WHAT FIX??? WHAT BABY? THATS HOW DEM STONS DO **** IN THE MOTOR CITY.

Wow what a game. The Pistons showed why they are the defending champs and pulled that **** out in the 4th.

I can't wait to hear all of the excuses. Don't give me that "well the Heat would have won if Wade was ok" **** because if you can't play then get the **** off the court.

Sheed and Mr. Big Shot came through in the clutch as always.

It's destiny at this point *****es, Spurs better get ready for a thrashing in San Antonio.

DDDDDDDDEEEEEEEEEETTTTTTTTRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOIIIII IIIIITTTTTTT BASKETBALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!

yeah yeah. Your stons won. whatever. Lets go talk about baseball in the thread I made. Its obvious, Detroit is going to win the title. Spurs have no chance.

What a 4th quarter effort man.
That's championship poise at its best ! :cool:

Spurs in 5

That was game 7.
Pistons are in the finals again ;)

Thank God Shaq isn't going to another final series. I can't stand that fat ****.

Pistons are healthy, and they've got a
big momentum going for them.....
Spurs had an easy going with the Suns.
They're in for a reality check with the champs :cool:

Spurs in 5

Pistons in 6

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timmy says: shut it gringo


:D

God damn those Pistons are ****ing great. Spurs in 5 is a joke neils.

Pistons are going to celebrate tonight baby. Get those Miami hoes and bubbly out mudda****as. Time to go hit those clubs and stwock those fine latin thicky thick girls.

God damn those Pistons are ****ing great. Spurs in 5 is a joke neils.

Pistons are going to celebrate tonight baby. Get those Miami hoes and bubbly out mudda****as. Time to go hit those clubs and stwock those fine latin thicky thick girls.


I'd say Brown is a ****ing genius as well dude.
Sitting out players and letting the top guys
take charge of game 7. GENIUS

God damn those Pistons are ****ing great. Spurs in 5 is a joke neils.

Pistons are going to celebrate tonight baby. Get those Miami hoes and bubbly out mudda****as. Time to go hit those clubs and stwock those fine latin thicky thick girls.
http://www.bballone.com/timd/spurs/images/spurs96_black.jpg

timmy says: that isnt very fundamental of them

I'd say Brown is a ****ing genius as well dude.
Sitting out players and letting the top guys
take charge of game 7. GENIUS


I'm glad we can share this victory together man. What a great game. I concur, Brown is in fact a genius. Rasheed and Chauncey just had ice water in their veins. If we play how we played down the stretch of that game its lights out Spurs.

I'm glad we can share this victory together man. What a great game. I concur, Brown is in fact a genius. Rasheed and Chauncey just had ice water in their veins. If we play how we played down the stretch of that game its lights out Spurs.

Yeah, how sweet it is man...
I was monitoring the game through the internet
while I was in a meeting, and I got goose bumps all over
during the last 4 minutes. WHAT A GAME BY THE CHAMPS !!!

I'm glad we can share this victory together man. What a great game. I concur, Brown is in fact a genius. Rasheed and Chauncey just had ice water in their veins. If we play how we played down the stretch of that game its lights out Spurs.

I didn't see the game, but hopefully they didn't burn themselves out in that game. Think Illinois v Arizona. They played so awesome at the end to win the game, then ****ed up against NC.

I'm glad we can share this victory together man. What a great game. I concur, Brown is in fact a genius. Rasheed and Chauncey just had ice water in their veins. If we play how we played down the stretch of that game its lights out Spurs.
spurs are rested and they have arguably the best player in the league as well as the best supporting cast.AND they have the very best defence in the league

SPURS IN 5!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

spurs are rested and they have arguably the best player in the league as well as the best supporting cast.AND they have the very best defence in the league

SPURS IN 5!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Maybe, but the word you're looking for in your sig is "vain," not "vein."

Spurs in 5

spurs in 6, or maybe 7! i won't comment on miami's lost. let's just say the better team won. and i have to say that detroit's experience really showed here in game 7. i hope they win the finals but it's a very tough task. and spurs is a very good team!

Maybe, but the word you're looking for in your sig is "vain," not "vein."
yeah i guess you are right
i was gonna change that tommorow to another lyric but thanks for the heads up :cool:

Whatever *****es...this ****s gonna be over in 6. Detroit is going to steal one in SA, then we'll split at home, take a pivotal game 5 in SA, and finish dem mudda****as off in 6. Tim Duncan is going to get merc'd by Sheed.

Whatever *****es...this ****s gonna be over in 6. Detroit is going to steal one in SA, then we'll split at home, take a pivotal game 5 in SA, and finish dem mudda****as off in 6. Tim Duncan is going to get merc'd by Sheed.
sheed aint on duncans level, duncan will dominate

Stick a spork in Detroit..

Stick a spork in Detroit..


we use chopsticks in the motor city...

Congrats...........to All The Pistons Fans

Good Game Last Night

we use chopsticks in the motor city...

You guys like sticks in the motor city, eh?

You guys like sticks in the motor city, eh?


I wouldn't say sticks so much...more liek twigs and small woodland creatures....things of that nature

:dance:

Miami Heat #1

Miami Heat #1
well they got beat so id say no higher than #3

Miami Heat #1

We finally agree with something..

