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m00ks 09-27-2004, 02:58 PM Pacquiao fights WBO champ in November
By Ronnie Nathanielsz, Manila Standard, 28 Sep 2004
At long last, the wait is over for Ring Magazine featherweight People’s Champion Manny Pacquiao. Promoter Murad Muhammad informed Viva Sports/Manila Standard yesterday that Pacquiao will fight World Boxing Organization Intercontinental champion Gairy St. Clair of Australia in Manila with...
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Wowie, Murad actually got an opponent but this is far from all that miracle talk. Don't know this guy, but apparantly he took Chico, Dorin also Vivian Harris to distance. Anybody ever heard of him?
Loubert 09-27-2004, 03:17 PM He also went the distance with Dorin 4 years ago. This guy's got a chin. Yes, it's far from the "miracle" that Murad promised but i guess it's better than not fighting at all this year. I just hope a fight with Morales materializes early next year coz that's what we all want to see.
m00ks 09-27-2004, 03:21 PM He also went the distance with Dorin 4 years ago. This guy's got a chin. Yes, it's far from the "miracle" that Murad promised but i guess it's better than not fighting at all this year. I just hope a fight with Morales materializes early next year coz that's what we all want to see.
Miracle or not manny will take it. He needs to fight. The fight will be in the Philippines :eek: , Manny will not be able to concentrate. He better be serious about this or his career will go capoot.
Sir_Jose 09-27-2004, 05:10 PM The WBO Intercontinental champion is not the same as being The WBO champ.
He seems like a big guy who can take a punch. he has fought at lightweight and jr welter
m00ks 09-27-2004, 06:08 PM The WBO Intercontinental champion is not the same as being The WBO champ.
He seems like a big guy who can take a punch. he has fought at lightweight and jr welter
Before you get yer panties in a bunch I'm just quoting the article about the WBO champ thingy. So chiillll...
neils7147933 09-27-2004, 06:20 PM Showtime has not yet announced what December's "America's Fight Night" will be. This would be a good one - I assume Pacquaio does not have a long term HBO deal since the article said they weren't yet saying it was HBO.
Nov 20, 27 are already taken on the schedule unless Manny wants to fight on an undercard - which the Nov 27th card is already in the works and Morales likes Latinos fighting on his card.
I guess HBO might go head to head with America's fight night with this one - Williams vs. Klitschko is the next week and the week after the replayed is rumored to open a James Toney event, though a rumored injury might ruin that.
Anway, Nov and Dec look like good boxing months unlike October.
{BrownBomber} 09-27-2004, 06:43 PM Gairy St. Clair
Sex Male
Nationality Australia
Global Id AU-00-007786
Hometown Perth, WA, Australia
Birthplace Georgetown, Guyana
Division Featherweight
World Rank 22
Date of Birth 1975-02-02
Age 29
Reach 164cm
Stance Orthodox
Height 5' 4
Trainer Craig Christian
Manager Craig Christian
won 34 (14 ko's) - lost 3 - drawn 2 - tot 39
FistFest 09-27-2004, 06:53 PM Oh, I remember this guy. I heard this guy has good batteries but he lacks punching power. He's got a nice rep for taking power punchers to the full distance. He's average in all things except the chin department where he's a proven hardcase.
m00ks 09-27-2004, 06:54 PM Gairy St. Clair
Sex Male
Nationality Australia
Global Id AU-00-007786
Hometown Perth, WA, Australia
Birthplace Georgetown, Guyana
Division Featherweight
World Rank 22
Date of Birth 1975-02-02
Age 29
Reach 164cm
Stance Orthodox
Height 5' 4
Trainer Craig Christian
Manager Craig Christian
won 34 (14 ko's) - lost 3 - drawn 2 - tot 39
Of he took Dorin and Chico to distance, :eek: Pac's in a hell of a fight. He is pretty short though so Pac would have a tough time.
psychopath 09-27-2004, 07:30 PM Let's be happy for this is the best that can happen under the circumstances . . . never mind the title . . . what Manny needs is to fight before the year ends , , , and that's what he is getting here. His opponent is simply not a named fighter in the U.S. but certainly not a push over.
