Im i the only one who thinks the fight was fixed???
idk why but Kostya quitting all of a sudden
all everything he has said its kida suspicius

Im i the only one who thinks the fight was fixed???
idk why but Kostya quitting all of a sudden
all everything he has said its kida suspicius

come on now, give hatton his props. Tszyu looked beat in those last 2 rounds.

no

i started writing a comment there for this crazy post but then i didnt bother humouring it.

come on now, give hatton his props. Tszyu looked beat in those last 2 rounds.
i do give ricky props
all im saying is that
its kinda suspicius

i do give ricky props
all im saying is that
its kinda suspicius

whats suspicious about it? Tszyu was beat, and had little left. As sad as I was to see it happen, thats how it went down.

Im i the only one who thinks the fight was fixed???
idk why but Kostya quitting all of a sudden
all everything he has said its kida suspicius
Dont worry mate, ur just suffering from a severe case of Loser's syndrome. I bet you were one of the wankers who doubted Ricky before the fight and now a thread like this is created.

Heres your answer. No the fight wasnt fixed. Ricky and the BRITISH crowd are too "legendary" for the former champion.

i do give ricky props
all im saying is that
its kinda suspicius

As the round went on you could see Tszyu getting more and more punishment, i think it was the right thing to do because when a fighters that tired and hurt thing become risky.

I think Tszyu's corner did a great job because they knew he was behind on the cards and wanted to keep his health.

Dont worry mate, ur just suffering from a severe case of Loser's syndrome. I bet you were one of the wankers who doubted Ricky before the fight and now a thread like this is created.

Heres your answer. No the fight wasnt fixed. Ricky and the BRITISH crowd are too "legendary" for the former champion.Yeah, leting Hatton cheat like that, real nice, I cant wait until Hatton fights in the US, cause without all that holding, somebody (like Cotto, Judah) could box him comtably on the outside.

Even though he was a bit hurt and down on the cards, he still landed some shots on Hatton. I still think he should have fought it out, even just holding on, to go the distance. And who knows, he could of got lucky and socked Hattons ass. Or he could have been put down, either way, unless you have a valid injury quitting is not good enough.

If the fight was fixed, Tszyu wouldn't have had to quit. The judges would have taken care of the "fixing".

The 107-102 seemed a tad excessive, but the other two judges seemed right on.

Hatton beat Tszyu tonight. I wanted Ricky to win, but didn't think he would. No way the fix was in tonight, though.

Everyone is going to throw every excuse in the book as to why Tszyuperman lost. But why? The reason Tszyu lost has no speculation or anything suspicious about it. Tszyu has never been smothered and Hatton smothered his attacks. Hatton pointed out that Tszyu is better at a distance and his right is neutralized inside and even from a short distance. Hatton executed his gameplan and followed through. Everybody knows Hatton has a crazy punch output and that played to the smothering attack that Hatton claimed he would follow through.

Nothing disputed about it, a fighter lost to a better fighter that night. Tszyu has no complaints or bitter feelings nor should anybody else, it was a good fight and the better man one tonight. Nothing more and nothing less.

The 140 pound division just got that more interesting.

Dont worry mate, ur just suffering from a severe case of Loser's syndrome. I bet you were one of the wankers who doubted Ricky before the fight and now a thread like this is created.

Heres your answer. No the fight wasnt fixed. Ricky and the BRITISH crowd are too "legendary" for the former champion.
mmmm actually i said a couple of times that i wanted Ricky to win.
you people are like paranoid
excuse me but just because Ricky is British doesnt mean
that every time someone says somethign about Ricky it doesnt mean they are hating on british fighters.
have you ever tought that???

As the round went on you could see Tszyu getting more and more punishment, i think it was the right thing to do because when a fighters that tired and hurt thing become risky.

I think Tszyu's corner did a great job because they knew he was behind on the cards and wanted to keep his health.

Exactly i agree completely

Hey Compa... CHIVAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
hahahaha

Nah that fight was just ugly, they both looked like bums.

Ok.. El Jefe, your a tosser for suggesting the fight is fixed... If you want a fixed fight I can think of a 100 better examples that Hatton Vs Tszyu and I'm sure people on this forum will back me up! Enough with the sour grapes, it was a scrappy fight with a **** referee but it's hardly the first time that's happened is it!

And Exig3... Stop being a prick and giving the rest of us Brits a bad name.. What the **** does the British crowd were too "legendary" mean?! That doesn't even make sense!

I'm new on this forum but some people on here are pissing me right off already! Tossers!

And IWATCHBOXING, you've had over 1000 posts on this forum so you should know better... Hatton didn't cheat he just fought rough... AND WON!!

Jeez.. Anyone else losing patience with this crap! :mad:

Im i the only one who thinks the fight was fixed???
idk why but Kostya quitting all of a sudden
all everything he has said its kida suspicius

C'mon!!! :D everytime a fight result happens theres always a fix possiblity being thrown out there. Hell people even tried to say Spinks getting Koed by Judah was fixed...C'mon! :D

Hell people even tried to say Spinks getting Koed by Judah was fixed...C'mon! :D

it was :D

C'mon!!! :D everytime a fight result happens theres always a fix possiblity being thrown out there. Hell people even tried to say Spinks getting Koed by Judah was fixed...C'mon! :D


haha, I never heard that one and wouldnt know why. Judah KNOCKED HIM THE **** OUT! That was one of the best KO's in recent memory. Almost as entertaining as his uncles against Kid Dynamite :)

haha, I never heard that one and wouldnt know why. Judah KNOCKED HIM THE **** OUT! That was one of the best KO's in recent memory. Almost as entertaining as his uncles against Kid Dynamite :)
yeah spinks had that one coming .
judah koed him while dancing, showboating & landing some
sweet shots

I tell you man boxing fans can be some of the best and some of the worst ever. Everytime there is a close decision or someone gets beat that wasn't supposed to get beat someone cries robbery or fix.

