I'm hearing that Corrales-Castillo will take place in September (or Corrales will be stripped). How do you guys see that fight going down?

Personally, I picked Corrales to win the first fight, and shortly after the fight I was confident he'd win a rematch if it were to happen.

However, my opinion has changed after watching how both fighters have reacted weeks after their fight. Castillo wants a rematch very, very bad and he doesn't seem to be mentally effected by "The War" at all.

Corrales on the other hand seems very reluctant to fight Castillo again, his people don't want to fight Castillo again, and I just don't feel Corrales will have the same motivation to endure the punishment in the rematch like he did the first time.

My pick: Castillo TKO10 Corrales

I'm hearing that Corrales-Castillo will take place in September (or Corrales will be stripped). How do you guys see that fight going down?

Personally, I picked Corrales to win the first fight, and shortly after the fight I was confident he'd win a rematch if it were to happen.

However, my opinion has changed after watching how both fighters have reacted weeks after their fight. Castillo wants a rematch very, very bad and he doesn't seem to be mentally effected by "The War" at all.

Corrales on the other hand seems very reluctant to fight Castillo again, his people don't want to fight Castillo again, and I just don't feel Corrales will have the same motivation to endure the punishment in the rematch like he did the first time.

My pick: Castillo TKO10 Corrales

Like the first time I picked Castillo ko 10...

It should have been that way the first time.

in the first fight, corrales did what he had to do to guarantee the rematch is a pay per view megaevent.

2nd fight he'll box his ears off, but make it a good fight. think casamayor rematch.

in the first fight, corrales did what he had to do to guarantee the rematch is a pay per view megaevent.

2nd fight he'll box his ears off, but make it a good fight. think casamayor rematch.


There are too many folks out there that think if Diego just sits back and uses his jab the fight is going to be a cake walk...I promise you if Chico sits back and tries to box he may win a few rounds but like chico and Goosen decided upon before the first fight if you box Castillo early he will be a ****ing monster late.

A survey before the first fight amongst fans went something like 60-40 in favor of Corrales...do a survey now and it will most likely be reversed. As someone above put it....Diego does not no if he can take that same beating again and it is just another day at the office for JL Castillo

There are too many folks out there that think if Diego just sits back and uses his jab the fight is going to be a cake walk...I promise you if Chico sits back and tries to box he may win a few rounds but like chico and Goosen decided upon before the first fight if you box Castillo early he will be a ****ing monster late.

A survey before the first fight amongst fans went something like 60-40 in favor of Corrales...do a survey now and it will most likely be reversed. As someone above put it....Diego does not no if he can take that same beating again and it is just another day at the office for JL Castillo

nobody said a cakewalk, but he could get a decision and take less punishment.

who said the fight's gonna happen

As a Corrales fan I am pretty confident that the rematch will happen. I also thought that Diego would be able to knockout Castillo in the first fight, and think that he would win by a wide unanimous decision in the rematch. Diego played to all of Castillo's strengths in the first fight, and not too many of his own. Despite this he was still able to out strategize and outwill Castillo for the knockout win. He will not make it nearly as hard on himself in a potential rematch and as a result it will not be as entertaining of a fight, but it will be a much smoother one for Diego. Neither guy will be hitting the deck this time, but it will be Diego winning the vast majority of the twelve rounds. Castillo does not have either the speed or the defense to compete with Corrales the boxer from the outside, and when he does get inside, Chico showed us he is capable of being effective there as well.

I'm hearing that Corrales-Castillo will take place in September (or Corrales will be stripped). How do you guys see that fight going down?

Personally, I picked Corrales to win the first fight, and shortly after the fight I was confident he'd win a rematch if it were to happen.

However, my opinion has changed after watching how both fighters have reacted weeks after their fight. Castillo wants a rematch very, very bad and he doesn't seem to be mentally effected by "The War" at all.

Corrales on the other hand seems very reluctant to fight Castillo again, his people don't want to fight Castillo again, and I just don't feel Corrales will have the same motivation to endure the punishment in the rematch like he did the first time.

My pick: Castillo TKO10 Corrales

You have to be blind, or stupid, to say Corrales would win a rematch. The ONLY reason he won is because of the mouthpiece bull**** he pulled. He would have been knocked the **** out had he not pulled that ****.

I would say the fact that Castillo had his back on the ropes with his hands at his sides and his eyes rolled back into his head that had something to do with Corrales winning as well. That or managing to go toe to toe with Castillo for ten rounds with each guy trading their best shots. Or maybe getting up from two knockdowns at all and still having enough power not only to damage Castillo, but also to stop him. Or I suppose it could just be the mouthpiece that did all the rising from knockdowns, taking and throwing shots, and heaving unanswered power punches at the end of the 10'th round.