As I was always insisting from day one . . . this is a lot better than seeing Pac fight on the Morales/MAB undercard. :D ;) :)
psychopath 09-27-2004, 07:35 PM Of he took Dorin and Chico to distance, :eek: Pac's in a hell of a fight. He is pretty short though so Pac would have a tough time.
Ha . . . ha . . . ha . . . it looks like you are seriously doing your research on Pac . . . you noticed that? :D Pac is always having difficulties fighting shorter fighters since day one of his boxing career. ;)
.::|ULTIMATE|::. 09-27-2004, 07:42 PM He hasnt fought out of Australia in years.
And he's never fought in lightweight or higher like some say.. only Feather and super feather.
He is gonna go down, and he is gonna look bad doing it, a walking punching bag with a weak belt.
nezahualcoyotl 09-27-2004, 07:50 PM I hope Pac fights one of the 3 mexicans soon...Its a shame their squeezing out all the money out of Morales-Barrera III...its like trying to get blood from a rock. I wouldn't be surprised tho if Barrera taxes Morales a few times. But I'd still rather see Pac on the undercard of III/...Barrera first then Morales. Morales doesn't have that many big money fights other than Barrera/Pacquiao/maybe Marquez. That's pretty much it. No one else around his division holds any clout with respect to drawing big fan/ppv #'s.
.::|ULTIMATE|::. 09-27-2004, 07:54 PM I hope Pac fights one of the 3 mexicans soon...Its a shame their squeezing out all the money out of Morales-Barrera III...its like trying to get blood from a rock. I wouldn't be surprised tho if Barrera taxes Morales a few times. But I'd still rather see Pac on the undercard of III/...Barrera first then Morales. Morales doesn't have that many big money fights other than Barrera/Pacquiao/maybe Marquez. That's pretty much it. No one else around his division holds any clout with respect to drawing big fan/ppv #'s.
Actually everybody Morales fights.. is a big money fight.. He is the draw around his weight class.
m00ks 09-27-2004, 07:57 PM Ha . . . ha . . . ha . . . it looks like you are seriously doing your research on Pac . . . you noticed that? :D Pac is always having difficulties fighting shorter fighters since day one of his boxing career. ;)
No resarch, lol I just saw it. He had trouble with a ducking Ledwaba and Lucero, even Sanchez was tough to hit for him. Taller opponents are attractive targets to him. Julio(a lil taller I think), Hussein (this one was a tough SOB).
I think this the perfect tune-up opponent for Pac. So-so power, amazing chin, great to test out himself at 130. I doubt it will be a fast knockout but he could use the rounds.
m00ks 09-27-2004, 07:59 PM Question, if MAB looses again to Morales, is he done? Would we need another great featherweight to be thrown in the mix?
Sir_Jose 09-27-2004, 09:02 PM He hasnt fought out of Australia in years.
And he's never fought in lightweight or higher like some say.. only Feather and super feather.
He is gonna go down, and he is gonna look bad doing it, a walking punching bag with a weak belt.
are you sure your talking about the right guy? Cause on boxrec it says every fight he has had since 2001 was in Australia.
and he fought Vivian Harris at jr Welter. Both weighed in at 138 thats jr welter and his fight with Dorrin was at lightweight.
abdiel2k3 09-27-2004, 09:10 PM hey whos did remind you of
waaa waaaa waaaa
pac is a chiken gay
he said he wanted larios
why didint he fight him
waaa waaa waaa
instead hes fighten a nobody
yet when jmm defended his title agaisnt a "nobody"
you all pissed and whined about hes scared
looks like murad and manny werent so confident about taken on Chololo
{BrownBomber} 09-27-2004, 09:43 PM hey whos did remind you of
waaa waaaa waaaa
pac is a chiken gay
he said he wanted larios
why didint he fight him
waaa waaa waaa
instead hes fighten a nobody
yet when jmm defended his title agaisnt a "nobody"
you all pissed and whined about hes scared
looks like murad and manny werent so confident about taken on Chololo
Ya I wanted to see him fight Larios also, just wondering what happened? Any news,and dont say its cuz Larios didnt want to.
mr. bojangles 09-27-2004, 10:08 PM He hasnt fought out of Australia in years.
And he's never fought in lightweight or higher like some say.. only Feather and super feather.
