He's now saying that Brewster, not Rahman, is next on his list. That is disgraceful. I thought this guy was gonna defend the belt several times a year? He's defended it once, and it's been over a year since he won it. What a joke.

Yeah i hate the fact that so many people are Klitschko nuthuggers , the best fight he ever ha and he lost it. His brother sucks but people always make a excuse as to why he gets knocked out . Who has vitali Klitschko ever fought that was actualy equal to him ? HE is set to fight Rahman , a fighter almost his size with equal reach . Now he chooses to fight the smaller brewster . I am all for unifying the heavyweight belts , but i am also for getting Klitschko out of there also .

So...do you guys think that the reason he's fighting Rahman is because he creates a lesser risk than Brewster? If that is the case IMO he's just trying to make money before he takes on Brewster in the event he gets KO'D. I for one don't see Klitschko getting KO'D by Brewster but, Then again I didn't think Brewster would KO Golotta in the 1st round.

He's now saying that Brewster, not Rahman, is next on his list. That is disgraceful. I thought this guy was gonna defend the belt several times a year? He's defended it once, and it's been over a year since he won it. What a joke.

Although I dont consider him very skilled, I dont consider him a joke either really. I do think he's the champ right now mainly because of the level of competition in the heavy wt division. I actually give Brewster a decent chance against him, even though I wish he'd wait a while to fight him. What happened with the fight against Rahman? Did he give any reason for not fighting him ?

Vitali's best TWO fights are his two losses. I've said that since I signed up on this site.

Brewster will be fighting his mandatory in the fall when Vitali claims he wants Brewster. He's running his mouth knowing that fight won't happen. Once the WBC interim champion is determined, Vitali only has so many months to fight Rahman/Barrett. He'll probably get stripped, and the Klitschko fans will be composing awful threads directed towards the WBC, calling it a joke organization...

Lack of activity REALLY makes me dislike a fighter...

Vitali has been fighting 1-2 times a year only..

I love Castillo, he fought 4 times in 10 months..

Vitali's best TWO fights are his two losses. I've said that since I signed up on this site.

AGREED!!!

and the Klitschko fans will be composing awful threads directed towards the WBC, calling it a joke organization...

Oh GOD, I hope not!!!!!!!!!!!!! :eek:

Call the awkward Ukranian anything you like I would still pick him too beat Ruiz and Byrd-the other two belt holders...

Why is Rahman all of a sudden such a bad ass? The guy put forth one of the worst performances I have ever seen in a HW title fight against Ruiz...be careful when you listen to the Rock talk about how Vitaly is ducking him, Rock is the undisputed heavyweight champ of **** talk, he could make anyone look bad with his mouth but I am not fooled by a ko of Meehan.

By no means am I in love with Vitaly and by no means do I wish to rub and lick his balls...oh and by no means do I expect Byrd (lost at least 2 of his last 3) and Ruiz (enough said) to beat him.

At the very least we should be somewhat grateful of the "big awkward" after all he is a ****ing heavyweight who wins by KO not by disputed decision.

Call the awkward Ukranian anything you like I would still pick him too beat Ruiz and Byrd-the other two belt holders...

Why is Rahman all of a sudden such a bad ass? The guy put forth one of the worst performances I have ever seen in a HW title fight against Ruiz...be careful when you listen to the Rock talk about how Vitaly is ducking him, Rock is the undisputed heavyweight champ of **** talk, he could make anyone look bad with his mouth but I am not fooled by a ko of Meehan.

By no means am I in love with Vitaly and by no means do I wish to rub and lick his balls...oh and by no means do I expect Byrd (lost at least 2 of his last 3) and Ruiz (enough said) to beat him.

At the very least we should be somewhat grateful of the "big awkward" after all he is a ****ing heavyweight who wins by KO not by disputed decision.


......Great post Scap my man!!!

Vitali is better than ruiz, byrd, rahman, brock, peter, etc.

but what if Vitali was the same size as Brock

If a Vitali that was Brocks size fought Brock, Vitali would get destroyed...Vitali only wins cuz he gets such a size advantage...

It's like putting Marco Antonio Barrera with Bernard Hopkins...

Vitali is better than ruiz, byrd, rahman, brock, peter, etc.

but what if Vitali was the same size as Brock

If a Vitali that was Brocks size fought Brock, Vitali would get destroyed...Vitali only wins cuz he gets such a size advantage...

It's like putting Marco Antonio Barrera with Bernard Hopkins...
that's not a valid point. Otherwise, Tyson would be an underdog against McBride and Nicolay Valuev would be cleaning up the division...

that's not a valid point. Otherwise, Tyson would be an underdog against McBride and Nicolay Valuev would be cleaning up the division...
Vitali is good but you gotta think about that...

Valuev and McBride suck...

Vitali is better than ruiz, byrd, rahman, brock, peter, etc.

but what if Vitali was the same size as Brock

If a Vitali that was Brocks size fought Brock, Vitali would get destroyed...Vitali only wins cuz he gets such a size advantage...

It's like putting Marco Antonio Barrera with Bernard Hopkins...

If my aunt had balls she would be my uncle


If Tito couldn't punch so hard he would be ordinary


VK is 6'7" should he apologize for that?

i can't complain, at least he is fighting a champion. now they can start unifying the titles. Rahman can wait for the winner.

If my aunt had balls she would be my uncle


If Tito couldn't punch so hard he would be ordinary


VK is 6'7" should he apologize for that?


yes, he can...no just joking...

but he has not proven himself yet...

Johnson was fat

Sanders was fat

Williams was fat

Im not takin anything away from v klit but he hasnt proven himself yet...

i can't complain, at least he is fighting a champion. now they can start unifying the titles. Rahman can wait for the winner.

unless Vitali gets stripped for not fighting Rahman. Then Vitali and Brewster fight for the WBO belt and Rahman has the WBC. Still no unification...

I have to agree with the greatest. Who has Vitali fought to be iven such accolade? He fought an undertrained and Visibly out of shape Lennox (This wasnt Vitali's fault though). He quit like a little schoolgirl against Byrd who he towers over like a giant. He fought Kirk Johnson the only man in boxing who I have ever heard say that he was scared of another boxer/man (Interview before he fought Maskaev) and he has had a few other victories against opponents who meant really nothing. Now he is trying to duck out of his mandatory and fight Brewster as opposed to Rahman Why? Rahman may be the king of **** talking but he is at least a king who will try to fight anyone and not duck them. Even Johnny Ruiz tries to fight everyone and not duck them. Klitchko needss to go ahead and fight rahman and kill that one out and earn everyones respect. He has plenty of time for brewster. Heck brewster cant even pay people to fight him most of the time so it isnt like he better get brewster or the fight wont happen cause brewster will be fighting someone else. Anyway he should kill out Rahman if he can and go ahead and focus on everyone after that. That we he retains his belt and hushes all the critics.

Notedly (In a fight Vitali vs Ruiz I would actually root for Ruiz because at least the quuietman wont duck people and he is a better sport the Dr. Vitali *****ko

you all so full of ****, u people want the tittles unified Vitali will fight Brwester and will unify 2 belts, now its not good enough for u *****es cause u want him to fight that pieace of **** rahman. You haters will always talk **** and always make up new excuses even if vitali will fight and beat everryone u still gonna be talking ****, and as for him not fighting enough he had a good reason he was injured and he wants to be 100% for next fight....so please enough wit the bull****t..

VITALY is a *** . Big frankenstein , he doesnt even have character to like about him . He reminds me of Dragoff from Rocky 3

VITALY is a *** . Big frankenstein , he doesnt even have character to like about him . He reminds me of Dragoff from Rocky 3

Ivan Drago from Rock IV

I can't stand that ****in' "punk from Germany" as Toney calls him (even though he's not German).

Wlad is Vitali's sacrificial lamb..

I think he should fight Rahman because he said he would, period.
I admit, his opponents haven't been in the best shape, but Larry Holmes fought a flabby, 38 yr. old Ali with Parkinson's, and cried after the fight because the "victory" meant so much to him. He actually claimed that as a victory, like he beat a prime Ali or something...at least VK keeps his mouth shut most of the time.

Ivan Drago from Rock IV
HAHAHAHAHAHHHAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Can't even get the insult right!

Some are getting a little hard on Vitali!!!! He fights as often as Tyson ever did (probably more often). Lennox Lewis didn't exactly fight more than once or twice a year! Vitali has done everything that was expected of him! He took a fight with Lewis on extremely short notice and the fact that Lewis was supposedly out of shape is his own fault and a disgrace considering he was supposed to be defending his title so he should have been training hard for Johnson! Vitali gave Lewis hell and only lost due to a bad cut over his eye! Lewis retired rather than having to face Vitali again (as we all know!!!) so Vitali and Johnson fought for Lewis' title. Vitali beat Johnson as nobody else was able to, by KO 2! Vitali then went on to handily defeat the man that KOed an invincible looking Wlad Klitschko, Corrie Sanders and he beat him up pretty good showing again (like in the Lewis fight) his heart and chin by overcoming a scary 1st round attack by Sanders who is one of the hardest hitters in the division. The only reason he fought Williams is due to his KO of Tyson which because of who Tyson is/was made that KO impressive. That is no different than many of the recent champions questionable defenses. Vitali seems to be under that microscope even if he sneezes wrong. He is injury prone which is the only reason some of his fights haven't come off as scheduled! Of the current champions, Byrd beat Vitali on a technicality (Vitali tore his shoulder) otherwise Vitali was pummeling Byrd and would do it again! Ruiz would have no chance against Vitali with that hugging style and Brewster who is tough and strong, doesn't have the skills to beat Vitali. Rahman isn't going anywhere, he and Vitali will meet if he gets by Barrett that is.

Ruiz is no joke, right? :rolleyes: :cool:

Nothing wrong with Vitali or his opponents. Non of them were fat, old or whatever. It's just the Anti-Klitschko's trying to discredit the brothers.

For example, the same can be done with Lennox Lewis.

He fought,

2003-06-21 Vitali Klitschko - Awkward and never fought anyone.

2002-06-08 Mike Tyson - Old and lost his skill long ago

2001-11-17 Hasim Rahman - No skill

2001-04-22 Hasim Rahman - Exposed Lewis's weak chin with one lucky punch.

2000-11-11 David Tua 245 - Short/ one dimensional fighter.

2000-07-15 Francois Botha - Out of Shape

2000-04-29 Michael Grant - Glass jaw

1999-11-13 Evander Holyfield - Old Man. Way past his prime. Lewis better off beating up someone from the old folks home.

1999-03-13 Evander Holyfield - See Above

1998-09-26 Zeljko Mavrovic - Who's the little guy?

1998-03-28 Shannon Briggs - No skill

1997-10-04 Andrew Golota - No skill

1997-07-12 Henry Akinwande - Bias Ref

1997-02-07 241 Oliver McCall - Paid Off/ didn't want to fight.

1996-05-10 Ray Mercer - Out of shape/Past his Prime.

1995-10-07 Tommy Morrison - A fictional movie boxer

1995-07-02 Justin Fortune - Who's this little guy?

1995-05-13 Lionel Butler - This guy lost to everyone

It could be said Lewis was in a weak division also and there was something wrong with everyone he fought as well.

Oh and Lewis averaged two fights per year since 1995 and only fought once a year from 2001-2004.

Nothing Wrong with Vitali and I'm sure he will fight whoever the WBC wants him to, Rahman or Brewster.

NO doubt-Lewis fought in one of the worst eras of boxing,filled with man past their primes and old use to be good men. Lewis wouldnt have made it in other era's (7o's-80's) like this one he fought in. Vitali isnt great either but he is respectful and is admired. He doesnt talk **** and wins fights by UD,Steriod or substance inhancers or claim he is the best. He goes out there trying to prove himself and get the KO and doesnt ever lose his cool. True it is bull that he hasnt fought but i think that will cahnge and we will see more of him in the future. But serioulst with who would he fight,no one gives him any credit against anyone he fights and Don King wont let his boxers off their leash so whats the point. We are living through one of the worst era's of boxing people..LIVE With it. VK isnt a skilled figher but it a fighter with pride that doesnt cheat or talk ****,so i dont see why this hate liek he's ducking somone.

ps:F**king ducking Rahman..i am not a Vk Fan but come on...Rahman..Ruiz's ***** Rahman..hahahaha.

Hey noted It is not Vitali's fault that the division is full of bums Now. If Ike Ibeabuchi were still around then none of these saps would be champions. It is shameful that a former middleweight champ is in there beating people and trying to clean out the division. (Actually two former middleweights if you count byrd)
However what everyone is getting at is if you are so talented and can beat Rahman why try to get out of that fight and fight Brewster immediately..(Admittedly the Brewster fight will get him another title and is a better fight from an economic standpoint. however he will loose his title if he fights Rahman. Why not just beat Rahman and then fight Brewster? Also he said he would Fight Rahman why change now. Also beyond that if he kills him out and then beats brewster all critics will have to be silenced and he will not have many fights out there left before he can retire and officially say he fought everyone and cleaned out the division. Besides by beating Rahman he would be eliminating Rahman for good and Rahman would probably wind up retiring thus getting rid of one more person.


and Hurlex Vitali is not the best sport around. Did you see his behavour after Corrie sanders loosened Wladimirs Jaw (Damn watching that fight I am like wow Sanders left hooks were like lasers homing in on Wladimirs jaw.. dammnn!! But anyway after the fight Vitali jumped in the ring and got all in Sanders face and damn near started a second bout right there you call that sportsmanship? maybe I missed something but otherwise, he seemingly has been a respectful guy you know?

So, another "Klitchko is a bum, and would be nothing without his 6'8" frame" thread, on yet another boxing forum.

Lots of big guys were cream puffs in the history of boxing. What makes Klitchko fairly special, is that he knows very well (maybe as good as any boxer in history) how to utilize his size, he has phenomenal reflexes for his size, an outstanding work ethic both in and out of the ring, and superb ring smarts. No, he's not classically "pretty" to watch in the ring like Ali or Frazier, but who the hell cares? He's highly effective, regardless. He's also very businesslike during a fight and a good sportsman. All great stuff for me, when I'm watching a heavyweight match.

And these days, many heavyweights (and even many fighters in lower weight classes) take long breaks between fights. Not to mention the fact that he actually had surgery recently. Some fighters are off for well over a year after surgery (Tszyu, for example).

All this "Klitchko sucks as champ" stuff is starting to grow mold and smell like sour grapes. So what's the real reason some of you guys don't think much of Klitchko? Your favorite current heavy doesn't stand a chance against him, so you automatically classify him as a bum? Come on fellas, be honest with yourselves (and the rest of the folk that read this forum, and others) and tell the real reason you hate "Lurch".

Personally, I like most heavyweights these days, with the exception of Ruiz and Toney. Peter gets on my nerves a little too, I suppose, but only because of his arrogance....which will get smacked out of him when he steps into the ring with a top 10 heavyweight. After that, I think he'll either shape up and become a better fighter for losing, or ship out (retire at age 25).

Anyway, spill it, fellas. What's the real reason you don't like Klitchko? All truthful answers welcome.

P.S.
I didn't ask this because I want to start a flame war. I asked it to get some of you fellas to actually step back and think about your reasoning for a moment and consider whether it's founded in emotion, or in fact.

P.P.S.
Klitchko/Lewis was about as good a heavyweight bout as I've seen in several years. Win or lose, if he puts on a show like that for me to watch without having to pay $50 for it, I'm A-****ing-OK with that.

Also wanted to add....I've begun to feel like the WBC title is **** anyway...in fact, all the "titles" are, and I don't care who holds them anymore. All I really care about these days is seeing the top guys take each other on competetively, with lots of action, as often as possible. Screw the titles. Let the ****wits who run the organizations collect their sanctioning fees from the rats in the otherwise empty arenas for all I care.

So, another "Klitchko is a bum, and would be nothing without his 6'8" frame" thread, on yet another boxing forum.

Lots of big guys were cream puffs in the history of boxing. What makes Klitchko fairly special, is that he knows very well (maybe as good as any boxer in history) how to utilize his size, he has phenomenal reflexes for his size, an outstanding work ethic both in and out of the ring, and superb ring smarts. No, he's not classically "pretty" to watch in the ring like Ali or Frazier, but who the hell cares? He's highly effective, regardless. He's also very businesslike during a fight and a good sportsman. All great stuff for me, when I'm watching a heavyweight match.

And these days, many heavyweights (and even many fighters in lower weight classes) take long breaks between fights. Not to mention the fact that he actually had surgery recently. Some fighters are off for well over a year after surgery (Tszyu, for example).

