To the pompus british fans that are just lashing out at everyone that isnt on the Ricky Hatton bandwagon. Not all the british guys on here, just the ones that are letting loose about this **** on the other threads. Hatton won, fair and square. No denying that. However, he fights dirty and I dont respect that. I was giving it up to him until he spun KT around and hit him in the back of his head. Then later in the fight when KT gets warned for a low blow, which was on the beltline anyway, Hatton comes right back and nails KT in his ****ing balls. Respect that of your countryman if you want to, but I'll never cheer for a fighter that fights dirty like that. Like I said before, I give him credit for the win, he certainly earned it. I will never be a fan of his though, because in this fight he fought like a dirty *****. So fine Britains, come talk **** to me for throwin dirt on Hatton's name. I dont discredit his win because of his dirty tactics at all. He earned the win and he deserves it, but he's a dirty fighter. So **** him. Good win for him, but he loses a potential fan base outside of his hometown for fighting like a dirty *****. Just my humble opinion. I dont respond to ignorance, so all you british guys that have such a hard-on for Hatton can insult me and give me as much bad karma as you want. I dont support dirty fighters, I dont give a **** what country they were born in.

I agree with some of the sentiment here, but this ain't figure skating. This is boxing, where you do everything you can to win the fight. As I understand it, Hatton thought he was being fouled so he fouled back. He deserves credit for beating an all-time great though.

I agree with you about some of these posters though. Seriously, he won, but shut the **** up with your, "WE (England, Hatton) deserve an apology" bull****...that sounds pathetic.

he won dirty...bottomline...but i guess..a win is a win in most people's book

Strange how Kostya himself never complained... I noticed a lot of holding and hitting from him, too.

No, not a pleasant bout at times, but in the heat of the moment. Name one fighter that HASN'T had a dirty match. As for the "Brit" angle. It doesn't bother me, but it seems to bother 90% of the people posting about it.

Strange how Kostya himself never complained... I noticed a lot of holding and hitting from him, too.

No, not a pleasant bout at times, but in the heat of the moment. Name one fighter that HASN'T had a dirty match. As for the "Brit" angle. It doesn't bother me, but it seems to bother 90% of the people posting about it.


it's not an "angle" some of these brit cats are seriously going overboard bashing anyone that isnt on Hatton's jock, yourself NOT included.

it's not an "angle" some of these brit cats are seriously going overboard bashing anyone that isnt on Hatton's jock, yourself NOT included.Sorry man, I meant to put "on BOTH sides" at the end of that.

I think some of 'em are just overexcited. After all, it's only about once every 300 years we get to win a title. :)

The fight sucked it was an aweful performance by both. Both guys looked seriously skill limited. Ruiz impersonation was going throughout the fight. It was an embarrassment. Not much to be proud about even if you are hatton fan.

Godz, I respect you man and I enjoy your posts but Hatton is not a dirty fighter, just watch his other 38 fights. He went in there with plan to out-muscle a beast and he pulled it off. Your talking like Hatton did something that's not been done a million times before by people like Hopkins, Duran, Barrera, Tyson, Holyfield...need I go on?

The fight sucked it was an aweful performance by both. Both guys looked seriously skill limited. Ruiz impersonation was going throughout the fight. It was an embarrassment. Not much to be proud about even if you are hatton fan.

Ruiz isnt really like that, hes more of a jab and grab and not really let you punch in the clinches. Both men were throwing bombs during their insdie fighting. Ruiz is a completley different style of grabbing.

Godz, I respect you man and I enjoy your posts but Hatton is not a dirty fighter, just watch his other 38 fights. He went in there with plan to out-muscle a beast and he pulled it off. Your talking like Hatton did something that's not been done a million times before by people like Hopkins, Duran, Barrera, Tyson, Holyfield...need I go on?


I have NEVER, ever seen such a blantant cheap shot as the one i mentioned about Hatton spinning KT around, waiting, THEN punching him in the back of his head. EVER. I've seen guys get punched in the back of the head like on some holding and hitting ****, but never that blatant. EVER.

I AM disappointed with how this fight is being assessed on BOTH sides. So far not one "Brit" has said "Hatton was a bit ****" or what have you. (Not that they should, particularly, but still...) and I haven't read a single US post bigging up Ricky. Not that I can recall anyway.

Oh - Frank. Don't you reckon Hatton's mum sounds like Matt Lucas?

I have NEVER, ever seen such a blantant cheap shot as the one i mentioned about Hatton spinning KT around, waiting, THEN punching him in the back of his head. EVER. I've seen guys get punched in the back of the head like on some holding and hitting ****, but never that blatant. EVER.

What about Barrera slamming Naz's head into the corner post?

Did you miss KT holding and hitting too?

What round was that in anyway? I was just on tenterhooks for the first few rounds after reading KT was able to KO him with a single hook... then seeing Hatton walk through them. I'm not even a Hatton fan, but that was pretty exciting.

What about Barrera slamming Naz's head into the corner post?

Did you miss KT holding and hitting too?


They were both holding and hitting. Barrera and Hamed were slightly tangled up and Barrera was wrong for doing something like that, but the way that Hatton spun KT around, and even waited a split second, then threw the punch. I can't and will not respect that. Like I said, Hatton gets his props for taking out a legend, but i'll never cheer for him or support him. That was some terrible ****. I'd be embarassed about that if I was a Hatton fan.

What round was that in anyway? I was just on tenterhooks for the first few rounds after reading KT was able to KO him with a single hook... then seeing Hatton walk through them. I'm not even a Hatton fan, but that was pretty exciting.

Just about every round, they were both at it. KT also threw Hatton to the floor.

I mean the particular incident Godz describes. I vaguely recall it, but want to check it again.

They were both holding and hitting. Barrera and Hamed were slightly tangled up and Barrera was wrong for doing something like that, but the way that Hatton spun KT around, and even waited a split second, then threw the punch. I can't and will not respect that. Like I said, Hatton gets his props for taking out a legend, but i'll never cheer for him or support him. That was some terrible ****. I'd be embarassed about that if I was a Hatton fan.

Fair enough pal, you feel how you feel. I'm nothing but proud of Hatton, he didn't lose a round.