He is gonna go down, and he is gonna look bad doing it, a walking punching bag with a weak belt.
Who's "he"? Is it Gairy St. Claire you're referring to?
Well, he's fought Vivian Harris at 138, Chicco at 130, Leonard Dorrin & Sebastian Paz at 135...he actually fought at lightweight 6 times and once at 140 Jr. Welter :eek:
...and he's never been KO'd, not even Chicco :eek:
m00ks 09-27-2004, 11:33 PM hey whos did remind you of
waaa waaaa waaaa
pac is a chiken gay
he said he wanted larios
why didint he fight him
waaa waaa waaa
instead hes fighten a nobody
yet when jmm defended his title agaisnt a "nobody"
you all pissed and whined about hes scared
looks like murad and manny werent so confident about taken on Chololo
The guy went after MAB, went after JMM and wants Morales. Now tell me, and please amuse me...why the **** would he duck Larios?!??!? :confused:
Seriously, WHY?
And anyweyz, I'm sure the reason is the undercard thing. That was a slap in the face.
m00ks 09-27-2004, 11:35 PM Who's "he"? Is it Gairy St. Claire you're referring to?
Well, he's fought Vivian Harris at 138, Chicco at 130, Leonard Dorrin & Sebastian Paz at 135...he actually fought at lightweight 6 times and once at 140 Jr. Welter :eek:
...and he's never been KO'd, not even Chicco :eek:
Good test for Pac.
grayfist 09-28-2004, 12:40 AM Boxrec tells the story of Gairy St. Clair:
Inspite of having been classified as a featherweight, St. Clair never fought in that division until he met Decho Bankkluaygym of Thailand for the vacant WBO Intercontinental title just this past August. He won that fight on scores of 119-110, 117-111 and 116-112. The fight was in New South Wales.
His record stands at 34-3-2 (14), having lost only to Vivian Harris (then, 15-0) in a 138 lbs contest at the Blue Horizon in Philly (UD10); Diego Corrales (then 25-0) in an IBF Superfeatherweight eliminator at the Yoshemite Hall in Sacramento (UD12); and Leonard Dorin (then, 15-0) in Montreal, Canada (UD10). He salvaged a draw against a then 14-3-1 Bernard Harris in South Carolina.
His spectacular wins so far (if that) are TKO1's vs. winless opponents Malcolm Lowery and Rio Saragih. Of the 14 Ko's in St. Clair's record, only three were actual KO's, the rest TKO's. His Ko victims were Filipino fighter Bart Abapo, a prospect named Shane Breslin (3-0, coming in) and Earl Trotman, who was debuting when he fell to St. Clair. Trotman was St. Clair's 1st KO victim; twas only St. Clair's 4th fight.
St. Clair debuted in 1994 vs. a fighter named Nigel Boston and took a split decision, in Guyana, where he had his first four fights. He travelled to New York for his fifth and sixth, which he both won, the one against David Forbes ending in a TKO4. Thereafter, he went around the US and had fights in New Jersey (including one against a 3-11-1 Edwin Ruiz which he won by UD), Miami and Worcester, MA. He won all of his first 16 fights except the draw with BHarris, before suffering his first defeat in the hands of Chico in December, 1998. After having been beaten by Corrales, St. Clair went back to Guyana and won the Guyanese Superfeatherweight title against a 14-6-2 Vincent Howard (UD12), Feb. 1999. He successfully defended the title, two months later, against Aldrich Johnson (then, 18-7-0), before meeting Vivian Harris in December of the same year. After the defeat to VHarris, St. Clair went 9 months without a fight, and then went up against Dorin. After the Dorin fight, he went on a one year hiatus before re-surfaccing in Australia, where he has been exclusively fighting since 2000.
St. Clair operates from an orthodox stance, is 29 years old and stands 5'4, which leaves one wondering what he was doing in the ring against the Corraleses, Harisses and Dorrins. Nevertheless, his having gone the full route with all three shows how much of a chin he has, and, equally important, how big a heart he possesses.
Along with the WBO feather belt, St. Clair holds the WBF International Superfeatherweight championship after knocking out (6) Bart Abapo for the vacant throne as well as the IBF Pan Pacific Superfeatherweight crown after stopping James Swan in Sydney.