All this "Klitchko sucks as champ" stuff is starting to grow mold and smell like sour grapes. So what's the real reason some of you guys don't think much of Klitchko? Your favorite current heavy doesn't stand a chance against him, so you automatically classify him as a bum? Come on fellas, be honest with yourselves (and the rest of the folk that read this forum, and others) and tell the real reason you hate "Lurch".

Personally, I like most heavyweights these days, with the exception of Ruiz and Toney. Peter gets on my nerves a little too, I suppose, but only because of his arrogance....which will get smacked out of him when he steps into the ring with a top 10 heavyweight. After that, I think he'll either shape up and become a better fighter for losing, or ship out (retire at age 25).

Anyway, spill it, fellas. What's the real reason you don't like Klitchko? All truthful answers welcome.

P.S.
I didn't ask this because I want to start a flame war. I asked it to get some of you fellas to actually step back and think about your reasoning for a moment and consider whether it's founded in emotion, or in fact.

P.P.S.
Klitchko/Lewis was about as good a heavyweight bout as I've seen in several years. Win or lose, if he puts on a show like that for me to watch without having to pay $50 for it, I'm A-****ing-OK with that.
People hate on VK it seems because they simply don't want him there. Every champion is going to have haters, that's the way it's always been. I personally think it's pathetic how people hate on VK so bad. He has done about as much as Lewis except beat an old Tyson and overrated Rahman. How will anybody beat VK? I bet the VK haters can't answer that one. He's taken shots from some of the hardest hitters in boxing and hasn't even fallen down. How will anybody KO him or beat him? I'll leave it to the haters to answer that one, and if they can't they need to shut the **** up.

Punch him in the Shoulder and wait for him to quit on the stool .

Punch his face open:

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The reason some people hate him, is because of the overwhelming hype surrounding him.

I am often labeled a "hater" despite my constant assertion that I only hate his blinded fanatical followers, not he himself.

I think he's a large, akward, strong largly unproven heavyweight who is definatly one of the top current Heavyweights, at one of the weakest points in the history of the division.

I think the biased hating agaisnt him by some, is vastly outweighed by the flaming nut hugging of the Goofy Klitschko Avatar faction that contribute to him being extremly over hyped.

Since losing to Lewis, he has beat two very meidocre fighters. There is no doubt he looks to be one of the best current Heavyweights, but until he ACTUALLY beats the other title holders, he doesn't warrent being regarded anymore than a solid strong large and akward Heavyweight.

Punch his face open:

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Nobody tries to punch a fighters face open or intentionally cut them...it's not what you're supposed to do. :rolleyes: :D

Nobody tries to punch a fighters face open or intentionally cut them...it's not what you're supposed to do. :rolleyes: :D


That's not to say that cut can't get re-opened.

It was a direct answer to the question of how a current meidocre Heavyweight (as there are now class Heavyweights around now) could beat him.

why don't you ask Chris Byrd how to make him quit all you gotta do is last for more than 5 rounds (Wihtout getting hit too often) and he quits hahaha. Yes he had a shoulder injury but I remember Jesus Chaves fighting erik Morales for several rounds with one arm. That is how you beat him

That's not to say that cut can't get re-opened.

It was a direct answer to the question of how a current meidocre Heavyweight (as there are now class Heavyweights around now) could beat him.


I recall your argument with someone over the fact that Lennox Lewis had no intention of slicing Vitalis face up...that thread was funny.

I recall your argument with someone over the fact that Lennox Lewis had no intention of slicing Vitalis face up...that thread was funny.


;)

That was funny stuff.

Punch his face open:

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I guess that would work, but wouldn't that work against any fighter? I know people hype up VK to be invincible and this ticks people off. The only thing that's wrong with this is that people who hate on him because of that seem like they are ****ing idiots. Why don't you try insulting the fans instead of the fighter if this is the case? Insulting VK makes people look stupid. IMO, it's like you take the side of Brewster, Ruiz, or Byrd instead. It's not a guarantee, but VK would likely beat all of them. There's many negative things I could say about those 3 other champs, but I don't because I don't have to. VK is the best right now, whether anybody likes it or not. Damn.

Brewster, Ruiz, or Byrd instead. It's not a guarantee, but VK would likely beat all of them.

And that's a large part of what brings on the over-hyping.

The attitude that everyone 'thinks' he'd beat them all, so he deserves to be regarded like it's already happened.

