View Full Version : Is Wladamir Klitschko A Greater HW Than The Following?


Southpaw16BF
03-29-2010, 01:09 PM
-Floyd Patterson
-Jersey Joe Walcott
-Ezzard Charles(Remeber only Judge Charles On His HW Accomplishments)
-Riddick Bowe

Sugarj
03-29-2010, 01:34 PM
Oooooh tricky,

Head to head in a twelve round boxing match I'd slightly favour Wlad over Patterson, Walcott and Charles. All were superior technicians in my opinion but Wlad's size and power would lean me towards him, I rate his skills and jab even if he is a bit boring to watch. Neither of the three had amazing chins at heavyweight.......neither does Wlad, but I do think he beats these guys in at least 2 out of 3 matches.

Dont get me wrong......a Patterson leaping left hook might close the show or a Walcott straight right or left uppercut (like the one he landed on Charles) may well get Wlad out of there but tough as it is, I'd go with Wlad if I had to bet.

As for Riddick Bowe, I think the best Bowe beats the best Wlad convincingly and even the 1995 Bowe has a punchers chance. Is Bowe a greater heavyweight? Errr......his peak was too short.

Resume wise, Wlad has more heavyweight title fights than any of the guys mentioned, Patterson had quite a few too and I'm not going to Boxrec who had more. But the problem is all three guys mixed skills in a much stronger era. Bowe's three fights with peak or near peak Holyfield probably elevate him above all of Wlad's title wins. History wont be kind to the noughties and I fear Wlad in decades to come will be possibly unjustly ranked far below at least Patterson, Walcott and Charles.

Just an opinion, I'm expecting flack.

sonnyboyx2
03-29-2010, 01:55 PM
IMO Wlad would lose to all of them by KO

CarlosG815
03-29-2010, 03:58 PM
No
No
Yes
Maybe

EzzardFan
03-29-2010, 05:17 PM
IMO Wlad would lose to all of them by KO

Absolutely.

Joey Giardello
03-29-2010, 05:24 PM
-Floyd Patterson
-Jersey Joe Walcott
-Ezzard Charles(Remeber only Judge Charles On His HW Accomplishments)
-Riddick Bowe

Yes he is a greater heavyweight than all of them, charles was a great lightheavyweight, jersey joe, floyd patterson and riddick bowe all had very short title reigns, were as wladmir has been the number 1 heavyweight for the last 3 or 4 years beating every contender put in front of him you cant ask for no more, the only bit of the puzzle that is missing is big mouth david haye, but that fight will happen soon, wladmir will get haye out of there inside ten rounds . Plus another reason i rank wladmir ahead is i feel head to head he beats all of them above fighters

JAB5239
03-30-2010, 12:40 AM
IMO Wlad would lose to all of them by KO

Absolutely.

Im no great fan of Wlad, but he isn't losing to Patterson or Walcott. Bowe would stop him and I would give Charles a fair chance of winning a decision if he could avoid getting put to sleep.

Ziggy Stardust
03-30-2010, 12:50 AM
Im no great fan of Wlad, but he isn't losing to Patterson or Walcott. Bowe would stop him and I would give Charles a fair chance of winning a decision if he could avoid getting put to sleep.

I dunno. Walcott was a pretty damn good fighter when he was at the top of his game :dunno:

Poet

JAB5239
03-30-2010, 12:55 AM
I dunno. Walcott was a pretty damn good fighter when he was at the top of his game :dunno:

Poet

Walcott was a fantastic fighter when he stayed focused. But he seemed to have a habit of getting lackadaisical. He could ill afford to do that with a puncher like Wlad. On top of that I don't think he could really hurt Wlad, but Im sure arguments can be made. This is just MY opinion though.

Ziggy Stardust
03-30-2010, 12:59 AM
Walcott was a fantastic fighter when he stayed focused. But he seemed to have a habit of getting lackadaisical. He could ill afford to do that with a puncher like Wlad. On top of that I don't think he could really hurt Wlad, but Im sure arguments can be made. This is just MY opinion though.

Although Wlad isn't particularly difficult to hurt if you can get past his reach.

Poet

JAB5239
03-30-2010, 01:05 AM
Although Wlad isn't particularly difficult to hurt if you can get past his reach.

Poet

True enough. But I still question Walcott would handle those punches working his way inside. I don't see his chin as as bad as many like to claim, but I wouldn't consider it great either.

sonnyboyx2
03-30-2010, 03:13 AM
Im no great fan of Wlad, but he isn't losing to Patterson or Walcott. Bowe would stop him and I would give Charles a fair chance of winning a decision if he could avoid getting put to sleep.

JAB.. Pattersons peek-a-boo style, fast hands and leeping-in left-hook would be bad news for Wlad.. one good left-hook from Patterson would be `good night` Wlad

mickey malone
03-30-2010, 03:57 AM
JAB.. Pattersons peek-a-boo style, fast hands and leeping-in left-hook would be bad news for Wlad.. one good left-hook from Patterson would be `good night` Wlad
Very true, but Patterson never had the best of chins either, and if he leapt up in the air while throwing punches at Wlad, he may get hit with an accurate counter that wouldn't need to be particularly hard in order to KO a 13 and a half stone man in mid air..