This St. Clair, he doesn't look like cannon fodder to me! :(
Hurlex 09-28-2004, 12:47 AM manny better get a serious about this fight...i have seen this guy trust me no power( of course if u leave ur self open and he connects good -anyone cn ko you..but no where close to manny power)...here the thing..this guy can last a long time and throw a lot of punches..this is a great test for pac..if pac comes out there and goes for a early ko on him from round 1-to about 4round..he will have a easy time..but if he lets St. Clair get confortable it will be a easy UD or SD for him..so pac's gotta make this guy think
"damn this guy can punch"..cuz trust me this guy my have the second best chin next to mayorga
FistFest 09-28-2004, 01:04 AM Boxrec tells the story of Gairy St. Clair:
Inspite of having been classified as a featherweight, St. Clair never fought in that division until he met Decho Bankkluaygym of Thailand for the vacant WBO Intercontinental title just this past August. He won that fight on scores of 119-110, 117-111 and 116-112. The fight was in New South Wales.
His record stands at 34-3-2 (14), having lost only to Vivian Harris (then, 15-0) in a 138 lbs contest at the Blue Horizon in Philly (UD10); Diego Corrales (then 25-0) in an IBF Superfeatherweight eliminator at the Yoshemite Hall in Sacramento (UD12); and Leonard Dorin (then, 15-0) in Montreal, Canada (UD10). He salvaged a draw against a then 14-3-1 Bernard Harris in South Carolina.
His spectacular wins so far (if that) are TKO1's vs. winless opponents Malcolm Lowery and Rio Saragih. Of the 14 Ko's in St. Clair's record, only three were actual KO's, the rest TKO's. His Ko victims were Filipino fighter Bart Abapo, a prospect named Shane Breslin (3-0, coming in) and Earl Trotman, who was debuting when he fell to St. Clair. Trotman was St. Clair's 1st KO victim; twas only St. Clair's 4th fight.
St. Clair debuted in 1994 vs. a fighter named Nigel Boston and took a split decision, in Guyana, where he had his first four fights. He travelled to New York for his fifth and sixth, which he both won, the one against David Forbes ending in a TKO4. Thereafter, he went around the US and had fights in New Jersey (including one against a 3-11-1 Edwin Ruiz which he won by UD), Miami and Worcester, MA. He won all of his first 16 fights except the draw with BHarris, before suffering his first defeat in the hands of Chico in December, 1998. After having been beaten by Corrales, St. Clair went back to Guyana and won the Guyanese Superfeatherweight title against a 14-6-2 Vincent Howard (UD12), Feb. 1999. He successfully defended the title, two months later, against Aldrich Johnson (then, 18-7-0), before meeting Vivian Harris in December of the same year. After the defeat to VHarris, St. Clair went 9 months without a fight, and then went up against Dorin. After the Dorin fight, he went on a one year hiatus before re-surfaccing in Australia, where he has been exclusively fighting since 2000.
St. Clair operates from an orthodox stance, is 29 years old and stands 5'4, which leaves one wondering what he was doing in the ring against the Corraleses, Harisses and Dorrins. Nevertheless, his having gone the full route with all three shows how much of a chin he has, and, equally important, how big a heart he possesses.
Along with the WBO feather belt, St. Clair holds the WBF International Superfeatherweight championship after knocking out (6) Bart Abapo for the vacant throne as well as the IBF Pan Pacific Superfeatherweight crown after stopping James Swan in Sydney.
This St. Clair, he doesn't look like cannon fodder to me! :(
A tough 5'4 who fought a 5'11 Corrales and went the full distance? Hmmm... he has my respect now for having a kevlar chin. Manny's 5'6 and he has trouble with small dudes (especially small dudes who fight dirty) Agapito Sanchez comes into mind. Chico must've shook his head in surprise and asked this guy...
CORRALES to St. Clair: Can you please jump to meet my punch? I've been combing your hair for the last 11 rounds.
FistFest 09-28-2004, 01:04 AM Boxrec tells the story of Gairy St. Clair:
Inspite of having been classified as a featherweight, St. Clair never fought in that division until he met Decho Bankkluaygym of Thailand for the vacant WBO Intercontinental title just this past August. He won that fight on scores of 119-110, 117-111 and 116-112. The fight was in New South Wales.