Only it hasn't. He won the title agianst Corrie Sanders, and defended it agaisnt Danny Williams. Outside of that, his biggest career wins are over a 260lb Kirk Johnson, and Larry Donald.

I need to see him actually beat Byrd Ruiz Toney or Brewster before I start to give him some of the credit that's so freely thrown at him...

Nothing wrong with Vitali or his opponents. Non of them were fat, old or whatever. It's just the Anti-Klitschko's trying to discredit the brothers.

For example, the same can be done with Lennox Lewis.

He fought,

2003-06-21 Vitali Klitschko - Awkward and never fought anyone.

2002-06-08 Mike Tyson - Old and lost his skill long ago

2001-11-17 Hasim Rahman - No skill

2001-04-22 Hasim Rahman - Exposed Lewis's weak chin with one lucky punch.

2000-11-11 David Tua 245 - Short/ one dimensional fighter.

2000-07-15 Francois Botha - Out of Shape

2000-04-29 Michael Grant - Glass jaw

1999-11-13 Evander Holyfield - Old Man. Way past his prime. Lewis better off beating up someone from the old folks home.

1999-03-13 Evander Holyfield - See Above

1998-09-26 Zeljko Mavrovic - Who's the little guy?

1998-03-28 Shannon Briggs - No skill

1997-10-04 Andrew Golota - No skill

1997-07-12 Henry Akinwande - Bias Ref

1997-02-07 241 Oliver McCall - Paid Off/ didn't want to fight.

1996-05-10 Ray Mercer - Out of shape/Past his Prime.

1995-10-07 Tommy Morrison - A fictional movie boxer

1995-07-02 Justin Fortune - Who's this little guy?

1995-05-13 Lionel Butler - This guy lost to everyone

It could be said Lewis was in a weak division also and there was something wrong with everyone he fought as well.

Oh and Lewis averaged two fights per year since 1995 and only fought once a year from 2001-2004.

Nothing Wrong with Vitali and I'm sure he will fight whoever the WBC wants him to, Rahman or Brewster.

Take away your insults to the fighters, and that list is pretty impressive

Take away your insults to the fighters, and that list is pretty impressive

Actualy, I'm a fan of several of those boxers (Holyfield, Tyson, Golota.....). The post was to prove a point that there is nothing wrong with Klitscko's opponents (Fat, out of shape, and so on) and insults were fictional.

Actualy, I'm a fan of several of those boxers (Holyfield, Tyson, Golota.....). The post was to prove a point that there is nothing wrong with Klitscko's opponents (Fat, out of shape, and so on) and insults were fictional.
*********.com has ranked the top 15 heavyweights IN ADDITION TO big Vit. They are:

1. Vitali Klitschko
2. Chris Byrd
3. Hasim Rahman
4. Lamon Brewster
5. Wladimir Klitschko
6. James Toney
7. John Ruiz
8. Samuel Peter
9. Calvin Brock
10. Luan Krasniqi
11. Nicolay Valuev
12. Monte Barrett
13. Andrew Golota
14. DaVarryl Williamson
15. Jameel McCline
16. Sergei Lyakovich

The recognized champion is 0-1 against the best in the division.

*********.com has ranked the top 15 heavyweights IN ADDITION TO big Vit. They are:

1. Vitali Klitschko
2. Chris Byrd
3. Hasim Rahman
4. Lamon Brewster
5. Wladimir Klitschko
6. James Toney
7. John Ruiz
8. Samuel Peter
9. Calvin Brock
10. Luan Krasniqi
11. Nicolay Valuev
12. Monte Barrett
13. Andrew Golota
14. DaVarryl Williamson
15. Jameel McCline
16. Sergei Lyakovich

The recognized champion is 0-1 against the best in the division.

What's your point? What was the top 15 at the time he faced his most recent opponents? They aren't on the list because he knocked them off the list.

Boxing Rec has Vitali's recent opponents ranked,

18 Kirk Johnson
20 Danny Williams
23 Corrie Sanders

And that's after he defeated them. They were top 15 opponents, if not top 10, at the time he faced them.

I just wish his next fight would hurry up and happen. I REALLY wish he would fight Rahman because he said he would fight him next, and I actually think he is a better fighter than Brewster anyway. I just wanna get to the next "Rahman is a bum, we all knew it", "Brewster sucks ass, we all knew it", and "Vitali is a joke of a champion, if he weren't so damn tall..." threads. lol
It's always gonna be this way no matter who he fights.