I would say the fact that Castillo had his back on the ropes with his hands at his sides and his eyes rolled back into his head that had something to do with Corrales winning as well. That or managing to go toe to toe with Castillo for ten rounds with each guy trading their best shots. Or maybe getting up from two knockdowns at all and still having enough power not only to damage Castillo, but also to stop him. Or I suppose it could just be the mouthpiece that did all the rising from knockdowns, taking and throwing shots, and heaving unanswered power punches at the end of the 10'th round.

Corrales deserves a ton of credit for the stoppage of Castillo there is no doubt about that but the one thing that every Corrales fan should be able to agree upon is that after the second knockdown he was not prepared to fight after a 10 count...he just wasn't and he told the entire boxing world that loud and clear...sure he ws ready to fight 30+ seconds later but he knew that the 10 count was not enough time and that is why he did what he did.

If the same scenario were to happen in a rematch the ref would wave the fight off immediately.

nobody said a cakewalk, but he could get a decision and take less punishment.

If the rematch ever happens,then Agreed.Its not gonna be easy but chico just needs to use his head alittle more.If he was able to do what he did after two knockdonws(yeah yeah motuhpiece blah blah,its still two ****ing knockdowns) i think hell get a solid UD ,i dont think hell ko castilo without fighting like he did the first time,which he wont,but he'll still rock him a few times.

Corrales deserves a ton of credit for the stoppage of Castillo there is no doubt about that but the one thing that every Corrales fan should be able to agree upon is that after the second knockdown he was not prepared to fight after a 10 count...he just wasn't and he told the entire boxing world that loud and clear...sure he ws ready to fight 30+ seconds later but he knew that the 10 count was not enough time and that is why he did what he did.

If the same scenario were to happen in a rematch the ref would wave the fight off immediately.

Oh definitally the spitting of the mouth guard played a factor there. I mean, anybody who says otherwise is simply and idiot. But, it was not just that is all that I wanted to point out. That and Diego fought the fight that people claimed would result in him getting KO'ed real quick if he did, and he still prevailed. It just seems to me like alot of Castillo fans refuse to accept the fact that the first fight was not just some freak accident and that these two guys are actually really evenly matched. The thing that stands out to me is that Diego won the fight when he fought it Castillo's way, I just think that he would have the advantage if he fought a style that was more suited to him. I don't think that Diego is going to "knock Castillo out in two rounds" or "frustrate him to the point of quiting" or anything like that, because Castillo is too good a fighter for that to be the case. I just think boxing would result in a less exciting fight, but one that was better suited to Chico.

The Second Time Around Diego Would Not Fight The Same Way That He Did The First Time. He Would Simply Use His Length And Out Box Jlc. If There Is A Second Fight I See Corrales Knocking Jlc Out In 11. Imo

mentally corrales is not ready for another fight with castillo

mentally corrales is not ready for another fight with castillo
UR PROBABLY RIGHT ABOUT THAT.CORRALES NEEDS TO CHILL OUT 4 A BIT CAUSE THAT WAS A FREAKIN WAR. JLC NEEDS TIME OFF TOO MAN IT SEEMS LIKE HE FIGHTING EVERY WEEK :boxing:

Oh definitally the spitting of the mouth guard played a factor there. I mean, anybody who says otherwise is simply and idiot. But, it was not just that is all that I wanted to point out. That and Diego fought the fight that people claimed would result in him getting KO'ed real quick if he did, and he still prevailed. It just seems to me like alot of Castillo fans refuse to accept the fact that the first fight was not just some freak accident and that these two guys are actually really evenly matched. The thing that stands out to me is that Diego won the fight when he fought it Castillo's way, I just think that he would have the advantage if he fought a style that was more suited to him. I don't think that Diego is going to "knock Castillo out in two rounds" or "frustrate him to the point of quiting" or anything like that, because Castillo is too good a fighter for that to be the case. I just think boxing would result in a less exciting fight, but one that was better suited to Chico.

My point is that the extra recouperation time aided him a lot. I don't think the same result would have come about had he not spit his mouthpiece. Yeah, it took a LOT to get up, but I think the stoppage would have been on the other side, had additional time to recover not been taken.

Oh definitally the spitting of the mouth guard played a factor there. I mean, anybody who says otherwise is simply and idiot. But, it was not just that is all that I wanted to point out. That and Diego fought the fight that people claimed would result in him getting KO'ed real quick if he did, and he still prevailed. It just seems to me like alot of Castillo fans refuse to accept the fact that the first fight was not just some freak accident and that these two guys are actually really evenly matched. The thing that stands out to me is that Diego won the fight when he fought it Castillo's way, I just think that he would have the advantage if he fought a style that was more suited to him. I don't think that Diego is going to "knock Castillo out in two rounds" or "frustrate him to the point of quiting" or anything like that, because Castillo is too good a fighter for that to be the case. I just think boxing would result in a less exciting fight, but one that was better suited to Chico.


