If Felix Sturm is successful in defeating Cherifi tonight then he will meet Trinidad at MSG sometime in March. The card will be broadcast on HBO PPV with Fernando Vargas as it's main support. I can't believe Sturm is going to get his chance at greatness once again!! As long as he can defeat Cherifi tonigt nothing will get in the way of this fight being made.

What happend to Winky-Tito?

sturm aint worthy enough.

sturm aint worthy enough.

But he is a real middle and beat Oscar...

Isn't Sturm-Cherifi tomorrow?

i dont care if ppl say he wont fight a natural middleweight sturm will get ktfo the first punch of the fight.

Isn't Sturm-Cherifi tomorrow?
yeah and then hes gonna get served march 12th

But he is a real middle and beat Oscar...

If beat means "lost to".

You don't win on just jabbing. Did you see the fight?

If beat means "lost to".

You don't win on just jabbing. Did you see the fight?
thats all this guy can do he has no power.

What happend to Winky-Tito?

I was wondering the same myself...He chatted with us at ********** and made it sound like a fight with Tito was a done deal. Maybe Tito is looking for an easy way out but he picked the wrong man this time. I just checked out boxrec.com and saw Sturm is scheduled to face Tito on March 12th but doesn't reveal the location...maybe Puerto Rico ;)

Trinidad is nothing special, a dancing puerto rican, big deal. When the going gets tough he folds like construction paper, via Hopkins, and end rounds of Oscar DLH. Sturm is a true warrior and just might be the reason Trinidad stays in retirement.

Trinidad is nothing special, a dancing puerto rican, big deal. When the going gets tough he folds like construction paper, via Hopkins, and end rounds of Oscar DLH. Sturm is a true warrior and just might be the reason Trinidad stays in retirement.
sturm is a true warrior gimme a break one punch from trinidad and hes gonna wish he was puerto rican.

Isn't Sturm-Cherifi tomorrow?

Yeah and I believe there's going to be a live online broadcast along with European HVY title fight Hoffman vs Kasniqi.

Trinidad is nothing special, a dancing puerto rican, big deal. When the going gets tough he folds like construction paper, via Hopkins, and end rounds of Oscar DLH. Sturm is a true warrior and just might be the reason Trinidad stays in retirement.


Amen Brother! :cool:

Sturm wins a close UD even though he'll win 8 of 12 rds.

Trinidad is nothing special, a dancing puerto rican, big deal. When the going gets tough he folds like construction paper, via Hopkins, and end rounds of Oscar DLH. Sturm is a true warrior and just might be the reason Trinidad stays in retirement.


I believe you know nothing about Trinidad. When has he folded? When has he ducked anyone or looked afraid? Hopkins beat him but he was a warrior until the end. The latter rouds of the fight with DLH were won by Trinidad, so your post makes no sense. Last but not least, I think that Sturm is a great boxer but the guy has no chance of sending Trinidad back into retirement.

I believe you know nothing about Trinidad. When has he folded? When has he ducked anyone or looked afraid? Hopkins beat him but he was a warrior until the end. The latter rouds of the fight with DLH were won by Trinidad, so your post makes no sense. Last but not least, I think that Sturm is a great boxer but the guy has no chance of sending Trinidad back into retirement.


Aaaah!! A flashback of bad DLH-Sturm predictions...The retirement part is just plain stupid but anyone who thinks Trinidad is going to KO Sturm is sadly mistaken. Please Judges...Be fair to Sturm this time.

Aaaah!! A flashback of bad DLH-Sturm predictions...The retirement part is just plain stupid but anyone who thinks Trinidad is going to KO Sturm is sadly mistaken. Please Judges...Be fair to Sturm this time.

Sturm will get KO if he stands toe to toe like he did against DLH...wanna bet on that?

Aaaah!! A flashback of bad DLH-Sturm predictions...The retirement part is just plain stupid but anyone who thinks Trinidad is going to KO Sturm is sadly mistaken. Please Judges...Be fair to Sturm this time.
Don't worry there won't be a need for judges once Tito knocks him out.
He going to show Oscar how it gets done.

If beat means "lost to".

You don't win on just jabbing. Did you see the fight?

Jabs mean alot when your opponent doesn't land hardly anything. Sturm did more than jab also but the jab was his main weapon while Oscar threw combinations that landed on the elbows, forearms and the gloves of Sturm. Last time I checked those are not scoring blows.

