can box pretty well and he's an excellent brawler when someone wants to get physical. I predicted that he'd beat Tszyu and actually think more highly of him than I do Judah. I think he knows what it takes to win and he'll go the extra yard to try and get there.

However Judah, for some time now, has been this excellent talent who's mind just really hasn't caught up to him. I think he is now mentally where he needs to be in order to succeed as a champion. Theres NO disputing that Judah is more naturally gifted in ALMOST every way than Hatton. Since he seems to be more mature now, I think he has what it takes to win as well.

Judah does look good against lower level competition, but he just looked excellent against very good competition (Spinks) and will probably continue to look good against higher level fighters in my estimation.

Interesting point about HAttons amateur fighting I didn't know if he had fought much in the ams or not.

I just don't think it's that black and white anymore. I don't think it's either either Judah blows him out or he gets caught and gets KOed. I think it'd be a fairly close match but you'd see the difference in natural skills and polish come into play later. If this fight ever came off martin, I'd even one up ya. I'd give you 5-1 odds on Hatton (my 100 mil against your 20 mil). ;) I'm pretty sure that Judah would beat Ricky at this stage but I guess time will tell how their careers will pan out.

Judah tryed to rush Tszyu & walked into a right hand at full extension.
Actually, Judah was not rushing Zoo, it was exactly the opposite.

Judah was backing up, straight back, which is the worst possible thing to do against Zoo. Judah did not rush Zoo at any point in that fight. That's partly why Judah can beat a Hatton-type fighter.

I just want to re-insert myself into the thread.

Only fighter with the right style to defeat Hatton in Manchester is Gatti. Hopefully Gatti beats Mayweather because of he does then him fighting Hatton is good possibliy. I doubt Mayweather would ever leave the United States to fight Hatton. In the United States Mayweather would have a fair chance to beat Hatton, in Manchester I see him loosing. I hope Hatton does not fight a somebody like Corrales coming up from lightweight for his next bout. I would prefer to see him fight Gatti over anybody else and in Manchester. If that is not a possiblity than a rematch with Tzyu at whatever venue would be my second choice.
Holy ****. I'm gonna' have to agree with this take. I'm much more interested in either May or Gatti than Corrales. It just makes so much more sense, especially for Hatton, at this point of his reign as Champ.

Judah's mental game reminds me of Danny Williams.

Danny Williams is one of the most talented, skillful fighters at heavyweight in recent years but this guys mental game is so **** i allowed him to get beat by Samil Sam and Sprott!! Everyone thought he'd beat the nerves and mental block when he hammered Mike Tyson but the next fight Klitchko beat the **** out of him.

Judah give a Spinks a beating but i wouldnt be suprised if the next elite fighter he faces he losses the plot, Judah has so much talent but i'll never be suprised when he gets beat.

if judah fights hatton ill bet you guys all my points

Hmmm this matchup would be determined by where they fought. If they fight in Manchester, then Hatton wins easily because in Manchester he can bite, crawl, hide, duck, stab, grab, flip, swing, rabbit punch jack rabbit kick, tag to his tag-team partner and jump off the ropes on you or do just about anything else he wants to do. No one will ever beat hatton in England unless they allow a MMA champion or a heavyweight to come over and fight him lol.

If they fight in the states where the refs actually participate then Judah wins this fight by knockout. If you all remember round one of the judah/tszyu fight Judah had Tszyu in huge trouble but because of his irrationality he missed a bunch of shots after he caught him with a vicious uppercut. Secondly when he got knocked down he was jumping around with his hands at his side. Lastly he didnt take a knee he tried to get up and show that he was ok and that it was a fluke. Nowadays zab is more experienced and would keep his hands up, secondly he would be intelligent enough to take a knee. he would probably win by late round stoppage.

id say judah would win i dont know why i just think that he has stepped his **** up judging by his ko of spinks.

id say judah would win i dont know why i just think that he has stepped his **** up judging by his ko of spinks.

Hatton would absolutely Maul Spinks. You think Spinks is so great for what? He really got a gift descision against Ricardo Mayorga who is not the most skilled boxer in the world. When he wins it is ususally by knockout and that is where Spinks got his belts from is Mayorga who got them knocking out Vernon Forest. Other than Mayorga Spinks really has beaten nobody, hell he really did not even beat Mayorga, I think he was even knocked down in that fight.

id say judah would win i dont know why i just think that he has stepped his **** up judging by his ko of spinks.


I think it would be a toss up...Hatton has a really high work rate and Judah has been ko'd...I think Hatton has the better chin...I do agree that Judah looked like he had quite a bit more discipline in the second Spinks fight...He even was trying to get the ref to stop it and praised Spinks after...Maybe he is dropping the BS thug thing...but I think this would be the best fight...Gatti-Hatton would be a classic too.