I am a JL guy all the way and I can definately admit that these guys are evenly matched, no doubt. I think the reason why myself and many other JL diehards have had a hard time with the outcome was the suddeness of it all. The fight was over, you could have gotten 10 million to 1 after the second knockdown and you still would not have taken Diego, the fight was over...and as I was celebrating it was over except my guy was the one being ko'd...I was in a state of shock.

If you are rooting for a fighter that you are at all passionate about and you watch a round like the tenth there is no way you are not going to have a few things to say when it is all over. I can't think of a tougher fight too watch your favorite fighter loose than this fight. So go easy on JL fans we are still licking our wounds and we like our boy JL just want to see it again! Lets hope All of the Corrale's fans and Diego himself want the same.

My point is that the extra recouperation time aided him a lot. I don't think the same result would have come about had he not spit his mouthpiece. Yeah, it took a LOT to get up, but I think the stoppage would have been on the other side, had additional time to recover not been taken.

cheap tactic, but effective.

barrios used it against freitas, and failed.

freitas used it against corrales, and failed.

corrales used it against castillo, and was successful.

in one way its cheap, in another way, it shows the fighter is a warrior, because not many fighters will take a beating like that, and use cheap tactics to be able to get up and KEEP taking a beating, except in this case corrales came back.

I have been trying to make that same point for a while, yeah the mouth guard helped-- but it did not cause Diego to do what he did. Skill and will power are what are mostly responsable for Diego's stunning knockout victory over Castillo. People get all up in arms about that incident, but they don't about Evander using his head, Bernard abusing the rules in close, Tito constantly going low, etc... I want a rematch of this fight because I think Diego will have an easier time (not easy, but easier) with Castillo and finally this case can be closed forever.

yea..lets just say this..if Diego didnt spit out his mouthpiece..he wouldnt of beaten the 10 count the second..thus..he loses..Castillo wins...but didnt happen that way..if the rematch happens..Castillo will win..via UD..but it wont happen..Corrales..is..AFRAID to fight Castillo again...terrified

To say that is just stupid, Corrales has never been afraid of anybody in his career and is not about to start being afraid now. He is not afraid of losing basically, he just wants to make big fights. I mean think about the guys he has fought!

Roberto Garcia, Derek Gainer, Angel Manfredy, Floyd Mayweather, Joel Casamayor (twice), Acelino Frietas, Jose Luis Castillo.

Find me one more active fighter with that kind of resume. The guy takes big fights, people who say that he is scared of anybody don't know what they are talking about.

I Agree...corrales Is Too Much Of A Coward To Give Castillo A Rematch...he Begged Casamayor For A Rematch And Got It..then After He Won He Refused To Give Casamayor His Rematch...he Is A Spineless Coward...thank God The Wbc Is Forcing A Rematch..castillo Is The True Champion And Corrales The True Jellyfish....i Hope He Goes Up In Wait And Gets Beat Almost As Bad As He Beat His Wife...

just wants big fights..so another fight with Castillo wouldnt be big?...Look at the guy..he wants to fight..well his camp wants to fight the most..Morales..why? cause they feel he will present a easier fight for Corrales..then Castillo..They know another fight with Castillo will result in another..beating

I Agree...corrales Is Too Much Of A Coward To Give Castillo A Rematch...he Begged Casamayor For A Rematch And Got It..then After He Won He Refused To Give Casamayor His Rematch...he Is A Spineless Coward...thank God The Wbc Is Forcing A Rematch..castillo Is The True Champion And Corrales The True Jellyfish....i Hope He Goes Up In Wait And Gets Beat Almost As Bad As He Beat His Wife...

Yeah, Corrales should have given Casamayor a rematch just like true champion Jose Luis Castillo did after their close fight. Wait a second, that didn't happen! Castillo is going to get his rematch, and after it happens the Castillo fans will wish it didn't as their fighter will have been beaten by Diego twice.

fine if ..Corrales..beats Castillo..in the rematch..no problem..he'll just be the better fighter..doesnt mean..hes still not ducking Castillo right now..cause he is..hes trying to avoid him as best as possible..His camp bringing up boxers..like Morales and Tszyu..not even mentioning..JLC

Ducking Castillo to fight Tzsyu does not make too much sense does it, especially considering that Kostya has a much bigger chance of beating Corrales then Castillo does. Even the most loyal fan of Jose Luis has to admit that.

Tszyu will KO his ass, plain and simple.

Yeah, yeah, blah, blah, but that is not my point. What I am saying is that it is assanine to claim that Chico is ducking JLC to fight Kosyta! It would seem that you agree.

Chico bashing seems to be popular on these boards......