Don't worry there won't be a need for judges once Tito knocks him out.
He going to show Oscar how it gets done.
exactly 1 punch and sturms career is over.

exactly 1 punch and sturms career is over.
First let's see how he does with Cherifi. If he wins convincingly then let's talk about Tito & Sturm. If not let's talk about Tito & Winky.

exactly 1 punch and sturms career is over.

I actually think Sturm will give Trinidad a tough fight but will eventually be TKO'ed. Trinidad is just too strong for him.

i like both sturm and tito but i think i would want sturm to win just cuz he's young and many doubt him ...but i think tito gonna win..i just dont think it will be as easy as everyone saids..i mean come on sturm is pretty good he has chance..but doubt even if he wins the fight that he would get the UD (cuz of don king)....anway all of this doesnt prepare tito for hopkins..and tito (sadly to say) will get KTFO by hopkins even sooner this time around

Sturm will get KO if he stands toe to toe like he did against DLH...wanna bet on that?

Of course he will but you assume he fights like that all the time. I saw his two fights prior to DLH and he was on his toes for the majority of both fights. It's hard to argue Sturm with people who have only seen him fight once. I don't blame you either...his fights are very hard to come by.

anway all of this doesnt prepare tito for hopkins..and tito (sadly to say) will get KTFO by hopkins even sooner this time around

Why fighting Sturm will not prepared Tito 4 Nard...Sturm is a real Middle right?

I don't think Hopkins will even hurt Trinidad if they fight again. Hopkins is not a power puncher, he accumulates punishment and this time Trinidad won't go headhunting like he did in 2001. He will make adjustments.

Of course he will but you assume he fights like that all the time. I saw his two fights pervious to DLH and he was on his toes most of the fight. It's hard to argue Sturm with people who have only seen him fight once. I don't blame you either...his fights are very hard to come by.

U are right...I only seen him fight once. Will the Sturm-Cherifi fight be televised?

Trinidad is nothing special, a dancing puerto rican, big deal. When the going gets tough he folds like construction paper, via Hopkins, and end rounds of Oscar DLH. Sturm is a true warrior and just might be the reason Trinidad stays in retirement.
Yeah, he folds just like Tszyu to Vince Phillips, right? :rolleyes:

Listen, Tito's power is the most underrated thing in boxing. People still don't learn after watching him KO so many mofos. Look at Vargas (first and 12th round), Joppy, and even DLH (who ran like a chicken, I might add). Everyone gets KO'd or runs once they feel the power Tito brings to the ring.

Sturm is a good fighter (still B level, but good) but is not on par with Tito. Tito KO's him in 9. That jab will only work for the first few rounds but when Tito sees that Sturm can't hurt him (and Sturm couldn't KO Ivan Calderon) then he will walk right through the punches and KO him.

This is sickening. Tito isn't "too strong" for Sturm...he's actually going to be the smaller man. Sturm has incredibly tight defense and a very strong torso. I will bet any one of you who is taking Tito that this fight doesn't end in a KO. Tito won't be able to adjust to that jackhammer jab down his throat all night. If Sturm puts a few more punches behind that great jab, he could definitely take a UD. It will be a close fight either way however.

U are right...I only seen him fight once. Will the Sturm-Cherifi fight be televised?


I was told the fight would be part of a live online broadcast but I think they decided to KO that idea. It'll be up for download a few hours after the fight on ************** for those of you who have DSL or Cable. Sturm has become on of the most popular fighters in Europe and shouldn't be overlooked by anyone including Tito.

Of course you can win a fight with just jabbing!
Its boring yes but if you dont get hit you can win it with the jab alone.

At least 70 percent of the posts in this thread are either plain stupid or, well, plain stupid. You guys don't know **** about Sturm yet you keep talking about how he's too weak and hasn't anything but an ok jab. I'm sick and tired of prooving you wrong over and over again.

Lets do it like this. I'll bet 250,000 on Sturm not getting KOed by Trindad if they fight each other next year. Any takers?

And if someone's interessted I'll do a RoundbyRound coverage of Sturm - Cherifi tonight.

Felix Sturm knocked Cherifi out cold in the 3rd round! More to come...BRING ON TITO!

Felix Sturm knocked Cherifi out cold in the 3rd round! More to come...BRING ON TITO!
Yeah I Just read about it. Man the Tito nuthuggerz will just say his opponent was garbage. I think it will be a competitive fight. Tito on the cards :cool:

Wow, good job by Sturm. Any way to get this fight?

By the way, I still say Trinidad beats him after a tough start.

Wow, good job by Sturm. Any way to get this fight?

By the way, I still say Trinidad beats him after a tough start.