Ruiz isnt really like that, hes more of a jab and grab and not really let you punch in the clinches. Both men were throwing bombs during their insdie fighting. Ruiz is a completley different style of grabbing.

its a shame to even call that inside fighting. Hatton was clinchin a lot he was smothering his own and KT's punches to try and wear KT down. The only real bombs going on in there while they were hugging were the rabit punches, and elbows, the ocassional uppercut but it was very rare.

Inside fighting is, Chavez vs Rosario, Castillo vs Corrales. That was a wrestling match in there.

I guess the real looser out of all this is the KT legacy. He could have gone down as one of the best. A freak loss to Philips. But now, I think he has really ruined his legacy. All for 5m. He did not need the money. I just can't believe that he has ruined what he worked so hard to achieve. He says he wants his children to be proud. But if he quit (I have not seen the fight yet), then there is not much to be proud of.

I was very suprised to find out this afternoon and find out Kosta lost to fight . I am even more suprised to find the people of two countries (Countries that have both lost lives in IRAQ) and sit and turn what was a good fight into a Sh** talking match about who's country is greater . AS a member of AMERICAS fighting forces currently serving in Korea . Please people lets not bring up history where millions of people lost there lives . Hatton won the fight and the future will tell if he will continue to win .

Super Zab Fan - A member of the worlds Greatest Military might
Second to Know one .

P.S Congratulations to Ricky Hatton on a well deserved win

I was very suprised to find out this afternoon and find out Kosta lost to fight . I am even more suprised to find the people of two countries (Countries that have both lost lives in IRAQ) and sit and turn what was a good fight into a Sh** talking match about who's country is greater . AS a member of AMERICAS fighting forces currently serving in Korea . Please people lets not bring up history where millions of people lost there lives . Hatton won the fight and the future will tell if he will continue to win .

Super Zab Fan - A member of the worlds Greatest Military might
Second to Know one .

P.S Congratulations to Ricky Hatton on a well deserved win
Wise words there.

I have always been a fan of KT but have enjoyed watching Hatton fight. Hatton knew he had to be a swarming type fighter to be successful, and he did so. Dont know what you do, but when boxing, grappling, or whatever it may be, its an eye for an eye. KT hit him 3 or 4 times below the belt right before that low blow. Doubt it hit Hatton's sak but it was enough to piss him off. That whole fight was just that, a fight. How can you call him a *****? I think it was definately a rough ass fight, and KT thought it to be a lost cause, and therefore decided to QUIT. If I am on my feet I am not quitting. I love KT, but who is the *****?

I guess the real looser out of all this is the KT legacy. He could have gone down as one of the best. A freak loss to Philips. But now, I think he has really ruined his legacy. All for 5m. He did not need the money. I just can't believe that he has ruined what he worked so hard to achieve. He says he wants his children to be proud. But if he quit (I have not seen the fight yet), then there is not much to be proud of.


worst first post ever. which Hatton fan decided to create a new name? He ruined his legacy for bowing out to the better man? are ****ing mentally ill? He's lost twice in his career and has been fighting nothing but championship fights for like the past decade. His legacy has been established for a long time.

Kostya Tyszu is a great fighter and nothing should be taken away from him. But every great fighter has their day were they get dethroned.

My only complaint is towards the Ref.
Every time they clinched, Hatton was locking and holding Tszyu's hands (most of the time his right hand) while he kept on hitting him (uppercuts, etc) Props to Hatton, but shame on the ref. I believe he should have braken them up and also warned Ricky for hitting while holding.


Anyhow...

Even though I'm crushed, yet, I won 5 Mil Poins and Congrads to Ricky Hatton and all of his loyal Fans who believed in him.
As for me, I felt that the young Hatton would be too much for Tszyu, but no one believed (I was even critisized as a Tszyu fan)

BTW,

That speech that Ricky and Kostya gave at the end, gained more of my respect for both fighters.

I don't judge Tszyu for quiting... Some of you believe that a fighter should battle himself to the Meldrick Taylor state, I believe that a fighter should be able to call his own fights and there is nothing wrong for walking away when you feel that it's over. Agree / Not?

It is nice to see when people are gracious in victory as well as in defeat. We as fans often go overboard. We need to remember that we are just sitting on our asses...we need to temper our celebrations a little and not go overboard.
One man made a big leap forward last night and one came up short.
I respect both for climbing into the ring.

worst first post ever. which Hatton fan decided to create a new name? He ruined his legacy for bowing out to the better man? are ****ing mentally ill? He's lost twice in his career and has been fighting nothing but championship fights for like the past decade. His legacy has been established for a long time.



i agree. now i'd like your opinion. i just got off work. i immediatley got on and read the round by round. haven't seen the fight. i'm not trying to insult anybody. is it possible that tszyus plan is loose then have an immediate rematch with big money and an easy win then retire? please no hate just wondering. youre american, how'd he really look?

To the pompus british fans that are just lashing out at everyone that isnt on the Ricky Hatton bandwagon. Not all the british guys on here, just the ones that are letting loose about this **** on the other threads. Hatton won, fair and square. No denying that. However, he fights dirty and I dont respect that. I was giving it up to him until he spun KT around and hit him in the back of his head. Then later in the fight when KT gets warned for a low blow, which was on the beltline anyway, Hatton comes right back and nails KT in his ****ing balls. Respect that of your countryman if you want to, but I'll never cheer for a fighter that fights dirty like that. Like I said before, I give him credit for the win, he certainly earned it. I will never be a fan of his though, because in this fight he fought like a dirty *****. So fine Britains, come talk **** to me for throwin dirt on Hatton's name. I dont discredit his win because of his dirty tactics at all. He earned the win and he deserves it, but he's a dirty fighter. So **** him. Good win for him, but he loses a potential fan base outside of his hometown for fighting like a dirty *****. Just my humble opinion. I dont respond to ignorance, so all you british guys that have such a hard-on for Hatton can insult me and give me as much bad karma as you want. I dont support dirty fighters, I dont give a **** what country they were born in.


I haven seen it man,I just listened to the audio webcast,if youre right then i agree with you 100%,but it kind of seemed liked hattons plan was to go in there and stall/tie up Tszyu until the later rounds where he could shine,maybe that why all the rough house tactics tho,but I'll withhold too much judgement until i see whole thing myself.

worst first post ever. which Hatton fan decided to create a new name? He ruined his legacy for bowing out to the better man? are ****ing mentally ill? He's lost twice in his career and has been fighting nothing but championship fights for like the past decade. His legacy has been established for a long time.