Cotto will never be Tito, though, man. :o

well they got beat so id say no higher than #3



lmao yeah id say they've dropped out of contention for being #1...

Spurs #1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

oooops edit i put 3 in there.....im stupid

Spurs #1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

oooops edit i put 3 in there.....im stupid


I hope you still overlook Bad Boys II....thats just going to make it so much sweeter when we bust you up and repeat.

I hope you still overlook Bad Boys II....thats just going to make it so much sweeter when we bust you up and repeat.
i can overlook them all i want, the spurs arent going to however.
pops will have the pistons defeat in his playbook
timmy will be timmy and the series will be over.

i can overlook them all i want, the spurs arent going to however.
pops will have the pistons defeat in his playbook
timmy will be timmy and the series will be over.


The Pistons match up against the spurs much better than they do against Diesel and Wade.


You don't have anyone with sheer strength to kill us down low and you don't have anyone as quick and skilled at D-Wade.

Chauncey matches up well against Parker (however Paker doesn't against Chauncey)

Rip/Bowen/Ginobili/Tayshaun will probably cancel each other out

Sheed matches up well against Duncan because he's very long and Duncan isn't a lot stronger than him. Sheed's also crafty...

Wallace should help with Duncan and will keep Nazr Mohammed in check too.

You don't have anyone for McNice though....

We stand no chance against this higher power...sorry man, I'm ditching you.

http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/620650/images/boxers_derrick_gainer.jpg

We stand no chance against this higher power...sorry man, I'm ditching you.

http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/620650/images/boxers_derrick_gainer.jpg



lmfao...we need to get the help of juan manuel marquez to assist us in our quest to defeat "Gainer"

The Pistons match up against the spurs much better than they do against Diesel and Wade.


You don't have anyone with sheer strength to kill us down low and you don't have anyone as quick and skilled at D-Wade.

Chauncey matches up well against Parker (however Paker doesn't against Chauncey)

Rip/Bowen/Ginobili/Tayshaun will probably cancel each other out

Sheed matches up well against Duncan because he's very long and Duncan isn't a lot stronger than him. Sheed's also crafty...

Wallace should help with Duncan and will keep Nazr Mohammed in check too.

You don't have anyone for McNice though....
mcinjury is garbage, he wont be deciding ****, the spurs have the better team. offense/defense it doesnt matter cause the spurs are better at it. transition offense or transition defense aint no one touching the spurs.

spurs in 5

mcinjury is garbage, he wont be deciding ****, the spurs have the better team. offense/defense it doesnt matter cause the spurs are better at it. transition offense or transition defense aint no one touching the spurs.

spurs in 5


You're just lucky you got to play the Indianapolis Colts in the WCFs. The Pistons are going to repeat, there's nothing your boys can do about it. We are by far the best team, with the best coaching that you are going to have to play. I think your offense will look very anemic against the best defensive team in the league (pistons).

I could give a **** about transition defense because we don't get out and run as much as the Suns. We'll grind you down and beat you like we've done to every other one of these ***** ass teams.

You're just lucky you got to play the Indianapolis Colts in the WCFs. The Pistons are going to repeat, there's nothing your boys can do about it. We are by far the best team, with the best coaching that you are going to have to play. I think your offense will look very anemic against the best defensive team in the league (pistons).

I could give a **** about transition defense because we don't get out and run as much as the Suns. We'll grind you down and beat you like we've done to every other one of these ***** ass teams.
you are only lying to yourself

spurs are just the better team PERIOD.

you are only lying to yourself

spurs are just the better team PERIOD.


We've been over this...I owned you and you couldn't do anything about it.

Billups>Parker

Ginobili>Hamilton

Prince>Bowen

Duncan>Wallace

Wallace>Mohammed


Our bench>your bench


We are the definition of blue-collar, unselfish team basketball. Like I said before, we're going to handle you like we handled the Pacers last year.

Hey old gringo,

i dont have much but do you want to make a small wager on the series?


1 mill on the spurs

Billups>Parker

Ginobili>Hamilton

Prince>Bowen

Duncan>Wallace

Wallace>Mohammed


Our bench>your bench

Fix you are so much smarter than me, i know the pistons will lose
We are the definition of blue-collar, unselfish team basketball. Like I said before, we're going to handle you like we handled the Pacers last year.

thankyou OG :D

btw
parker = billups
ginobli > rip
bowen < tayshaun
Duncan >>>>>>>> sheed
nazr < ben wallace

spurs bench >>>> pistons bench

spurs defence >>>>>> pistons defense

spurs offense >>>>>>> pistons defense

and plus pistons head coach is a complete ******* who isnt focusing on his team when they are this deep in the playoffs

There's no way Detroit will win the finals. The only reason Detroit is in the finals is because Wade was hurt. The Spurs are the best defensive team in the NBA and the highest scoring team in the playoffs. During the season, their 1 and 1. That's only because Duncan sprained his ankle in the first quarter of that game and was unable to play. The bench will be the deciding factor in these finals. The Spurs have the better bench. Spur in 5.

thankyou OG :D

btw
parker = billups
ginobli > rip
bowen < tayshaun
Duncan >>>>>>>> sheed
nazr < ben wallace

spurs bench >>>> pistons bench

spurs defence >>>>>> pistons defense

spurs offense >>>>>>> pistons defense

and plus pistons head coach is a complete ******* who isnt focusing on his team when they are this deep in the playoffs


Parker is not as good as Billups you are just trying to salvage whatever you can to make you team look better.

