View Full Version : James Toney Vs. Vitali Klitchko can happen in SEPT.


Zab Super Judah
06-02-2005, 09:51 PM
vitali is looking for a match and have come to toney's promoter offering a 35 to 65 split..toney wants a 50 to 50 split..so looks like the only thing holding up the fight is the contract...read it on **********

xKillingJokex
06-02-2005, 09:53 PM
Down goes Toney!

Memorex
06-02-2005, 09:53 PM
vitali is looking for a match and have come to toney's promoter offering a 35 to 65 split..toney wants a 50 to 50 split..so looks like the only thing holding up the fight is the contract...read it on **********
ISNT VITALI GONNA FIGHT RAHMAN IN SEPT? OR IS THAT FIGHT OFF

Zab Super Judah
06-02-2005, 09:55 PM
remember rahman has to fight barret? vitali isnt going to wait around while waiting for the winner of that fight

borikua
06-02-2005, 09:56 PM
Toney...50/50?..lol..

Exciterx24
06-02-2005, 09:57 PM
Vitali would administer Toney a consistent, systematic beating similar to the one that he gave to Danny Williams. Klitschko's physical advantages are too much for Toney.

V. Klitschko by TKO.

Memorex
06-02-2005, 09:58 PM
Toney...50/50?..lol..
HOW THE HELL DOES TONEY WANT A 50/50 SPLIT . TONEY REALLY IS CRAZY

xKillingJokex
06-02-2005, 10:02 PM
I really think Toney should be glad Vitali is looking at him as a potential opponent. Vitali doesn need to fight Toney..he could of waited for Rahman or whomever. Toney should take the 35/65 ..cuz thats the best split he deserves right now

josenoway
06-02-2005, 10:54 PM
Heh, he wants 50/50 after he just lost his belt to a failed steroids test, he's got nothing to lose and everything to gain, even with a 35/65 split. Vitali wins either way in my book, too much of a mismatch physically.

jack_the_rippuh
06-02-2005, 11:02 PM
I'll bet all my earnings I'm going to gain on the Gatti and Tyson fight that Toney will beat Vitali and possibly stop him.

PBDS
06-02-2005, 11:04 PM
....Yeah, Toney must be on crack in adition to the juice to want that split. You know he and Goosen are laughing at the stupid **** they say behind the scenes. Vitali will dismantle Toney in short order. That's gonna be Toney's big payday and his adios to boxing if it happens.

jack_the_rippuh
06-02-2005, 11:09 PM
First question, where would the fight be held?

Second question, since when was Vitali Klitschko such a big draw, and why is it so crazy to you guys that Toney asked for a 50/50, it's not like he's fighting Mike Tyson or some ****.

NOFX
06-02-2005, 11:15 PM
I thought Vitali wanted Brewster. What happened with that?
I would rather see Vitali/Toney more than Vitali/Brewster.
VK would murder Toney

!! Mr. Soprano
06-02-2005, 11:31 PM
I think Vitaly has been criticized a lot lately for being inactive, so he is just trying to land a big fight for himself. Brewster, Toney.. don't matter.

Brewster chickened out saying VitKo has to fight winner of Rahman/Barrett. Toney is now making ridiculous excuses that he wants 50/50 purse. Even if that happens, they (Toney's camp) will try to force on a venue, gloves and any other possible excuse to avoid the fight from happening. Wasn't Toney screaming for Klitchkos? "I'll fight them anytime, anywhere, for FREE" What happened to that?
All of a sudden 35% is not good enough for him?

Like I said.. Phony runs his mouth too much!

jack_the_rippuh
06-02-2005, 11:34 PM
I think Vitaly has been criticized a lot lately for being inactive, so he is just trying to land a big fight for himself. Brewster, Toney.. don't matter.

Brewster chickened out saying VitKo has to fight winner of Rahman/Barrett. Toney is now making ridiculous excuses that he wants 50/50 purse. Even if that happens, them (Phony's camp) will try to force on a venue, gloves and any other possible excuse to avoid the fight from happening. Wasn't Toney screaming for Klitchkos? "I'll fight them anytime, anywhere, for FREE" What happened to that?
All of a sudden 35% is not good enough for him?

Like I said.. Phony runs his mouth too much!

Yeah, man, but that's just fight hype stuff.
I know you didn't take that literally, did you? :confused:

My question is, why does Vitali deserve more?


"If I do see him, after he beat Danny Williams....****, ya'll may as well call police on me."
-James Toney on Vitali Klitschko

PBDS
06-02-2005, 11:37 PM
First question, where would the fight be held?

Second question, since when was Vitali Klitschko such a big draw, and why is it so crazy to you guys that Toney asked for a 50/50, it's not like he's fighting Mike Tyson or some ****.

...Vitali is the recognized heavyweight champion of the world by most but the haters and half ****. Only knumbnuts really believe that Toney is a legitimate heavy. I will bet real money on anyone stupid enough to back their bull**** on a Toney/Vit fight. Jack, you know Vitali is the better man in a matchup but you will never admit it. IN a points bet we cna put both of our respective wads on the line. Vitali is "the man" in the heavyweight division and the rest are a joke. He should call the shots as he sees fit. The only thing Rahman, Toney, and Brewster are getting in line for is to see who gets knocked out first. Vitali has "never" been behind on any scorecard after the third round of any fight, never been knocked down, never taken a standing eight count, and has only lost two fights(that he was winning on all the cards and got stopped because of injuries). He has never been dominated by anyone in stretches, unlike the former champs have all been(even in fights they eventually won). Anyone who continues to bash Vitali is either a person who just hates "real white guys", or is a Klit fan hater. Your all full of **** regardless of what you say and you can all suck my dick. :)

jack_the_rippuh
06-02-2005, 11:44 PM
Yeah, but Vitali is still considered young.
I'm sure there are other heavy's in history, who at this point in thier career beat nothing but bums, and never touched the canvas.

PBDS
06-02-2005, 11:47 PM
Yeah, but Vitali is still considered young.
I'm sure there are other heavy's in history, who at this point in thier career beat nothing but bums, and never touched the canvas.


...I seriously doubt that, and he has been in with assasins and legit heavies and never been hurt enough to even take a knee. Think about that the next time you start bashing him. 33 isn't exactly young BTW

joeboxer
06-03-2005, 12:12 AM
[QUOTE=pbds]....Yeah, Toney must be on crack in adition to the juice to want that split. You know he and Goosen are laughing at the stupid **** they say behind the scenes.

I love james Toney but I completly agree with this.

I think James is a comedian the only problem is with people who take him too serious.

Seriously people just sit back and enjoy the circus. Same with Tyson.

S0UTHPAW
06-03-2005, 01:22 AM
Not that Toney deserves 50/50, but VK should just take the fight if he finds a way of not getting stripped. The fight will bring in alot of cash for todays standards so even 50% is not bad. On paper VK should win with out too much trouble, it will keep him solidly in ring mag #1 spot, and the fight fans would love to see it. If he is not a draw now, beating down Toney will make him one.

Vk should take this offer and run with it, keep it public so everyone will see Toney punk out if it goes to that. No more excuses Vitali, get in the damn ring, put on a show, and help out YOUR era, your division, and possible your legacy.

Bozo_no no
06-03-2005, 03:34 AM
Toney is a former Ring Magazine Cruiserweight champ, is a pound for pound fighter, and in his last 3 fights has beat Holyfield, Booker and Ruiz.

Vitali holds a WBC title that would not be on the line, and his last 3 fights were agaisnt Johnson, Sanders and Williams.

There is nothing saying he deserves the bigger purse.

Vitali has never sold more than 125K PPV buys. Toney sold 150K fighting Holyfield.

There's no reason this fight shouldn't be split at 50/50.

The only one running his mouth here is Vitali. He hasn't fought since December where he origionally planned to fight a 'tune up' before he was to fight Rahman, then planned to fight Rahman, and has now called out two different Heavyweights in one week.

This is nothing but talk, and an ********** playing up a rumor.

Bozo_no no
06-03-2005, 03:45 AM
...Vitali is the recognized heavyweight champion of the world by most but the haters and half ****. Only knumbnuts really believe that Toney is a legitimate heavy. I will bet real money on anyone stupid enough to back their bull**** on a Toney/Vit fight. Jack, you know Vitali is the better man in a matchup but you will never admit it. IN a points bet we cna put both of our respective wads on the line. Vitali is "the man" in the heavyweight division and the rest are a joke. He should call the shots as he sees fit. The only thing Rahman, Toney, and Brewster are getting in line for is to see who gets knocked out first. Vitali has "never" been behind on any scorecard after the third round of any fight, never been knocked down, never taken a standing eight count, and has only lost two fights(that he was winning on all the cards and got stopped because of injuries). He has never been dominated by anyone in stretches, unlike the former champs have all been(even in fights they eventually won). Anyone who continues to bash Vitali is either a person who just hates "real white guys", or is a Klit fan hater. Your all full of **** regardless of what you say and you can all suck my dick. :)


Everytime I see biased contrived bull **** like this, I will point it out.

You acuse people of 'hating', but what you're doing going overboard on the other end of the spectrum.

That is an entirly biased, fanatical view of him as a fighter and his career.

- Vitali LOST to Chris Byrd and Lennox Lewis, the two top fighters he's faced

- Aside from those two whom he LOST to, his biggest career wins are agaisnt a 260lb Kirk Johnson, Larry Donald, and Corrie Sanders

- After that, the number of stiffs that make his record so padded are hilighted by names like Danny Williams, Obed Sullivan, Ross Purity, and Orlin Norris

Aside from his two losses, it doesn't say a whole lot with the level of competition he dominated.

And he is a Title Holder in a division where another title holder (who's beat him) has been defending his title for nearly two years longer.

It's sickening to see how much some of you nut huggers try to sugar coat and twist facts to support your fanatical views.

Vitali is a large akward Heavyweight who has still yet to fight many of the other top fighters in this current Heavyweight division, widely regarded as one of the weakest points in history.

James Toney took apart John Ruiz, and that's at the very least on par with any win Vitali's ever had. Don't try and tell me knocking out Orca Johnson or stopping 40 year old Sanders is any better than Toney clearly out pointing Ruiz.

There will be no title on the line.

There's no reason why this fight (should it actually be in the works) shouldn't be an even split.

SUPER ZAB FAN
06-03-2005, 03:55 AM
[QUOTE=Bozo_no_no]Everytime I see biased contrived bull **** like this, I will point it out.

You acuse people of 'hating', but what you're doing going overboard on the other end of the spectrum.

That is an entirly biased, fanatical view of him as a fighter and his career.

- Vitali LOST to Chris Byrd and Lennox Lewis, the two top fighters he's faced

- Aside from those two whom he LOST to, his biggest career wins are agaisnt a 260lb Kirk Johnson, Larry Donald, and Corrie Sanders

- After that, the number of stiffs that make his record so padded are hilighted by names like Danny Williams, Obed Sullivan, Ross Purity, and Orlin Norris

Aside from his two losses, it doesn't say a whole lot with the level of competition he dominated.

And he is a Title Holder in a division where another title holder (who's beat him) has been defending his title for nearly two years longer.

It's sickening to see how much some of you nut huggers try to sugar coat and twist facts to support your fanatical views.

Vitali is a large akward Heavyweight who has still yet to fight many of the other top fighters in this current Heavyweight division, widely regarded as one of the weakest points in history.

James Toney took apart John Ruiz, and that's at the very least on par with any win Vitali's ever had. Don't try and tell me knocking out Orca Johnson or stopping 40 year old Sanders is any better than Toney clearly out pointing Ruiz.

There will be no title on the line.

There's no reason why this fight (should it actually be in the works) shouldn't be an even split.



There shouldnt be any more post about the situation , it has clearly been laid too rest . Thanks Bozo

Bozo_no no
06-03-2005, 04:07 AM
There shouldnt be any more post about the situation , it has clearly been laid too rest . Thanks Bozo



No problem.

I can't believe how there is a faction of these fanatics that take the fact Vitali

- Lost to the only two "A level" fighters he's ever faced
- Has dominated 3 or 4 "B Level" fighters
- Has KO'd a large %of "C Level" fighters

and spins that into some kind of Super All time Heavyweight who's dominated every second of every round he's ever fought including his two incidental losses they say

- He was winning before he lost
- He was unlucky
- He was the 'real winner' despite losing


And then act like this perfect logic they believe in means everyone should just assume (like they do) he'd beat every other top 5 Heavyweight around him (even though he hasn't yet) and that he should get the credit for doing so, because it's safe to 'assume' he would.


To top it off, they have the nerve to insult the people who atempt to critisize him in any way, or differ of opinion and regard Vitali as one of the best current Heavyweights who still has something to prove in a wide open division.
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leff
06-03-2005, 09:07 AM
there is reasons why VK wont fight tony this year, tony doesnt have belt and VK should unify.

after he fights the winner og barret-rahman he will most likely fight brewster.

maybe he will fight tony next year.

and a question bozo

who do you think would win a VK-Byrd rematch?

Leo Pradun
06-03-2005, 10:28 AM
there is reasons why VK wont fight tony this year, tony doesnt have belt and VK should unify.

after he fights the winner og barret-rahman he will most likely fight brewster.

maybe he will fight tony next year.

and a question bozo

who do you think would win a VK-Byrd rematch?
ofcourse vitali would win...

moochi
06-03-2005, 11:25 AM
vitali is looking for a match and have come to toney's promoter offering a 35 to 65 split..toney wants a 50 to 50 split..so looks like the only thing holding up the fight is the contract...read it on **********


This shows how corrupt boxing is........Toney is a cheat, and in any other sport, he'd been either banned for life or banned for 2 years.........

and in a sport where a top boxer only boxes once every 6 months or so, and there are many organizations, he gets banned from 1 (one) (yes only one) for 3 months....which is totally irrelevant as he wouldn't have been boxing within this time anyway.........

what are the real sports fans supposed to say to this!?!?............