Everyone is going to throw every excuse in the book as to why Tszyuperman lost. But why? The reason Tszyu lost has no speculation or anything suspicious about it. Tszyu has never been smothered and Hatton smothered his attacks. Hatton pointed out that Tszyu is better at a distance and his right is neutralized inside and even from a short distance. Hatton executed his gameplan and followed through. Everybody knows Hatton has a crazy punch output and that played to the smothering attack that Hatton claimed he would follow through.

Nothing disputed about it, a fighter lost to a better fighter that night. Tszyu has no complaints or bitter feelings nor should anybody else, it was a good fight and the better man one tonight. Nothing more and nothing less.

The 140 pound division just got that more interesting.

Great Post :D

Ok.. El Jefe, your a tosser for suggesting the fight is fixed... If you want a fixed fight I can think of a 100 better examples that Hatton Vs Tszyu and I'm sure people on this forum will back me up! Enough with the sour grapes, it was a scrappy fight with a **** referee but it's hardly the first time that's happened is it!

And Exig3... Stop being a prick and giving the rest of us Brits a bad name.. What the **** does the British crowd were too "legendary" mean?! That doesn't even make sense!

I'm new on this forum but some people on here are pissing me right off already! Tossers!

And IWATCHBOXING, you've had over 1000 posts on this forum so you should know better... Hatton didn't cheat he just fought rough... AND WON!!

Jeez.. Anyone else losing patience with this crap! :mad:

Waiting for a while for someone to say that, im with you.

Yeah, leting Hatton cheat like that, real nice, I cant wait until Hatton fights in the US, cause without all that holding, somebody (like Cotto, Judah) could box him comtably on the outside.


the holding, the coming in with his head, the all around bullying and leaning on him with his chest and head, the rabbit punches (yes, KT threw some too)..just in general dirty fighting that I didnt expect from Hatton :eek:

nah i dont think the fight was fixed.but hatton was getting his way in the ring with dirty tatics.if he is a true sport,he wouldnt have done all the illegal things in the ring.but he knew he vould get away with it so he did them.i think if hatton fights in the states he would prolly get DQed from a couple of his fights.NOW the fight i want to see is hatton vs zab "super" judah....i think zab boxes hattons head off.what yall think.and if you cant reply to my post with some sort of intellegent comments dont responsed at all.

nah i dont think the fight was fixed.but hatton was getting his way in the ring with dirty tatics.if he is a true sport,he wouldnt have done all the illegal things in the ring.but he knew he vould get away with it so he did them.i think if hatton fights in the states he would prolly get DQed from a couple of his fights.NOW the fight i want to see is hatton vs zab "super" judah....i think zab boxes hattons head off.what yall think.and if you cant reply to my post with some sort of intellegent comments dont responsed at all.
what a retarded ass post.

ya say a fighter boxes another fighters head off, yet ya want a serious reply?

Yeah slipx just to let you know b4 any more mistakes are made on ur behalf i quoted Ricky Hatton when i said the british crowd were legendary. If u wanna give me bad karma for simply quoting some1 go ahead, just shows that your last resort really was up. U cant argue against the facts (ie Ricky Hatton actually won even though all u lot r *****ing, and yes Ricky hatton did describe the crowd as that). U obviously werent watching or listening to the fight so u wouldnt know these things dont worry urself. but next time u try to make a smart ass comment just make sure u know what ur tlking about and then dish out fair criticism. Not bad karma for quoting The Champion. **** face.

the holding, the coming in with his head, the all around bullying and leaning on him with his chest and head, the rabbit punches (yes, KT threw some too)..just in general dirty fighting that I didnt expect from Hatton :eek:

that kind of **** is normal in europe.

you can grab and hit behind the head 24/7 and get nothing but warnings.you can push your man down time after tiem and get no warnings
atch any valuev fight the one vs etienne is entertaining


they need to use US boxing's rules, but KEEP their own rules when it comes to giving the fighters the microphone after the fight if a title is given over or underdog wins, or if it's a memorable fight in general..i really like the idea of lettin the guys speak their parts, tszyu wasnt used to that at all :)

did they give hatton the mic or did he just grab it? Lol

but yeah.

Euro boxing:cool thing they do letting fighters talk, but their referees/boxing rules still suck horribly.


EDITED- i chuckled when i saw KT start rabbit punching back.

thats why i like tszyu, he went into the fight clean, but when he saw hattons dirty tactics hitting behind the head and etc..tszyus like **** it i can do that too,grabbed and stuck him behind the head many times as well..i like that mentality ;p

that kind of **** is normal in europe.

you can grab and hit behind the head 24/7 and get nothing but warnings.you can push your man down time after tiem and get no warnings
atch any valuev fight the one vs etienne is entertaining


they need to use US boxing's rules, but KEEP their own rules when it comes to giving the fighters the microphone after the fight if a title is given over or underdog wins, or if it's a memorable fight in general..i really like the idea of lettin the guys speak their parts, tszyu wasnt used to that at all :)

did they give hatton the mic or did he just grab it? Lol

but yeah.