We are still having this Debate ? Hattons defense isnt tight enough to get with Zab. Judah would kick the sh** out of him.
End of discussion. HE is to fast , too powerful ,and has great conditioning.

KO KO KO For the Future of the Welterweight division . Also someone said Gatti can beat Hatton. That maybe true but if Gatti could beat HAtton , I am more then sure ZAB could

I think I will go with Hatton KO 1.

How stupid are you?

No matter what Hatton does people will always say he's ****, it just means were gonna clean up all the points come fight night. :D


No, see thats the wrong additude to have, thats like saying if someone disagrees with you, they are wrong. Hatton in my opinion, did alot of illegal **** allowed by the ref during those holds, thus forcing Tszyu to do the same. Tszyu has to get set and throw 1 2's to be effective, and that didint happen. Therefore Tszyu except for a few moments in the fight, never really got it going, but all that rushing and holding **** isnt gonna fly out here, that **** will get broken up and warned. Zab is gonna be ****in standing there waiting for Hatton.

I think it would be a toss up...Hatton has a really high work rate and Judah has been ko'd...I think Hatton has the better chin...I do agree that Judah looked like he had quite a bit more discipline in the second Spinks fight...He even was trying to get the ref to stop it and praised Spinks after...Maybe he is dropping the BS thug thing...but I think this would be the best fight...Gatti-Hatton would be a classic too.

With a guy like Judah, i dont think it was a "BS thug thing", somebody like him is usually for real. You have to be ****in thuggish to get in the ring in the first place. He probably put certain immaturities away.

How stupid are you?

Stupid enough to know that if Tzyu's power shots were not getting to Hatton that Judah's power shots would not even phase him. Stupid enough to know that Hatton is rugged agressive relatively hard hitting puncher and Judah has a glass Jaw. Stupid enough to know that Judah is basically just to fragile to fight with Hatton. Stupid enough to know that Hatton is stronger than Judah. Stupid enough to know that Hatton beat Tzyu by stoppage and Judah got knocked out in the second round by him on one punch. Stupid enough to know that Hatton walked right threw the shots that made Judah Chicken Dance. Stupid enough to know that Hatton's boxing skills are underrated and Judah's are overrated. Stupid enough to know that Judah cant deal with Hatton superb stamina 12 round aggresion. Stupid enough to know Hatton KO 1 Judah. Stupid enough to also know that Gatti is probably the only fighter qualified to beat Hatton in Manchester at 140.

Stupid enough to know that if Tzyu's power shots were not getting to Hatton that Judah's power shots would not even phase him. Stupid enough to know that Hatton is rugged agressive relatively hard hitting puncher and Judah has a glass Jaw. Stupid enough to know that Judah is basically just to fragile to fight with Hatton. Stupid enough to know that Hatton is stronger than Judah. Stupid enough to know that Hatton beat Tzyu by stoppage and Judah got knocked out in the second round by him on one punch. Stupid enough to know that Hatton walked right threw the shots that made Judah Chicken Dance. Stupid enough to know that Hatton's boxing skills are underrated and Judah's are overrated. Stupid enough to know that Judah cant deal with Hatton superb stamina 12 round aggresion.

Tszyu doesnt land combinations he only throws big "One punches"

Judah can throw in combinations and hurt him.....

Tszyu doesnt land combinations he only throws big "One punches"

Judah can throw in combinations and hurt him.....

Dont try to tell me that Zab Judah is more of a knockout out artist and knockout fighter than Kostya Tzyu. You are just making yourself look bad. Tzyu TKO 2 Judah.

Stupid enough to know that if Tzyu's power shots were not getting to Hatton that Judah's power shots would not even phase him. Stupid enough to know that Hatton is rugged agressive relatively hard hitting puncher and Judah has a glass Jaw. Stupid enough to know that Judah is basically just to fragile to fight with Hatton. Stupid enough to know that Hatton is stronger than Judah. Stupid enough to know that Hatton beat Tzyu by stoppage and Judah got knocked out in the second round by him on one punch. Stupid enough to know that Hatton walked right threw the shots that made Judah Chicken Dance. Stupid enough to know that Hatton's boxing skills are underrated and Judah's are overrated. Stupid enough to know that Judah cant deal with Hatton superb stamina 12 round aggresion. Stupid enough to know Hatton KO 1 Judah.


I will make a you a bet

My 50 million points to your 1 million that it doesnt happen...

and 6 month control of my/your avatar and signature...

I will make a you a bet

My 50 million points to your 1 million that it doesnt happen...

and 6 month control of my/your avatar and signature...

I dont have 50 million points and I will discuss bets only if this fight is ever a possiblity.

Dont try to tell me that Zab Judah is more of a knockout out artist and knockout fighter than Kostya Tzyu. You are just making yourself look bad. Tzyu TKO 2 Judah.

I never said that you idiot..

I said Zab Judah brings speed to the table and he can land a bunch of blind shots on him..

I dont have 50 million points and I will discuss bets if only if this fight is ever a possiblity.

I said my 50 million to your 1 million...

but ok when the time comes, put your money where your mouth is..

Dont try to tell me that Zab Judah is more of a knockout out artist and knockout fighter than Kostya Tzyu. You are just making yourself look bad. Tzyu TKO 2 Judah.


Zab throws combinations with quicker Handspeed he doesnt even need to be fully balanced to do this. Tszyu needs to get set and fight at a distance, when he cant do that, hes not very effective, when Zab was moving against Tszyu, he couldnt catch up to him, the moment Zab gave him a target, he ****ed around and got KO'ed

Stupid enough to know that if Tzyu's power shots were not getting to Hatton that Judah's power shots would not even phase him. Stupid enough to know that Hatton is rugged agressive relatively hard hitting puncher and Judah has a glass Jaw. Stupid enough to know that Judah is basically just to fragile to fight with Hatton. Stupid enough to know that Hatton is stronger than Judah. Stupid enough to know that Hatton beat Tzyu by stoppage and Judah got knocked out in the second round by him on one punch. Stupid enough to know that Hatton walked right threw the shots that made Judah Chicken Dance. Stupid enough to know that Hatton's boxing skills are underrated and Judah's are overrated. Stupid enough to know that Judah cant deal with Hatton superb stamina 12 round aggresion. Stupid enough to know Hatton KO 1 Judah. Stupid enough to also know that Gatti is probably the only fighter qualified to beat Hatton in Manchester at 140.


Fine deal accepted. I guess that is another stupid thing of me eh sunshine. :)

Zab throws combinations with quicker Handspeed he doesnt even need to be fully balanced to do this. Tszyu needs to get set and fight at a distance, when he cant do that, hes not very effective, when Zab was moving against Tszyu, he couldnt catch up to him, the moment Zab gave him a target, he ****ed around and got KO'ed
agree'd man

McKay cant make solid points and looks foolish after every fight...

I think judah will will win by late round stoppage.

i dont know but after seein the k.t. fight i have a totally different opinion about hatton now....i thought he had diapers on right up until that fight, so i figured he'd fold after tasting kostyas power...but he didnt at all, and kept commin forward through everything so i think he could actually do the same to super right now...even though zab is my fav fighter, i think ricky could win by desicion...

Maybe the age factor has caught up with KT. I think a younger KT could have KO Ricky but I'm not taking anything away from RH win. It was an awesome win I admit but Zab is a different story. He has more speed, packs a lot of power that almost KO zoo in the first round. I don't think ricky can handle the kind of power that judah has. If Chico-hatton fight push through, I think the winner must face judah next.

Who do you think would win in this matchup.


How many Hatton fans voted with your alter-egos on here as well? more than 15 think Hatton can take Judah? Holy ****. :rolleyes:

How many Hatton fans voted with your alter-egos on here as well? more than 15 think Hatton can take Judah? Holy ****. :rolleyes:

most of these idiots are only going by what happened to judah vs tszyu and because hatton beat tszyu..half of the idiots that claimed hatton would beat judah also said that hatton would get destroyed by tszyu

I don't think that Hatton is a one trick pony. I think that he can box pretty well and he's an excellent brawler when someone wants to get physical. I predicted that he'd beat Tszyu and actually think more highly of him than I do Judah. I think he knows what it takes to win and he'll go the extra yard to try and get there.

However Judah, for some time now, has been this excellent talent who's mind just really hasn't caught up to him. I think he is now mentally where he needs to be in order to succeed as a champion. Theres NO disputing that Judah is more naturally gifted in ALMOST every way than Hatton. Since he seems to be more mature now, I think he has what it takes to win as well.

Judah does look good against lower level competition, but he just looked excellent against very good competition (Spinks) and will probably continue to look good against higher level fighters in my estimation.

Interesting point about HAttons amateur fighting I didn't know if he had fought much in the ams or not.

I just don't think it's that black and white anymore. I don't think it's either either Judah blows him out or he gets caught and gets KOed. I think it'd be a fairly close match but you'd see the difference in natural skills and polish come into play later. If this fight ever came off martin, I'd even one up ya. I'd give you 5-1 odds on Hatton (my 100 mil against your 20 mil). ;) I'm pretty sure that Judah would beat Ricky at this stage but I guess time will tell how their careers will pan out.
5-1 odds!... That's a very generous bet! And if the fight ever does take place I'd definatly take you up on that!