You have to admit its a LITTLE suspect tho,maybe Philip's win wasnt that much of a freak accident,maybe tsyu is vulnerable to pressure fighters,eh?

Philips was a pretty fair boxer himself dude.........."Freak accident"??

I think the response from most of the Brits is because Americans generally think they are the bees knees at everything (including boxing!) so any chance our little island gets to put on over on you is taken... sometimes taken too far but taken none the less...

Look at the disrespect Lewis got for years.. Despite being the best heavyweight (considering skill, record etc.) since Ali...

Granted, some of the abuse is unnessecary but some of it is well deserved as well!

PS. I haven't seen the fight yet so will have to reserve judgement on how dirty Hatton fought...

Hatton did fight a bit dirty, and the ref let him do it. I would have preferred a Smoger or even Cortez.
But...
Tszyu didn't jab, didn't tie Hatton up, didn't fight at range, and looked a bit sluggish. He was potentially good enough to cope with Hatton's tactics, but tried to beat Hatton at his game & it didn't work.

Tszyu didn't jab,

u must have watched a different fight friend, tszyu landed more than 40-50 shotgun jabs right on the button as hatton would come in

he didn't lose a round.

No need to be a clown. You should be proud, but that was just a stupid and blatantly incorrect thing to say. I'll chalk it up to heat of the moment.

I have not seen anythin as low class as people coming and asking for respect and apologies...

I feel sorry for Hatton, stupid ass fans make him look bad and his a class act...

I feel sorry for Amir Khan.............(not intended to all british fans....only JuyJuy, exIg3, and any other arrogant, disrespectful bastards)

No need to be a clown. You should be proud, but that was just a stupid and blatantly incorrect thing to say. I'll chalk it up to heat of the moment.

I didn't think he did lose a round but I'll admit to being a little drunk and excited. Which rounds did you have KT winning?

u must have watched a different fight friend, tszyu landed more than 40-50 shotgun jabs right on the button as hatton would come in

When I say he didn't jab, I meant enough... 3 or 4 a round is not enough.

i agree. now i'd like your opinion. i just got off work. i immediatley got on and read the round by round. haven't seen the fight. i'm not trying to insult anybody. is it possible that tszyus plan is loose then have an immediate rematch with big money and an easy win then retire? please no hate just wondering. youre american, how'd he really look?


I think Hatton was up by a round or 2. Both men looked exhausted, I dont think KT planned on losing. If he wants redemption, he'll take a rematch. Hopefully it would be on neutral ground.

To the pompus british fans that are just lashing out at everyone that isnt on the Ricky Hatton bandwagon. Not all the british guys on here, just the ones that are letting loose about this **** on the other threads. Hatton won, fair and square. No denying that. However, he fights dirty and I dont respect that. I was giving it up to him until he spun KT around and hit him in the back of his head. Then later in the fight when KT gets warned for a low blow, which was on the beltline anyway, Hatton comes right back and nails KT in his ****ing balls. Respect that of your countryman if you want to, but I'll never cheer for a fighter that fights dirty like that. Like I said before, I give him credit for the win, he certainly earned it. I will never be a fan of his though, because in this fight he fought like a dirty *****. So fine Britains, come talk **** to me for throwin dirt on Hatton's name. I dont discredit his win because of his dirty tactics at all. He earned the win and he deserves it, but he's a dirty fighter. So **** him. Good win for him, but he loses a potential fan base outside of his hometown for fighting like a dirty *****. Just my humble opinion. I dont respond to ignorance, so all you british guys that have such a hard-on for Hatton can insult me and give me as much bad karma as you want. I dont support dirty fighters, I dont give a **** what country they were born in.


I disagree completely!


Barrera fought dirty against Pacman but that didnt stop you from hugging his nuts tightly did it?!

Done wit this! Too much hypocrisy!

I disagree completely!


Barrera fought dirty against Pacman but that didnt stop you from hugging his nuts tightly did it?!

Done wit this! Too much hypocrisy!


When have I EVER nuthugged Barrera? I don't even think you're a real person, an alter-ego of one of the boxingscene members with too much time on his hands. You may have missed the memo, I don't argue with ignorance, so don't expect another response from me. I'm no hypocrite, you're just a "foo" that can't even comprehend "ebonics" correctly enough to use it. You're either fake, or a moron.

has anyone got the figth if so can u post it in please

It's on mininova.com (torrent)

thanks i was gonna order it last night but there was a very small undercard (quality aswell was poor)

i think a lot of people on here dont like it that hatton won, he fought the right fight to beat kosta, stop *****in and accept the fact that ricky won, you go and ask any professional fighter and they will tell the same a win is a win no matter how you take it, its not ballet its professional fighting, what did you expect him to do stay on the end of kostas jab all night

When have I EVER nuthugged Barrera? I don't even think you're a real person, an alter-ego of one of the boxingscene members with too much time on his hands. You may have missed the memo, I don't argue with ignorance, so don't expect another response from me. I'm no hypocrite, you're just a "foo" that can't even comprehend "ebonics" correctly enough to use it. You're either fake, or a moron.

is this the part where I beg fo mercy? Take it eazy then homie.

Suck on this first:bottle:, the weiner you ordered aint here yet!

any other torretns sites free that hav the fight cos i dont really wanna enter my card details

I love the way he wins a title. Proves most of this board wrong and then people try to downgrade him for his efforts, making excuses for Tszyu and all. They traded the same number of illegal blows (in fact kostya mite have been up by 1 on that count in fact) and they were both guilty of hugging (not just hatton). yea thats right i know Kostya was hugging him when he was in the **** and perhaps 2-3 more punches would have put him down.

Put it this way. Hatton wasnt the only one to floor Kostya with an illegal blow. In fact Kostya did that first. If he wants to fight dirty Hatton will fight dirty. It just so happened that the hype that surrounded Kostya didnt work out.

"35 year old Kostya will beat 25 year old Kostya". Well if hes that ****ing good why the **** couldnt he hold on past about the 7th ****ing round. Is it because he was **** on the night, and probably took Hatton to lightly in his training. Now no1 can say that his age was a factor because according to him he was on the "form of his life" before the fight and coming into it.

Nice 1 Ricky. Now I hope he comes over and floors all of ur ****ing boxers aswell.

When have I EVER nuthugged Barrera? I don't even think you're a real person, an alter-ego of one of the boxingscene members with too much time on his hands. You may have missed the memo, I don't argue with ignorance, so don't expect another response from me. I'm no hypocrite, you're just a "foo" that can't even comprehend "ebonics" correctly enough to use it. You're either fake, or a moron.
Hold on is this coming from the same fake ***** who said that the lyric in my sig was "wack". U didnt know who it was written by, arguably the most competant lyricist in the world of all time even though he is dead. Ur the ****ing fake one and your the only hypocrite out of the 2.

I love the way he wins a title. Proves most of this board wrong and then people try to downgrade him for his efforts, making excuses for Tszyu and all. They traded the same number of illegal blows (in fact kostya mite have been up by 1 on that count in fact) and they were both guilty of hugging (not just hatton). yea thats right i know Kostya was hugging him when he was in the **** and perhaps 2-3 more punches would have put him down.

Put it this way. Hatton wasnt the only one to floor Kostya with an illegal blow. In fact Kostya did that first. If he wants to fight dirty Hatton will fight dirty. It just so happened that the hype that surrounded Kostya didnt work out.

"35 year old Kostya will beat 25 year old Kostya". Well if hes that ****ing good why the **** couldnt he hold on past about the 7th ****ing round. Is it because he was **** on the night, and probably took Hatton to lightly in his training. Now no1 can say that his age was a factor because according to him he was on the "form of his life" before the fight and coming into it.

Nice 1 Ricky. Now I hope he comes over and floors all of ur ****ing boxers aswell.


Holy ****, you should relax man. Getting that hyped up over a boxer? I know Anorak said you guys dont get many title fight wins in your country, but ****. You and some of your countrymen on this board are going crazy. Why do you have to turn it into a racial/nationality thing? Good job to Hatton for the win, but fans like you give british boxing a bad name.

Just because Biggie was dope, doesnt mean that every rhyme he spit was dope. That **** is average. Is that from the "One More Chance" remix? You have a better chance at outwitting me in boxing knowledge than Hip Hop. I breath hip hop. However, if you're just going to verbally attack me like Manny P's "foo" ass, you can join him on my list of ignorant people I refuse to respond to.

sorry Rover... I meant mininova.org...

To the pompus british fans that are just lashing out at everyone that isnt on the Ricky Hatton bandwagon. Not all the british guys on here, just the ones that are letting loose about this **** on the other threads. Hatton won, fair and square. No denying that. However, he fights dirty and I dont respect that. I was giving it up to him until he spun KT around and hit him in the back of his head. Then later in the fight when KT gets warned for a low blow, which was on the beltline anyway, Hatton comes right back and nails KT in his ****ing balls. Respect that of your countryman if you want to, but I'll never cheer for a fighter that fights dirty like that. Like I said before, I give him credit for the win, he certainly earned it. I will never be a fan of his though, because in this fight he fought like a dirty *****. So fine Britains, come talk **** to me for throwin dirt on Hatton's name. I dont discredit his win because of his dirty tactics at all. He earned the win and he deserves it, but he's a dirty fighter. So **** him. Good win for him, but he loses a potential fan base outside of his hometown for fighting like a dirty *****. Just my humble opinion. I dont respond to ignorance, so all you british guys that have such a hard-on for Hatton can insult me and give me as much bad karma as you want. I dont support dirty fighters, I dont give a **** what country they were born in.

Damn, I just had this same convo on another forum ... verbatim. I agree, basically but I wish the champ the best. Oh yeah, he shrugged when the ref admonished him for spinning and punchin Tszyu in the back of the head!

Anyway, "The King is dead ... LONG LIVE THE KING!" and "Heavy is the head that wears the crown"

Peace.

barrera fight dirty no one complains. boxing is a mans sport, hatton gave as good as he got

barrera fight dirty no one complains. boxing is a mans sport, hatton gave as good as he got

So I've heard. Fighting dirty and acting like an ass isn't characteristic of any men I'm acquainted with. Tszyu does his share of rough housing also, so it's poetic justice.

Enjoy Hatton's reign now ... you never know ... he may even agree to fight somewhere else besides Manchester.

i think a lot of people on here dont like it that hatton won, he fought the right fight to beat kosta, stop *****in and accept the fact that ricky won, you go and ask any professional fighter and they will tell the same a win is a win no matter how you take it, its not ballet its professional fighting, what did you expect him to do stay on the end of kostas jab all night

Yeah it seems a lot of people are pissed off that Hatton won they're your clutching at straws, Tszyu didn't complain about any dirty tactics afterwards so it should be a non issue. It was a **** fight as it goes but I think it was 50/50 on the holding etc. & that's what probably hepled tire Tszyu out and as our commentators said for a great champion like Kostya Tszyu to quit in the corner he must have been really ****ed up.

actually godzhand that biggie lyric is from machine gun funk

Yeah it seems a lot of people are pissed off that Hatton won they're your clutching at straws, Tszyu didn't complain about any dirty tactics afterwards so it should be a non issue. It was a **** fight as it goes but I think it was 50/50 on the holding etc. & that's what probably hepled tire Tszyu out and as our commentators said for a great champion like Kostya Tszyu to quit in the corner he must have been really ****ed up.

From what I saw, there was alot of poor behavior whether Tszyu acknowledges that or not. Hatton won, I'm not happy about it and I do hate that a HOF'er like Tszyu had to lose to a guy who never will attain the heights or acclaim Tszyu garnered. It's the way of boxing, however, and is an oft repeated theme.

the reason why some of my compatriots and going overboard with this victory is because we have very little of this so we have to milk it. Britain and england in particular have very few world or eurpopean champions and even less sportsmen/women/teams considered the best. With this victory hatton has to be considered the best (i'm not saying he is but as he has the belt he is) so were gonna do all we can with it. Also hatton is like tyson in his prime, a national icon, so you americans should remember how america felt and still feels about tyson. I'm not saying it right, in honestly some of the **** is embrassing but you gotta understand why we are doing it.

the reason why some of my compatriots and going overboard with this victory is because we have very little of this so we have to milk it. Britain and england in particular have very few world or eurpopean champions and even less sportsmen/women/teams considered the best. With this victory hatton has to be considered the best (i'm not saying he is but as he has the belt he is) so were gonna do all we can with it. Also hatton is like tyson in his prime, a national icon, so you americans should remember how america felt and still feels about tyson. I'm not saying it right, in honestly some of the **** is embrassing but you gotta understand why we are doing it.