Euro boxing:cool thing they do letting fighters talk, but their referees/boxing rules still suck horribly.


EDITED- i chuckled when i saw KT start rabbit punching back.

thats why i like tszyu, he went into the fight clean, but when he saw hattons dirty tactics hitting behind the head and etc..tszyus like **** it i can do that too,grabbed and stuck him behind the head many times as well..i like that mentality ;p


Good point, All euro fighters are like that. Ruiz would be a legend. :)

Yeah slipx just to let you know b4 any more mistakes are made on ur behalf i quoted Ricky Hatton when i said the british crowd were legendary. If u wanna give me bad karma for simply quoting some1 go ahead, just shows that your last resort really was up. U cant argue against the facts (ie Ricky Hatton actually won even though all u lot r *****ing, and yes Ricky hatton did describe the crowd as that). U obviously werent watching or listening to the fight so u wouldnt know these things dont worry urself. but next time u try to make a smart ass comment just make sure u know what ur tlking about and then dish out fair criticism. Not bad karma for quoting The Champion. **** face.
rdy to get pwnd?here we go.


America wouldnt be what it is without Britain


It's the other way around, or maybe they didn't teach you about a little sacrifice America made for Europe, called D-Day??? We cracked the Nazi grip on Western europe, sacrificing 9000 of our men in one day of war, for YOUR FREEDOM. IF IT WASNT FOR AMERICANS YOU'D BE SPEAKING GERMAN RIGHT NOW!

and no Hatton will beat all ur chumps. Bring our "legendary" crowd over and we'll do the lot of you.
Hatton has just won a fight and this is all he can say. Well all i can say is ur all ****ERS.

That speaks for itself..it's official..you're the dumbest euro poster on boxingscene.

That speaks for itself..it's official..you're the dumbest euro poster on boxingscene.

LoL..you funny man..

We gotta go to kronk next year, go pro and go to England and knock their fighters out n shut the people up:D

When I saw Hatton talk on the microphone I was like...

Has the Rocky movies come to life????

The last time I seen someone do that was Leonard when he beat Hagler..

I hope they start doin that for big fights...
When you go to a fight, it feels REAL different without hearing the commentators talk and stuff..and you can't see the fighters get interviewd..

So that way the audience can hear them...

LoL..you funny man..

We gotta go to kronk next year, go pro and go to England and knock their fighters out n shut the people up:D

When I saw Hatton talk on the microphone I was like...

Has the Rocky movies come to life????

The last time I seen someone do that was Leonard when he beat Hagler..

I hope they start doin that for big fights...
When you go to a fight, it feels REAL different without hearing the commentators talk and stuff..and you can't see the fighters get interviewd..

So that way the audience can hear them...

lol ;p

yea hopefully they'll start givin em the mic instead of gettin merchants old ass up there to steal the spotlight

LoL..you funny man..

We gotta go to kronk next year, go pro and go to England and knock their fighters out n shut the people up:D

When I saw Hatton talk on the microphone I was like...

Has the Rocky movies come to life????

The last time I seen someone do that was Leonard when he beat Hagler..

I hope they start doin that for big fights...
When you go to a fight, it feels REAL different without hearing the commentators talk and stuff..and you can't see the fighters get interviewd..

So that way the audience can hear them...
Tua addressed the crowd like that against Griffis earlier this year...

Tua addressed the crowd like that against Griffis earlier this year...

That was a ppv fight so i didnt see it and I would buy a ppv with Tua fighting a bum...

and who the hell is griffis lol

The only person in that fight that got cheated was the fans. They deserved to see a 12th round war. They both have a punchers chance. It could have went either way. Me personally i think if anyone was gonna get knocked out it would have been tszyu. This was a good old fashion fight. They both held, they both landed low blows, and they both got away with it. So instead of complaining someone cheated and honor the decision. Tszyu quit cause he was a beaten man. I wished just for once people could give a fighter his due. My hats off to hatton, he was clearly a better fighter that night

Im i the only one who thinks the fight was fixed???
idk why but Kostya quitting all of a sudden
all everything he has said its kida suspicius
No, it wasn't fixed. If it'd been a fixed fight, Don King would've been involved, and you'd have seen an early round upset KO.

There was a time or two when I thought something strange was going on, but it was just coincidence, nothing more. A couple of times, right before the ref would break up a clinch, I saw Hatton glance at the ref just before he'd come in to break them up, but like I said, it was just coincidence. I trust both these fighters not to ever accept a predetermined outcome to a fight.

Making allegations or accusations (or even hinting at it) like this doesn't help the sport of boxing, by the way. And if you were to say such a thing to either Hatton or Tszyu in person, you'd probably be making a trip to a dentist for some bridgwork, I'm thinking. Even jokingly, this isn't something fighters take lightly.

I hate to stop someone having a go at Exig3 cos the guy is a prick and posts like an 8 year old child but...

It's the other way around, or maybe they didn't teach you about a little sacrifice America made for Europe, called D-Day??? We cracked the Nazi grip on Western europe, sacrificing 9000 of our men in one day of war, for YOUR FREEDOM. IF IT WASNT FOR AMERICANS YOU'D BE SPEAKING GERMAN RIGHT NOW!

This crap is just wrong though! Something you Americans tend to forget is that you WERE BRITISH CITIZENS before the American revolution. You were British until you became traitors against your king because you didn't want to pay taxes!

IF IT WASN'T FOR THE BRITISH YOU WOULDN'T ****ING EXIST!

And as for WW2 it constantly pisses brits off that americans say they saved our asses in that war! We fought on our own for THREE ****ING YEARS before you decided to do what you should have done from the start, defend your oldest ally and fight FASCISM!

Finally, you should be more worried than ever because the parallels between NAZI Germany in the 1930's and the good ol' US or A present day are damn close!

Bush is a CUNT! ;) Looking forward to the reaction to that one!

I hate to stop someone having a go at Exig3 cos the guy is a prick and posts like an 8 year old child but...



This crap is just wrong though! Something you Americans tend to forget is that you WERE BRITISH CITIZENS before the American revolution. You were British until you became traitors against your king because you didn't want to pay taxes!

IF IT WASN'T FOR THE BRITISH YOU WOULDN'T ****ING EXIST!

And as for WW2 it constantly pisses brits off that americans say they saved our asses in that war! We fought on our own for THREE ****ING YEARS before you decided to do what you should have done from the start, defend your oldest ally and fight FASCISM!

Finally, you should be more worried than ever because the parallels between NAZI Germany in the 1930's and the good ol' US or A present day are damn close!

Bush is a CUNT! ;) Looking forward to the reaction to that one!

Are you still talkin? please shut the **** up and get a life, you talk to much..

Bush is a cunt?, and I care how?
I never voted for him anyways, you ****face

I don't like to discuss WWII with people who obviously know little or nothing about it, but I wanted to chime in here, just for a second:

WWII was probably the biggest armed conflict this planet will ever know, and involved a helluva lot more than just the British, the US troops, and Germans. To say that one or the other "saved their ass" is a slap in the face of WWII vets (who are dying off at a terrible pace now) from all countries, some of whom gave far more lives, respectively, than others with far larger populations and resources. Suffice it to say that every man that flew, sailed or hit a beach during that war is a ****ing world hero, and leave it at that.

I hate to stop someone having a go at Exig3 cos the guy is a prick and posts like an 8 year old child but...



This crap is just wrong though! Something you Americans tend to forget is that you WERE BRITISH CITIZENS before the American revolution. You were British until you became traitors against your king because you didn't want to pay taxes!

IF IT WASN'T FOR THE BRITISH YOU WOULDN'T ****ING EXIST!

And as for WW2 it constantly pisses brits off that americans say they saved our asses in that war! We fought on our own for THREE ****ING YEARS before you decided to do what you should have done from the start, defend your oldest ally and fight FASCISM!

Finally, you should be more worried than ever because the parallels between NAZI Germany in the 1930's and the good ol' US or A present day are damn close!

Bush is a CUNT! ;) Looking forward to the reaction to that one!


It's beyond me why you'd assume all americans are white, but I have some info for you. They aren't. Some are asian, some are african, some are latino, some are indian, and some are white. So..you are wrong, America would still exist without Britain. And the fact that brits get mad when we saved their asses in the war, is exactly why most of us hate those kind of brits that say **** like that. Western Europe was nothing but nazis..read your ****ing history book,families were being executed by the 100s every day,when we showed up, it was the beginning of the end for the nazi's..if we had never came, you'd be teaching your kid Mein Kampf for english, you ungrateful little hoe.

Oh yeah, and it's interesting you think you'll rally some kind of 'response' by burning bush..lets me know you're all that more of a ****head for assuming every american supports him.

bush is a cunt, this is coming from an airman serving in the air force,his actions are a disgrace,and ive seriously considered relocating to vancouver or amsterdam when im done with the AF if he gets in office again.

All the Zoo fans should stop crying he lost fair and square and as for the holding it was a dirty fight but by both fighters.

I was wrong to not specify 'White' Americans mate so point taken... America would exist but it wouldn't be called America!

The country was created by us, the French and the Spanish! It's a fact mate unless your Sioux or Cherokee which judging from your signature you aint!

Why am I a '****head' (touche!) for slating Bush and expecting a response though? Enough of you ****ing voted for the guy for him to get a second term so he must have a 'few' supporters over there!

Sure western Europe was occupied by Nazi's but WE WERE DYING AND TRYING TO STOP THEM while you were all eating ****ing apple pie!

Fine, you saved our asses but they should never have needed saving! Get it?!

I can ignore the fact your calling me an ungrateful 'hoe' (run a spell check Einstein cos that's the spelling for a garden tool! I'm assuming you mean 'Ho') as well because like I said, the only reason America came into existance is because they were a bunch of ****ing traitors who rebelled against there rightful ruler! THE KING OF ****ING ENGLAND! And not because they were under tryanny or any other **** because they didn't want to pay taxes! NICE!

I would say read your own ****ing history books but I'd imagine there all bull**** and end with 'God Bless America' anyway so what's the point...

Never in my life would i ever expect to see someone french make any type of argument as to why there country is so great . It doesnt matter what history book you read france got the sh** kicked out of them in every single war they ever fought in . They fight run away America helps them then they criticize them after words , please spare us the French talk

Are you still talkin? please shut the **** up and get a life, you talk to much..

Yeah, I'm still talking.. It's a forum mate, that's the point!

