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borikua 05-31-2005, 11:20 PM "My 2000 Olympic victory over Cotto was more than a step toward winning the gold medal, it is also a blueprint for winning the world title on June 11 and spoiling his Madison Square Garden debut." --Muhammad Abdullaev
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Abdullaev (15-1, 12 KOs), the 2000 Olympic gold medalist, challenges undefeated WBO jr. welterweight champion Miguel Cotto, 23-0 (19 KOs), June 11 in Cotto's Madison Square Garden debut. The fight will be seen at 10 PM ET/PT on HBOs "Boxing After Dark," and marks the first time in the show's nine-year history it has ever done a show from The Garden's big arena. Abdullaev is the last man to defeat Cotto -- at the 2000 Olympics.
Tuesday, May 31 2005
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This guy must be jokin, he "beat" Cotto cuz Cotto didn't got any point on the body punches that he landed...Pinto beat Cotto twice in the amateurs and we know what happened..
Cotto is going to light abdulaev up this time around. He was flooring Corley left and right, and administered him his first knockout loss. This will be very brutal and 1 sided considering Abdulaev is an easy target, and by no means a slick fighter. I would be shocked if Cotto won by means other than a knockout: Let alone lost the fight.
The Fix 05-31-2005, 11:26 PM im going out on a limb but i think abdulleav is going to stun cotto early with a major KO upset.
im going out on a limb but i think abdulleav is going to stun cotto early with a major KO upset.
Yah, why not? I'll second that!
borikua 06-01-2005, 01:14 AM Yah, why not? I'll second that!
I got 50 mills on Cotto...Deal?
oldgringo 06-01-2005, 01:24 AM I have a billion points on Cotto. OH wait none of you other bastards have that many fake boxingscene points thats right...
No but for real Cotto will knock him out in the mid-late rounds like he does everyone else not named Lovemore N'Dou.
!! Mr. Soprano 06-01-2005, 01:25 AM im going out on a limb but i think abdulleav is going to stun cotto early with a major KO upset.
I kinda agree
!! Mr. Soprano 06-01-2005, 01:26 AM I have a billion points on Cotto. OH wait none of you other bastards have that many fake boxingscene points thats right...
No but for real Cotto will knock him out in the mid-late rounds like he does everyone else not named Lovemore N'Dou.
How did you make so many points other than bets?
A word of advise would be helpful :-(
oldgringo 06-01-2005, 01:30 AM How did you make so many points other than bets?
A word of advise would be helpful :-(
Bets and karma...
I haven't lost a bet in awhile... :D
Shaolin Bushido 06-01-2005, 02:11 AM im going out on a limb but i think abdulleav is going to stun cotto early with a major KO upset.
I think there's avery good chance of it. Everyone suddenly jumped off his bandwagon due to his "KO" loss. That guy wasn't out and if he spoke English better would have finished and won that fight.
m00ks 06-01-2005, 02:18 AM I have a billion points on Cotto. OH wait none of you other bastards have that many fake boxingscene points thats right...
No but for real Cotto will knock him out in the mid-late rounds like he does everyone else not named Lovemore N'Dou.
I have 2 but I'm pickig teh same guy :cool:
Shaolin Bushido 06-01-2005, 02:23 AM Cotto's shine ain't quite as bright after the "win" over that cross dresser who put him on queer street.
Manny_P 06-01-2005, 02:43 AM Cotto has faced tougha oppositions in my opinion. If Cotto is the real deal I see him as, he should KO this guy in less than 4 rounds.
Zab Super Judah 06-01-2005, 03:44 AM cotto by KO within 6
"My 2000 Olympic victory over Cotto was more than a step toward winning the gold medal, it is also a blueprint for winning the world title on June 11 and spoiling his Madison Square Garden debut." --Muhammad Abdullaev
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Abdullaev (15-1, 12 KOs), the 2000 Olympic gold medalist, challenges undefeated WBO jr. welterweight champion Miguel Cotto, 23-0 (19 KOs), June 11 in Cotto's Madison Square Garden debut. The fight will be seen at 10 PM ET/PT on HBOs "Boxing After Dark," and marks the first time in the show's nine-year history it has ever done a show from The Garden's big arena. Abdullaev is the last man to defeat Cotto -- at the 2000 Olympics.
Tuesday, May 31 2005
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This guy must be jokin, he "beat" Cotto cuz Cotto didn't got any point on the body punches that he landed...Pinto beat Cotto twice in the amateurs and we know what happened..
Shaolin Bushido 06-01-2005, 04:11 AM So he was punching Abdullaev to the body? He didn't fall out like Pinto did either; you may be right but Abdullaev's loss seems uncharacteristic for the guy I witnessed fight several times on tv.
Alpha Male 06-01-2005, 07:21 AM Why is Cotto ducking Harris? Is that ever going to happen?
i'm calling the upset.... abby by KO.....
PRboxingfan 06-01-2005, 09:47 AM I think there's avery good chance of it. Everyone suddenly jumped off his bandwagon due to his "KO" loss. That guy wasn't out and if he spoke English better would have finished and won that fight.
