Of all the great heavyweights of the last 100 years, which two do you think would have the greatest fight and who would win it

Of all the great heavyweights of the last 100 years, which two do you think would have the greatest fight and who would win it
Mohammed Ali VS Prime Mike Tyson, this fight is soooo interesting, it wouldnt be like Ali/Forman cuz Tyson could actually box back then.

I got a better One

ALI Vs. Holyfield


BAsically ALI Vs. Anyone

I got a better One

ALI Vs. Holyfield


BAsically ALI Vs. Anyone
yes i agree, vs anyone good, or Marciano vs anyone good.

I always thought a bout between Joe Frazier and Evander Holyfield would have been mesmerizingly brutal.

You cant really go wrong with there styles.

Maybe Holyfield and Marciano also , even though i believe Marciano would drop him

I say the greatest match of all time would be Rocky Marciano VS Jack "The Manassa Mauler" Dempsey

I agree...Ali vs. almost everyone who's also great.

Prime:

Ali vs. Jack Dempsey
Ali vs. Joe Louis
Ali vs. Marciano
Ali vs. Tyson

Marciano vs. Tyson
Marciano vs. Foreman

wooooosh I'd give my right arm to see those :eek:

For me...hehe...the most appealing fight would be:

A 1998, bulked-up-to-190-lbs-version of Roy Jones Jr. vs a 205 lbs, 1967 version of Muhammad Ali.

Marciano vs. Tyson
Marciano vs. Foreman

wooooosh I'd give my right arm to see those :eek:

Marciano wouldn't make it 4 rounds with those beast

I don't think it could get anybetter than Ron Lyle vs. Foreman.
But Holyfield vs. Anyone would be a great fight

Prime Larry Holmes vs. prime Muhammad Ali if you want to watch a masterful boxing match and the sweet science at its greatest.

Prime Evander Holyfield vs. prime Joe Frazier if you want to see the most amazingly brutal, heart driven slugfest of all time.

Dempsey wasn't all that good. He beat ****ing Jess Willard, refused to fight blacks, lost to Gene Tunney. Marciano would've lost to Tyson, Ali, and Foreman I think...though he sort of has a win against Ali, lol.

Prime Tyson vs Prime Tua. Tua's chin jest brings curiosity in a match like this. Shiznite, would Tyson be able to handle Tua aswell? Keep em spinnin!

Dempsey wasn't all that good. He beat ****ing Jess Willard, refused to fight blacks, lost to Gene Tunney.

Dempsey refused to fight blacks, did he?

That's a pretty strong statement considering Dempsey actually signed a deal to defend his title against Harry Wills, which was to take on July 4th, 1925.

Ask Tex Rickard why he squashed that fight and he'd probably tell you that he wanted to avoid another incident of the magnitude of the month long riots that took place after the Johnson/Jeffries fight.

Sign of the times, man. Dempsey had nothing against black fighters, and in fact he employed a number of them in his training camps at various times (Bill Tate, George Godfrey, Larry Gains...to name a few).

id also like to see the Roy Jones that fought Ruiz VS any Mike Tyson,, I think Roy that nigth could of beat 2days Tyson but would have been KOed by a prime Tyson.

I don't care if Super duper prime Jones fought super washed up Mike Tyson, Tyson would knock Jones the **** out, period. If Tarver and ****ing Coffee did it, Tyson would MURDER Jones with the first punch he landed, and he'd land at least one punch during the course of a fight. 12 rounds is too long to dodge EVERYTHING.

Was Henry Wills' hands going to be cuffed behind his back? j/k but for real, okay Dempsey was signed...so whats your point? The fight didn't come off. There were more than Wills to fight then. Jack Johnson was still fighting.

Some match ups i would like to see are:
Smokin' Joe vs Tyson
Ali vs Tyson
RJJ vs Tyson

Was Henry Wills' hands going to be cuffed behind his back? j/k but for real, okay Dempsey was signed...so whats your point? The fight didn't come off. There were more than Wills to fight then. Jack Johnson was still fighting.

My point is that it is not Dempsey's fault that he never defended his title against a black heavyweight. Like I said, it was a sign of the times. Tex Rickard was the most prominent promoter in the sport at that time, and after the Johnson/Jeffries fiasco, he made a vow to never again promote a heavyweight championship fight between a black man and a white man (although he did make a less than half hearted effort to find a venue for that Dempsey/Wills fight, but nobody really wanted it).

You are familiar with the madness that took place after that Johnson/Jeffries fight, aren't you? Well, the Dempsey era began less than ten years after the outrage that took place immediately after the Johnson/Jeffries fight, when there was month long riots taking place all over the deep south (a huge number of people died because of it). That incident was still very fresh in people's minds when Dempsey arrived, so...Nobody wanted riots like that happening again.

More than Wills? Yeah, maybe Kid Norfolk deserved a shot at that time. But Johnson was in his 40's by that time, and was considered to be washed up when he fought Willard in 1915 (regardless of his career stage, there was NO WAY the boxing establishment was going to allow Johnson within even sniffing distance of a title shot). Sam Langford was approaching 40 and had pretty much gone blind by that point. Sam McVey was winding down his career, and wasn't really in the title picture when Dempsey first began his reign...Unless I'm forgetting somebody, that left Wills and Norfolk as probably the only two black heavyweights that were all that deserving. Dempsey signed to fight one of them, because that's the fight the boxing public wanted to see (Wills recieved a very nice bonus of $50,000 upon signing the contract to fight Dempsey). But society as a whole didn't really want that fight to take place out of fear of what may happen after the fact.

It was all the politics of the time, man, and had nothing to do with Dempsey refusing to fight a black man.

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i think fraizer Tyson would end just like marvis Fraizer/Tyson ended.

i think fraizer Tyson would end just like marvis Fraizer/Tyson ended.

dont think so, joe was way better than marvis.

but than again i could mike is a bad matchupp for joe, tyson got the style to take joe.

ike ibeabuchi vs. evander holyfield - battle of wisdom and strategy
mike tyson vs. rocky marciano - battle of power
ali vs. lewis - battle of greatness
frazier vs. tua- battle of will's and determination
young foreman vs. young tyson- battle of insanely explosive power

dont think so, joe was way better than marvis.

but than again i could mike is a bad matchupp for joe, tyson got the style to take joe.

Tyson doesn't like guys fighting back. If Frazier lands that left hook first, good night Mike. Definitely would be exciting. Heart and determination could be the difference in Joe's favor.

hw promoter fights:
don king vs. murad muhammad

ike ibeabuchi vs. evander holyfield - battle of wisdom and strategy
mike tyson vs. rocky marciano - battle of power
ali vs. lewis - battle of greatness
frazier vs. tua- battle of will's and determination
young foreman vs. young tyson- battle of insanely explosive power

lennox lewis was not great, ali would own him

How come everyone is stuck in the HW? Fantasies don't go beyond that?

How about Prime:
Sugar Ray Robinson Vs. Roy Jones Jr.?
Marvin Hagler Vs. Bernard Hopkins?
Sugar Ray Leonard Vs. Oscar De La Hoya?
Meldrick Taylor Vs. Floyd Mayweather Jr?
Roberto Duran Vs. Kostya Tszyu?

What do you think of the outcome? :rolleyes:

EDIT:
OOPS I didn't read the title of the thread accurately "greatest heavyweight fight of all time"
Sorry

Tyson doesn't like guys fighting back. If Frazier lands that left hook first, good night Mike. Definitely would be exciting. Heart and determination could be the difference in Joe's favor.

it actually depends a lot on the ref if tyson knocks him down like 5-6 times it would be stopped today, but if they fought like 30 years ago ore even longer back they would have let joe continue after beeing knocked down over and over again and after 3 rounds ore more tyson would tire and joe turn the fight and knock mike out in 8th ore later.

yeah if anything would make joe win this fight it would be his heart, chin and stamina.

Would have to be Ali vs Marciano for me.