Parker:

Cumulative Playoff Statistics
37 minutes, 45% fg, 67% ft, 20% 3pfg(7-34), 18.7 ppg, 4.8 apg, 3.1 rpg, .94 spg, .06 bpg, 3.06 TO (4.0 in WCF's)


Billups:

39 minutes, 42% fg, 89% ft, 37% 3pfg(33-89), 18 ppg, 6.6 apg, 4.1 rpg, 1.0 spg, .22 bpg, 2.2 TO(1.8 in ECF's)


Chauncey was a 2nd team all defensive NBA during the regular season...now you tell me whos better.

There's no way Detroit will win the finals. The only reason Detroit is in the finals is because Wade was hurt. The Spurs are the best defensive team in the NBA and the highest scoring team in the playoffs. During the season, their 1 and 1. That's only because Duncan sprained his ankle in the first quarter of that game and was unable to play. The bench will be the deciding factor in these finals. The Spurs have the better bench. Spur in 5.


Excuses, excuses, excuses. I was waiting for someone to come out with them and unfortunately you are the only one who has so far. Wade had a "strained rib", thats the *******t of ***** injuries ever. I played varsity basketball with a strained groin (100x worse injury) for 3 games and didn't make excuses.

If you can give anything other than excuses then maybe you'll have some credibility in this argument. Nobody ever won a championship without playing through injuries and fatigue.

And let me revise my list since we're doing it like this...


Chauncey>>>>>>Parker

Ginobili>Hamilton

Tayshaun>Bowen

Duncan>>>>>>>Wallace

Wallace>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Mohammed

Pistons bench>Spurs bench

Spurs offense>>Pistons offense

Pistons defense>>Spurs defense

Pistons head coach>>Spurs head coach

Pistons fans>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Spurs fans

Pistons heart>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Spurs heart

Pistons history>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Spurs history

Parker is not as good as Billups you are just trying to salvage whatever you can to make you team look better.

Parker:

Cumulative Playoff Statistics
37 minutes, 45% fg, 67% ft, 20% 3pfg(7-34), 18.7 ppg, 4.8 apg, 3.1 rpg, .94 spg, .06 bpg, 3.06 TO (4.0 in WCF's)


Billups:

39 minutes, 42% fg, 89% ft, 37% 3pfg(33-89), 18 ppg, 6.6 apg, 4.1 rpg, 1.0 spg, .22 bpg, 2.2 TO(1.8 in ECF's)


Chauncey was a 2nd team all defensive NBA during the regular season...now you tell me whos better.
2 championships in 6 years speaks for itself

btw pistons have some of the worst fans plain and simple. the fans are the reason for that huge ass fight that got ron artest suspended without pay for a year.

spurs in 5

And let me revise my list since we're doing it like this...


Chauncey>>>>>>Parker

Ginobili>Hamilton

Tayshaun>Bowen

Duncan>>>>>>>Wallace

Wallace>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Mohammed

Pistons bench>Spurs bench

Spurs offense>>Pistons offense

Pistons defense>>Spurs defense

Pistons head coach>>Spurs head coach

Pistons fans>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Spurs fans

Pistons heart>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Spurs heart

Pistons history>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Spurs history
duncan>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pistons roster

this is gonna be thier 3rd championship in 7 years

btw chauncy is a toss away player who couldnt find a home because he is such a head case. sheed smokes some much weed it has affected his temperment, he is always lookin like he is a hard foul away from tears. ben wallace is like a small shaq without offense. tayshaun is ak47's *****..... and mcinjury is always injured i mean they guy isnt even as tough as VC

duncan>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pistons roster

this is gonna be thier 3rd championship in 7 years

btw chauncy is a toss away player who couldnt find a home because he is such a head case. sheed smokes some much weed it has affected his temperment, he is always lookin like he is a hard foul away from tears. ben wallace is like a small shaq without offense. tayshaun is ak47's *****..... and mcinjury is always injured i mean they guy isnt even as tough as VC


Oh yeah...resort to calling chauncey a toss away player because I was right and you were wrong on the Billups>>>>>>>>>>Parker argument.

That "toss away" player sure found a nice championship home with a big Finals MVP trophy sitting right there waiting for him.

Oh yeah...resort to calling chauncey a toss away player because I was right and you were wrong on the Billups>>>>>>>>>>Parker argument.

That "toss away" player sure found a nice championship home with a big Finals MVP trophy sitting right there waiting for him.

http://img273.echo.cx/img273/8313/chaunceyvsparker3uv.png
who leads most categories?????

2 championships in 6 years speaks for itself

btw pistons have some of the worst fans plain and simple. the fans are the reason for that huge ass fight that got ron artest suspended without pay for a year.

spurs in 5


What you are looking for is "passionate" fans. You don't come in the palace trying to **** with Ben Wallace. Artest tried to pull some bull**** and we showed that mother****er how grimey we get in D-Town.

http://img273.echo.cx/img273/8313/chaunceyvsparker3uv.png
who leads most categories?????