Yeah, yeah. 10 seconds don't go by faster in English than in any other language. Also, I'm sure he can still see the ref's fingers as he counts, right? There is no language-barrier excuse for getting KO'd.
But, don't sleep on this kid, either. He has 12 KO's in 16 fights, that's a great %. The kid has power.
I'm calling Cotto win UD.
ghetto passport 06-01-2005, 02:10 PM I watched the amateur fight between these two and even though Abdulaev won, I was more impressed with Cotto. Cotto is faster and stronger than Abdulaev. Cotto can rip three punches off before Abby can counter.
Cotto is bigger, stronger, faster and hits harder... he'll get his shine back when he KO's Abdulaev in impressive fashion.
Upper Cut 06-01-2005, 02:15 PM Everyone is so confident that Cotto is gonna win..
I'm gonna go for an upset. My 10 Mil on Abdulaev against your 20 Mil on Cotto.
Any 1-2 takers?
ghetto passport 06-01-2005, 02:17 PM I'll take that bet... :D
Upper Cut 06-01-2005, 02:40 PM I'll take that bet... :D
Do you have 20 Mil? Why not show it?
ghetto passport 06-01-2005, 03:18 PM Oh yea. I have 20 mill right now in my pocket. Hatton is going down. :boxing:
Soldier01 06-01-2005, 04:38 PM You guys are going to lose some points betting against Cotto.
borikua 06-01-2005, 10:22 PM Cotto: Foe in for rude awakening!
By Jason "J-Gon" Gonzalez
Yesterday, Muhammad Abdullaev said his Olympic win over Miguel Cotto in 2000 was the blueprint he'll use to defeat Cotto for the WBO title on June 11 at Madison Square Garden. Today Cotto responded. "He is in for a rude awakening if he thinks he is going to be fighting the same 19-year-old he did in Australia," said Cotto. "The Olympic chapter is over. I am a true professional. I am there to do the job. I have grown a lot over the past five years and he will see come June 11 that it is not the same 19-year-old."
Wednesday, June 1 2005
oldgringo 06-01-2005, 10:28 PM Miguel Cotto is going to demolish this guy. If Cotto doesn't take on a big name opponent in his next two fights i'll be extremely pissed off.
borikua 06-01-2005, 10:44 PM Miguel Cotto is going to demolish this guy. If Cotto doesn't take on a big name opponent in his next two fights i'll be extremely pissed off.
lol...Calm down Gringo...He's doing the right thing fighting the guys that Arum picks, once he becomes one of boxing big stars he will be able to call his own shots..
jack_the_rippuh 06-01-2005, 10:52 PM I see where most of you Cotto-supporters are coming from, but one thing you guys are forgetting is that Cotto is not Tito.
Upper Cut 06-01-2005, 10:56 PM Miguel Cotto is going to demolish this guy. If Cotto doesn't take on a big name opponent in his next two fights i'll be extremely pissed off.
So do we have a bet?
1 to 2??
My 10 Mil against your 20?
borikua 06-01-2005, 10:57 PM I see where most of you Cotto-supporters are coming from, but one thing you guys are forgetting is that Cotto is not Tito.
Haha...I know that u are going to miss Tito, but you'll still have Cotto to hate on! let's see what happens when my boy meets your boy in the future...
jack_the_rippuh 06-01-2005, 10:58 PM Haha...I know that u are going to miss Tito, but you'll still have Cotto to hate on! let's see what happens when my boy meets your boy in the future...
We seen a preview of it already. Bruseles vs. Mayweather.
Soldier01 06-01-2005, 11:04 PM but one thing you guys are forgetting is that Cotto is not Tito.
That's right...IMO, Cotto is showing signs of being better than Tito because he has better boxing skills and defense.
Soldier01 06-01-2005, 11:07 PM We seen a preview of it already. Bruseles vs. Mayweather.
Don't come with that ****! Bruseles doesn't come close to cotto.
borikua 06-01-2005, 11:11 PM We seen a preview of it already. Bruseles vs. Mayweather.
Yeah right....like Bruseles is in the same level as Cotto...keep praying that they don’t meet cuz it would be too hard for you to see your idol get beat by my boy..
Alpha Male 06-01-2005, 11:15 PM Floyd would slap Cotto around like a stepchild.
Alpha Male 06-01-2005, 11:20 PM Don't come with that ****! Bruseles doesn't come close to cotto.
I don't think he meant that they're on the same level, but that they have the same fighting style except Cotto throws more punches.
jack_the_rippuh 06-01-2005, 11:22 PM Identical fighting style. Cotto is a bit busier and has more power. If he wants to hit that body, he better hit it early and often, because Mayweather moves completely out of the way he someone tries to hit him in the body.
Soldier01 06-01-2005, 11:45 PM Identical fighting style?? Yeah right. :rolleyes:
oldgringo 06-02-2005, 12:00 AM I don't think he meant that they're on the same level, but that they have the same fighting style except Cotto throws more punches.
Wrong. Cotto has quicker hands, a much tighter defense, WAY more intelligence (sans Corley fight), and he has consistant power. I don't think Cotto will really be much of a 1 punch KO guy, but his body attack is lethal and he can definitely put you on queer street with one of those left hooks. Cotto is an excellent counter puncher too.
All that being said, we haven't seen any of this against Mayweather caliber guys so the jury is still out. I'd give you 300 million points though if PBF slapped Cotto around like a school-boy though. That would definitely never happen.
oldgringo 06-02-2005, 12:02 AM So do we have a bet?
1 to 2??
My 10 Mil against your 20?
I don't mess around with that small-time stuff homey. How about, if this fight ever comes off, and Floyd beats Cotto, I'll give you 100 million points...
If Cotto wins, you just get to know that oldgringo is the master. SHO-NUFF!
Soldier01 06-02-2005, 12:07 AM Wrong. Cotto has quicker hands, a much tighter defense, WAY more intelligence (sans Corley fight), and he has consistant power. I don't think Cotto will really be much of a 1 punch KO guy, but his body attack is lethal and he can definitely put you on queer street with one of those left hooks. Cotto is an excellent counter puncher too.
All that being said, we haven't seen any of this against Mayweather caliber guys so the jury is still out. I'd give you 300 million points though if PBF slapped Cotto around like a school-boy though. That would definitely never happen.
I couldn't have said that better myself... Your comment is on point!!
Alpha Male 06-02-2005, 12:20 AM Wrong. Cotto has quicker hands, a much tighter defense, WAY more intelligence (sans Corley fight), and he has consistant power. I don't think Cotto will really be much of a 1 punch KO guy, but his body attack is lethal and he can definitely put you on queer street with one of those left hooks. Cotto is an excellent counter puncher too.
All that being said, we haven't seen any of this against Mayweather caliber guys so the jury is still out. I'd give you 300 million points though if PBF slapped Cotto around like a school-boy though. That would definitely never happen.
I never questioned his level of skill. Of course he's a better fighter than Bruseles, but they basically have the same style. It was evident in the Bruseles fight. They're both trained by the same person. As far as Cotto/Floyd, we'll have to wait until that comes to fruition. However, if they meet, I see Floyd handing him his first loss if he's still undefeated.
oldgringo 06-02-2005, 12:49 AM I never questioned his level of skill. Of course he's a better fighter than Bruseles, but they basically have the same style. It was evident in the Bruseles fight. They're both trained by the same person. As far as Cotto/Floyd, we'll have to wait until that comes to fruition. However, if they meet, I see Floyd handing him his first loss if he's still undefeated.
Looking at it completely unbiased I'd say that Floyd has the advantage, but then again Floyd hasn't taken on anyone as big, strong, and skilled as Cotto.
I'd give Floyd the leg up but I'd say that Cotto would drop Floyd late and would stop him inside 12. Hopefully this fight comes off.
Looking at it completely unbiased I'd say that Floyd has the advantage, but then again Floyd hasn't taken on anyone as big, strong, and skilled as Cotto.
I'd give Floyd the leg up but I'd say that Cotto would drop Floyd late and would stop him inside 12. Hopefully this fight comes off.
Clouded by the Darkside, this one's vision has become.
ghetto passport 06-02-2005, 03:08 AM Looking at it completely unbiased I'd say that Floyd has the advantage, but then again Floyd hasn't taken on anyone as big, strong, and skilled as Cotto.
I'd give Floyd the leg up but I'd say that Cotto would drop Floyd late and would stop him inside 12. Hopefully this fight comes off.
Floyd has never taken on anyone as skilled as Miguel Cotto? I think Jose Castillo would have something to say about that.
Alpha Male 06-02-2005, 09:56 AM Clouded by the Darkside, this one's vision has become.
LMAO, I totally agree. Cotto isn't quick enough to consistently land clean shots on Floyd.
oldgringo 06-02-2005, 12:05 PM LMAO, I totally agree. Cotto isn't quick enough to consistently land clean shots on Floyd.
Oh but Castillo is?
I think Cotto is a bigger scarier version of Castillo with better skills and handspeed. Castillo is just so good now because he is so experienced and knows his game perfectly, something Cotto does not quite know yet.
jack_the_rippuh 06-02-2005, 12:43 PM Kevin Kelley aka OldGringo, Demarcus Corley fought both guys and he said it himself that Cotto would never beat Floyd.
oldgringo 06-02-2005, 12:48 PM Kevin Kelley aka OldGringo, Demarcus Corley fought both guys and he said it himself that Cotto would never beat Floyd.
Never trust teh word of a crossdresser....
Never trust teh word of a crossdresser....
http://www.lvboxing.com/images/mainpagepic/chopchop520.jpg
hehe.
jack_the_rippuh 06-02-2005, 12:54 PM Never trust teh word of a crossdresser....
Hey, I'm not gonna sit here and let you trash talk my dad's brother like that.
oldgringo 06-02-2005, 12:56 PM Hey, I'm not gonna sit here and let you trash talk my dad's brother like that.
he started it.
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