If you don't like what I'm saying then fair enough but try writing a response instead of calling ma a '****face' *what are you 8!*

Solo1.....by your logic, the English, French, etc. wouldn't exist if not for the Romans. Just wanted to point out your flawed reasoning, friend.

Also, if the English had actually had their choice originally, the United States still wouldn't exist, so I think you really should've said "In spite of", rather than "if not for". ;)

This wasn't a fix....Tszyu lost fair and square and decided not to answer the final bell...he wasn't in great shape but I've seen boxers finish the last round in worse shape than Tszyu was in...Hatton beat him AND took his heart out of the fight..I had predicted that Hatton had a good chance of winning this one...Tszyu has passed the torch to another fighter much like himself, a sportsman and overall nice guy...I would have been upset if he lost to that arrogant woman beating prick mayweather, but Hatton seems like a "nice chap"...good fights to come I think...Hatton is young and will give anyone trouble (he may want to stay away from Mayweather till he has fought some of the other top gus though, much as I hate him Mayweather has incredible skills).

This wasn't a fix....Tszyu lost fair and square and decided not to answer the final bell...he wasn't in great shape but I've seen boxers finish the last round in worse shape than Tszyu was in...Hatton beat him AND took his heart out of the fight..I had predicted that Hatton had a good chance of winning this one...Tszyu has passed the torch to another fighter much like himself, a sportsman and overall nice guy...I would have been upset if he lost to that arrogant woman beating prick mayweather, but Hatton seems like a "nice chap"...good fights to come I think...Hatton is young and will give anyone trouble (he may want to stay away from Mayweather till he has fought some of the other top gus though, much as I hate him Mayweather has incredible skills).
I think there were several factors that contributed to Tszyu not answering the bell, not the least among them being a lack of any friendly faces in the crowd. He was nearly boooo'd out of the arena when he walked to the ring. That can't make a guy feel good when he's about to start a 12 round war. Knowing how the crowd felt, and knowing how the judges were likely to score, you can't really blame the guy for not coming out. He knew he wasn't going to get a chance to land his big right, and he thought (as I did) that he was way behind on the cards.

Stickman - We would exist but we'd all be Welsh! And anyway, I've got no problem with your statement re the Romans, I've never denied it. Your right that USA exist in spite of the British but my point was that it wouldn't exist as it is today... which means it's all our fault! ****! :o

Super Zab - Ever heard of Napolean?

Ok, enough though, we'll agree to disagree, I come on here to talk about boxing not this nonsense.. Apologies to everyone else on the forum! Except for those who are calling me a ****face or a ****head! They can go suck off their dad/brother if they aint already!

:D

Stickman - We would exist but we'd all be Welsh!......

Welsh? Naw, you'd all be Scots. They'd have gotten bored and invaded the rest of the island probably around 350 or 400 AD, if the Romans hadn't gotten the jump on 'em :D

The Scots are actaully Irish so not sure where that leaves us!

I'm Cornish anyway so no change for me! :D

Yeah , if you are cool it doesnt matter where you are from , Cool in universal .

what a retarded ass post.

ya say a fighter boxes another fighters head off, yet ya want a serious reply?

you are a fukn morin.stupid ass.how is it a retarded post....i think it is to hard a question for your simple ass mind to comprehend...

I think there were several factors that contributed to Tszyu not answering the bell, not the least among them being a lack of any friendly faces in the crowd. He was nearly boooo'd out of the arena when he walked to the ring. That can't make a guy feel good when he's about to start a 12 round war. Knowing how the crowd felt, and knowing how the judges were likely to score, you can't really blame the guy for not coming out. He knew he wasn't going to get a chance to land his big right, and he thought (as I did) that he was way behind on the cards.


I was still shocked that a fighter who normally shows as much heart as Tszyu does allowed his corner to call the fight...he was losing, yeah but his heart wasn't in it...the crowd probably didn't help but he agreed to this fight and should have known that the crowd was largely going to favour Hatton. The crowd is no excuse to just give up..he only had three minutes to go. Some fighters get knocked down ten times in one round and keep on fighting, or have multiple painful injuries (broken hands, jaws, etc) and still fight...I think there are very few champs who, even if they were losing, would allow their corner to stop the fight...Tszyu looked relieved when his corner did so...Tszyu is great fighter but his age showed in that fight and in his lack of desire to answer the final bell...My bet is that he retires or maybe takes one more big money fight but not against Hatton...Hatton walked through Tszyu's punches...a lot of people had questioned Hatton's chin as well and it looked pretty sturdy in this fight...even his knockdown when he was facing McGee looked like a flash knockdown since he got up immediately and looked fine...I think too many people think a white guys can't take a punch (JK!!!!)...Jokes aside Hatton did great and Tszyu should really consider retirement

Wouldn't surprise me if Kostya retired permanently, either. Hatton is a tough customer, and I'm not sure Tszyu would fare any better in a rematch. He might be able to learn something from this fight that would make the difference in a rematch, but then again, maybe not. Personally, if I were Kostya Tszyu, I'd retire and be done....maybe do a little commentating (his english is pretty good for a Russian), some public appearances, and just spend time with my wife and kiddies. Hell, he doesn't need the money anymore, and if he stops fighting now, before he takes some big beatings, he'll be able to grow old with some brains left in his skull, unlike some other fighters who tend to continue until they can't complete a sentence.

I think the worry for Hatton isn't his chin but his skin... I'm suprised Tszyu didn't cut him over 11 rounds and as Hatton fights more top opponents I'm sure he'll be more worried about TKO's than KO's..

no the fight wasnt ficxed kostya has bene in hospital pisisng blood with a broken nose and jaw.

so if it was fixed theres ****ing easier ways of doing it for ****s sake, what a bloody ridicuous idea after witnessing that fight. :rolleyes:

First off, much repect to Ricky Hatton. I was one of the many doubters on this site, not to mention Kostya is one of my two favorite active fighters.


That being said I do have a weird feeling about what went down. Hatton had beaten him no doubt about it, but he wasn't so hurt to quit with 3 minutes left I don't think. Maybe the Tszyu camp had a ****load of money on the fight not going the distance. I never thought in a million years this fight would go 12. I even risked all my money in a post on Friday saying I'll give 4-1 on to anyone who thinks it will go 12.

Why were the announcers all on Hatton's nuts? Everything he did they commended and if Tszyu landed a shot they barely muttered a word about it. Also, what's with the hugs and pictures and talking to the crowd after the fight. That's totally unlike anything I've ever seen. To respect a guy is one thing, but to lick his balls like Tszyu did I just don't get.

Lastly, when was the last time a fighter was interview after a close fight and they say "I felt like I was down by 3-4 rounds"! Who the **** says that! Even people dominated always say they felt like they one the fight.

Ricky is the real deal, although I think he gets away with holding too much in Manchester. I do think he would beat almost all of the 140 pounders fairly easily with the exception of Cotto. If Mayweather beats my boy Gatti, I hope Ricky whacks that ****y ****er. Hatton would swarm Mayweather and piss him off to the point he may wanna quit also.

Congrats to all the Brits on the site, your boy came through. He's a classy kid and although I'm American, I love the way he fights for his people.....much respect.

It is kind of weird considering there was only 3 minutes left but who know's what goes on in a mans mind after 11 rounds of war?

You would have thought he'd just come out a try and knock Ricky out though?

I'm sure the hoopla at the end was TV influenced as Sky Sports don't get too many fights that big so probably wanted to take advantage... TV Contracts + Sports unfortunately = ****e!

What was Tszyu's state after the fight? Did he need any medical attention? How much was he hurting?

he hasa broken nose and jaw acocridng to sky news and has been pissing blood for 48 hrs according to the sun newspaper but is cleared of any serious injury thanksfully.

cheers to those senible posters above giving hatotn credit, both men are class acts both in the ring and out of it.

just stfu y cant u jus give hatton credit for beatin the number 1 man at light welterweight .

this years sucks for me, who ever wants to make some money bet on the other guy I pick to win, it seems like every fighter I am rooting for looses, I dont think it was fixed but Tzsyu should have gone all the way, hatton get props but that one low blow by him was un called for and he was holding Kostya like crazy, kinda like a yo-yo at times, hold his arm, throws him out while holding him and then hitting him

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It's the other way around, or maybe they didn't teach you about a little sacrifice America made for Europe, called D-Day??? We cracked the Nazi grip on Western europe, sacrificing 9000 of our men in one day of war, for YOUR FREEDOM. IF IT WASNT FOR AMERICANS YOU'D BE SPEAKING GERMAN RIGHT NOW![QUOTE]
Ok you might think that because u made 1 sacrifice (and i like ur use of the word "little" in that sentence cos thats exactly wat is was) that u decided the outcome of the war. u may have had 9000 men and i can guarantee u we had triple if not more across every single one of the D-Day beaches. By D-Day (and this is coming from knowledgable historians not dicks like u) we were tightening our grip on Europe not the other way round. With russian advances in the East and the fact we had superior intelligence of their war tactics we where going to win the battle for europe. After all we had won the battle in the air around this time also (with i must add little help from the Americans). What i actually recall from my History lessons were that the Americans were reluctant to join the war and it took many attempts to get you into the war. Only when ur only ass is being attacked u help the war effort. Not for the ****ing other 4-5 years before hand or watever.

Every1 knows how dilluded the Americans are anyway. Across the world people realise that the Americans live a seperate life from the rest of the world and are unwiling to co-operatye in a number of issues which would benefit the world as a whole. So u carry on saying your stuff about the Americans won the war with 9000 men and ill continue to prove you wrong.

Hollywood even makes movies to try and make u feel better about your war effort. Saving Private Ryan and all of those type of war movies. Especially that film based on the Enigma machine being captured by the Americans. That 1 made me laf.

this years sucks for me, who ever wants to make some money bet on the other guy I pick to win, it seems like every fighter I am rooting for looses, I dont think it was fixed but Tzsyu should have gone all the way, hatton get props but that one low blow by him was un called for and he was holding Kostya like crazy, kinda like a yo-yo at times, hold his arm, throws him out while holding him and then hitting him


HGE HIT HIM WITH A LOW BLOW COS KOSTYA HAD SMAKCED HIM EALRIER ALREADY (THE ONE PEOPLE ARE CALLING A KNOCKDOWN) THEN AGIAN IN THE 10TH.

SO HATOTN LET HIM HAVE ONE BACK.


THATS BOXING AND TIT FOR TAT.

Zoo was rabbit punching in clinches a lot also.

However Hatton was fighting dirty, he had to , its was part of his gameplan. I odnt have problems with a fight being dirty if both sides are doing it.

I told a lot of people who were crapping on about Kostya being the bigger man that he wouldnt out muscle hatotn.

and so it turned out.

Nice ot be right for a change after my vitriolic Danny will beat vitali campaign made me look very stupid :o :D

EDITED- i chuckled when i saw KT start rabbit punching back.

thats why i like tszyu, he went into the fight clean, but when he saw hattons dirty tactics hitting behind the head and etc..tszyus like **** it i can do that too,grabbed and stuck him behind the head many times as well..i like that mentality ;p

I was furious, but laughed too when KT did that, and when he kinda/sorta pushed him down. I was yelling, etc. at the ref, the fighters and the whole damn world in general, so when KT started doing that I was like "yeah baby, you go...give him some of his own"..and of course I was asking Ricky "how you like that ****, punk"..man, was I pissed! Still am, come to think of it. :mad:

The only person in that fight that got cheated was the fans. They deserved to see a 12th round war. They both have a punchers chance. It could have went either way. Me personally i think if anyone was gonna get knocked out it would have been tszyu. This was a good old fashion fight. They both held, they both landed low blows, and they both got away with it. So instead of complaining someone cheated and honor the decision. Tszyu quit cause he was a beaten man. I wished just for once people could give a fighter his due. My hats off to hatton, he was clearly a better fighter that night

Uh, he was clearly the dirty fight, that I'll give ya. Kostya Tszyu would never, ever resort to dirty tatics unless he was forced to. If Ricky had been able to fight clean (and win that way, which he couldnt..hence the dirty fighting) then KT would have kept it clean too. I give props to KT for giving it right back to Hatton. As for him quitting, I totally understand it. I mean, Hatton had been allowed to fight that way all night, and dirty is not KT's style. He was so frustrated with the ref not doing his job and Hatton taking full advantage of it I dont blame him a bit for saying **** it!!!

I hate to stop someone having a go at Exig3 cos the guy is a prick and posts like an 8 year old child but...



This crap is just wrong though! Something you Americans tend to forget is that you WERE BRITISH CITIZENS before the American revolution. You were British until you became traitors against your king because you didn't want to pay taxes!

IF IT WASN'T FOR THE BRITISH YOU WOULDN'T ****ING EXIST!

And as for WW2 it constantly pisses brits off that americans say they saved our asses in that war! We fought on our own for THREE ****ING YEARS before you decided to do what you should have done from the start, defend your oldest ally and fight FASCISM!

Finally, you should be more worried than ever because the parallels between NAZI Germany in the 1930's and the good ol' US or A present day are damn close!

Bush is a CUNT! ;) Looking forward to the reaction to that one!

I don't think any one country alone could have defeated Germany in that war. That being said, the Brits weren't the only immigrants by a long shot. Yeah you fought on your own, but you only fought a piece of the German military. If it hadn't been for Hitlers' arrogance and blind confidence, the Germans may have overrun Britain before anyone else had a chance to do anything about it. That goes for any nation within striking distance of Germany during that period by the way, IMO.

Dont worry mate, ur just suffering from a severe case of Loser's syndrome. I bet you were one of the wankers who doubted Ricky before the fight and now a thread like this is created.

Heres your answer. No the fight wasnt fixed. Ricky and the BRITISH crowd are too "legendary" for the former champion.
WHAT THE **** IS "LEGENDARY" ABOUT HATTON. HE FOUGHT AN ALL-TIME GREAT IN TSZYU, BUT HE WAS NOT THE SAME TSZYU WE ALL KNOW. IT LOOKED LIKE HE HAD 1 FOOT IN RETIREMENT DURING THE WHOLE FIGHT. WHAT CORRALES HAS DONE RECENTLY IS "LEGENDARY". BEATING CASAMAYOR IN A REMATCH, THEN BEATING UNDEFEATED FREITAS & FOLLOWING THAT UP WITH AN ABSOLUTE BOXING CLASSIC AGAINST CASTILLO. IN THE LAST 2 YEARS CORRALES HAS BEAT BETTER FIGHTERS THAN HATTON EVER HAS OR WILL. NOW THAT IS LEGENDARY!!!!!!!!

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It's the other way around, or maybe they didn't teach you about a little sacrifice America made for Europe, called D-Day??? We cracked the Nazi grip on Western europe, sacrificing 9000 of our men in one day of war, for YOUR FREEDOM. IF IT WASNT FOR AMERICANS YOU'D BE SPEAKING GERMAN RIGHT NOW![QUOTE]
Ok you might think that because u made 1 sacrifice (and i like ur use of the word "little" in that sentence cos thats exactly wat is was) that u decided the outcome of the war. u may have had 9000 men and i can guarantee u we had triple if not more across every single one of the D-Day beaches. By D-Day (and this is coming from knowledgable historians not dicks like u) we were tightening our grip on Europe not the other way round. With russian advances in the East and the fact we had superior intelligence of their war tactics we where going to win the battle for europe. After all we had won the battle in the air around this time also (with i must add little help from the Americans). What i actually recall from my History lessons were that the Americans were reluctant to join the war and it took many attempts to get you into the war. Only when ur only ass is being attacked u help the war effort. Not for the ****ing other 4-5 years before hand or watever.