I understand what you're saying, and I do think that Judah would win a lot of the early rounds, but eventually Ricky Hatton is gonna catch up with him. The 2nd half of the fight is where Ricky is at his most dangerous.

Your having a laugh 5 to 1, i'd definitely take that bet.

OLDRINGO, if you want more than one bet i'm your man :cool:

I'd say Ricky Hatton in the 8th.

i'd favor zab, but you have to give hattton a real chance...

McKay, you are a retard...

You said Golota would KO Brewster easily and look what happend

you've been like 8-2 with your predictions

You are a moron

yes, hatton has a chance, but McKay says he w ill knock Zab out in round 1..

What a dumb ****..

Hatton KO late

could zab pull a winky wright and out box and stay away from being mauled by the brawler hatton?the new and improved zab might be able to. but zab is a little guy and at 147 i dont think he'll bring up anymore power. he hasnt shown anymore power at 140. hatton is such a limited skill boxer, but great brawler that it would be interesting to see a focus'd zab in the ring with him.i could see zab out pointing him. corrales has a much better chance against hatton.

could zab pull a winky wright and out box the brawler hatton?the new and improved zab might be able to. but zab is a little guy and at 147 i dont think he'll bring up anymore power. he hasnt shown anymore power at 140. hatton is such limited skilled boxer, great brawler that it would be interesting to see a focus'd zab in the ring with him.
Don't base Ricky Hatton's boxing skills on that one fight with Tszyu. Hatton is in fact a very skillfull boxer and has shown it in the past.

He only did what he had to do to win that fight.

Don't base Ricky Hatton's boxing skills on that one fight with Tszyu. Hatton is in fact a very skillfull boxer and has shown it in the past.

He only did what he had to do to win that fight.


yes he's shown some skill but against second tier fighters.

Hmmm this matchup would be determined by where they fought. If they fight in Manchester, then Hatton wins easily because in Manchester he can bite, crawl, hide, duck, stab, grab, flip, swing, rabbit punch jack rabbit kick, tag to his tag-team partner and jump off the ropes on you or do just about anything else he wants to do. No one will ever beat hatton in England unless they allow a MMA champion or a heavyweight to come over and fight him lol.

If they fight in the states where the refs actually participate then Judah wins this fight by knockout. If you all remember round one of the judah/tszyu fight Judah had Tszyu in huge trouble but because of his irrationality he missed a bunch of shots after he caught him with a vicious uppercut. Secondly when he got knocked down he was jumping around with his hands at his side. Lastly he didnt take a knee he tried to get up and show that he was ok and that it was a fluke. Nowadays zab is more experienced and would keep his hands up, secondly he would be intelligent enough to take a knee. he would probably win by late round stoppage.

Riptor asked why I gave him Bad K the other day and not respond to his post... truth is, I can't remember which post I gave it to now. But this typical racist bull**** is a good example of why I would.

I can't stand the way in which Manchester is presented on this forum as some kind of savage bearpit full of animals that disrespects other fighters... like the US is some mecca of respect and sophistication... like all those fights you get in the crowds are isolated incidents or something.

Yeah, Hatton fought dirty but so did Zoo. And the ref helped Hatton - bull****! If he was helping Hatton he'd be taking points of. What a crock of ****.

Don't base Ricky Hatton's boxing skills on that one fight with Tszyu. Hatton is in fact a very skillfull boxer and has shown it in the past.

He only did what he had to do to win that fight.

yeah but if hatton tried to box with judah he would definitely lose. He needs to make it into a rough battle to have a chance

yeah but if hatton tried to box with judah he would definitely lose. He needs to make it into a rough battle to have a chance

It depends how you define the term skill, i see skill as being very good at something but a lot of people see it as being a boxer who fights well on the outside. Hatton IMO has a lot of skill, its just a different type of skill to Judah.

It depends how you define the term skill, i see skill as being very good at something but a lot of people see it as being a boxer who fights well on the outside. Hatton IMO has a lot of skill, its just a different type of skill to Judah.

I dont think he can box with judah

Last time i checked , the fight HAtton had with Tszyu was a dirty one . Alot of Low blows , rabbit punching ,Etc.
No real judge is going to allow that . You take away those dirty techniques and what is hatton going to have against Judah ? Nothing

He is too fast? Being fast aint going help you from being bullied to the ropes and pounded the body and pouded with uppercuts. I would have to say Tzyu has a better defence than Judah and Hatton was able to land clean shots on him all night long to the body and head.

This is why Judah wont fight Margarito. Judah is gonna destroyed by any these pressure type fighters that can a punch and have good stamina.


Ask Arturo Gatti about how speed can **** up your gameplan.