I understand. I don't have a stake in it but didn't realize how popular he is there.

It's cool. Maybe he'll go on to be a great champ and give us all tons of boxing action ... as well as someone to pull against!heheheh, it's all good bro.

The King is Dead ... Long Live the King!

the reason why some of my compatriots and going overboard with this victory is because we have very little of this so we have to milk it. Britain and england in particular have very few world or eurpopean champions and even less sportsmen/women/teams considered the best. With this victory hatton has to be considered the best (i'm not saying he is but as he has the belt he is) so were gonna do all we can with it. Also hatton is like tyson in his prime, a national icon, so you americans should remember how america felt and still feels about tyson. I'm not saying it right, in honestly some of the **** is embrassing but you gotta understand why we are doing it.


...I hear what your saying man and I'm a huge Zoo fan. I was upset about Zoo losing especially the way it ended but I do give Hatton credit. I also understand why the brits are going crazy on here but I also expected a little more class. I figured you guys were always a cut above us when it came to good manners. Anyway, enjoy your boys win and good luck in his future fights.

Holy ****, you should relax man. Getting that hyped up over a boxer? I know Anorak said you guys dont get many title fight wins in your country, but ****. You and some of your countrymen on this board are going crazy. Why do you have to turn it into a racial/nationality thing? Good job to Hatton for the win, but fans like you give british boxing a bad name.That's the problem with this "British Boxing" thing, there's so much **** going on either side that it becomes a chicken and egg situation.

Are the English fans just reacting to all the Brit-bashing that goes on here, or is it the reverse? Certainly I've only seen about 5% of US posters here acknowledge Ricky's win.

Which was the "hit in the back of the head" round again anyway?

. I figured you guys were always a cut above us when it came to good manners. Anyway, enjoy your boys win and good luck in his future fights.

we are :D LOL.

thanks for understand also. i actually thought zoo was the classier fighter, when he wasnt shattered and hatton won it because of his dog of war tactics. It dont matter though he's the champ and that's all that matters.

I don't know, 3rd, 4th, 5th ... somewhere around there. You missed that? No big deal ... speaks to character or lack thereof.

That's all.

That was my point in an earlier post..

A lot of the bile on here is just ignorant kids but it's a definate feeling that us Brits don't get the respect we deserve so it's natural there would be a backlash..

Lennox Lewis was the first UNDISPUTED heavyweight champ in a long time and all we heard from the States is he too cautious, Tyson could have taken him in his prime etc. etc.

Naseem Hamed was a great fighter who only lost to another great fighter and all that was ever heard was 'he's yet to proove himself' blah blah!

If we really wanna get down to it, it's probably a bit left over from WW2 etc. as well as most national rivalries are based on on years & years of history and have nothing to do with the specific subject (in this case boxing!)

Holy ****, you should relax man. Getting that hyped up over a boxer? I know Anorak said you guys dont get many title fight wins in your country, but ****. You and some of your countrymen on this board are going crazy. Why do you have to turn it into a racial/nationality thing? Good job to Hatton for the win, but fans like you give british boxing a bad name.

Just because Biggie was dope, doesnt mean that every rhyme he spit was dope. That **** is average. Is that from the "One More Chance" remix? You have a better chance at outwitting me in boxing knowledge than Hip Hop. I breath hip hop. However, if you're just going to verbally attack me like Manny P's "foo" ass, you can join him on my list of ignorant people I refuse to respond to.
Refuse to respond to me then, cos quite frankly the quicker you shut your mouth the better for every1. Its funny how u "breath" hip-hop and then get the name of the rapper wrong. Biggie didnt write the lyric that was in my sig when u said it was "wack". **** man ive outdone u and all i have been doing is sitting here in my chair and watch you make a fool of yourself. I probably dont have a better chance of outdoing u with boxing knowledge as admitedly i dont know as much as half the people on this site. I just argue my case.

And when did i go crazy over a win in "300 years". I went mad when people like u (hypocrites) start to make Hattons victory seem like it wasnt important or that he doesnt deserve it. U r the ****ing one who gives Boxing altogether a bad name not me.

Just a couple of points here:

NEITHER fighter was hit hard enough in the back of the head to be hurt or affected at all by it. It was going on from both sides, but in a fight like that, you have to expect the fighters to try and score with the judges any way they can.

RE: Low blows
I don't really believe either of these guys were 100% intentional when they hit low, even Ricky's blatant low shot after Kostya was warned for his own low blows. This **** happens, and it really shouldn't be an issue, for fans or fighters either one.

Ricky's "slip'n'trip":
That was a knockdown from a clean body shot on the beltline, and should've been ruled as such. He didn't slip, didn't trip, and wasn't about to take a nap 'cause he was gettin' sleepy. In the end it didn't matter, but I'm a bit pissed off at the ref for his poor job at that point, specifically. There's a slight possibility that, if it had been ruled properly as a knockdown, Tszyu would've been more inclined to believe he had a legitimate reason to take a chance with the scorecards at the end. Or, it may have made no difference at all....we'll never know. It's not a big deal, really, just another part of this fight that disappointed me greatly.

Sportsmanship:
The one thing that kept this fight from being the worst fight of the year for me, was the sportsmanship and respect shown by both fighters for each other. They obviously hold each other in very high regard, both publicly and privately, and when I see fighters behave like these gentlemen did, it makes me think there's still hope for my favorite sport after all.

And finally, the "quitter" label being hung around Tszyu's neck:
When one of you guys who've suddenly decided you hate the quitter can go 11 rounds in a fight that looks like that one, and then answer the bell for the 12th, your opinion counts. Until then, shut the **** up.

I don't know, 3rd, 4th, 5th ... somewhere around there. You missed that? No big deal ... speaks to character or lack thereof.What, my character for not seeing it? :)

Maybe the camera angle was different in the US broadcast? Because I've just watched those rounds and still didn't see it. Honestly.

I'm just being objective here, I'm not even a Hatton fan.


Oh - The Brit thing. I fully expected it, really. If I post a thread that in any way relates to an Englishman I get accused of blind bias (like a thread recently about how I didn't like Hopkins became "you're just pissed because he schooled Eastman"... who is originally from Guyana anyway)

I never try and be blind to any boxer due to nationality - Zoo was the classier act and got beat ugly - but often I'll be Devil's Advocate and just point out a fighter's good points because I've had the opportunity to see them.

Take the Tyson-Williams fight. So many people were calling Danny a "bum" when they hadn't even seen him fight before. Now Danny might not be a class "A" fighter, but he ain't a bum. It's frustrating coming on here and reading comments about fights that people haven't even seen ("He got beat by Michael Sprott") just looked at on paper.

It's also maddening that because the UK doesn't have the FINANCE to distribute its fights the better ones get overlooked. Wayne Alexander's KO of Takaloo or Carl Thompson's of Sebastian Rothwell were both classic KOs but didn't make anyone's KO list of 2004.

I'm not being biased, just presenting a point of view. Often I do it in reaction to the views coming the other way. I won't bring it up, we've sort of kissed and made up since, but there was a time when the creator of this thread blindly read everything I posted as "I love Brits no matter what"... not the case, I assure you.

Then you get the situation - as here - that every Brit win is somehow not acknowledged. Name any other fight where 90% of the posters deny its validity?

Not only that, but with the undercard you get stuff like people trashing decent pros like Enzo Macrinelli and Wayne Alexander as "garbage" because they haven't even heard of them. If you haven't even seen them, how do you know what they're like? The fight was staged in ENGLAND. What did you expect them to do, fly Americans in?

This is a US forum, and so the majority of the threads are, understandably, US based. But mention any English fighter, they instantly get called a bum, the poster gets called "biased", the point the poster made gets wilfully misunderstood and an ill-informed "fact" about the UK fighter is quoted. Then God forbid the English guy wins.


Oh, one last whinge - "Britain" is made up of England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. "British" doesn't just mean English.

What, my character for not seeing it? :)

Maybe the camera angle was different in the US broadcast? Because I've just watched those rounds and still didn't see it. Honestly.

I'm just being objective here, I'm not even a Hatton fan.


Oh - The Brit thing. I fully expected it, really. If I post a thread that in any way relates to an Englishman I get accused of blind bias (like a thread recently about how I didn't like Hopkins became "you're just pissed because he schooled Eastman"... who is originally from Guyana anyway)

I never try and be blind to any boxer due to nationality - Zoo was the classier act and got beat ugly - but often I'll be Devil's Advocate and just point out a fighter's good points because I've had the opportunity to see them.

Take the Tyson-Williams fight. So many people were calling Danny a "bum" when they hadn't even seen him fight before. Now Danny might not be a class "A" fighter, but he ain't a bum. It's frustrating coming on here and reading comments about fights that people haven't even seen ("He got beat by Michael Sprott") just looked at on paper.

It's also maddening that because the UK doesn't have the FINANCE to distribute its fights the better ones get overlooked. Wayne Alexander's KO of Takaloo or Carl Thompson's of Sebastian Rothwell were both classic KOs but didn't make anyone's KO list.

I'm not being biased, just presenting a point of view. Often I do it in reaction to the views coming the other way. I won't bring it up, we've sort of kissed and made up since, but there was a time when the creator of this thread blindly read everything I posted as "I love Brits no matter what"... not the case, I assure you.

Then you get the situation - as here - that every Brit win is somehow not acknowledged. Name any other fight where 90% of the posters deny its validity?

Not only that, but you get stuff like people trashing decent pros like Enzo Macrinelli and Wayne Alexander as "garbage" because they haven't even heard of them. If you haven't even seen them, how do you know what they're like? The fight was staged in ENGLAND. What did you expect them to do, fly Americans in?

This is a US forum, and so the majority of the threads are, understandably, US based. But mention any English fighter, they instantly get called a bum, the poster gets called "biased", the point the poster made gets wilfully misunderstood and an ill-informed "fact" about the UK fighter is quoted. Then God forbid the English guy wins.


Oh, one last whinge - "Britain" is made up of England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. "British" doesn't just mean English.

His character. Probably more accurately, "his competitiveness". Just disregard that remark. It wasn't a major incident and incidental to the end results.

His character. Probably more accurately, "his competitiveness". Just disregard that remark. It wasn't a major incident and incidental to the end results.I'm just curious to see it, but I've found out my computer stopped recording when I got to the main event. (of all the luck!!)

However, I saw the repeat broadcast up to round five and I didn't see it there.

[QUOTE=Anorak]What, my character for not seeing it? :)

Maybe the camera angle was different in the US broadcast? Because I've just watched those rounds and still didn't see it. Honestly.

I'm just being objective here, I'm not even a Hatton fan.


What's this all about? You addressin me?

"Oh - The Brit thing. I fully expected it, really. If I post a thread that in any way relates to an Englishman I get accused of blind bias (like a thread recently about how I didn't like Hopkins became "you're just pissed because he schooled Eastman"... who is originally from Guyana anyway)

I never try and be blind to any boxer due to nationality - Zoo was the classier act and got beat ugly - but often I'll be Devil's Advocate and just point out a fighter's good points because I've had the opportunity to see them."

And all of this **** that follows, is this addressed to me?:
Then you get the situation - as here - that every Brit win is somehow not acknowledged. Name any other fight where 90% of the posters deny its validity?

Not only that, but with the undercard you get stuff like people trashing decent pros like Enzo Macrinelli and Wayne Alexander as "garbage" because they haven't even heard of them. If you haven't even seen them, how do you know what they're like? The fight was staged in ENGLAND. What did you expect them to do, fly Americans in?

This is a US forum, and so the majority of the threads are, understandably, US based. But mention any English fighter, they instantly get called a bum, the poster gets called "biased", the point the poster made gets wilfully misunderstood and an ill-informed "fact" about the UK fighter is quoted. Then God forbid the English guy wins.


Oh, one last whinge - "Britain" is made up of England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. "British" doesn't just mean English.

And all of this **** that follows, is this addressed to me?"All of this ****". Nice manners you have. :)

No, it was just a ramble based on stuff said earlier in the thread by various posters.


The first bit was though - we were discussing the hit behind the head bit, remember?

Yeah, I remember bout the head thing. The reason for some of that other stuff is that our perspectives diverge sometimes as you've said and you correctly stated that we would imagine someone we've never heard of is not that impressive.

That's not surprising though. The same is true of most people, not just Americans. I am quite aware that America(and Britain) aren't perfect.

Oh ****! I almost forgot. Sorry bout all that goddamn cussing yo.

what I think is funny.....is that whole "we deserve an apology". LOL who is the opposition party here? the australians? Yarmez and McKay owe the brits an apology then....and they never said anything derogatory about Hatton. How come this is a battle of U.S. V.S. Britain and not Britain V.S. Australia?

Oh ****! I almost forgot. Sorry bout all that goddamn cussing yo.No, no problem. :) I just get confused, sometimes you seem to want to discuss stuff with me, next post you're calling me an ******* or whatever. It's like two separate guys talking to me with the same ID at times. :)


I think it's just frustrating that so many UK fighters don't get exposure. Okay, I admit, lots ARE crap... it's a minority sport over here, after all... but if good ones get a shot and then get beat they're instantly trashed and dropped again. Look at Junior Witter... took him years to shake off a loss to Zab Judah, but that guy's a talented cat.

Oh yeah, Junior Witter is deserving of another shot. He's got an awkward style for opponents to solve and heavy hands.

I've just seen it. It was in the middle of the first round, yes, very clear.

It seems Hatton's plan was to roughhouse Zoo and - quite cleverly when facing a thinking fighter like Zoo - not give him chance to think. Yeah, the "spin round and smack"... it was a dirty, foul-filled fight (from both sides) but I'd like to think that - especially given the respect they have for one another - Ricky wouldn't purposefully hit another boxer in the back of the head. I think it was supposed to be a temple shot, I dunno. Obviously way off target but I don't think it was intended - I certainly didn't see any hesistation before he did it.

They were both holding and hitting. Barrera and Hamed were slightly tangled up and Barrera was wrong for doing something like that, but the way that Hatton spun KT around, and even waited a split second, then threw the punch. I can't and will not respect that. Like I said, Hatton gets his props for taking out a legend, but i'll never cheer for him or support him. That was some terrible ****. I'd be embarassed about that if I was a Hatton fan.
Man if that cheap shot shocked you so bad... I gotta upload some Mike Tyson fights for you!... LOL!... They'll turn you off boxing for good!!!... - Ear biting's and hitting the referee on the floor to continue an already waved off fight, trying to break another fighters arm, it goes on and on!...

It'll certainly be an eye opener!...

;)

Nice 1 Ricky. Now I hope he comes over and floors all of ur ****ing boxers aswell.

I'd love to see him vs Mayweather. Mayweather would ***** slap his ass all over the ring.

I have the fight, but only watched the first round. I was really disappointed in Ricky when he spun Kostya and smacked him in the back of the head. I'd never seen that done before. The ref didn't do much about it, either.

Look at the disrespect Lewis got for years.. Despite being the best heavyweight (considering skill, record etc.) since Ali...

Uhmm, Larry Holmes, anyone? I think Larry was better than Lewis, and he probably fought better competition, too. Lewis was king of nobodies. He was good, but come on, he wasn't better than Holmes.

worst first post ever. which Hatton fan decided to create a new name? He ruined his legacy for bowing out to the better man? are ****ing mentally ill? He's lost twice in his career and has been fighting nothing but championship fights for like the past decade. His legacy has been established for a long time.

damn godz..haven't seen you fired up like this thread before. Ricky Hatton fought a great fight and deserved the win. Hatton fights dirty..yes. Being a quitter is worse in my opinion. Then Tzyzu almost mounted Hatton during the post fight. I like respect for your opponent, but my god Tzyzu..layoff the man hugs. You just quit we really don't care how much you love Hatton and respect him.

I like Tzyzu, but he really dissapointed me with this quitting business. No shame in losing a tough bout...but "bowing" out was not the proper thing to do.

The intentional low blow was way worse than the punch behind the head. That was shameful, considering that Kostya's "low blows" were borderline and definitely not intentional. Kostya should have grabbed his sack and tossed him into the crowd of drunks.

Poor old Kostya... not only did he get beat, he has to go back to Australia with a pair of black bollocks.

The intentional low blow was way worse than the punch behind the head. That was shameful, considering that Kostya's "low blows" were borderline and definitely not intentional. Kostya should have grabbed his sack and tossed him into the crowd of drunks.I love that btw... "crowd of drunks". Nice anti-Limey inference. Like all the crowds at Vegas are upstanding pillars of society who are stone cold sober and behaving themselves, eh? :)

Refuse to respond to me then, cos quite frankly the quicker you shut your mouth the better for every1. Its funny how u "breath" hip-hop and then get the name of the rapper wrong. Biggie didnt write the lyric that was in my sig when u said it was "wack". **** man ive outdone u and all i have been doing is sitting here in my chair and watch you make a fool of yourself. I probably dont have a better chance of outdoing u with boxing knowledge as admitedly i dont know as much as half the people on this site. I just argue my case.

And when did i go crazy over a win in "300 years". I went mad when people like u (hypocrites) start to make Hattons victory seem like it wasnt important or that he doesnt deserve it. U r the ****ing one who gives Boxing altogether a bad name not me.

What the **** are you talking about, he said it himself that he gives Hattons win credit and that he deserved the win, i hate it when ppl put words in other ppl's mouth, not saying you do that all the time, but it get annoying seeing it over and over again by a lot of ppl on this site, no disrespect to you :D

Yes it is true that we Americans are a much more civilized people. That's why while you limeys are out getting into bar fights in pubs and places of ill repute, we are out oppressing dangerous homosexuals and Darwinists and keeping the world safe/ spreading God's love via nonviolent methods such as Tomahawk missiles and the threat of nuclear oblivion.

Just a couple of points here:

NEITHER fighter was hit hard enough in the back of the head to be hurt or affected at all by it. It was going on from both sides, but in a fight like that, you have to expect the fighters to try and score with the judges any way they can.

RE: Low blows
I don't really believe either of these guys were 100% intentional when they hit low, even Ricky's blatant low shot after Kostya was warned for his own low blows. This **** happens, and it really shouldn't be an issue, for fans or fighters either one.

Ricky's "slip'n'trip":
That was a knockdown from a clean body shot on the beltline, and should've been ruled as such. He didn't slip, didn't trip, and wasn't about to take a nap 'cause he was gettin' sleepy. In the end it didn't matter, but I'm a bit pissed off at the ref for his poor job at that point, specifically. There's a slight possibility that, if it had been ruled properly as a knockdown, Tszyu would've been more inclined to believe he had a legitimate reason to take a chance with the scorecards at the end. Or, it may have made no difference at all....we'll never know. It's not a big deal, really, just another part of this fight that disappointed me greatly.

