View Full Version : Wright vs DLH in Sept???
borikua 06-01-2005, 10:40 PM Opponent May Be Wright for De La Hoya
By Steve Springer, latimes.com
Oscar De La Hoya is exploring the possibility of fighting middleweight Winky Wright this fall — with Bob Arum promoting.
De La Hoya, now a promoter and inactive as a fighter since losing to undisputed middleweight champion Bernard Hopkins in September, had announced plans to return to the ring in the 147-pound division Sept. 17.
Before retiring, De La Hoya, a former champion in six weight divisions, had also hoped to lure Felix Trinidad, who beat him in 1999, into a rematch. But when Trinidad was defeated last month by Wright, De La Hoya's thinking shifted. It was Wright's debut at middleweight after reigning as the undisputed 154-pound champion.
Whatever De La Hoya's plans, it seemed safe to assume Arum was not part of them. They had an ugly parting when Hopkins signed with De La Hoya's Golden Boy Promotions after beating De La Hoya on a ninth-round knockout. Arum had been operating under the assumption that he would be promoting Hopkins.
When he signed Hopkins, De La Hoya announced that Arum would no longer be his promoter.
Arum responded with a verbal attack against De La Hoya, publicly questioning whether De La Hoya had given up against Hopkins.
But Arum has subsequently learned through Richard Schaefer, head of De La Hoya's promotional company, that his last contract with De La Hoya included an option for one additional fight.
"I had forgotten," Arum conceded.
Once a De La Hoya fight is set, Arum can bid on it. If Golden Boy comes back with a higher offer, Arum can match it. But he has only one option, and if he passes on De La Hoya's next fight, there might not be another.
"Let's give it some air," said Arum of a Wright-De La Hoya match. "I would have to decide if it would be economically feasible to go after such a fight. But right now, it's a little premature."
Whenever De La Hoya fights again, Staples Center has the right to make the first bid to be the site.
SUPER ZAB FAN 06-01-2005, 10:43 PM IT is about time , DLH Dodged Winky for a long time
Bad Intentions 06-01-2005, 10:44 PM Winky by UD 120-107 or so.. on all 3 cards.
!! Mr. Soprano 06-01-2005, 10:44 PM DLH should not fight Wright.. Bad move..
He avoided him then and should do the same now..
jack_the_rippuh 06-01-2005, 10:47 PM Everytime you're a great fighter people always talk about someone you avoided.
People, just stfu.
Once De La Hoya fights Wright, win or lose, I hope it silences all the critics.
jack_the_rippuh 06-01-2005, 10:49 PM Winky by UD 120-107 or so.. on all 3 cards.
I don't see the fight going that way, but I got a question. How does De La Hoya lose one point? I mean, he doesn't low blow.
SUPER ZAB FAN 06-01-2005, 10:52 PM Good Point Rip ,De La Hoya would never lose a point on all of the judges scorecards . I mean the man was known to Coast the 2nd half of fights because he thought the judges would go his way
MrUnstoppable 06-01-2005, 10:55 PM I know DLH can bank 20 mil anytime he steps in the ring but I'm not so sure this is the best idea. Especially if it takes place at middleweight. I'd give him a chance against Wright at jr middle but he has shown he is ineffective at middle. The best idea would be to move down to welter and take on judah or spinks where he is more natural. Even a Mayorga or Vargas match would be a better career move. Don't get me wrong...I'd love to see it. I am just of the opinion that Wright would beat Hopkins at this point and we saw what Hopkins did to De La Hoya.
borikua 06-01-2005, 11:04 PM I know DLH can bank 20 mil anytime he steps in the ring but I'm not so sure this is the best idea. Especially if it takes place at middleweight. I'd give him a chance against Wright at jr middle but he has shown he is ineffective at middle. The best idea would be to move down to welter and take on judah or spinks where he is more natural. Even a Mayorga or Vargas match would be a better career move. Don't get me wrong...I'd love to see it. I am just of the opinion that Wright would beat Hopkins at this point and we saw what Hopkins did to De La Hoya.