His record stands at 34-3-2 (14), having lost only to Vivian Harris (then, 15-0) in a 138 lbs contest at the Blue Horizon in Philly (UD10); Diego Corrales (then 25-0) in an IBF Superfeatherweight eliminator at the Yoshemite Hall in Sacramento (UD12); and Leonard Dorin (then, 15-0) in Montreal, Canada (UD10). He salvaged a draw against a then 14-3-1 Bernard Harris in South Carolina.
His spectacular wins so far (if that) are TKO1's vs. winless opponents Malcolm Lowery and Rio Saragih. Of the 14 Ko's in St. Clair's record, only three were actual KO's, the rest TKO's. His Ko victims were Filipino fighter Bart Abapo, a prospect named Shane Breslin (3-0, coming in) and Earl Trotman, who was debuting when he fell to St. Clair. Trotman was St. Clair's 1st KO victim; twas only St. Clair's 4th fight.
St. Clair debuted in 1994 vs. a fighter named Nigel Boston and took a split decision, in Guyana, where he had his first four fights. He travelled to New York for his fifth and sixth, which he both won, the one against David Forbes ending in a TKO4. Thereafter, he went around the US and had fights in New Jersey (including one against a 3-11-1 Edwin Ruiz which he won by UD), Miami and Worcester, MA. He won all of his first 16 fights except the draw with BHarris, before suffering his first defeat in the hands of Chico in December, 1998. After having been beaten by Corrales, St. Clair went back to Guyana and won the Guyanese Superfeatherweight title against a 14-6-2 Vincent Howard (UD12), Feb. 1999. He successfully defended the title, two months later, against Aldrich Johnson (then, 18-7-0), before meeting Vivian Harris in December of the same year. After the defeat to VHarris, St. Clair went 9 months without a fight, and then went up against Dorin. After the Dorin fight, he went on a one year hiatus before re-surfaccing in Australia, where he has been exclusively fighting since 2000.
St. Clair operates from an orthodox stance, is 29 years old and stands 5'4, which leaves one wondering what he was doing in the ring against the Corraleses, Harisses and Dorrins. Nevertheless, his having gone the full route with all three shows how much of a chin he has, and, equally important, how big a heart he possesses.
Along with the WBO feather belt, St. Clair holds the WBF International Superfeatherweight championship after knocking out (6) Bart Abapo for the vacant throne as well as the IBF Pan Pacific Superfeatherweight crown after stopping James Swan in Sydney.
This St. Clair, he doesn't look like cannon fodder to me! :(
A tough 5'4 who fought a 5'11 Corrales and went the full distance? An Energizer bunny! Hmmm... he has my respect now for having a kevlar chin. Manny's 5'6 and he has trouble with small dudes (especially small dudes who fight dirty) Agapito Sanchez comes into mind. Chico must've shook his head in surprise and asked this guy...
CORRALES to St. Clair: Can you please jump to meet my punch? I've been combing your hair for the last 11 rounds. :D
mr. bojangles 09-28-2004, 04:03 AM Boxrec tells the story of Gairy St. Clair:
Inspite of having been classified as a featherweight, St. Clair never fought in that division until he met Decho Bankkluaygym of Thailand for the vacant WBO Intercontinental title just this past August. He won that fight on scores of 119-110, 117-111 and 116-112. The fight was in New South Wales.
His record stands at 34-3-2 (14), having lost only to Vivian Harris (then, 15-0) in a 138 lbs contest at the Blue Horizon in Philly (UD10); Diego Corrales (then 25-0) in an IBF Superfeatherweight eliminator at the Yoshemite Hall in Sacramento (UD12); and Leonard Dorin (then, 15-0) in Montreal, Canada (UD10). He salvaged a draw against a then 14-3-1 Bernard Harris in South Carolina.
His spectacular wins so far (if that) are TKO1's vs. winless opponents Malcolm Lowery and Rio Saragih. Of the 14 Ko's in St. Clair's record, only three were actual KO's, the rest TKO's. His Ko victims were Filipino fighter Bart Abapo, a prospect named Shane Breslin (3-0, coming in) and Earl Trotman, who was debuting when he fell to St. Clair. Trotman was St. Clair's 1st KO victim; twas only St. Clair's 4th fight.