Whatever homey, Peyton Manning had a better season than Tom Brady but who won in the playoffs?


Who has better playoff numbers in all categories besides 2? CHAUNCEY BILLUPS.

What awards did Tony Parker win this season? OH yeah thats right nothing. Billups 2nd team all defensive NBA.

i mean its not like im lying, teams actually gave him up for nothing. 6 teams since 98 :eek:

Whatever homey, Peyton Manning had a better season than Tom Brady but who won in the playoffs?


Who has better playoff numbers in all categories besides 2? CHAUNCEY BILLUPS.

What awards did Tony Parker win this season? OH yeah thats right nothing. Billups 2nd team all defensive NBA.
this isnt football and id rather have parker.

no one cares about all defense 2nd team

i mean its not like im lying, teams actually gave him up for nothing. 6 teams since 98 :eek:



What does that matter now?


A throw away player who is one of the best PG's in the league, was a former 3rd overall pick, just won a championship, Finals MVP, and 2nd team all defensive NBA.


All you have is a little gay french point guard....you should be SO proud.

Not to mention that Chauncey is most well liked player in the league. He's boys with like half of the NBA...thats why they call him the mayor.

this isnt football and id rather have parker.

no one cares about all defense 2nd team


Whatever its a perfect comparison. Actually people do care about 2nd defensive team, you just don't because you are trying to argue a moot point about your teams PG who is inferior to Chauncey.

What does that matter now?


A throw away player who is one of the best PG's in the league, was a former 3rd overall pick, just won a championship, Finals MVP, and 2nd team all defensive NBA.


All you have is a little gay french point guard....you should be SO proud.

Not to mention that Chauncey is most well liked player in the league. He's boys with like half of the NBA...thats why they call him the mayor.

i dont care who he is friends with, he is prob so well liked cause half the league has already been his team mate and didnt get a chance to know him cause he was on the move. he moves around like chris gatling

btw tony parker is an alright defensive player but most of the slack is picked up by the spurs TWO FIRST TEAM DEFENDERS.

btw id like to see chauncy try to gaurd parkers first step and blazing speed.... there isnt a faster point in the league except maybe marbury

i dont care who he is friends with, he is prob so well liked cause half the league has already been his team mate and didnt get a chance to know him cause he was on the move. he moves around like chris gatling

btw tony parker is an alright defensive player but most of the slack is picked up by the spurs TWO FIRST TEAM DEFENDERS.



Chauncey just had to find the right system. You know this in your head but you just won't admit it because you have to make your boys look better (which they aren't). Chauncey is a bonafide player in the league now...he doesn't have to move anymore.

Keywords on Parker: ALRIGHT DEFENDER

btw id like to see chauncy try to gaurd parkers first step and blazing speed.... there isnt a faster point in the league except maybe marbury



btw i'd like to see Parkers little ***** ass guard 6'3 210 pound Billups who is built like a linebacker. Hes going to own his ass in the post all day long. Chauncey is pretty ****in quick too, in fact, he crossed over the quickest player in the league (Allen Iverson...not Parker or Marbury) at least 4 or 5 times in that series. He crossed him over twice in 1 possession actually.

I dont know though. J-Will is really fast off the dribble.

btw i'd like to see Parkers little ***** ass guard 6'3 210 pound Billups who is built like a linebacker. Hes going to own his ass in the post all day long. Chauncey is pretty ****in quick too, in fact, he crossed over the quickest player in the league (Allen Iverson...not Parker or Marbury) at least 4 or 5 times in that series. He crossed him over twice in 1 possession actually.
allen I is a two.....

chauncy aint that fast at all..... he is middle of the pack in terms of speed in the nba

Poll Results
Question: Who will win the NBA title?

Thanks for voting! 141088 votes since Jun 6 2005
Pistons 43% 60605 votes
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the world agrees with me


http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs2005/columns/story?columnist=stein_marc&id=2078645

nice little article about the nba finals

Poll Results
Question: Who will win the NBA title?

Thanks for voting! 141088 votes since Jun 6 2005
Pistons 43% 60605 votes
Spurs 57% 80483 votes

from ----- Yahoo! Sports: NBA


the world agrees with me


http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs2005/columns/story?columnist=stein_marc&id=2078645

nice little article about the nba finals



Allen Iverson was his teams POINT GUARD this year. He's a natural 2 I guess, but if not him, who was their teams PG? He did lead the team in assists, and Iguodala was the SG if I recall correctly.

I could give 2 ****s about what the world thinks. Did anyone besides me and the rest of Detroit think we were going to win it last year? NO...

Again, I could care less about how fast Chauncey is. He has quick handles and isn't an average defender by any means (like Parker is).

Once Tony Parker wins a Finals MVP and/or ices 4 straight free throws to put a game 7 series AWAY to bed then you can come at me with that Parker being on Billups level argument. Until then Billups>>>>>>>Parker.

Allen Iverson was his teams POINT GUARD this year. He's a natural 2 I guess, but if not him, who was their teams PG? He did lead the team in assists, and Iguodala was the SG if I recall correctly.