Good post, but I think that DLH won't be able to make 147, he already said that he will fight at 150?...Winky can make 154 easy and at fight time be around 160+ he would beat DLH like he did Mosley and Tito...
Pullcounter 06-02-2005, 12:43 AM DLH won't be able to beat Winky, he barely beat Sturm and Sturm is a poor man's Winky.
SUPER ZAB FAN 06-02-2005, 12:46 AM DE La Hoya Didnt beat sturm at all , that decision was mostly politics . There was more money in DLH Vs. B-Hop
then Sturm Vs. B-Hop
`STEELHEAD 06-02-2005, 01:16 AM most recently oscars walking around at 180 and sporting a double chin. oscars one of the smartest boxers but he looked out of shape against hopkins and looked to me that he took the easy way out.
he's going to have to be on top of his game. he's not going to be able to out fox winky.
i don't know why he don't go down and fight an easy judah fight. he'd have all thos belt and then could retire on top and then concentrate on the business side.
SUPER ZAB FAN 06-02-2005, 01:22 AM Because he is fat and could never make 147 pounds ,
Also because Judah would kill him .
Easy decision if you ask me
xrhythmxnxbluesx 06-02-2005, 01:23 AM de la hoya should juss stick with his original plan... and go down to welter... and he should fight zab...
`STEELHEAD 06-02-2005, 01:52 AM Because he is fat and could never make 147 pounds ,
Also because Judah would kill him .
Easy decision if you ask me
judah's a little guy next to oscar. his speed isnt going to be able to make up for his 68"reach but speed could help his fiberglass jaw dance away from blows. judahs power at 147 isnt proven. and out of shape oscar beats the new and improved zab.
Zab Super Judah 06-02-2005, 01:55 AM DLH should not fight Wright.. Bad move..
He avoided him then and should do the same now..
well its a bad and good move i guess..if he wins he leapfrogs a bunch of people in the p4p list..he needs to move ALOT and move in and out and not give winky a chance to jab
Riptor 06-02-2005, 02:02 AM Oscar de La Hoya would loose to Winky Wright he doesnt posses what he would need to beat Wright. I think that it would be a nice fight to see but Oscar should try to go out on a win.
SUPER ZAB FAN 06-02-2005, 02:05 AM Thats a negative Steelhead , His reach is actually 72". DLH has gotten his ass kicked his last two fights , he has also grown a nice belly and another chin . Do you actually think a old and Fat DLH Could beat a young in his prime Zab ? NEgative
oldgringo 06-02-2005, 02:08 AM If DLH beat Winky that would make Tito and Shane look baaaaaaaad....
`STEELHEAD 06-02-2005, 02:36 AM Thats a negative Steelhead , His reach is actually 72". DLH has gotten his ass kicked his last two fights , he has also grown a nice belly and another chin . Do you actually think a old and Fat DLH Could beat a young in his prime Zab ? NEgative
sorry. got him mixed up with tszyu. say if zab /oscar happens will oscar get the belts if he wins? will it be sanctioned.
zab better hightail it back down to 140 after this one.
SUPER ZAB FAN 06-02-2005, 02:43 AM Thts one thing , that Zab lacks , and that is height .
HE has decent reach at 72" but i would like to see him about 3 -4 inches taller , but that will never happen . He is the shorter fighter in most of his fights but he usually doesnt run into alot of problems with the height advantage
Bad Intentions 06-02-2005, 02:45 AM I don't see the fight going that way, but I got a question. How does De La Hoya lose one point? I mean, he doesn't low blow.
lol i dont kno , that was one of the scores from the Tito fight, U never kno winky might drop him with a body shot
ottoevans 06-02-2005, 05:25 AM I think this would be a great fight for Oscar if he really is focused, but i mean focused 110% with no distractions at all. Winky is not invinciple he just looked like that cause he faced the dumbest and worst boxer (Boxing not slugging) of all Time in Tito. Fernando Vargas beat Winky because all he did is counter Winky he let Winky come to him for a better part of the fight, Oscar is a better boxer than Vargas. Also this would be a safer fight for Oscar in the sence that he wont get KO cause Winky cant break toilet paper.
But this fight would go good for Oscar if he dedicates his whole life to it. But if hes going to half ass it he should just got fight Zab where he can just rely on his power to KO mr.GlassJaw Judah
Truth 06-02-2005, 10:12 AM Winky Wright would dominate De La Hoya in my opinion...
Texasboy34 06-02-2005, 11:51 AM DLH won't be able to beat Winky, he barely beat Sturm and Sturm is a poor man's Winky.
You mean he got a gift against the "poor man's Winky." No way in hell did Sturm actually lose that fight. Even a blind man could see they gave that fight to DLH so he could get his fight (beatdown) with old man Hopkins. :boxing:
Renegade 06-02-2005, 01:58 PM Although I'd love to see Zab/DLH I don't think Oscar will ever make 147 again. Therefore, the main questions for become will DLH/Winky happen at 160 or 154? At 160, it's a bad move for DLH, at 154 it becomes more interesting. If it's at 154, are Winky's belts on the line? I don't remember reading that he was stripped for fighting Tito, but I may have missed something.
MetalVomit 06-02-2005, 02:11 PM You mean he got a gift against the "poor man's Winky." No way in hell did Sturm actually lose that fight. Even a blind man could see they gave that fight to DLH so he could get his fight (beatdown) with old man Hopkins. :boxing:
the reason it was close enough for the judges to give it to DLH is that Sturm wasnt doing more than jabbing, he should have mixed some combinations or power shots. His jab is nasty though.
Texasboy34 06-02-2005, 04:23 PM the reason it was close enough for the judges to give it to DLH is that Sturm wasnt doing more than jabbing, he should have mixed some combinations or power shots. His jab is nasty though.
Why change it up when the jab was all he needed? Ask Tito about that! All DLH did was look chubby, and flurry at the end of each round to try, and steal it. He was just shoe shining... nothing was really landing all that clean. Sturm's jab was snapping his head back, and he almost knocked him down with a JAB! I personally think DLH is done as a fighter.. maybe the weight loss will help, but I think he is done.
Memorex 06-02-2005, 09:33 PM Winky Wright would dominate De La Hoya in my opinion...
WHY WOULD U THINK THAT? DLH IS NOT SOME ROBOTIC KNUCKLEHEAD LIKE TITO. DLH WOULD PROBABLY NOT WIN BUT HE WOULDNT GET DOMINATED. DLH DOES HAVE A CHANCE AGAINST WINKY. WINKY IS NOT UNBEATABLE , I MEAN HE GOT BEAT BY VARGAS( I HAD WINKY WINNING THE FIGHT) ALL IM SAYING THAT DONT COUNT OUT DLH LIKE HES SOME CHUMP :D
Truth 06-02-2005, 09:37 PM WHY WOULD U THINK THAT? DLH IS NOT SOME ROBOTIC KNUCKLEHEAD LIKE TITO. DLH WOULD PROBABLY NOT WIN BUT HE WOULDNT GET DOMINATED. DLH DOES HAVE A CHANCE AGAINST WINKY. WINKY IS NOT UNBEATABLE , I MEAN HE GOT BEAT BY VARGAS( I HAD WINKY WINNING THE FIGHT) ALL IM SAYING THAT DONT COUNT OUT DLH LIKE HES SOME CHUMP :D
Your right dominated is probably going to far.
xKillingJokex 06-02-2005, 09:39 PM Oscar has a chance against Winky, but its very slim. Personally Oscar needs to prove again that hes a top notch boxer.
borikua 06-02-2005, 09:41 PM WHY WOULD U THINK THAT? DLH IS NOT SOME ROBOTIC KNUCKLEHEAD LIKE TITO. DLH WOULD PROBABLY NOT WIN BUT HE WOULDNT GET DOMINATED. DLH DOES HAVE A CHANCE AGAINST WINKY. WINKY IS NOT UNBEATABLE , I MEAN HE GOT BEAT BY VARGAS( I HAD WINKY WINNING THE FIGHT) ALL IM SAYING THAT DONT COUNT OUT DLH LIKE HES SOME CHUMP :D
Good point, but against Vargas he took more chances and trade with him, against Mosley and Tito he used his defense and jab to win the fight...IMO he would be too big for DLH and if he can win with just his jab he will do it cuz he doesn't want to win fans just fights..
Memorex 06-02-2005, 09:46 PM Good point, but against Vargas he took more chances and trade with him, against Mosley and Tito he used his defense and jab to win the fight...IMO he would be too big for DLH and if he can win with just his jab he will do it cuz he doesn't want to win fans just fights..
YEA THATS TRUE IN THAT FERNANDO FIGHT ,WINKY DID TRADE WITH HIM BUT THATS CUZ THE YOUNG ENERGETIC VARGAS WAS TAKING IT TO WINKY AND NEVER STOPPED. PROBABLY WINKY'S MOST EXCITING FIGHT
borikua 06-02-2005, 09:53 PM The best move for DLH would be to fight Zab if he can make the weight, or convice Tito to fight him at 156-160...Hell they could make a two fight deal one in PR and one in LA and they would sell out both events and make a few mills...
The best move for DLH would be to fight Zab if he can make the weight, or convice Tito to fight him at 156-160...Hell they could make a two fight deal one in PR and one in LA and they would sell out both events and make a few mills...
One in PR and one in LA...I like it, how about we make it a 24 round fight with a 3 month halftime show...the fight could end in any round via a knockdown but if it went 12 they would just add those scores to the next fight...I like Oscar 20 rounds Tito 4 rounds (Tito lands a combined 11 punches in those four winning rounds and Oscar runs over 4 miles)
Lucky466 06-03-2005, 12:24 AM Oscar will lose the fight. But he wont be dominated like Tito or Shane were. When was the last time Oscar was ever dominated? Oscar has not yet been dominated all of his loses were close. Except Hopkins who KO'd him but even in that fight it was pretty close till Hopkins closed the show. Oscar has too many dimensions to be dominated but Winky will still beat him in a much closer fight than the Mosley or the Tito fight.
onetwopunch 06-04-2005, 01:19 AM IT is about time , DLH Dodged Winky for a long time
I think DLH would beat Winky UD. DLH is quick enough and smart as hell he will win by UD.
hectari 06-04-2005, 01:41 AM First off if dela hoya couldnt hurt sturm who fights alot like winky then how is he gonna fair against winky? I believe they will fight at 154 probally de la hoya has the leverage here and I do not think winky will negotiate against oscar since oscar is the cash cow.
This is a really bad bad fight for de la hoya the best move for oscar is to go down to 147 and fight zab. I also think oscar has a shot to knockout sugar shane mosley at 147 since shane is really really looking bad in his last fights.
Oscar looks like 185 pounds right now.
onetwopunch 06-04-2005, 04:26 AM First off if dela hoya couldnt hurt sturm who fights alot like winky then how is he gonna fair against winky? I believe they will fight at 154 probally de la hoya has the leverage here and I do not think winky will negotiate against oscar since oscar is the cash cow.
This is a really bad bad fight for de la hoya the best move for oscar is to go down to 147 and fight zab. I also think oscar has a shot to knockout sugar shane mosley at 147 since shane is really really looking bad in his last fights.
Oscar looks like 185 pounds right now.
Oscar had a bad night he fought Sturm at 160lbs not 154lbs. He is quicker than Winky and smarter. I think he can win a decesion over Winky. He would destroy Zab, he is to big for Zab.
.::|ULTIMATE|::. 06-04-2005, 04:31 AM that would be perfect meanwhile zab can fight Margarito winner gets DLH at 147 when he gets off the dohnuts.
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