St. Clair debuted in 1994 vs. a fighter named Nigel Boston and took a split decision, in Guyana, where he had his first four fights. He travelled to New York for his fifth and sixth, which he both won, the one against David Forbes ending in a TKO4. Thereafter, he went around the US and had fights in New Jersey (including one against a 3-11-1 Edwin Ruiz which he won by UD), Miami and Worcester, MA. He won all of his first 16 fights except the draw with BHarris, before suffering his first defeat in the hands of Chico in December, 1998. After having been beaten by Corrales, St. Clair went back to Guyana and won the Guyanese Superfeatherweight title against a 14-6-2 Vincent Howard (UD12), Feb. 1999. He successfully defended the title, two months later, against Aldrich Johnson (then, 18-7-0), before meeting Vivian Harris in December of the same year. After the defeat to VHarris, St. Clair went 9 months without a fight, and then went up against Dorin. After the Dorin fight, he went on a one year hiatus before re-surfaccing in Australia, where he has been exclusively fighting since 2000.
St. Clair operates from an orthodox stance, is 29 years old and stands 5'4, which leaves one wondering what he was doing in the ring against the Corraleses, Harisses and Dorrins. Nevertheless, his having gone the full route with all three shows how much of a chin he has, and, equally important, how big a heart he possesses.
Along with the WBO feather belt, St. Clair holds the WBF International Superfeatherweight championship after knocking out (6) Bart Abapo for the vacant throne as well as the IBF Pan Pacific Superfeatherweight crown after stopping James Swan in Sydney.
This St. Clair, he doesn't look like cannon fodder to me! :(
Hey buddy! Excellent work. Keep us informed.
I think this St. Clair is one tough SOB! Even Chicco wasn't able to KD this guy! Pac better not underestimate him. I was actually hoping for Juarez or Chris John for Pac, but this is better than being idle.
grayfist 09-28-2004, 04:36 AM Hey buddy! Excellent work. Keep us informed.
I think this St. Clair is one tough SOB! Even Chicco wasn't able to KD this guy! Pac better not underestimate him. I was actually hoping for Juarez or Chris John for Pac, but this is better than being idle.Hi, pal! :D Thanxlots! Yup, St. Clair's no patsy! Thanx again! :)
grayfist 09-28-2004, 04:38 AM A tough 5'4 who fought a 5'11 Corrales and went the full distance? An Energizer bunny! Hmmm... he has my respect now for having a kevlar chin. Manny's 5'6 and he has trouble with small dudes (especially small dudes who fight dirty) Agapito Sanchez comes into mind. Chico must've shook his head in surprise and asked this guy...
CORRALES to St. Clair: Can you please jump to meet my punch? I've been combing your hair for the last 11 rounds. :DHa! Ha! Ha! Ha! That's a good one! :D
grayfist 09-28-2004, 04:42 AM manny better get a serious about this fight...i have seen this guy trust me no power( of course if u leave ur self open and he connects good -anyone cn ko you..but no where close to manny power)...here the thing..this guy can last a long time and throw a lot of punches..this is a great test for pac..if pac comes out there and goes for a early ko on him from round 1-to about 4round..he will have a easy time..but if he lets St. Clair get confortable it will be a easy UD or SD for him..so pac's gotta make this guy think
"damn this guy can punch"..cuz trust me this guy my have the second best chin next to mayorga Oh oh, Pac has got his work cut out for him... :( !!! Yup, he shouldn't look beyond this St. Clair!
Bobby No Sex 05-30-2011, 09:09 PM pac will have trouble with st. clair. who was that guy?
Bee Keepz 05-30-2011, 09:41 PM Pacquiao needs to quit ducking Larios and Juarez, instead of fighting old past it Mexicans.
miron_lang 05-30-2011, 10:59 PM pac will have trouble with st. clair. who was that guy?
Tangna pare lufet ng hukay mo ah :D
St. Clair is the rival of Mzenke Fana.
tibbar 05-30-2011, 11:43 PM Pacquiao needs to quit ducking Larios and Juarez, instead of fighting old past it Mexicans.
nyahahahaha retro...
MRBOOMER 05-30-2011, 11:47 PM So he's moving down in weight?
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