I could give 2 ****s about what the world thinks. Did anyone besides me and the rest of Detroit think we were going to win it last year? NO...

Again, I could care less about how fast Chauncey is. He has quick handles and isn't an average defender by any means (like Parker is).

Once Tony Parker wins a Finals MVP and/or ices 4 straight free throws to put a game 7 series AWAY to bed then you can come at me with that Parker being on Billups level argument. Until then Billups>>>>>>>Parker.
how bout whoever wins there second championship is the better pg

Excuses, excuses, excuses. I was waiting for someone to come out with them and unfortunately you are the only one who has so far. Wade had a "strained rib", thats the *******t of ***** injuries ever. I played varsity basketball with a strained groin (100x worse injury) for 3 games and didn't make excuses.

If you can give anything other than excuses then maybe you'll have some credibility in this argument. Nobody ever won a championship without playing through injuries and fatigue.


It's not an excuse, it's a reason and you know it's true. That's the reason why Miami's not in the finals. You know it's true, that's why you haven't commented on it.

good job by detroit...of course if wade was 100%, the final result mightve been different, or maybe not...either way, detroits going back to the finals, and they deserve it.

It's not an excuse, it's a reason and you know it's true. That's the reason why Miami's not in the finals. You know it's true, that's why you haven't commented on it.


That's bull****. I can say, if everyone on Detroit was 100% then they'd have won easily. I can also say that if the brawl incident hadn't have happened earlier this year that Miami wouldn't be a number one seed and they might not even be in the ECF's. I can make a **** load of excuses too but you're the only one doing that.

What do you mean I haven't commented on it. Wade had a strained rib muscle, which is a very minor injury as far as basketball goes. It doesn't have to do with your running and it doesn't affect your shot like you might think it would. I've played basketball my entire life and played at the varsity level for a very good HS team and have played with worse injuries than a strained rib. If Wade were so amazing he would have found a way to make his team win regardless of the injury. Wade was fine and took a game off so that he could come back as close to 100% as he could. I'd say Wade was at least 80% for that game and Shaq had a big time game and they still lost.

Again, do you make this many excuses for everything? Excuses are like *******s...everyones got one and they all stink.

good job by detroit...of course if wade was 100%, the final result mightve been different, or maybe not...either way, detroits going back to the finals, and they deserve it.


See this Alpha Male, no excuses here.

PG: Tony Parker is without question much quicker than Billups, and when he's on, he can get into the paint at will. He's also very adept at dishing the outlet pass once in the lane. Billups, on the other hand, is without a doubt much stronger physically and will probably be very effective posting up Parker. He's also a much more reliable free-throw shooter. Slight edge to Billups for his clutch play.

SG: I love the way both these guys play. Rip is the best player in the league at moving without the ball and his spot-up jumper is a thing of beauty. Manu has some of the best body control in the league. Add in the fact that he's left-handed and fearless and one can see why he's a beast on the court. He can be wild at times, but his hustle on both ends of the floor make up for that. Edge to Ginobili.

SF: What's interesting here is that they probably won't face each other all that much. Prince will probably be trying to contain Ginobili, while Bowen will be chasing Hamilton all over the court trying to stick a hand in his face. It is well known that they are two of the premier perimeter defenders in the league, but Prince's more well-rounded offense gives him the edge here.

PF: Tim Duncan is Tim Duncan. He has consistently improved with every series and has had time before the finals to heal his ankles. Sheed, like many have said, has been the x-factor for the Pistons. He has had some success defending Duncan in the past, but he was a little inconsistent offensively against Miami. He needs his A-game every night in order for the Pistons to beat the Spurs. Big edge to Duncan.

C: Nazr is a very nice garbage player who has helped the Spurs tremendously, especially on the offensive boards. (By garbage player, i don't mean he's garbage. Just that most of his points come from missed shots which he simply puts back, etc.) His offensive boards could play a key role. Ben Wallace is the anchor for the Piston's vaunting defense, and he will no doubt give Sheed help defending Duncan. Big edge to Wallace.

Bench: McDyess is a solid bench player and he along with Campbell give Detroit 12 more fouls to give on Duncan. I'm sure the Pistons will rotate Sheed, Wallace, McDyess, and Campbell to muscle and bully Duncan all series long, which could take its toll on Duncan. The Spurs bench is just as formidable with Udrih, who has had some nice moments in the playoffs. However, he has made some costly mistakes (look at the Denver series). He's iffy. Brent Barry has the capability to rain threes all night long and the Pistons have to respect that. When he's on fire, he spreads the offensive for the Spurs. Then ,of course, there's Big Shot Rob. Horry has been there all playoffs long for the Spurs, making key steals, rebounds, and of course, three-pointers. At the end of the game, he along with Parker, Ginobili, Bowen, and Duncan are the Spurs' best starting five. I give the slight edge to the Spurs.

Coach: Both have championship experience and are the two best coaches in the league, imo. Even.