Sportsmanship:
The one thing that kept this fight from being the worst fight of the year for me, was the sportsmanship and respect shown by both fighters for each other. They obviously hold each other in very high regard, both publicly and privately, and when I see fighters behave like these gentlemen did, it makes me think there's still hope for my favorite sport after all.

And finally, the "quitter" label being hung around Tszyu's neck:
When one of you guys who've suddenly decided you hate the quitter can go 11 rounds in a fight that looks like that one, and then answer the bell for the 12th, your opinion counts. Until then, shut the **** up.

Awsome post :)

Yes it is true that we Americans are a much more civilized people. That's why while you limeys are out getting into bar fights in pubs and places of ill repute, we are out oppressing dangerous homosexuals and Darwinists and keeping the world safe/ spreading God's love via nonviolent methods such as Tomahawk missiles and the threat of nuclear oblivion.

LOL! Too funny

Yes it is true that we Americans are a much more civilized people. That's why while you limeys are out getting into bar fights in pubs and places of ill repute, we are out oppressing dangerous homosexuals and Darwinists and keeping the world safe/ spreading God's love via nonviolent methods such as Tomahawk missiles and the threat of nuclear oblivion.

ouch...........................

is it as bad as the rabbid pac fan era
those were dark times
:(

damn godz..haven't seen you fired up like this thread before. Ricky Hatton fought a great fight and deserved the win. Hatton fights dirty..yes. Being a quitter is worse in my opinion. Then Tzyzu almost mounted Hatton during the post fight. I like respect for your opponent, but my god Tzyzu..layoff the man hugs. You just quit we really don't care how much you love Hatton and respect him.

I like Tzyzu, but he really dissapointed me with this quitting business. No shame in losing a tough bout...but "bowing" out was not the proper thing to do.

So bowing out was not the proper thing to do...he bowed out to a better man and the way the fight was going he was risking some serious injury to his face. Did you see his face afterword with those hb's and elbows, cmon now would you want to continue in that type of fight..i think not.

And finally, the "quitter" label being hung around Tszyu's neck:
When one of you guys who've suddenly decided you hate the quitter can go 11 rounds in a fight that looks like that one, and then answer the bell for the 12th, your opinion counts. Until then, shut the **** up.

under your logic, the only people who can have an opinion on this fight would be KT and Hatton. Becuase nobody in the world knows what KT felt like except him. If only participants and "knowledgable" guys were allowed to have an opinion and not "shut the **** up" I think Boxing ratings and PPV numbers would fall slightly. Many people on this site have been in the ring, but I'm sure few have been in a fight situation like that. Hatton deserved the victory, but we deserved better from KT.

as far as the quitter label goes, if you quit, you are a quitter. I like KT and Hatton, but as I said before, it was dissapointing to see KT do that.

So bowing out was not the proper thing to do...he bowed out to a better man and the way the fight was going he was risking some serious injury to his face. Did you see his face afterword with those hb's and elbows, cmon now would you want to continue in that type of fight..i think not.

i don't get paid millions to fight.

Oh yeah, Junior Witter is deserving of another shot. He's got an awkward style for opponents to solve and heavy hands.

Are you joking?? Junior Witter has only beaten Ndou(who is tough but nothing more), the rest have been terrible, most shouldnt even be fighting pro.

Let Witter fight someone like Tackie or Leija and maybe he could get a shot.

Yes it is true that we Americans are a much more civilized people. That's why while you limeys are out getting into bar fights in pubs and places of ill repute, we are out oppressing dangerous homosexuals and Darwinists and keeping the world safe/ spreading God's love via nonviolent methods such as Tomahawk missiles and the threat of nuclear oblivion.An American that GETS irony! I love ya, buddy! (Though not in a gay way, obviously...)

i don't get paid millions to fight.

Yeah well it takes a true man to know when he's done and an idiot to risk killing himself.

Yeah well it takes a true man to know when he's done and an idiot to risk killing himself.

actually, people who fight are rare individuals to be able to risk their life everytime they get in the ring. To single this action out as KT being a "real man" reaks of Hatton Homerism.

I have nothing but respect for all fighters, but if we can't point out flaws, what is the point of watching. If he is so concerned with being hurt..he should have joined the circus and not become a fighter. (Actually, Boxing is a circus..bad analogy :D )

I'm really not trying to sound like a guy who dislikes Tzyzu. I really do appreciate his previous fights and skill. I was just so shocked and dissapointed when he quit.

just watched hatton vs. Tszyu, throughout the fight hatton was rushing in with his head, locks up tszyu's arms repeatedly, he was making this fight a wrestling match rather than a boxing match. very very sloppy fight and i was very disappointed. of course, u can argue that this was hatton's "strategy" to wear tzyu down, but still, i wasn't impressed by hatton AT ALL. if the fight was in the u.s. or australia, ref. would've done something about hatton's dirty tactics. and the low blow in retaliation??? damn, that was definitely intentional and from the look of it, it was a devastating low blow. tszyu's low blow was arguable, u could call that legit. i give hatton credit for his stamina, relentlessness and ability to capitalize on older fighter who doesn't have as much steam as him. but skill-wise, he's not THAT impressive....

I have the fight on Xvid format, might be able to up it if no one else has.

I've watched it a few times again, definitely Ricky came in with the right strategy. It did make the fight seem almost like a wrestling match though.

And yeah, that one sequence where Ricky nailed Kostya right in the back of the head made me wonder if I was watching a fight outside my local bar.

Man if that cheap shot shocked you so bad... I gotta upload some Mike Tyson fights for you!... LOL!... They'll turn you off boxing for good!!!... - Ear biting's and hitting the referee on the floor to continue an already waved off fight, trying to break another fighters arm, it goes on and on!...

It'll certainly be an eye opener!...

;)


Lol, yeah i know about tyson, thats why im not a fan.

Kicking the **** out of an old wino down the street and then pissing in his face. A complete pugilist instruction package.

LOL!!!!!

Lol, yeah i know about tyson, thats why im not a fan.
LOL!... ;) Yeah man, I was just kidding with my earlier post.