I'll send whoever wants it a PM when it's available for download. I think Sturm loses a bad decision on the cards after a slow start. Quick combos from Sturm tonight... :D

Yeah, he folds just like Tszyu to Vince Phillips, right? :rolleyes:

Listen, Tito's power is the most underrated thing in boxing. People still don't learn after watching him KO so many mofos. Look at Vargas (first and 12th round), Joppy, and even DLH (who ran like a chicken, I might add). Everyone gets KO'd or runs once they feel the power Tito brings to the ring.

Sturm is a good fighter (still B level, but good) but is not on par with Tito. Tito KO's him in 9. That jab will only work for the first few rounds but when Tito sees that Sturm can't hurt him (and Sturm couldn't KO Ivan Calderon) then he will walk right through the punches and KO him.

Bernard Hopkins felt Tito Trinidad's power and I don't recall him running in the fight. Why didn't you mention him?



As far as the comment earlier on how Hopkins wouldn't hurt Tito if they met again in the ring...bull****. You act as if you need an iron glove to hurt Tito's weak chinned ass...and Hopkins already has exactly what it takes to out-do Tito. And Tito won't go head-hunting like he did in 2001, why the hell not? You think just because he saw he was successful by going to body with Ricardo Mayorga that he will become a body snatcher against Hopkins...I doubt it, Hopkins will kill'em with straight punches all night and then close distance and take him apart on the inside..



As far as Tito vs. Sturm goes, I see Tito winning a close decision, maybe even a gift decision. I think Sturm will terrorize him all night, though. I agree Sturm does have a Tight body, and if Tito tries to hunt for the body without first landing a jab, or blinding him with a straight punch he's going to get eaten by Sturm's jab..

Bernard Hopkins felt Tito Trinidad's power and I don't recall him running in the fight. Why didn't you mention him?



As far as the comment earlier on how Hopkins wouldn't hurt Tito if they met again in the ring...bull****. You act as if you need an iron glove to hurt Tito's weak chinned ass...and Hopkins already has exactly what it takes to out-do Tito. And Tito won't go head-hunting like he did in 2001, why the hell not? You think just because he saw he was successful by going to body with Ricardo Mayorga that he will become a body snatcher against Hopkins...I doubt it, Hopkins will kill'em with straight punches all night and then close distance and take him apart on the inside..



As far as Tito vs. Sturm goes, I see Tito winning a close decision, maybe even a gift decision. I think Sturm will terrorize him all night, though. I agree Sturm does have a Tight body, and if Tito tries to hunt for the body without first landing a jab, or blinding him with a straight punch he's going to get eaten by Sturm's jab..


If you are going to rewrite my post just quote me, then. I just can't take your opinion seriously since a lot of your posts show that you don't like Trinidad. Well, it's not that you don't like Trinidad, you hate him. Trinidad does not have a weak chin, he was dropped only once after 11 effective rounds by Hopkins. I never said that he would take Hopkins if he used body punches, so that came from you. I did not even guarantee that Trinidad would win, just that the rematch will be different and way more competitive.

At least 70 percent of the posts in this thread are either plain stupid or, well, plain stupid. You guys don't know **** about Sturm yet you keep talking about how he's too weak and hasn't anything but an ok jab. I'm sick and tired of prooving you wrong over and over again.

Lets do it like this. I'll bet 250,000 on Sturm not getting KOed by Trindad if they fight each other next year. Any takers?

And if someone's interessted I'll do a RoundbyRound coverage of Sturm - Cherifi tonight.


FINALLY! A sane person who actually knows something about Sturm. Did you see the fight today? I'm waiting for the download but I heard he was throwing quick combos. I'll bet everything I got on Sturm not getting KOed by Trinidad or anyone else for that matter.

FINALLY! A sane person who actually knows something about Sturm. Did you see the fight today? I'm waiting for the download but I heard he was throwing quick combos. I'll bet everything I got on Sturm not getting KOed by Trinidad or anyone else for that matter.


You must really be a diehard Sturm fan. That is some blind faith.

If you are going to rewrite my post just quote me, then. I just can't take your opinion seriously since a lot of your posts show that you don't like Trinidad. Well, it's not that you don't like Trinidad, you hate him. Trinidad does not have a weak chin, he was dropped only once after 11 effective rounds by Hopkins. I never said that he would take Hopkins if he used body punches, so that came from you. I did not even guarantee that Trinidad would win, just that the rematch will be different and way more competitive.


First off, I don't hate Tito Trinidad. No matter what you say, nothing can change that fact that he has a weak chin. I'll admit that he has alot of heart for staying up when he does get hurt and for having the ability to get up after getting knocked down, but face it the guy has a glass jaw, he just knows how to beat the count..
Obviously I misunderstood your post...If you said he will not go head-hunting like he did in 2001, what do you think he will do more of, and how can you justify your assumption?