I'm not gonna make an official prediction, but i know i'll be rooting for my Spurs.

how bout whoever wins there second championship is the better pg


Absolutely not. Whoever wins another championship is a better team. I don't get how you're still arguing abotu Parker. He really just isn't on Billups level right now. Maybe he could be in a few years but not right now. All you've done is shown those slightly different regular season numbers over and over...I could list a page of reasons and fact why Billups is a better PG right now. It's really easy to look good when you play alongside Duncan you know...

DETROIT STAND UP!!!!!!!!!!!!

I won real money off that and 10 million points..

They will win it all

again

DETROIT STAND UP!!!!!!!!!!

Chauncey Billups:

-Defending champ and Finals MVP

-2nd team all defensive NBA. A good perimeter defender as well as good against bigger guards down in the lane.

-Maybe the most clutch player in the league, example is icing 4 free throws against Miami to keep the lead and end the series in game 7. Also makes more off balance, pressure threes than anyone in the league right now. Theres a reason his nickname is Mr. Big Shot.

-6'3, 210 pounds and extremely strong. He's a very hard cover for anyone being that he is quicker than a lot of 2 guards, can shoot 3 pointers with the best, can post up smaller PG's, and gets to the line about 6 times per game in the regular season. He also has very underrated handles.

-Has completely changed his game from being a shoot first point guard to being a pass first, shoot second guy. Of course he can do both because he's that damned good. He is one of the better 3 point shooters in the league and can hit the mid-range jumper very well too.

-Came into a Pistons program which needed a leader and he has now unquestionably become that. He is the field general and play caller for this team. He and Ben Wallace are the heart and soul.

-Has averaged very good numbers in the playoffs (significantly better than in the reg. season) and showed that he could really step up as a big-time PG. Only 1.8 turnovers per game against a Miami Heat team that is excellent defensively.

-39 min, 42% fg, 89% ft, 37%3pfg, 18ppg, 6.6apg, 4.1rpg, 1.0spg, .22bpg, 2.2 TO in the playoffs.

Emphasizing individual matchups in this finals barely scratches the surface on the outcome of the series (yes, i know that statement kind of makes my previous, long post somehwat pointless). These two squads are about the team effort. It will come down to which team can limit turnovers and perform in the fourth quarter, not one-on-one situations.

Chauncey Billups:

-Defending champ and Finals MVP

-2nd team all defensive NBA. A good perimeter defender as well as good against bigger guards down in the lane.

-Maybe the most clutch player in the league, example is icing 4 free throws against Miami to keep the lead and end the series in game 7. Also makes more off balance, pressure threes than anyone in the league right now. Theres a reason his nickname is Mr. Big Shot.

-6'3, 210 pounds and extremely strong. He's a very hard cover for anyone being that he is quicker than a lot of 2 guards, can shoot 3 pointers with the best, can post up smaller PG's, and gets to the line about 6 times per game in the regular season. He also has very underrated handles.

-Has completely changed his game from being a shoot first point guard to being a pass first, shoot second guy. Of course he can do both because he's that damned good. He is one of the better 3 point shooters in the league and can hit the mid-range jumper very well too.

-Came into a Pistons program which needed a leader and he has now unquestionably become that. He is the field general and play caller for this team. He and Ben Wallace are the heart and soul.

-Has averaged very good numbers in the playoffs (significantly better than in the reg. season) and showed that he could really step up as a big-time PG. Only 1.8 turnovers per game against a Miami Heat team that is excellent defensively.

-39 min, 42% fg, 89% ft, 37%3pfg, 18ppg, 6.6apg, 4.1rpg, 1.0spg, .22bpg, 2.2 TO in the playoffs.
most clutch player in the league? reggie retired but there still is robert horry.....chauncey aint nowhere near as clutch as him.... horry been making game winning shot his entire career.

but all this talk means nothing until the finals begins so ill just leave it at that......

Emphasizing individual matchups in this finals barely scratches the surface on the outcome of the series (yes, i know that statement kind of makes my previous, long post somehwat pointless). These two squads are about the team effort. It will come down to which team can limit turnovers and perform in the fourth quarter, not one-on-one situations.


Absolutely. Whoever gets to the line, limits second and third chance oppotunities, limits turnovers, and wants it more will win this.

Damn I said that this exact series will happen, with it going 6 games and the Pistons winning since last summer. It will be very good to watch either way.

most clutch player in the league? reggie retired but there still is robert horry.....chauncey aint nowhere near as clutch as him.... horry been making game winning shot his entire career.

but all this talk means nothing until the finals begins so ill just leave it at that......


The last 2 years Chauncey Billups has probably been the most clutch player in the league.

Horry and Miller USED to be the most clutch, but show me all of those clutch situations where they won games or put **** into overtime last/this season and then you can bring them up.

I know those guys have been incredibly clutch over the span of their careers and are way more clutch all-time, but not recently and thats what im talking about here....I'm talking about in the league right NOW.

The last 2 years Chauncey Billups has probably been the most clutch player in the league.

Horry and Miller USED to be the most clutch, but show me all of those clutch situations where they won games or put **** into overtime last/this season and then you can bring them up.