Every1 knows how dilluded the Americans are anyway. Across the world people realise that the Americans live a seperate life from the rest of the world and are unwiling to co-operatye in a number of issues which would benefit the world as a whole. So u carry on saying your stuff about the Americans won the war with 9000 men and ill continue to prove you wrong.
MAYBE WE WERE RELUCTANT WHEN THE WAR STARTED BUT IT WASN'T OUR HOME SOIL THAT WAS BEING TOOK OVER. YOU ****IN *******S ACT LIKE IF AMERICA WAS GETTING INVADED & IN DANGER THAT YOU WOULD SEND OVER THE WHOLE BRITISH ARMY. YOU WOULD DEFINITELY SEND OVER SOME TROOPS BUT OUR TROOPS WOULD OUTNUMBER YOUR TROOPS 20 FOLD. IT WAS YOUR COUNTRY NOT OURS. THE FACT IS THAT WITHOUT ALOT OF COUNTRIES WORKING TOGETHER HITLER MIGHT NOT HAVE BEEN DEFEATED, BUT DON'T ACT LIKE WE WERE THE ONLY REASON THAT THE WAR GOT TO THAT POINT. IT SOUNDS LIKE YOUR SAYING WE DIDN'T HELP SOON ENOUGH. **** JUST BE HAPPY THAT WE HELPED & THE NAZIS WERE DEFEATED. YOU CAN TALK AS MUCH **** AS YOU WANT ABOUT AMERICA BUT BRITAIN IS RIGHT BY OUR SIDE BECAUSE THEY KNOW THE CONSEQUENCES OF BEING ON THE BAD SIDE OF THE WORLDS MOST POWERFUL COUNTRY. FACE IT IF ANYTHING EVER WENT SOUR BETWEEN US YOU GUYS WOULD BE ****TIN YOUR PANTS OVER THERE.

u may have had 9000 men and i can guarantee u we had triple if not more across every single one of the D-Day beaches. US casualties on D-Day were roughly double that of the UK. I wish you people would read a history book, before typing irresponsible **** like this.

And again, casualty figures don't tell the story of the sacrifice for any given nation. Why dwell on this ****?


By D-Day (and this is coming from knowledgable historians not dicks like u) we were tightening our grip on Europe not the other way round. With russian advances in the East and the fact we had superior intelligence of their war tactics we where going to win the battle for europe.
Oy.



After all we had won the battle in the air around this time also (with i must add little help from the Americans).
Christ, I just had to address this statement specifically....you're obviously clueless about the air war over Europe, so let me help you out a little, here....the US provided the ONLY LONG RANGE ESCORT FIGHTERS used in the air war over Europe against Germany. Without the P38, the P51 and the P47, the war could've dragged on for another 5 to 7 years before an invasion would've been possible without even more extensive losses than were suffered. The daylight bombing done by the US bombers, escorted by US fighters, broke the back of the Luftwaffe, and the German ground forces, supply and manufacturing, cottage industries, etc. and allowed the Allies a far easier time on the shores on D-day than might've otherwise been the case. Not to mention keeping Hitler too busy defending against bombers to continue mounting any meaningful bomber missions of his own over England again.

Remember: US bombers, US escort deep into Germany.

Keep in mind that the US didn't do it alone, but they did play a HUGE part in the defeat of the Luftwaffe, significantly greater than probably any other country.



What i actually recall from my History lessons were that the Americans were reluctant to join the war and it took many attempts to get you into the war. Only when ur only ass is being attacked u help the war effort. Not for the ****ing other 4-5 years before hand or watever. Pardon me for interrupting your tirade, but I wanted to remind you that Germany didn't attack Pearl Harbor....just thought you'd want to know that, friend.

And yes, the US was reluctant to join the war at the time. Remember, WWI wasn't that long over at the time, and it was mainly the reluctance or failure of Britian and Europe to enforce the treaty of Versailles that allowed Germany to rebuild it's military strength.

Just so you know, Churchill was ecstatic when Pearl Harbor was bombed, because he knew that with the help and resources of the US, the war would be won.

And another thing: It wasn't "4 or 5 years beforehand or whatever". There were "Eagle Squadrons" fighting for England long before the japanese attacked Pearl. American pilots flying your Spitfires and Hurricanes on bomber intercept missions over your shores and cities to help keep the Germans off your beaches because they thought it was the right thing to do. And war between Britain (and France) and Germany was declared on 3 Sept, 1939, and the "Battle of Britain", entirely an air war, and fought with a number of American pilots, started in July of '40, and the US declared war on Japan and Germany after the bombing of Pearl, 12/7/41. By the math I learned in school, that doesn't = " 4 or 5 years or whatever".


Every1 knows how dilluded the Americans are anyway. Across the world people realise that the Americans live a seperate life from the rest of the world and are unwiling to co-operatye in a number of issues which would benefit the world as a whole. So u carry on saying your stuff about the Americans won the war with 9000 men and ill continue to prove you wrong. Way to go, buddy....you've just managed to insult 300,000,000 people, including every race and religion on the planet. Tomorrow, you should try for an even billion.




P.S.
You know, it's not that you aren't grateful for any help given from other countries to defend Britain and recapture Europe that bugs me....there were so many soldiers involved from so many countries that giving credit to anything but "WWII Veterans" world-wide is absurd....what does piss me off, is the ****ing revisionist history people like to spout off, like the above comment..."with i must add little help from the Americans"....that really chapps my ass. Read a ****ing book, find out what really happened before running your mouth on a subject as important to the history of the world as WWII. This was the biggest conflict the world has ever seen, and probably the biggest it ever will see (anything bigger today would most likely result in total destruction of the planet), and you don't know a goddamned thing about it. How sad is that?




P.P.S

I appologize for getting a bit unhinged about this particular topic.