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Slipx
06-05-2005, 03:55 PM
hatton kind of reminds me of george foreman in the sense that he's a successful endomorph,that packs on alot of weight between fights but when its time to fight, they train their ass off and the pounds just come off...

the 3 body type attributes are like this

mesomorph -thats like all muscle and easy to gain muscle(medium metabolism)
ectomorph -is thin skeletonish and a little harder to gain muscle(high metabolism)
endomorph -is (low metabolism) ,you see extra weight on these people,however they gain muscle faster than an ectomorph

a fat guy busting his ass trying to get down to a certain weight will punch way harder than the natural junior welter,imo.

jack_the_rippuh
06-05-2005, 03:58 PM
How about James Toney back in the day?

Slipx
06-05-2005, 03:59 PM
yup toney too. imo toney is another great fighter thats an endo

paul750
06-05-2005, 04:00 PM
yup toney too. imo toney is another great fighter thats an endo
yeah but it didn't do him much good against roy jones jr :D

Slipx
06-05-2005, 04:02 PM
yeah but it didn't do him much good against roy jones jr :D

jones was like, the man, then ;)

seriously he was like invincible, his reflexes at that time were as good, or better,than any past great except maybe a prime willie pep

RwK
06-05-2005, 04:02 PM
James Toney = Endomorph
Lamon Brewster = Endomorph
Felix Trinidad = Ectomorph
Roy Jones Jr = Mesomorph
Oscar De La Hoya = Endomorph
Zab Judah = Mesomorph
Erik Morales = Ectomorph
Diego Corrales = Ectomorph
Winky Wright = Mesomorph
Shane Mosley = Mesomorph
Clinton Woods = Ectomorph
Antonio Tarver = Ectomorph
Klitschko Bros = Mesomorphs
Mike Tyson = Mesomorph

The Troll
06-05-2005, 04:03 PM
James Toney = Endomorph
Lamon Brewster = Endomorph
Felix Trinidad = Ectomorph
Roy Jones Jr = Mesomorph
Oscar De La Hoya = Endomorph
Zab Judah = Mesomorph
Erik Morales = Ectomorph
Diego Corrales = Ectomorph
Winky Wright = Mesomorph
Shane Mosley = Mesomorph
Clinton Woods = Ectomorph
Antonio Tarver = Ectomorph
Klitschko Bros = Mesomorphs
Mike Tyson = Mesomorph

My Latin is rusty.

Slipx
06-05-2005, 04:03 PM
knives is on point with that

i cant figure out what tszyu is...lol

welshwales
06-05-2005, 04:04 PM
Im an Endomorph. 310lbs at the mo :) normally fight at 250lbs

Slipx
06-05-2005, 04:07 PM
if youll notice most ectomorphs are more easily staggered than endos or mesos...cept morales..they lack that neck muscle i guess

jack_the_rippuh
06-05-2005, 04:11 PM
Are Hopkins and Mayweather like the cross between Ecto and Meso?

Slipx
06-05-2005, 04:14 PM
to really tell i think youd have to see a pic of em around age 14-15-16.b-hop without doubt looks ecto,but he's ripped so maybe hes a cross ;p

valuev,ruiz,golata,all endo also

hectari
06-05-2005, 05:03 PM
James Toney = Endomorph
Lamon Brewster = Endomorph
Felix Trinidad = Ectomorph
Roy Jones Jr = Mesomorph
Oscar De La Hoya = Endomorph
Zab Judah = Mesomorph
Erik Morales = Ectomorph
Diego Corrales = Ectomorph
Winky Wright = Mesomorph
Shane Mosley = Mesomorph
Clinton Woods = Ectomorph
Antonio Tarver = Ectomorph
Klitschko Bros = Mesomorphs
Mike Tyson = Mesomorph


^ you almost got it but let me correct you, we studied body types in college. You have to take into account bone structure, and the majority of people are a mix of bodytypes, They have ecto-meso,meso-endo, ecto-endo.

Oscar delahoya-ecto-endo/ his move up to 160 which if he really is 5 feet 10 would be average weight made him look chubby he has a small frame,160 is not much but on a person with smaller bones it can make them look 180.

Sugar shane mosley is a Ecto-meso/ when he gains he gains muscle he has tiny wrists and the frame of an ecto.

Tito trinidad is another ecto-endo.

Erik Morales is an Ecto-Endo as well although he has some pretty wide wrists wider then oscar and titos and he is only a featherweight.

See alot of these fighters are hard to tell cause alot of them loose 20 pounds from there natural off season weight to fight at a lowerweight class to have an advantage.

Joan guzman goes down to 122 pounds all the way from 155 pounds.


This guy is a Ectormorphmorphic-meso FRANK ZANE former mr olympia.
http://www.abodybuilding.com/images/fz40.jpg

Slipx
06-05-2005, 05:13 PM
this supposed to be endo......smell like outdo..-ice cube

Slipx
06-05-2005, 05:15 PM
and u cant tell what the hell zane is with that pic man..look at a pic of him at age 13-14 then u can tell.

that guy pumped so many steroids into his body to look like that ..

hes gonna have a heart attack soon if not already,like the majority of other bodybuilders,dropping dead at 50 b/c of all the juicing

paul750
06-05-2005, 05:20 PM
bertil fox was way better than that guy in the 80's

Slipx
06-05-2005, 05:22 PM
muscle mag reading ****.

hectari
06-05-2005, 05:24 PM
and u cant tell what the hell zane is with that pic man..look at a pic of him at age 13-14 then u can tell.

that guy pumped so many steroids into his body to look like that ..

hes gonna have a heart attack soon if not already,like the majority of other bodybuilders,dropping dead at 50 b/c of all the juicing

Frank zane is about 60 years old I believe.
Actually Zane was pretty natural his body is not roids induced if you look at the body builders now zane was known for his proportion. It took him along time to get that body. I have been a fan of bodybuilding and frank zane is a ecto-meso he said it many times especially at his seminars.

Looking at a person when they are 13 or 14 and not fully past puberty is the way to tell if there ecto,meso,endo Isnt it before puberty like under 13 years old?

hectari
06-05-2005, 05:26 PM
bertil fox was way better than that guy in the 80's

^ya but I would rather have Frank zanes body his or steve reeves.

Boxerdog
06-05-2005, 05:26 PM
James Toney = Endomorph
Lamon Brewster = Endomorph
Felix Trinidad = Ectomorph
Roy Jones Jr = Mesomorph
Oscar De La Hoya = Endomorph
Zab Judah = Mesomorph
Erik Morales = Ectomorph
Diego Corrales = Ectomorph
Winky Wright = Mesomorph
Shane Mosley = Mesomorph
Clinton Woods = Ectomorph
Antonio Tarver = Ectomorph
Klitschko Bros = Mesomorphs
Mike Tyson = Mesomorph
RunsWithKnives = Hermaphodite

J/K :D

paul750
06-05-2005, 05:28 PM
^ya but I would rather have Frank zanes body his or steve reeves.
i don't know man, did you see bertil fox at the 1983 mr olympia?, that was one of the biggest robberies ever.

Slipx
06-05-2005, 05:41 PM
Actually Zane was pretty natural

ahhahahahahahahahhaha

Slipx
06-05-2005, 05:44 PM
Im an Endomorph. 310lbs at the mo :) normally fight at 250lbs

i blowed up to 210 in panama eating pizza and drinking beer for a month

when i got home i had more power but was way slower

hectari
06-05-2005, 06:25 PM
i don't know man, did you see bertil fox at the 1983 mr olympia?, that was one of the biggest robberies ever.

^yes

They do not make body builders the same there physiques were nice to look at back then and natural now they go for the puffy blown up steroid look.

Bertil fox
http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/bertilfox/bertilfox5.jpg

paul750
06-05-2005, 06:30 PM
^yes

They do not make body builders the same there physiques were nice to look at back then and natural now they go for the puffy blown up steroid look.

Bertil fox
http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/bertilfox/bertilfox5.jpg
he was so pissed of he didn't go to the 1984 mr olympia, rick wayne said fox was in the shape of his life at that stage, i guess it was just never meant to be for bertil fox.

Slipx
06-05-2005, 06:30 PM
They do not make body builders the same there physiques were nice to look at back then and natural

roids have been in steady use since the 60s..

zane used em and all the other bodybuilders back then, used em

thats some funny **** how some people actually believe they are natural..lmao that reminds me of a little kid thinking wrestling is real or something

paul750
06-05-2005, 06:34 PM
roids have been in steady use since the 60s..

zane used em and all the other bodybuilders back then, used em

thats some funny **** how some people actually believe they are natural..lmao that reminds me of a little kid thinking wrestling is real or something
yes but compared to nowadays the guys in the 60's 70' and 80's had nothing, it's a whole different ball game now, it just wasn't the same back then to what it is now, science moves along very quickly, and people discover a lot in a short space of time.

Slipx
06-05-2005, 06:35 PM
science moves along very quickly, and people discover a lot in a short space of time.

exactly, meaning that new steroids were invented and forumulated and thats why they look different today.

bodybuilders have relied on steroids since the invention of it,thats why its a ***** sport..the reason they look different back then was a simpler form of roids

paul750
06-05-2005, 06:40 PM
exactly, meaning that new steroids were invented and forumulated and thats why they look different today.

bodybuilders have relied on steroids since the invention of it,thats why its a ***** sport..the reason they look different back then was a simpler form of roids
yes but the only reason they take these things is to keep up with the competition, that's what they need to do to take it serious, i just feel that because the bodybuilders didn't have the sort of drugs that are available nowadays, that most people will look back at them better, than the guys of today.

hectari
06-05-2005, 07:13 PM
roids have been in steady use since the 60s..

zane used em and all the other bodybuilders back then, used em

thats some funny **** how some people actually believe they are natural..lmao that reminds me of a little kid thinking wrestling is real or something


^see we do not know that for sure! You are only assuming and judging. They might have used roids but probally less amounts making them more natural looking.

Here are bodybuilders or strongmen who are completley natural I believe the excersice they starting using was more developed as time went on that is why they are not as impressive looking in certain areas of the body.

SANDOW
http://www.bodybuildingreviews.net/bodybuildingdoc/sandow.jpg

http://www.robertuniverse.com/davidgentle/images/sandow%20seated%20century.jpg

hectari
06-05-2005, 07:16 PM
yes but the only reason they take these things is to keep up with the competition, that's what they need to do to take it serious, i just feel that because the bodybuilders didn't have the sort of drugs that are available nowadays, that most people will look back at them better, than the guys of today.


^I agree CLASSIC PHYSIQUE always looks better then the ABNORMAL juiced up roid freaks with puffy muscles of today aka ronnie coleman he is huge but looks like a monster.

http://www.eskimo.com/~erics/Olympia2k2/image066.jpg

http://mr-olympia-2003.ronnie.cz/Img/System/coleman.jpg

Kid Achilles
06-05-2005, 09:02 PM
That **** looks fugly. I'll be honest, I would shoot myself in the head with a 12 gauge if I woke up with a body like that.

Slipx
06-05-2005, 09:18 PM
^see we do not know that for sure! You are only assuming and judging. They might have used roids but probally less amounts making them more natural looking.

Here are bodybuilders or strongmen who are completley natural I believe the excersice they starting using was more developed as time went on that is why they are not as impressive looking in certain areas of the body.

SANDOW
http://www.bodybuildingreviews.net/bodybuildingdoc/sandow.jpg

http://www.robertuniverse.com/davidgentle/images/sandow%20seated%20century.jpg
yea that guy didnt juice you can tell.

i bet that dude couldve had a good jab,look at those triceps

realheavyhands
06-05-2005, 10:23 PM
you wrong it not that simple ...almost all people are combinations of 2 of the 3...

hectari
06-06-2005, 01:06 AM
yea that guy didnt juice you can tell.

i bet that dude couldve had a good jab,look at those triceps


Ya his muscles are hard and natural so he probally hit harder then the steroid freaks.

Manny_P
06-06-2005, 01:08 AM
I think its safe to say that ThaGreatest is the biggest HOMOMORPH in this website!

RwK
06-06-2005, 01:18 AM
members of the obvious we left out:

Jirov = Endomorph
Vargas = Endomorph
Freitas = Im not sure. Can anyone guess? Because he is muscular, yet walks around at 170. I doubt the 30 odd pounds he loses prior to fight time are muscle.

Lacy = Obvious Mesomorph. He has to lose weight by atrophy.
Taylor = Endomorph
Lennox = Ectomorph: He was naturally lean at 240, and never really fluxuated much beyond the 260 range.

Ali = Endomorph: considering he had man boobs when he was not training

Tarver = Ectomorph
Joppy = Mesomorph
Harris = Mesomorph
Ayala = Ectomorph
Tapia = Endomorph
Morel = Ectomorph

As we get into the lower weights, distinguishing between the body styles becomes increasingly more difficult.

as for the DLH thing earlier in the thread: I suppose you have a point on his height and weight ratio: However, Oscar gains a considerable amount of fat when he is not training: I suppose your reasoning between him being a cross between ecto and endo. I still say though....he would lean closer to endo..because he lacks the lean muscular definition, as well as muscle mass that are characteristic of the two bordering classes: being Meso and Ecto.

And I personally think Hopkins would qualify as an ectomorph, considering he has the necessary frame size to compete at the 154lb weight class....despite him being 6'2.

realheavyhands
06-06-2005, 01:37 AM
all yall wrong n hopkins only 6'0 1/2

hectari
06-06-2005, 11:39 AM
members of the obvious we left out:

Jirov = Endomorph
Vargas = Endomorph
Freitas = Im not sure. Can anyone guess? Because he is muscular, yet walks around at 170. I doubt the 30 odd pounds he loses prior to fight time are muscle.

Lacy = Obvious Mesomorph. He has to lose weight by atrophy.
Taylor = Endomorph
Lennox = Ectomorph: He was naturally lean at 240, and never really fluxuated much beyond the 260 range.

Ali = Endomorph: considering he had man boobs when he was not training

Tarver = Ectomorph
Joppy = Mesomorph
Harris = Mesomorph
Ayala = Ectomorph
Tapia = Endomorph
Morel = Ectomorph

As we get into the lower weights, distinguishing between the body styles becomes increasingly more difficult.

as for the DLH thing earlier in the thread: I suppose you have a point on his height and weight ratio: However, Oscar gains a considerable amount of fat when he is not training: I suppose your reasoning between him being a cross between ecto and endo. I still say though....he would lean closer to endo..because he lacks the lean muscular definition, as well as muscle mass that are characteristic of the two bordering classes: being Meso and Ecto.

And I personally think Hopkins would qualify as an ectomorph, considering he has the necessary frame size to compete at the 154lb weight class....despite him being 6'2.

Lmao man the majority of those people you listed or CROSS between the body types!

Jeff lacy might be a endo-meso.

simeraksou
06-06-2005, 09:08 PM
if youll notice most ectomorphs are more easily staggered than endos or mesos...cept morales..they lack that neck muscle i guess
Ectomorphs are also the natural powerful punchers: thomas hearns, felix trinidad, julian jackson, etc. Usually punchers cannot take as good as they give

simeraksou
06-06-2005, 09:11 PM
this supposed to be endo......smell like outdo..-ice cube
regarding your stick man animation: a more realistic scenario is the guy who is carrying the gun gets jumped and has no time to pull out the gun and gets beaten to a pulp

simeraksou
06-06-2005, 09:15 PM
^see we do not know that for sure! You are only assuming and judging. They might have used roids but probally less amounts making them more natural looking.

Here are bodybuilders or strongmen who are completley natural I believe the excersice they starting using was more developed as time went on that is why they are not as impressive looking in certain areas of the body.

SANDOW
http://www.bodybuildingreviews.net/bodybuildingdoc/sandow.jpg

http://www.robertuniverse.com/davidgentle/images/sandow%20seated%20century.jpg
In the black and white picture, his abs have nothing to do with less advanced ab exercises. He just ate too many donuts

simeraksou
06-06-2005, 09:16 PM
^see we do not know that for sure! You are only assuming and judging. They might have used roids but probally less amounts making them more natural looking.

Here are bodybuilders or strongmen who are completley natural I believe the excersice they starting using was more developed as time went on that is why they are not as impressive looking in certain areas of the body.

SANDOW
http://www.bodybuildingreviews.net/bodybuildingdoc/sandow.jpg

http://www.robertuniverse.com/davidgentle/images/sandow%20seated%20century.jpg
In the black and white picture, his abs have nothing to do with less advanced ab exercises. He just ate too many donuts

simeraksou
06-06-2005, 09:16 PM
^see we do not know that for sure! You are only assuming and judging. They might have used roids but probally less amounts making them more natural looking.

Here are bodybuilders or strongmen who are completley natural I believe the excersice they starting using was more developed as time went on that is why they are not as impressive looking in certain areas of the body.

SANDOW
http://www.bodybuildingreviews.net/bodybuildingdoc/sandow.jpg

http://www.robertuniverse.com/davidgentle/images/sandow%20seated%20century.jpg
In the black and white picture, his abs have nothing to do with less advanced ab exercises. He just ate too many donuts