I can no longer defend Vitali. I was a fan but now I am starting to lose much respect for him. It's blatant that he fears facing Rahman (why I have no idea). Vitali has tried everyway possible to get out of fighting Rahman. Personally I think Barrett will beat Rahman and when that happens then Vitali will probably change his tune and agree to fight Barrett. That will show what kind of a chump he has become. Note to Vitali: STOP coming to your baby brothers defense all the time. Stand up be a man and defend your title like a true champion is supposed to.

I can no longer defend Vitali. I was a fan but now I am starting to lose much respect for him. It's blatant that he fears facing Rahman (why I have no idea). Vitali has tried everyway possible to get out of fighting Rahman. Personally I think Barrett will beat Rahman and when that happens then Vitali will probably change his tune and agree to fight Barrett. That will show what kind of a chump he has become. Note to Vitali: STOP coming to your baby brothers defense all the time. Stand up be a man and defend your title like a true champion is supposed to. ***** please when Vitali beats a few fighters u will be on his nuts again, we dont want no fans who are with us and then talk **** and when he wins like him again, move the hell on...

***** please when Vitali beats a few fighters u will be on his nuts again, we dont want no fans who are with us and then talk **** and when he wins like him again, move the hell on...
Hey slick, if he doesn't face Rahman (depending upon whether or not he defeats Barrett) I will not root for him because he pussed out of facing his mandatory.


If Vitali faces Brewster in September and wins the WBO and does not get stripped of his WBC belt in the process and then faces the winner of Rahman vs Barrett then I will have no problem with him, but it seems as though he is blatantly refusing to face Rahman out of fear. Vitali has already held the WBO belt.

I have to agree with Bozo No-no. I actually have nothing against Vitali its just that he is extremely over-hyped and if he doesnt face Rahman that will be an extremely negative sign in my eyes. Not because I dont feel that he can or cannot beat Rahman its just the principal behind it. First off He promised to fight Rahman and he has eluded the fight three times. (For whatever reasons I dont feel like discussing because that will be for another thread lol). Secondly Rahman is his mandatory. if rahman gets through Barett and Vitali doesnt fight him he looses his belt, if he can so easily dispatch rahman why not just beat him, retain your title and then unify another belt? That way he keeps his belt, kills out all critics who feel that rahman can beat him and he gains some respect from those who dont respect him.

Can someone please tell me where Vitali says he will not fight Rahman? Did I miss an article somewhere? All I saw was that Vitali said he would be willing to fight Brewster. Not instead of Rahman, or in place of, or anything else this is being twisted into.

Somehow that turned into Vitali ducking Rahman when it was Rahman who originally blocked their fight in April.

I have NO doubt Vitali will fight whoever the WBC tells him to.

BTW Rahman still has to get by Barrett, who he has disrespected and overlooked.

Can someone please tell me where Vitali says he will not fight Rahman? Did I miss an article somewhere? All I saw was that Vitali said he would be willing to fight Brewster. Not instead of Rahman, or in place of, or anything else this is being twisted into.

Somehow that turned into Vitali ducking Rahman when it was Rahman who originally blocked their fight in April.

I have NO doubt Vitali will fight whoever the WBC tells him to.

BTW Rahman still has to get by Barrett, who he has disrespected and overlooked.


I think if Barret is in top shape, he can outwork Rahman. I have always liked Rahman, but for some reason people are overrating him due to his string of wins over nobodies. Yes, Kali Meehan is a nobody.

I think if Barret is in top shape, he can outwork Rahman. I have always liked Rahman, but for some reason people are overrating him due to his string of wins over nobodies. Yes, Kali Meehan is a nobody.

I agree. I have always liked Rahman as well. I'm also a fan of Barrett's. Having said that, I hope Barrett kicks his ass for disrespecting him. It would be poetic.

And I agree with your assesment of Kali Meehan.

Rahman is no more legit than Brewster right now, which makes all you people saying Klitschko has to fight Rahman to legitimize himself look...like babies. Relax already. Fighting Brewster doesn't mean he won't fight Rahman anyway, but they might not fight because Barrett will beat Rahman anyway (I think).