I know those guys have been incredibly clutch over the span of their careers and are way more clutch all-time, but not recently and thats what im talking about here....I'm talking about in the league right NOW.
well the spurs are beating teams so handily, horry hasnt had an oppurtunity to win a game.

timmy is also very clutch, remember last year when he hit that fade away at the top of the key against the lakers than derek fisher hit the 4 tenths of a second shot. greatest finish to a game ever.

well the spurs are beating teams so handily, horry hasnt had an oppurtunity to win a game.

timmy is also very clutch, remember last year when he hit that fade away at the top of the key against the lakers than derek fisher hit the 4 tenths of a second shot. greatest finish to a game ever.



That's true. I wonder how the Spurs would have dealt with the Heat. We know that Shaq and Duncan like to go at it.

Oldgringo you get mad props from me...you said Detroit from the beginning.

I figure that Manu will be giving the Pistons a lot of headache
in the series, especially since he's been having a hell of a season.
Pistons ought not to concentrate solely on Timmy and overlook Manu too much. He will be key for the Spurs (along with Parker).

Oldgringo you get mad props from me...you said Detroit from the beginning.

So did I brother.
Me and OG have been screaming "Back to Back !" since the beginning of the season ;)

This will be a low-scoring, defensive-oriented series.
Pistons have 3 of the top 10 defenders in the league right
now, while the Spurs are a good defensive team too.
I don't see any team going over 100 points in any of the games.

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33235&page=2&pp=10

Here is my proof that I've always been a Detroit fan..

most clutch player in the league? reggie retired but there still is robert horry.....chauncey aint nowhere near as clutch as him.... horry been making game winning shot his entire career.

but all this talk means nothing until the finals begins so ill just leave it at that......

That guy still plays?! He was on the Rockets back in like.. 94-95 wasn't he? I stopped paying a lot of attention to basketball after the Bulls' run. (No, I'm not a ****ing fairweather fan, the Bulls are still my team, but why go ape**** about a losing team? No reason to talk about them)

That's true. I wonder how the Spurs would have dealt with the Heat. We know that Shaq and Duncan like to go at it.
imo they would have canceled eachother out, the spurs have the better supporting cast so id say the spurs would have won a tight series.

That guy still plays?! He was on the Rockets back in like.. 94-95 wasn't he? I stopped paying a lot of attention to basketball after the Bulls' run. (No, I'm not a ****ing fairweather fan, the Bulls are still my team, but why go ape**** about a losing team? No reason to talk about them)
yeah, i believe he was only in his second and third year when the rockets went back to back.

Deeeeetroooooiittttt Basketbaaaaaaalllllllll..............
Beat them Spurs !

I feel so sorry for the Spurrs...

Detroit will end their career...

yeah, i believe he was only in his second and third year when the rockets went back to back.

Yeah, he was ****ing good. If I remember correctly, he wasn't a bad post shooter, either. I could be way off, though, it's been a long time since I really paid attention.

Yeah, he was ****ing good. If I remember correctly, he wasn't a bad post shooter, either. I could be way off, though, it's been a long time since I really paid attention.
he was a good player but everyone thought he was better than he actually was, pheonix even tried to make a star but danny ainge got a towel in the face

the reason Detroit won was all the starting 5 players for Miami where injured even then they struggled.

they didnt win the championship last year, LA just lost it.

also the NBA season is officially over last year people barely tuned in to watch Kobe and Shaq they definently dont want to see the Pistons.

i think its going to be a great series, this isnt going to be one sided, both teams are match-up well against eachother.
i cant remember a really close finals since bulls-jazz x's 2 in 97-98

i think its going to be a great series, this isnt going to be one sided, both teams are match-up well against eachother.
i cant remember a really close finals since bulls-jazz x's 2 in 97-98
Yes right on. Should be interesting to watch.

i think its going to be a great series, this isnt going to be one sided, both teams are match-up well against eachother.
i cant remember a really close finals since bulls-jazz x's 2 in 97-98

You're wrong, Detroit will make it one sided!:D:D

You're wrong, Detroit will make it one sided!:D:D
yeah probably the pistons are nothing like the mighty spurs and the pistons inferior play might make this series very one sided
:D

SPURS IN 5!!!!!!!!

yeah probably the pistons are nothing like the mighty spurs and the pistons inferior play might make this series very one sided
:D

SPURS IN 5!!!!!!!!

I think you meant

PISTONS IN 5!!!!!!!!!

LOL!

the reason Detroit won was all the starting 5 players for Miami where injured even then they struggled.

they didnt win the championship last year, LA just lost it.

also the NBA season is officially over last year people barely tuned in to watch Kobe and Shaq they definently dont want to see the Pistons.



could you be a bigger douchebag?

every player on the pistons was injured too in one way or another, but they played through it...like every NBA star/player should.

i love that they keep succeeding because it keeps fairweather fans and armchair warriors like you from watching the real players play. go attach yourself back on kobe and vinces nuts.

I think you meant

PISTONS WILL GET BEAT IN 5!!!!!!!!!

LOL!

i fixed your post for you, the corrections are made in bold in the quotation

yeah probably the pistons are nothing like the mighty spurs and the pistons inferior play might make this series very one sided
:D

SPURS IN 5!!!!!!!!



Pistons are going to pull off another 5 game sweep and then every ignorant **** like this otto character can come say that the Spurs just imploded and lost it themselves.

Actually I think the Pistons win in 6 but we'll see. Dem ****s starts tommorow night...Fix are you excited to see your boys get beat at home?

FIX....Wanna make another bet?:D

I got Detroit..

Pistons are going to pull off another 5 game sweep and then every ignorant **** like this otto character can come say that the Spurs just imploded and lost it themselves.

Actually I think the Pistons win in 6 but we'll see. Dem ****s starts tommorow night...Fix are you excited to see your boys get beat at home?
spurs lose at home :confused: lol they was 38-3 at home this year, good luck to the pistons with that.

FIX....Wanna make another bet?:D

I got Detroit..
nah i already got 25 mil on it with thrilla

spurs lose at home :confused: lol they was 38-3 at home this year, good luck to the pistons with that.


They bout to get they fif god dammit (the suns beat them in game 4 too)

They bout to get they fif god dammit (the suns beat them in game 4 too)

the spurs were up 3-0 when they cut the suns some slack and didnt play the way they could. this is the finals the spurs will show no mercy on the pistons. it dont matter if they lose every single game in detroit because san antonio will handle buisness at home.

here is the way i see the series going

game 1- san antonio 88-79
game 2- san antonio 94-86
game 3- detroit 79-76
game 4- san antonio 101- 97.... thats right a point total over 100
game 5- detroit 84-80
game 6- san antonio 95-83

i know ive been saying this series is over in 5 but i think this was is more realistic

the spurs were up 3-0 when they cut the suns some slack and didnt play the way they could. this is the finals the spurs will show no mercy on the pistons. it dont matter if they lose every single game in detroit because san antonio will handle buisness at home.

here is the way i see the series going

game 1- san antonio 88-79
game 2- san antonio 94-86
game 3- detroit 79-76
game 4- san antonio 101- 97.... thats right a point total over 100
game 5- detroit 84-80
game 6- san antonio 95-83

i know ive been saying this series is over in 5 but i think this was is more realistic


Ill bet you every single point you have in your bank that SA doesn't go over 100 in the palace.

Det 88-83
SA 91-85
Det 84-79
SA 86-82
DET 94-87!!!
Det 89-82

Pivotal game 5 that Detroit will win. I've been saying this since last summer. If I'm correct it'll almost be as good as my Super Bowl prediction.

Agreeed

DETROIT IN 6!

Spurs in 5

Spurs in 5

put your money where your mouth is

(money as in points)

i think its going to be a great series, this isnt going to be one sided, both teams are match-up well against eachother.
i cant remember a really close finals since bulls-jazz x's 2 in 97-98

I know I keep going off topic, but people keep bringing up things I know about.

That was, by far, the best finals I've ever seen. The Jazz played their hearts out, but the Bulls just had more talent. Rodman, Jordan, Pippen, Harper. The center sucked. (Longley)

Hopefully the Spurs can make a competition out of this. Detroit's gonna take it.

Ill bet you every single point you have in your bank that SA doesn't go over 100 in the palace.

Det 88-83
SA 91-85
Det 84-79
SA 86-82
DET 94-87!!!
Det 89-82

Pivotal game 5 that Detroit will win. I've been saying this since last summer. If I'm correct it'll almost be as good as my Super Bowl prediction.
you cant be serious, there is no way the pistons will beat the spurs at home....twice
that just isnt happening OG.

FIX....Wanna make another bet?:D

I got Detroit..

I got Spurs, want to have a bet with me? i can make a bet up to 1 billion. i lost 500 mil and i have to get it back.

you cant be serious, there is no way the pistons will beat the spurs at home....twice
that just isnt happening OG.


It can happen and it will happen. I've seen it in my dreams for almost a year now. Kind of like Foreman saw himself regaining the HW championship when he made his comeback. everyone thought it was impossible and that he was a big joke but it happened and so will this dammit.

It can happen and it will happen. I've seen it in my dreams for almost a year now. Kind of like Foreman saw himself regaining the HW championship when he made his comeback. everyone thought it was impossible and that he was a big joke but it happened and so will this dammit.


ive seen and hit anjelina jolie in my dreams but i doubt that will ever happen....

spurs are flat out the better team

ive seen and hit anjelina jolie in my dreams but i doubt that will ever happen....

spurs are flat out the better team



On fastbreak Greg Anthony picked the Pistons to repeat...Legler picked the Spurs.

BTW the Pistons are letting up less fast break points on average than are the Spurs so what now biotch.

Oh yeah and they both said (Legler and Anthony) that Richard Hamilton is BY FAR the best offensive player that Bruce Bowen will have to guard in the playoffs because of his movement without the ball and ability to make the 18 foot jumper. Thats right BETTER than Carmelo, BETTER than Ray Allen, BETTER than Shawn Marion....

Oh yeah and they both said (Legler and Anthony) that Richard Hamilton is BY FAR the best offensive player that Bruce Bowen will have to guard in the playoffs because of his movement without the ball and ability to make the 18 foot jumper. Thats right BETTER than Carmelo, BETTER than Ray Allen, BETTER than Shawn Marion....
dont matter bowe can shut them all down, carmelo did what? ray allen did what? shawn marion did what? none of these did **** in the playoffs against bowen PERIOD.

btw steve kerr and the world picked the spurs