View Full Version : HEAVYWEIGHTS have no weight limits!


hectari
06-06-2005, 07:56 PM
I understand the divisions but heavy's can come in any weight that want as long as it is over 200 pounds correct? Do you think the size advantage is not fair? how come they are allowed to fight guys 2 times there size?

TheGreat1
06-06-2005, 08:07 PM
I think it's fair, there are advantages and disadvantages to those sizes, Both Bryd (208) and VK (250)show how both can be effective or just a burden. Bryd will allways have the speed and stamina over the bigger guys, while the big guys, will have the power, it makes for very good fights. I aways liked watching Holyfield beat up bigger fighters, same with bryd.

hectari
06-06-2005, 08:32 PM
I think it's fair, there are advantages and disadvantages to those sizes, Both Bryd (208) and VK (250)show how both can be effective or just a burden. Bryd will allways have the speed and stamina over the bigger guys, while the big guys, will have the power, it makes for very good fights. I aways liked watching Holyfield beat up bigger fighters, same with bryd.

Man EVANDER Is my favorite Heavyweight that guy had so much heart!

Imagine a guy who weighed 126 fighting a guy 135 that would be a big disadvantage for the 126 pounder and it aint even that much weight difference it just seems stranger that heavys fight guys 50 pounds heavier some times and can still ko them or win.

drez24
06-06-2005, 08:36 PM
Is it fair? ask Jameel McCline.

YoungTurk
06-06-2005, 08:36 PM
The heavyweights go in with that expectation, its what they are always used to, though now it would be wise to have a super heavyweight division. People evolve, get bigger. They've made adjustments to heavyweight being 200 lbs and up now. And if we start getting good quality 250 lb fighters (like a lot) and 200 lb fighters, the divisions could begin to create themselves to an extent.

I do not know how anybody is supposed to fight this 7'2 man Valuev. Though I figure he will probably lose to someone and go away, that is some height advantage!

sisforshaq
06-06-2005, 09:20 PM
I understand the divisions but heavy's can come in any weight that want as long as it is over 200 pounds correct? Do you think the size advantage is not fair? how come they are allowed to fight guys 2 times there size?

Roy Jones weighed in at 193 when he fought Ruiz, although he was really 200. They let the fight go on even though he was below 200.

Boxerdog
06-06-2005, 09:33 PM
The heavyweights go in with that expectation, its what they are always used to, though now it would be wise to have a super heavyweight division. People evolve, get bigger. They've made adjustments to heavyweight being 200 lbs and up now. And if we start getting good quality 250 lb fighters (like a lot) and 200 lb fighters, the divisions could begin to create themselves to an extent.

I do not know how anybody is supposed to fight this 7'2 man Valuev. Though I figure he will probably lose to someone and go away, that is some height advantage!

NO NEW DIVISIONS!
Maybe another weight limit adjustment is in order but don't keep on tweeking something that works pretty well. Size has it's advantages but drawbacks too. Big guys have been getting their asses whipped since Jess Willard's time by smaller men.
I am a big S.O.B. myself and the guy that gave me the most trouble ever in a street fight went 180....crazy bastard just kept getting up and trying to kick my ass. Put some serious lumps on my head too! :D

hectari
06-06-2005, 10:05 PM
NO NEW DIVISIONS!
Maybe another weight limit adjustment is in order but don't keep on tweeking something that works pretty well. Size has it's advantages but drawbacks too. Big guys have been getting their asses whipped since Jess Willard's time by smaller men.
I am a big S.O.B. myself and the guy that gave me the most trouble ever in a street fight went 180....crazy bastard just kept getting up and trying to kick my ass. Put some serious lumps on my head too! :D


Big guys seem to have trouble with smaller fighters and bigger guys have crappy stamina.

Boxerdog
06-06-2005, 10:09 PM
Bingo.there are advantages and disadvantages. It all comes out pretty evenly.

hectari
06-06-2005, 10:14 PM
Bingo.there are advantages and disadvantages. It all comes out pretty evenly.

The heavy guy will always have the bigger punch that one punch ko.

buff_mike10
06-06-2005, 10:48 PM
Marciano was one of the hardest punchers ever and he weighed 180, Tyson in his prime was 215, those really big guys just can't get the speed, and it takes speed for power

snipes12
06-06-2005, 11:28 PM
its really nice to see a 5'9-6'2 guy beating up a 6'6 - 7'5 guys heavier guys that's why super hw is not needed anymore,

Manny_P
06-06-2005, 11:34 PM
but if anotha division is to be added, that would jest bring down the already sucky heavyweight division wont it?

Inhaler
06-06-2005, 11:51 PM
I think it's fair, there are advantages and disadvantages to those sizes, Both Bryd (208) and VK (250)show how both can be effective or just a burden. Bryd will allways have the speed and stamina over the bigger guys, while the big guys, will have the power, it makes for very good fights. I aways liked watching Holyfield beat up bigger fighters, same with bryd.

Byrd, not Bryd.

hectari
06-07-2005, 12:31 AM
I would not want a superheavyweight division heavyweights are already sluggish and slow to begin with who would wanna watch even slower fatter guys go at it?

Kid Achilles
06-07-2005, 12:33 AM
"The heavy guy will always have the bigger punch that one punch ko."

Actually that couldn't be further from the truth. The best and hardest punches have all been below 230 lbs. Earnie Shavers weighed 210-220. Same with Foreman. Dempsey and Marciano were both under 200 and Louis was about 208 at his best.

Don't forget that 270 lb Carnera was a terrible puncher and McCline is not a KO guy either.

TheGreat1
06-07-2005, 05:28 AM
Byrd, not Bryd.

you don't know who bryd is? He is the heavyweight champion of the world. He has been in with Both Klits, Ike, McCline, Golota, Hard hitting tua. Everyone, is still champ. I can't think of too many fighters in the Div smaller them him.