Is it me? or is it boxingscene users in "training & Nutrition foru" are generally not dickheads like other forums. I rarely venture out of this forum, when i do i get bad karma and heaps of idiots on my back. residers in the T & N forum, give yaself a pat on the back,you guys are the true boxing fans of this site.
Sorry, for wasting your time,if you had 2 read this :D

Well, I think all forums on this site could use some improvement, attitude wise. That being said, it's definitely better in here.
I just wish there were more knowledgeable people in here, because it seems to me there are a LOT of training myths around, compared to other kinds of training forums. Maybe it's because boxing is such a conservative sport? A little more knowledge about the sciences behind training won't hurt anyone, the hearsay/personal experience angle just doesn't cut it, especially when it seems a lot of people in here are very INexperienced.. :)

Well, I think all forums on this site could use some improvement, attitude wise. That being said, it's definitely better in here.
I just wish there were more knowledgeable people in here, because it seems to me there are a LOT of training myths around, compared to other kinds of training forums. Maybe it's because boxing is such a conservative sport? A little more knowledge about the sciences behind training won't hurt anyone, the hearsay/personal experience angle just doesn't cut it, especially when it seems a lot of people in here are very INexperienced.. :)

good point, but remember boxing aint all about science, alot of great fighters were taught old skool, where each training session was struggle and a half. Look at Roy Jones SNR, hes a huge advocate of old skool training techniques...which obviosuly rubbed off on his son
You are right about inexperienced people, as a boxer most of these questions are novice and even pre-novice, like asking irrelevant stuff, like size of fist? and sore wrists? i thought this was boxing, not ballet.

Look at Roy Jones SNR, hes a huge advocate of old skool training techniques...which obviosuly rubbed off on his son
You are right about inexperienced people, as a boxer most of these questions are novice and even pre-novice, like asking irrelevant stuff, like size of fist? and sore wrists? i thought this was boxing, not ballet.

haha...couldn't agree with you more... :boxing: :boxing: :boxing:

Hey thanks for the pat on the back, how about some points :) I lost them all on Kosta

good point, but remember boxing aint all about science, alot of great fighters were taught old skool, where each training session was struggle and a half. Look at Roy Jones SNR, hes a huge advocate of old skool training techniques...which obviosuly rubbed off on his son
You are right about inexperienced people, as a boxer most of these questions are novice and even pre-novice, like asking irrelevant stuff, like size of fist? and sore wrists? i thought this was boxing, not ballet.

Oh,that's exactly my point though. The science of WHY a certain workout works. Like the thread where people said they'd dance around in a ballerina skirt if Joe Frazier told them to. Just because Joe Frazier or Roy Jones or whoever did something in their training, and they were great fighters, doesn't mean that it's a great thing to do, or that THAT was what made them great. Roy Jones had so much natural, raw, physical talent, he could have probably been great with a half bad training schedule (in theory, I have no idea how he trained really).
My point is that some great fighters are/were great IN SPITE of poor training, and some fighters are just semi good IN SPITE of great training.
WHY is one form of training better than another? If the answer is "because [insert your fave boxers name here] trains like that", then you're really saying you don't know shit. That's just hearsay,not knowledge.

WHY is one form of training better than another? If the answer is "because [insert your fave boxers name here] trains like that", then you're really saying you don't know shit. That's just hearsay,not knowledge.

Yep. Agreed...

at the sametime, man, we learn from the best, we can learn heaps from reading regimes of top class fighters.

Hey thanks for the pat on the back, how about some points :) I lost them all on Kosta


shit man, u lost some points, sorry to hear and see! how do you give someone points?

at the sametime, man, we learn from the best, we can learn heaps from reading regimes of top class fighters.

But you only learn from their regimes if you have basic training theory knowledge already. YOU can't/shouldn't train like Roy Jones. Mike Tyson shouldn't train like Roy Jones, heck Roy Jones at 36 shouldn't train like Roy Jones at 23. Get what I'm saying? You need basic insight into the sciences involved with training, to get anything meaningful out of somebody's training regime.
"this guy is great, and this is how he trains, I'm gonna be great if I train like that"... Doesn't work like that...

i didnt say 2 copy them, i said we can learn from them, take a leaf out of their book. Most of us have a ground knowledge of the sciencs behind training, i been boxing long enough 2 know what systems i should train, whether i concentrate on anaerobic or aerobic systems.. .etc... At the sametime if u have a credible trainer, who knows what hes on about, u could be dumb as a doorknob and still be a world champion, becos u taking orders from the best. Look at Jeff Harding, he prolly couldnt spell science. As a boxer he wasnt intelligent and had no style or grace about his technique so to speak, basically all he knew was that he had 2 be fit as possible and listen to his trainer Johhny Lewis to get anywhere. I neva said to copy Rjj, i hihglighted how Roy jones SNR was an advocate of old skool techniques.

i didnt say 2 copy them, i said we can learn from them, take a leaf out of their book. Most of us have a ground knowledge of the sciencs behind training, i been boxing long enough 2 know what systems i should train, whether i concentrate on anaerobic or aerobic systems.. .etc... At the sametime if u have a credible trainer, who knows what hes on about, u could be dumb as a doorknob and still be a world champion, becos u taking orders from the best. Look at Jeff Harding, he prolly couldnt spell science. As a boxer he wasnt intelligent and had no style or grace about his technique so to speak, basically all he knew was that he had 2 be fit as possible and listen to his trainer Johhny Lewis to get anywhere. I neva said to copy Rjj, i hihglighted how Roy jones SNR was an advocate of old skool techniques.
I hear you. I was just using RJJ as an example also. :)

shit man, u lost some points, sorry to hear and see! how do you give someone points?

You just have to click on the donate button on the Aviator, but don't give me any you don't have a lot so i'll hook you up with some once Cotto and Floyd get me points back.Good Karma you're way. :cool:

Is it me? or is it boxingscene users in "training & Nutrition foru" are generally not dickheads like other forums. I rarely venture out of this forum, when i do i get bad karma and heaps of idiots on my back. residers in the T & N forum, give yaself a pat on the back,you guys are the true boxing fans of this site.
Sorry, for wasting your time,if you had 2 read this :D

I have to agree with you. Non stop boxing is full of mostly "fans" who talk so much shit about something they never experienced.
If they were to get their ass in the ring, i guarantee their perspective of boxing and their opinions of boxers would change.
But, sadley, most of them dont have the balls to actually do that, and will continue to post ignorant ass shit. :rolleyes: