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Spartan Chino 03-29-2010, 03:18 PM hi i bought this at gnc and thought it was just a multivitamin but after i bought it (and lost the receipt) i found it featured a creatine precursor blend that supports the body's natural production of creatine. I dont want to gain any weight from this so should i take this back or buy a regular multivitamin?
Skuzzles 03-29-2010, 05:45 PM I don't think you should be too worried. I take these and I haven't seen any weight gain. They smell sort of like chocolate though.
elfag 03-29-2010, 05:59 PM I dont think its anything to be worried about. But I also dont think its likely to be much better than the cheapest of multivitamins so I wouldnt pay extra for it either.
GroundSt.Pound 03-29-2010, 08:09 PM The Creatine blend if remember correctly is only 150mg.
To gain weight from creatine you'd need to be taking at least 5 grams.
Plus creatine is just a combination of two amino acids. It's not going to do anything. Don't worry about it.
Plus you can return products to GNC without a receipt as long as it's GNC brand, so if you are that worried about it, then return it.
But really, you have nothing to worry about.
Spartan Chino 03-29-2010, 08:35 PM Thanks guys i was actually pretty worried anyone else with thoughts??
GroundSt.Pound 03-29-2010, 09:17 PM Thanks guys i was actually pretty worried anyone else with thoughts??
If you are looking for a better multi. I'd check these out
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/nw/al.html
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/clabs/orangetriad.html
The Mega Mens Sport isn't a bad multi-vitamin, you get what you pay for.
But there is better stuff out there.
Again though, like I said, you have nothing to worry about with a 150mg creatine blend. You won't gain an ounce of weight from a multivitamin. All that creatine blend does is keep your body's natural levels of creatine stable. Nothing more.
Spartacus Sully 03-29-2010, 09:23 PM it might assist with recovery but your not going to gain mass because of it.
GroundSt.Pound 03-29-2010, 09:26 PM it might assist with recovery but your not going to gain mass because of it.
It's even enough to have an impact on recovery.
A normal dose of creatine is 5 grams or 5000mg.
1 dose of Mega Mens Sport is 150mg. You'd have to take half the bottle for any kind of effect like recovery or weight gain.
And if you did that you'd probably die from excessive consumption of a vitamin before you gained any weight. LOL
Spartan Chino 03-29-2010, 09:31 PM is there any other good multivitamins in gnc that are better
GroundSt.Pound 03-29-2010, 09:33 PM is there any other good multivitamins in gnc that are better
At GNC, probably not. I'd find a Vitamin Shoppe they have a better selection overall than GNC and their prices are a lot lower.
Spartan Chino 03-29-2010, 09:37 PM Cool i should check that out so this little creatine thing wont make me slower??? today i felt mad slow but then it went away after a while
GroundSt.Pound 03-29-2010, 09:40 PM Cool i should check that out so this little creatine thing wont make me slower??? today i felt mad slow but then it went away after a while
It's all in your head, man. Just relax. If it's bugging you that much just return it and find a better one.
Spartan Chino 03-29-2010, 09:41 PM alright thanx
DempseyMarciano 03-30-2010, 03:59 AM I find that OPTI MEN from ON, are good. Whatever you do, try and stay away from UNIVERSAL'S Animal Pak. You have to down 11 pills at once. I know that GNC's Multi Vitamin pak has several pills, has well. OPTI MEN has only 3 pills to take. One at breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Like with all multi vitamins, make sure you drink plenty of water otherwise, your urine will be neon in color lol.
GroundSt.Pound 03-30-2010, 10:48 AM Like with all multi vitamins, make sure you drink plenty of water otherwise, your urine will be neon in color lol.
Your urine is neon because of the B Vitamins, not because you don't drink enough water.
But I agree, Animal Pak is useless.
Insane Ninja 03-31-2010, 01:51 AM I would say Animal Pak is superior to either ON's or GNC's Mega Men... if you are willing to take that many pills.
It's got a great profile of vits and mins, but it has a lot more than that that could benefit you. If you are looking for a 1 a day or not willing to swallow a whole pack, though, then you do want to avoid Animal Pak, but I don't think there is a more complete multi combo for athletes out there.
Spartacus Sully 03-31-2010, 03:08 AM It's even enough to have an impact on recovery.
A normal dose of creatine is 5 grams or 5000mg.
1 dose of Mega Mens Sport is 150mg. You'd have to take half the bottle for any kind of effect like recovery or weight gain.
And if you did that you'd probably die from excessive consumption of a vitamin before you gained any weight. LOL
while a normal dose could be 5 grams that would be a normal does for some one trying to bulk up as fast as they can. where as ive noticed that for recovery alone barely a sip can cause noticeable differences. while 150 mg may not cause you to notice something immediately the next day it may be the diffrence between working out 3 days in a row then taking a rest or working out 4 days in a row then taking a rest.
Insane Ninja 03-31-2010, 03:25 AM while a normal dose could be 5 grams that would be a normal does for some one trying to bulk up as fast as they can. where as ive noticed that for recovery alone barely a sip can cause noticeable differences. while 150 mg may not cause you to notice something immediately the next day it may be the diffrence between working out 3 days in a row then taking a rest or working out 4 days in a row then taking a rest. Well, first, it should be noted that what's in Mega Men is not creatine. It's a creatine 'precursor', which is to say, it's supposed to increase your own body's production (how well it will actually do that is anyone's guess). So compraing that 150 mg vs. the recommended amount of creatine (as mentioned, roughly 5 g) is like comparing apples to oranges.
However, as for creatine dosages, your body's creatine levels do need to be built up for you to notice reasonable differences in recovery, typically speaking you'd need to take 5 g or so (this all depend on bodyweight, though, so the number is different for everyone) a day for that. So while a single sip may have some 'immediate' recovery effects, the majority of that effect will either come from pre-built up creatine stores or from other ingredients common in those drinks, rather than the creatine itself. (Electrolytes, carbohydrates, that sort of thing).
Spartacus Sully 03-31-2010, 03:44 AM Well, first, it should be noted that what's in Mega Men is not creatine. It's a creatine 'precursor', which is to say, it's supposed to increase your own body's production (how well it will actually do that is anyone's guess). So compraing that 150 mg vs. the recommended amount of creatine (as mentioned, roughly 5 g) is like comparing apples to oranges.
However, as for creatine dosages, your body's creatine levels do need to be built up for you to notice reasonable differences in recovery, typically speaking you'd need to take 5 g or so (this all depend on bodyweight, though, so the number is different for everyone) a day for that. So while a single sip may have some 'immediate' recovery effects, the majority of that effect will either come from pre-built up creatine stores or from other ingredients common in those drinks, rather than the creatine itself. (Electrolytes, carbohydrates, that sort of thing).
i was referring to a sip of liquid creatine stuff that GNC makes that is just creatine and not any other stuff kinda has a sandy syrup texture and i usually only take enough to just barely coat my tounge.
so the 150 mg of creatine precursor could result in more then 150 mg of creatine production.
built up? built up by how much for you to notice a difference in recovery? why does it need to be built up?
Insane Ninja 03-31-2010, 04:17 AM i was referring to a sip of liquid creatine stuff that GNC makes that is just creatine and not any other stuff kinda has a sandy syrup texture and i usually only take enough to just barely coat my tounge.
so the 150 mg of creatine precursor could result in more then 150 mg of creatine production.
built up? built up by how much for you to notice a difference in recovery? why does it need to be built up? If it's the liquid stuff I'm thinking of, you might want to quit buying it. Creatine is not very stable in liquid and becomes creatinine (a useless by product that you pee out) very fast. I know the store I work at (different supp store, not a GNC) sells some liquid stuff, but I've heard it's mostly junk. I'm not sure if the GNC stuff is the same or not, so I can't say for sure, but you'd get better results (for a better price) by buying bulk creatine monohydrate powder and mixing it with some Gatorade powder with 8-16 oz. of water.
As for the 150 mg of precursor, it could theoretically lead to more or less creatine production than 150 mg. I don't think there has been a lot of research on that substance.
As for the building up, the reason why you want that is because of how creatine works. Basically, your body uses a fuel called ATP when it does intense activity. After it's used up, it becomes ADP which isn't as useful for energy. Creatine combines with the ADP to reform ATP, which allows you to work out longer.
In order for this effect to be noticeable, though, the serum level of creatine in your muscle has to be built up so the creatine is right there in the muscle to recombine with the ADP.
Some people/companies say you should do a loading phase of taking up to 20 g of creatine or more a day for 7 days to quickly build up your levels, but it seems taking smaller dosages (3 to 7 g a day) causes your serum levels to increase just about as fast, so that loading phase probably isn't necessary.
Spartacus Sully 03-31-2010, 04:25 AM If it's the liquid stuff I'm thinking of, you might want to quit buying it. Creatine is not very stable in liquid and becomes creatinine (a useless by product that you pee out) very fast. I know the store I work at (different supp store, not a GNC) sells some liquid stuff, but I've heard it's mostly junk. I'm not sure if the GNC stuff is the same or not, so I can't say for sure, but you'd get better results (for a better price) by buying bulk creatine monohydrate powder and mixing it with some Gatorade powder with 8-16 oz. of water.
if it works for me why should i stop using it?
As for the building up, the reason why you want that is because of how creatine works. Basically, your body uses a fuel called ATP when it does intense activity. After it's used up, it becomes ADP which isn't as useful for energy. Creatine combines with the ADP to reform ATP, which allows you to work out longer.
In order for this effect to be noticeable, though, the serum level of creatine in your muscle has to be built up so the creatine is right there in the muscle to recombine with the ADP.
Some people/companies say you should do a loading phase of taking up to 20 g of creatine or more a day for 7 days to quickly build up your levels, but it seems taking smaller dosages (3 to 7 g a day) causes your serum levels to increase just about as fast, so that loading phase probably isn't necessary.
and having more energy to work out longer has what to do with recovery?
Spartacus Sully 03-31-2010, 04:49 AM If it's the liquid stuff I'm thinking of, you might want to quit buying it. Creatine is not very stable in liquid and becomes creatinine (a useless by product that you pee out) very fast. I know the store I work at (different supp store, not a GNC) sells some liquid stuff, but I've heard it's mostly junk. I'm not sure if the GNC stuff is the same or not, so I can't say for sure, but you'd get better results (for a better price) by buying bulk creatine monohydrate powder and mixing it with some Gatorade powder with 8-16 oz. of water.
all creatine will turn into creatinine after about 1.5 hours in your blood stream and you then pee it out. liquid creatine takes a shorter time to get into your blood stream about 20 mins so the benifit of this is that you can take it 20 mins before you exercise and it will be in your blood stream but if you arnt exercising and your creatine stores are full then it will more quickly turn to creatininine where as powdered creatine takes about an hour longer as it takes about an hour longer to get into your blood stream.
as far as building up creatine this is only for people who are trying to bulk up where as for muscular energy creatine( like with atp re-synthysis) can be used by the muscles as soon as it is in the blood stream(20 min after taking it in the case of liquid creatine). if say your muscular saturation of creatine is 5 grams a day and you create 2 grams a day if say you were to take 4 grams of creatine as soon as those 4 grams got to the blood stream 3 of them would be placed in the muscle stores and be usable and the 1 remaining gram would float around for about 1.5 hours and then convert to creatinine and get peed out. if say before those 1.5 hours you exercised and started depleting your creatine stores well then the gram thats floatin around your blood stream would start to be asorbed into your stores at the same rate your depleating them.
In this manner there is no break point and creatine in any amount will help with energy and recovery it is only when you are trying to bulk up that you need a constant supply of creatine so that your muscles are constanly saturated with creatine helping to constanly pull fluid to the muscles increasing their size.
Insane Ninja 03-31-2010, 06:38 AM if it works for me why should i stop using it? If it's working for you, then keep using it.
I'm just giving you friendly advice. I'm familiar with these kinds of products, I've done research on them, and to this point I have not heard or seen of one liquid creatine solution that wasn't complete garbage. All the research so far on it has come out against liquid creatine.
That said, some of the liq. creatine formulas do have other stuff that would be useful for taking before or after a workout.
and having more energy to work out longer has what to do with recovery? Everything. That's how creatine helps with recovery, by restoring muscular energy. That's the major benefit of creatine (in addition to hydrating muscle cells), and if it didn't do that, it would be useless for recovery.
all creatine will turn into creatinine after about 1.5 hours in your blood stream and you then pee it out. liquid creatine takes a shorter time to get into your blood stream about 20 mins so the benifit of this is that you can take it 20 mins before you exercise and it will be in your blood stream but if you arnt exercising and your creatine stores are full then it will more quickly turn to creatininine where as powdered creatine takes about an hour longer as it takes about an hour longer to get into your blood stream. The research on just about all liquid creatine solutions is that they don't work. Whether or not creatine turns into creatinine in the blood stream after 1.5 hours is irrelevant if you what you are taking in in the first place has already been reduced to creatinine, which is useless.
as far as building up creatine this is only for people who are trying to bulk up where as for muscular energy creatine( like with atp re-synthysis) can be used by the muscles as soon as it is in the blood stream(20 min after taking it in the case of liquid creatine). if say your muscular saturation of creatine is 5 grams a day and you create 2 grams a day if say you were to take 4 grams of creatine as soon as those 4 grams got to the blood stream 3 of them would be placed in the muscle stores and be usable and the 1 remaining gram would float around for about 1.5 hours and then convert to creatinine and get peed out. if say before those 1.5 hours you exercised and started depleting your creatine stores well then the gram thats floatin around your blood stream would start to be asorbed into your stores at the same rate your depleating them.
In this manner there is no break point and creatine in any amount will help with energy and recovery it is only when you are trying to bulk up that you need a constant supply of creatine so that your muscles are constanly saturated with creatine helping to constanly pull fluid to the muscles increasing their size. If liquid creatine really did work and was absorbed and ready to use 20 minutes pre-workout, this might work.
However, liquid creatine really isn't a good way to get creatine and your body uses what's stored in your muscles first and foremost, regardless of what you have recently ingested. That's why building your creatine serum levels is important. Yes, it's important for guys trying to put on size, but it's also important for the recovery effects as well.
Spartan Chino 03-31-2010, 01:18 PM okay but i just want to look lean cuz cuz im 160 and i need to go back to 152 i would love to gain muscle but naturally
Hi-Dro 03-31-2010, 08:43 PM just eat the right foods
forget all these bs supplements dawg
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