First off, I don't hate Tito Trinidad. No matter what you say, nothing can change that fact that he has a weak chin. I'll admit that he has alot of heart for staying up when he does get hurt and for having the ability to get up after getting knocked down, but face it the guy has a glass jaw, he just knows how to beat the count..
Obviously I misunderstood your post...If you said he will not go head-hunting like he did in 2001, what do you think he will do more of, and how can you justify your assumption?

He will box more and move his head. Now he knows that Hopkins has a very good chin, so he won't think that he'll KO him easily like he KO's almost everyone. He will probably try to fight him like he fought Pernell Whitaker, round by round and thinking about the points. Also, he might choose not to follow Hopkins so much and fall prey to his counterpunching.

He will box more and move his head. Now he knows that Hopkins has a very good chin, so he won't think that he'll KO him easily like he KO's almost everyone. He will probably try to fight him like he fought Pernell Whitaker, round by round and thinking about the points. Also, he might choose not to follw Hopkins so much and fall prey to his counterpunching.
ARE YOU IN LOVE W/SLY?

ARE YOU IN LOVE W/SLY?


If you mean in love with most of the entertaining movies he makes, then yes.

He will box more and move his head. Now he knows that Hopkins has a very good chin, so he won't think that he'll KO him easily like he KO's almost everyone. He will probably try to fight him like he fought Pernell Whitaker, round by round and thinking about the points. Also, he might choose not to follow Hopkins so much and fall prey to his counterpunching.


Against a guy like Hopkins, he can't win anymore than 4 rounds (and that's if he's lucky)...

As far as the whole following thing goes, that's the only style Tito Trinidad knows. When the going gets tough, keep moving forward, keep chasing 'em..
So there is nothing he can do to nullify the counter-punching.

In their first fight Merchant made an excellent point. He said when Tito Trinidad fights, he counts on his power to play the difference, and when it doesn't...he's stuck.

I think Tito will start the fight trying to go by that gameplan you stated, but he'll quickly fall away from it after being frustrated.

If you mean in love with most of the entertaining movies he makes, then yes.
Oh cause his movies arent that great. Except for Rocky and FirstBlood

Against a guy like Hopkins, he can't win anymore than 4 rounds (and that's if he's lucky)...

As far as the whole following thing goes, that's the only style Tito Trinidad knows. When the going gets tough, keep moving forward, keep chasing 'em..
So there is nothing he can do to nullify the counter-punching.

In their first fight Merchant made an excellent point. He said when Tito Trinidad fights, he counts on his power to play the difference, and when it doesn't...he's stuck.

I think Tito will start the fight trying to go by that gameplan you stated, but he'll quickly fall away from it after being frustrated.

You never know. But at least you recognize that what I say could happen.

Oh cause his movies arent that great. Except for Rocky and FirstBlood


It's all about taste. For example, I like Evil Dead but it's not among my favorite flicks. On the other hand, there are several Stallone movies that I like a lot. Movies like Rocky III and IV, Rambo movies, Over The Top, Cobra, Get Carter, and so on. He is not my fave actor but he is in my top 3.

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Sweet avatar:)

It's all about taste. For example, I like Evil Dead but it's not among my favorite flicks. On the other hand, there are several Stallone movies that I like a lot. Movies like Rocky III and IV, Rambo movies, Over The Top, Cobra, Get Carter, and so on. He is not my fave actor but he is in my top 3.
Oh yeah Victory was a good one also!

Oh yeah Victory was a good one also!

That one I did not like much. But now you know why I have the avatars I have.

Christ, what a thing to do to your fighter, to have Tito ruin them. Sturm is going to wish he was David Reid by the end of this fight, which shouldn't last too long. Outside of a snappy jab and a little slick defense Sturm has nothing to offer.

I hate all of these crotch-nuggets that pop up and cop a feel on an upcoming fighters nuts anytime they do anything even moderately impressive. Sturms catch was outpointing an out of shape, unfocused De La Hoya. Big Deal.

I'm willing to bet that after Sturm feels that first Tito left hook he won't have the balls to stick out his chin like Mayorga but will instead run back to his corner, **** his pants and beg his corner to throw in the towel.

Stop overhyping this ********* pantywaste.

Wow, good job by Sturm. Any way to get this fight?

By the way, I still say Trinidad beats him after a tough start.


I just finished downloading the fight so PM me if you want it. Only highspeed users please... :cool: