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enadeus
06-04-2005, 11:26 PM
The holding and lunging by Hatton was ridicolous. The low blow by Hatton should have been a DQ. Very ugly fight.

ottoevans
06-04-2005, 11:29 PM
what u expect they were in England

drez24
06-04-2005, 11:29 PM
The holding and lunging by Hatton was ridicolous. The low blow by Hatton should have been a DQ. Very ugly fight.

The ref was abysmal. But: for both fighters. He didn't even warn hatton or tszyu for either low blow, and there was a lot of holding and punching by both fighters.

!! Anorak
06-04-2005, 11:30 PM
I KNEW someone would say this. :)

I was going to have a "Zoo Nuthugger's Excuse Form" for you to select your favourites. If the referee was biased, then why didn't he penalise Zoo for the TWO low blows he did against Ricky earlier?

I will admit that Hatton should have been docked a point, maybe two, for that, but to suggest the referee helped the fight is ridiculous. Zoo was hitting and holding just as much.

Memorex
06-04-2005, 11:31 PM
Not To Mention Those Trinidad Elbows He Was Using. That Low Blow Was Nasty My God Ref Atleast Take A Point. This Wasnt Kostya Day Everything Was Working Against Him And Just Looked Old. O Yea Kostya's Jab Was Lazy

theironone
06-04-2005, 11:31 PM
He warned both several times for, holding, hitting on the break etc and the low blows.
But not what some would call a 'public warning', more of a slight handslap and get on with it

Nautilus
06-04-2005, 11:35 PM
The holding and lunging by Hatton was ridicolous. The low blow by Hatton should have been a DQ. Very ugly fight.



Too bad Kostya ever agreed to take this 2 am fight in GB with that attrocious judging. It was a bad idea for his age.

Anghell
06-04-2005, 11:36 PM
I thought that the Ref favored Hatton, but what did u expect?? i know Tzsyu expected it. That didn't cost Tzsyu the fight, he just didn't have it tonight

gnostic19
06-04-2005, 11:37 PM
Every time i see a big fight in England the ref manages to f it up somehow. That low blow could have been the beginning of the end for Kostya. That **** was cold rediculous and malicious.

loangunZ
06-04-2005, 11:44 PM
was it old age or could he have peaked from overtraining?

CUFreeze
06-04-2005, 11:47 PM
yeah it was definitely the ref...not hatton's smothering style or tszyu's exhaustion.

Cletus Funk
06-04-2005, 11:52 PM
Get a life you sad ****s. Hatton owned him from the first bell and it was **** all to do with the referee,they were both holding and hitting. I've just got back from the fight and there was absolutley nothing dubious about it. Hatton beat a legend at the end of his career,end of story.

riz
06-05-2005, 12:14 AM
i dont think it was the ref that made him stay o nteh stool
can't u jus accept that your fighter lost?

!! Anorak
06-05-2005, 12:15 AM
I dunno... I'm sure I saw the ref get in a couple of stiff jabs when no one was looking.

CUFreeze
06-05-2005, 12:35 AM
Just for the record I was being sarcastic.

mauricio95
06-05-2005, 12:37 AM
The holding and lunging by Hatton was ridicolous. The low blow by Hatton should have been a DQ. Very ugly fight.
what?
get lost you goof ball you sore loser

fazered
06-05-2005, 12:42 AM
Oh my god the sound of the people at the begining of the thread is pathethic. Terrible terrible excuses.

Great fight and an asskicking.

!! Mr. Soprano
06-05-2005, 01:03 AM
The holding and lunging by Hatton was ridicolous. The low blow by Hatton should have been a DQ. Very ugly fight.
WOW, It's funny that I'm not the only one who thinks that..
I just posted this under another thread..

<<
My only complaint is towards the Ref.
Every time they clinched, Hatton was locking and holding Tszyu's hands (most of the time his right hand) while he kept on hitting him (uppercuts, etc) Props to Hatton, but shame on the ref. I believe he should have braken them up and also warned Ricky for hitting while holding.


Anyhow...

Even though I'm crushed, yet, I won 5 Mil Poins and Congrads to Ricky Hatton and all of his loyal Fans who believed in him.
As for me, I felt that the young Hatton would be too much for Tszyu, but no one believed (I was even critisized as a Tszyu fan)>>

vB Martin
06-05-2005, 01:12 AM
I KNEW someone would say this. :)

I was going to have a "Zoo Nuthugger's Excuse Form" for you to select your favourites. If the referee was biased, then why didn't he penalise Zoo for the TWO low blows he did against Ricky earlier?

I will admit that Hatton should have been docked a point, maybe two, for that, but to suggest the referee helped the fight is ridiculous. Zoo was hitting and holding just as much. I think Hatton came out with a great game plan, and he fought well, but the fix was definitely in.

Things I saw from Hatton:
6 times, when they were on the inside, he looks at Pariash and nods, and Parish immediately steps in and breaks them up. These were all times when Tszyu was effectively tying him up or hitting him and Hatton was unable to hit back.
8 times, Hatton flagrantly hits on the break, with the ref between them. Never received the first warning.
More times than I could count, Hatton led with his head. Never received a warning on his own.
More times than I could count, Hatton used his forearm in Tszyu's throat forcing him to the ropes, holding him there and launching left hooks.
More times than I could count, Hatton would pin Tszyu's right arm to his side, spinning Tszyu out and hitting him with his own right.
A clear KD was called a slip. It can be argued that it was a low blow, but it landed on the belt, which Hatton wore high.
A flagrant, purposeful, fierce low blow and no point deduction.
Spinning Hatton and aiming a purposeful punch at the back of his head.
Are purposeful fouls supposed to be an automatic 2 point deduction?


This is the dirtiest fight I have ever seen. It's even worse than the time that Mickey Vann let Hatton throw 18 flagrant low blows before saying anything.

The shame of it is, Hatton had the perfect plan and was executing it well. He didn't need the other ****.

seal
06-05-2005, 01:20 AM
What a stupid ref!

Doesn't break them when Hatton is winning on the inside, but yet, he immediately breaks them when Tszyu starts throwing punches while tangled.

Doesn't do anything about Hatton's wrestling style, and when he leads with his head.

Doesn't warn Hatton for locking opponent's arms.

Warns Hatton 4 times for hitting Tszyo behind the head, instead of finally taking a point off.

Does NOTHING for the intentional low blow!

What the hell? F*uck this clown.

!! Mr. Soprano
06-05-2005, 01:24 AM
What a stupid ref!

Doesn't break them when Hatton is winning on the inside, but yet, he immediately breaks them when Tszyu starts throwing punches while tangled.

Doesn't do anything about Hatton's wrestling style, and when he leads with his head.

Doesn't warn Hatton for locking opponent's arms.

Warns Hatton 4 times for hitting Tszyo behind the head, instead of finally taking a point off.

Does NOTHING for the intentional low blow!

What the hell? F*uck this clown.
You forgot to mention constant headbuts.. which caused a swelling under Tszyu's left eye.. LOL

`STEELHEAD
06-05-2005, 01:36 AM
The holding and lunging by Hatton was ridicolous. The low blow by Hatton should have been a DQ. Very ugly fight.



i'm adding england next to puerto rico and germany to places that boxers shouldnt journey to.

but you know mayorgas dirty tactics didnt bother me when he fought forest. so i might be pregidice because of the high respect i have for tszyu. poor guy has only fought real good boxers not brawlers in the last several years.

seal
06-05-2005, 01:40 AM
i'm adding england next to puerto rico and germany to places that boxers shouldnt journey to.


Now I understand why Roy Jones has emphatically stayed away from foreign fights.

And what's up with these places? It's like the home fans get together before the fight and rehearse the chants and cheers they use.

IwatchBoxing
06-05-2005, 01:40 AM
i'm adding england next to puerto rico and germany to places that boxers shouldnt journey to.

but you know mayorgas dirty tactics didnt bother me when he fought forest. so i might be pregidice because of the high respect i have for tszyu. poor guy has only fought real good boxers not brawlers in the last several years.
How about Las Vegas stoopid? :p

Bad Intentions
06-05-2005, 01:41 AM
that ref still wasnt worse then the ref in the cotto/corley fight, now that ref should be fired.

SnoopySmurf
06-05-2005, 01:48 AM
The fight was so close, that all it took was a ref to tilt the war to Hatton's favor. Way too many elbow shots to the face and throat. Too many hits during the break.

And the scoring was not what I expected. I had to watch the fight with no volume since my nephews were sleeping. I thought the fight was much closer that the official score at the end of the 11th.

vB Martin
06-05-2005, 02:17 AM
Interestingly, Dave Pariss has been involved as a Judge or Ref in at least 6 Hatton fights, including the 4 fights prior to tonight. Stupidity on Tszyu's camp's part for allowing that to happen...

Exciterx24
06-05-2005, 02:18 AM
i'm adding england next to puerto rico and germany to places that boxers shouldnt journey to.

but you know mayorgas dirty tactics didnt bother me when he fought forest. so i might be pregidice because of the high respect i have for tszyu. poor guy has only fought real good boxers not brawlers in the last several years.

I will say this not because I am from Puerto Rico, but because it is true. PR judges are very, very honest. Eric Morel(who is Puertorrican) lost his belt here against Lorenzo Parra from Venezuela. Nelson Dieppa(also from PR) lost his 108 pound title against Mexican, Hugo Cázares here in Puerto Rico too.

Just because the Cotto-Corley ref made a bad decision does not mean that the fix is in when a fighter comes to Puerto Rico.

Tha Greatest
06-05-2005, 02:21 AM
Don't forget the rabbit punching..

Hatton beat him fair and square...

Tha Greatest
06-05-2005, 02:22 AM
I will say this not because I am from Puerto Rico, but because it is true. PR judges are very, very honest. Eric Morel(who is Puertorrican) lost his belt here against Lorenzo Parra from Venezuela. Nelson Dieppa(also from PR) lost his 108 pound title against Mexican, Hugo Cázares here in Puerto Rico too.

Just because the Cotto-Corley ref made a bad decision does not mean that the fix is in when a fighter comes to Puerto Rico.

I hope they don't rob me when I fight in Puerto Rico in the future:D

Just playin man

I agree with you

Super_Lightweight
06-05-2005, 02:25 AM
1) The fix was not in, and it is very debatable who was doing more of the holding.

2) Both figters fought a rough fight. Tszyu said after the fight he was ok with it.

3) Tszyu didn't whine, therefore, all you baby-back *****es need to shut the **** up and stop taking away from Hatton. Tszyu QUIT. The ref don't make you do that, SON.

OWNED.

Dr O Strich
06-05-2005, 02:32 AM
What a load of rubbish.

I'd prefer to take Kostya Tzsyu's take on the fight:

"Tonight, I lost to the better man - he was better than me everywhere."

There is no dispute.

I was one of the people who didn't give Ricky a cat in hell''s chance.

Full credit to him.

solo1bc
06-05-2005, 02:33 AM
This is straight from the horses mouth and no complaints about the ref or the judges!

"I have nothing to be ashamed of - I lost to the better fighter"

Kostya Tszyu

vB Martin
06-05-2005, 02:42 AM
Don't forget the rabbit punching..

Hatton beat him fair and square...
The thing is, watching the fight again, I think Hatton would have won without that crap. He was owning Tszyu on the inside. With all the crap, and a non-hometown ref, Hatton would have had a minimum of 1 2pt deduction and been quite possibly DQ'd.

Tha Greatest
06-05-2005, 02:43 AM
The thing is, watching the fight again, I think Hatton would have won without that crap. He was owning Tszyu on the inside. With all the crap, and a non-hometown ref, Hatton would have had a minimum of 1 2pt deduction and been quite possibly DQ'd.
Hattons perfect is perfect to beat Tszyu..

Cletus Funk
06-05-2005, 02:44 AM
The thing is, watching the fight again, I think Hatton would have won without that crap. He was owning Tszyu on the inside. With all the crap, and a non-hometown ref, Hatton would have had a minimum of 1 2pt deduction and been quite possibly DQ'd.

Tszyu gave him plenty back too though.

Tha Greatest
06-05-2005, 02:45 AM
What I noticed from Tszyu today is that he was a VERY good counterpuncher

Slipx
06-05-2005, 02:56 AM
Even though anoraks a total ***** that knows dick about boxing i agree with him.

hatton won, cheap tactics or no

vB Martin
06-05-2005, 03:17 AM
Tszyu gave him plenty back too though.
Tszyu was never flagrantly fouling, and never had the ability to nod the ref into breaking a clinch.

The "low blows" that Tszyu threw were beltline punches and not flagrant. His head was being held down by Hatton. That happens quite often in almost every fight.
Hatton's low blow, just like his punch to the back of the head in the first round, was aimed and purposeful. It hould have been a 2 point deduction.
The punch that put Hatton down was a beltline punch, the ref was out of position to determine if it was low. He ruled a KD from punch a slip.

I saw no throwing of elbows or use of forearms to the throat by Tszyu.

I saw no leading with the head or flagrant headbutts by Tszyu.

They did exchange some rabbit punches, if that's what you're referring to, but niether of them were hitting hard like that, so I didn't think it worth the mention.

I have no vested interest in either fighter. The outcome (except the 40 mil I just lost) really had no meaning to me. They are both exciting fighters, therefore either outcome would still be good for the sport I love.

Cletus Funk
06-05-2005, 03:23 AM
Tszyu was never flagrantly fouling, and never had the ability to nod the ref into breaking a clinch.

The "low blows" that Tszyu threw were beltline punches and not flagrant. His head was being held down by Hatton. That happens quite often in almost every fight.
Hatton's low blow, just like his punch to the back of the head in the first round, was aimed and purposeful. It hould have been a 2 point deduction.
The punch that put Hatton down was a beltline punch, the ref was out of position to determine if it was low. He ruled a KD from punch a slip.

I saw no throwing of elbows or use of forearms to the throat by Tszyu.

I saw no leading with the head or flagrant headbutts by Tszyu.

They did exchange some rabbit punches, if that's what you're referring to, but niether of them were hitting hard like that, so I didn't think it worth the mention.

I have no vested interest in either fighter. The outcome (except the 40 mil I just lost) really had no meaning to me. They are both exciting fighters, therefore either outcome would still be good for the sport I love.

I need to see the replay before I'll say you're wrong. It's nothing that hasn't happened lots of times before though, England doesn't have a monopoly on rough-house tactics. KT didn't have any complaints but that could just be because he's such a gentleman.

vB Martin
06-05-2005, 03:26 AM
hatton won, cheap tactics or no
I agree with that, but I think with another ref, he would either have had to lose the flagrant fouling or be DQ'd. Without the fouling, and a ref willing to go along wih it, would it have been the same fight with the same outcome?

Now that Hatton holds the IBF belt he can demand fighters go there to take it. I have a feeling that not many top notch fighters will try, and not because of Hatton's skill or power or heart. He showed no skill or power tonight. It will be because of everything he was allowed to get away with.

I've said this before. I've been a big fan of boxing for more than 30 years, and I have never seen a fight that dirty where the fighter wasn't penalized.

vB Martin
06-05-2005, 03:28 AM
What a load of rubbish.

I'd prefer to take Kostya Tzsyu's take on the fight:

"Tonight, I lost to the better man - he was better than me everywhere."

There is no dispute.

I was one of the people who didn't give Ricky a cat in hell''s chance.

Full credit to him.
Dr O Strich
Location: England

nuff said...

moochi
06-05-2005, 03:30 AM
I agree with that, but I think with another ref, he would either have had to lose the flagrant fouling or be DQ'd. Without the fouling, and a ref willing to go along wih it, would it have been the same fight with the same outcome?

Now that Hatton holds the IBF belt he can demand fighters go there to take it. I have a feeling that not many top notch fighters will try, and not because of Hatton's skill or power or heart. He showed no skill or power tonight. It will be because of everything he was allowed to get away with.

I've said this before. I've been a big fan of boxing for more than 30 years, and I have never seen a fight that dirty where the fighter wasn't penalized.
have you ever seen 'world title' fights in germany?

when robin reid fought sven ottke, he was warned for just about everything and the climax was when the referee warned reid for hitting ottke........

u might get some referee mistakes in the states, but by far and large, it is more and more impartial than places like germany and great britain.....

Tha Greatest
06-05-2005, 03:30 AM
Dr O Strich
Location: England

nuff said...

Actually....

Dr O Strich said yesterday at the weigh in pics

that Hatton looked drained and overtrained

so don't critisize him

vB Martin
06-05-2005, 03:32 AM
yay! I got my first red dot ever! that makes up for the 40 mil I lost tonight.

****ing idiot. If you don't like people who have different opinions from you, a message board certainly is not the place for you to be.

moochi
06-05-2005, 03:35 AM
yay! I got my first red dot ever! that makes up for the 40 mil I lost tonight.

****ing idiot. If you don't like people who have different opinions from you, a message board certainly is not the place for you to be.
do u think hatton would rematch tszyu in the states??

Tha Greatest
06-05-2005, 03:36 AM
yay! I got my first red dot ever! that makes up for the 40 mil I lost tonight.

****ing idiot. If you don't like people who have different opinions from you, a message board certainly is not the place for you to be.

What the **** are you talking about?
I was just saying...

Your the ****in idiot..
I was always cool with you when people talked **** about you...

**** off...

vB Martin
06-05-2005, 03:38 AM
What the **** are you talking about?
I was just saying...

Your the ****in idiot..
I was always cool with you when people talked **** about you...

**** off...
LOL

that wasn't directed at you. the person knows who they are. I've never had a prob with you, either, even when we've disagreed on things. just bad placent of the post...

Tha Greatest
06-05-2005, 03:39 AM
LOL

that wasn't directed at you. the person knows who they are. I've never had a prob with you, either, even when we've disagreed on things. just bad placent of the post...

OOOO lol

I was like "WTF, I didnt' even say anything"

It's cool then lol

vB Martin
06-05-2005, 03:40 AM
do u think hatton would rematch tszyu in the states??
nope. I don't think Hatton will ever fight outside Europe unless he can bring the tag team of Vann and Pariss with him.

moochi
06-05-2005, 03:45 AM
nope. I don't think Hatton will ever fight outside Europe unless he can bring the tag team of Vann and Pariss with him.
of course not..............this always happens doesn't it.......but they are living in their shell over in england and don't accept reality.......

either way, i can't see hatton being around all too long........i can just see him becoming another sven ottke.....what a pity!

MrCoop
06-05-2005, 03:48 AM
The bottom line is that the ref did suck & was letting it become a dirty wrestling match instead of a boxing match, but you can't blame Hatton for that. He did what he had to win. He took advantage of what the ref was allowing him to do. In the states I think it would have been a different fight & Tszyu probably would have won because he would have been able to fight at a distance, but Tszyu lost some of my respect for quitting with 1 lousy round left. It wasn't a very good fight to watch & the WWE **** with both fighters grabbing the mic & talking was gay, but Oh Well. Anyways props to Hatton, but don't come to U.S. and fight or he won't have the belt for long.

moochi
06-05-2005, 03:54 AM
The bottom line is that the ref did suck & was letting it become a dirty wrestling match instead of a boxing match, but you can't blame Hatton for that. He did what he had to win. He took advantage of what the ref was allowing him to do. In the states I think it would have been a different fight & Tszyu probably would have won because he would have been able to fight at a distance, but Tszyu lost some of my respect for quitting with 1 lousy round left. It wasn't a very good fight to watch & the WWE **** with both fighters grabbing the mic & talking was gay, but Oh Well. Anyways props to Hatton, but don't come to U.S. and fight or he won't have the belt for long.
well said.

legend
06-05-2005, 04:11 AM
The ref definitely stunk it up. Hatton, plz stay in England so you can be champion for awhile. That nodding to the referee **** won't work over here.

BTW, I always liked Hatton. It's a shame a referee can make a fight seem like a fake ass WWE match.

Gonzalo
06-05-2005, 04:26 AM
I think it was a good fight. But if this fight had taken place in the U.S. Hatton would have not been able to get away with all the holding and the result of the fight might have been diffrent. I think Hatton showed that he wanted it more and he is a force to be recond with. I wish Hatton the best of luck but jose Luis Castillo can kick his ass.

simeraksou
06-05-2005, 09:22 AM
Before the fight I posted that the only way Hatton would beat Tszyu is if the hatton team poisoned the lady that sings Tszyu's ring entrance music... well, the british fans found another way to cheat Tszyu.. they drowned out Tszyu's entrance music with their loud mouths!!! Tszyu's entrance music has been the secret to his success (a major psychological advantage). Also, another factor is that Tszyu did not train for a fight at 2 am (his fault)!! Hatton trained at the right time of the day whereas Tszyu trained as if the fight weren't at 2 am. This makes a big difference because it throws off your circadian rythm! That is what made Tszyu sluggish and fatigued.

Anyways, congrats to Hatton. He's better than I thought.

REMATCH!!!!

Shaolin Bushido
06-05-2005, 09:27 AM
Congratultions to Hatton and his supporters.

puppy_dogg
06-05-2005, 09:28 AM
i thought tszyu was stupid when they said he refused to change his train time. that was not very good tact but he seemed ok during the fight. i was rooting for tszyu big time, i make no excuses though, ricky had mad pressure from beginging to end. he made me believe. hatton is for real.

hitman7hearns7
06-05-2005, 09:44 AM
zoo didnt change his training time because due to the time difference in uas to england the time he noramlly trains works out at 2 in british time
stop making excuses
zoo is han enough to say he was beat by the better fight of witch he did after the fight WHY CANT YOU!

Shaolin Bushido
06-05-2005, 09:46 AM
Can you read? Every post here is congratulatory.

shocky
06-05-2005, 11:09 AM
:rolleyes: Club house ref did not let Zoo fight from outside.. Allowed crazed chucky doll to hug and foul the whole fight.. Mayweather would have walked thru chucky's hugging and fouling an ko the chucky doll by the 5th round.... ;)

spinksjinx
06-05-2005, 11:17 AM
Reminded you of a Ruiz fight didnt it?

The inside fighting was totally legit, punches were being thrown inside and there was no real reason to break it up.

The only complaints I had was the constant rabbit punching the blatant low blow and the knockdown that was ruled a slip for Hatton.

Mayweather wouldnt have walked through nothing, he would avoid him being the much quicker fighter and outwork Hatton.

Tszyu was slow and lethargic last night, Tszyu looked like garbage and showed nothing to be great at 140. Tszyu relies to much on power and it showed last night as in his other fights he always loads up that right and relies on that to much.

Hatton made a very interesting and GREAT point actually, he said Tszyu's right hand is only powerful if he can get at you at a long distance and it is useless at a close range. Hatton stayed close and didnt let Tszyu fire off that right hand. Great work by Hatton.

I applaud both men for the fight but it was a case of better fighter winning last night and nothing more and nothing less.

Nobody should down play Hatton's victory, both are respectable and the fans should be to.

SonnyG8R
06-05-2005, 11:24 AM
Reminded you of a Ruiz fight didnt it?

The inside fighting was totally legit, punches were being thrown inside and there was no real reason to break it up.

The only complaints I had was the constant rabbit punching the blatant low blow and the knockdown that was ruled a slip for Hatton.

Mayweather wouldnt have walked through nothing, he would avoid him being the much quicker fighter and outwork Hatton.

Tszyu was slow and lethargic last night, Tszyu looked like garbage and showed nothing to be great at 140. Tszyu relies to much on power and it showed last night as in his other fights he always loads up that right and relies on that to much.

Hatton made a very interesting and GREAT point actually, he said Tszyu's right hand is only powerful if he can get at you at a long distance and it is useless at a close range. Hatton stayed close and didnt let Tszyu fire off that right hand. Great work by Hatton.

I applaud both men for the fight but it was a case of better fighter winning last night and nothing more and nothing less.

Nobody should down play Hatton's victory, both are respectable and the fans should be to.


Good analysis bro.

Shocky, quit crying *****.

markosg19
06-05-2005, 11:28 AM
tzyu never complained about the dirtyness so why should you....

!! Anorak
06-05-2005, 11:35 AM
Here's something you might not know if you didn't see the undercard... the canvas was slippy that night. For real. There was one fight where both fighters kept slipping on their ass for the whole of the first round. It was hilarious. Dunno whether that affected the Hatton slip though.

spinksjinx
06-05-2005, 11:45 AM
Here's something you might not know if you didn't see the undercard... the canvas was slippy that night. For real. There was one fight where both fighters kept slipping on their ass for the whole of the first round. It was hilarious. Dunno whether that affected the Hatton slip though.


I dont think so, Tszyu landed a nice punch. Hatton wasnt hurt from it and maybe a little stunned and whether the ref ruled it or not, Hatton didnt look hurt and Tszyu surely didnt capitalize on the moment. Although I do believe it was a legit knockdown. Either way it wouldnt have mattered Hatton wasnt hurt.

Truth
06-05-2005, 11:54 AM
Great analysis jinx, I was waiting for someone to outbox zoo.

spinksjinx
06-05-2005, 12:04 PM
Great analysis jinx, I was waiting for someone to outbox zoo.


I wouldnt necessarily say Hatton outboxed Tszyu. It was such a rough fight last night and Hatton fought made it a brawl and that doesnt play to Kostya's favor. Noone has ever tried to bring it and smother Tszyu, it is like with Roy Jones. Many have tried to box but that isnt the way to beat Roy or Kostya, because they are both skilled and talented boxers. You have to get inside to beat a fighter with a traditional boxers style and Hatton implemented that.

I dont think the outcome would be any different if they fought 100 times to be honest. Hatton DIDNT let Tszyu get anything off and didnt let him think. I was astounded that Tszyu couldnt handle him but Hatton prevailed to my surprise.

EXIGE
06-05-2005, 12:17 PM
:rolleyes: Club house ref did not let Zoo fight from outside.. Allowed crazed chucky doll to hug and foul the whole fight.. Mayweather would have walked thru chucky's hugging and fouling an ko the chucky doll by the 5th round.... ;)
Did u even watch the fight. I listened to it and all this bait crap that every1 is coming out with is just an excuse. Kostya Tszyu is on the best form of his life according to him and ricky Hatton beat him meaning that he is better. There are no excuses, all this **** about if he was in America he would have lost. Kostya had about 3 weeks or more in England that he had time to prepare for the fight and so no1 can say that he came unprepared. Both fighters had to fight at 2am in the morning (our time). It was fair. they both commited as many illegal **** as each other.

Ricky is Champ fair and square.

Tha Greatest
06-05-2005, 12:24 PM
What I didnt like was that low blow from Hatton...

That was INTENTIONAL!

He should've been cost TWO points for that

EXIGE
06-05-2005, 12:32 PM
have a look at this picture. It is one of few that i have seen and i dont think it was low blows that caused all them cuts on his face. If anything every1 is low blowing Tsyzu with their mouth that is.

http://www.skysports.com/skysports/article/0,,12-1184429,00.html

Owned?

spinksjinx
06-05-2005, 12:39 PM
Did u even watch the fight. I listened to it and all this bait crap that every1 is coming out with is just an excuse. Kostya Tszyu is on the best form of his life according to him and ricky Hatton beat him meaning that he is better. There are no excuses, all this **** about if he was in America he would have lost. Kostya had about 3 weeks or more in England that he had time to prepare for the fight and so no1 can say that he came unprepared. Both fighters had to fight at 2am in the morning (our time). It was fair. they both commited as many illegal **** as each other.

Ricky is Champ fair and square.


I agree it is classless the way people are talking about the fighters in this fight. It isnt like there were anything bitter between the two fighters and why should there be between the fans. It was a good night for boxing last night and the better man won last night and the people should accept that.


Greatest-I agree the low blow was intentional and a point should have been taken. Also the constant rabbit punching as well.

paul750
06-05-2005, 12:41 PM
[QUOTE=eXig3] If anything every1 is low blowing Tsyzu with their mouth that is.
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that was a funny comment :D

jatt the ripper
06-05-2005, 12:41 PM
What I didnt like was that low blow from Hatton...

That was INTENTIONAL!

He should've been cost TWO points for that

i think the saying goes 'an eye for an eye'- it doesnt matter about the low blow cuz when hatton did it zoo was already so tired and 'beaten' -

gotta to aks though - tsyzu himself said he lost to the better fighter - indicating that he has no excuses- so if he doesn't have any excuses why are people making them for him.

Hatton's tactic was to be aggressive and to always keep pressure on tyszu. Sometimes aggression can seem to be 'dirty', i've seen it so many times in football(soccer) and i'm sure that everyone else has seen in other physical sports. Hatton isn't a dirty fighter by nature, but the tactics of that fight called for agression agression agression and that's why, i think, that he seemed to be a little bit dirty. Anyone who has seen his previous fights would know this.

About the slip that could have been a knockdown, one of the commentators also thought it was caused by a zoo punch, at first, and when the ref called it a slip he agreed with that. G

paul750
06-05-2005, 12:46 PM
i don't understand all this bitterness anyway, tsyzu is a russian born austrailian, it's not as if he's american anyway, i think all this bickering about wheather hatton won because he fought dirty is not needed, one guy won the fight and the other guy lost it, why can't it just be left at that?

shocky
06-05-2005, 03:55 PM
Eat **** You ******* No Nothing About Boxing Punk Qeer......

spinksjinx
06-05-2005, 04:59 PM
Eat **** You ******* No Nothing About Boxing Punk Qeer......


Thats not cool and certainly not tolerated.

joeboxer
06-05-2005, 05:00 PM
agreed. bad karma for shocky.

masterdirector
06-05-2005, 05:20 PM
hahahahaahahaha!!!! You Tszyu fans can say whatever the **** you want, but you can't deny that the ***** QUIT!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

After all that **** he talked about Mitchell for quitting. After him saying that **** about Freitas that he could never quit (after Freitas had quit against Corrales), the ***** went and QUIT! HAHAHAHAHAAAA

Zab Judah'll give Tszyu a match for those Welterweight titles. Clearly the weight was an issue.

Ranger2408
06-05-2005, 05:25 PM
100 million points at 5 to 1, i am a billionare :cool:

Manny_P
06-05-2005, 05:27 PM
It was an ugly fight, definitely!

spinksjinx
06-05-2005, 06:11 PM
hahahahaahahaha!!!! You Tszyu fans can say whatever the **** you want, but you can't deny that the ***** QUIT!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

After all that **** he talked about Mitchell for quitting. After him saying that **** about Freitas that he could never quit (after Freitas had quit against Corrales), the ***** went and QUIT! HAHAHAHAHAAAA

Zab Judah'll give Tszyu a match for those Welterweight titles. Clearly the weight was an issue.

Tszyu will take a lot of heat for that indeed, however I still dont think it hurts his career and legacy much. A star was born in Manchester yesterday.