The guy is a warrior, the guy only takes big fights, the guy is exciting etc etc

Chico won the fight, yes with questionable actions but if we start with that we better reassess a whole lotta fights over the years.

Corrales faught a great fight as did JLC - my guess is a rematch would be a 50/50, but lets not say that Chico would destroy him OR JLC would win an easy UD cos thats just BS.

Chico bashing seems to be popular on these boards......

The guy is a warrior, the guy only takes big fights, the guy is exciting etc etc

Chico won the fight, yes with questionable actions but if we start with that we better reassess a whole lotta fights over the years.

Corrales faught a great fight as did JLC - my guess is a rematch would be a 50/50, but lets not say that Chico would destroy him OR JLC would win an easy UD cos thats just BS.

Nobody is saying that Diego would destroy him, I have said multiple times that it would be a tough fight for Diego and that Jose Luis Castillo is a great fighter, I just have pointed out that Diego could make this fight easier on himself then the first one by using a better strategy.

To say that is just stupid, Corrales has never been afraid of anybody in his career and is not about to start being afraid now. He is not afraid of losing basically, he just wants to make big fights. I mean think about the guys he has fought!

Roberto Garcia, Derek Gainer, Angel Manfredy, Floyd Mayweather, Joel Casamayor (twice), Acelino Frietas, Jose Luis Castillo.

Find me one more active fighter with that kind of resume. The guy takes big fights, people who say that he is scared of anybody don't know what they are talking about.

corrales may not have been afraid of castillo before the fight..but now corrales seems to be worried about the type of punishment hes gonna have to take when he fights castillo again..theres no arguing that castillo vs corrales 2 would be the biggest pay day for corrales...when you look at corrales face from the 7 or 8th round on ..he looks like a man without confidence but he did pull off the victory..lets hope they fight again

Castillo wins by TKO 6. Corrales' spirit was left in the ring and he doesn't seem to have the same ambition Castillo does. Corrales will try and box him but Castillo will catch him, stun him, and drop him in the 6th.

It is wierd that Diego appears to want Zoo and not Castillo. I don't know if I buy that and I don't know if that fight will ever happen....Morales... forget it Arum is not stupid....why can't we have a rematch of the greatest fight that I have ever seen?

9 times out of 10 a fighter will never take the same beating again in the ring...I have questions about Diego taking another beating to win but I have no questions about Castillo taking another beating...

I want to see the first fight so bad...

in the first fight, corrales did what he had to do to guarantee the rematch is a pay per view megaevent.

2nd fight he'll box his ears off, but make it a good fight. think casamayor rematch.

I think Corrales will definitely box more in the rematch. However, I wouldn't totally count Castillo out of a boxing match with Corrales. I know Chico has the reach and hand speed but Castillo is a crafty boxer himself.

who said the fight's gonna happen

Castillo did over on **********. He said he's now Corrales' mandatory and if Chico don't fight him he's getting stripped.

Truth be told... Corrales won the first fight fair and square. The mouth-piece issue is irrelavent and whoever uses that as an excuse is simply in denial.

I've seen plenty fighters throw out their mouthpiece and get extra time when hurt. Most recently Acelino Freitas did this when he fought Corrales. Did the extra time help Popo? Nope.

Bottom line: CORRALES KO'D CASTILLO in 10 of the best and most exciting rounds boxing has ever seen.

It is wierd that Diego appears to want Zoo and not Castillo. I don't know if I buy that and I don't know if that fight will ever happen....Morales... forget it Arum is not stupid....why can't we have a rematch of the greatest fight that I have ever seen?

9 times out of 10 a fighter will never take the same beating again in the ring...I have questions about Diego taking another beating to win but I have no questions about Castillo taking another beating...

Good post,I agree with you about the beating.
Before the Corrales was mad dogging everyone and had a mad face on. By the fifth round he had a puppy dog face and was wondering how the hell ha was gonna get out of this one.
I highly doubt Corrales will fight the same and will lose late cause Castillo will do his thing. Remember Chico was told to jump on him early cause Castillo is monster in the late rounds, where I believe Chico would tire and eventually get knocked out.This rematch is still very close and I dont count Corrales out by any means.
I thought it was unfair what Diego had to do to win this fight,this is not a part of boxing imo.He needs to give Castillo the rematch,if he does beat him again then I will be convinced who the better man is.

For now... Corrales proved who the better man is. He fought Castillo's style and still won.

Truth be told... Corrales won the first fight fair and square. The mouth-piece issue is irrelavent and whoever uses that as an excuse is simply in denial.

I've seen plenty fighters throw out their mouthpiece and get extra time when hurt. Most recently Acelino Freitas did this when he fought Corrales. Did the extra time help Popo? Nope.

Bottom line: CORRALES KO'D CASTILLO in 10 of the best and most exciting rounds boxing has ever seen.
Please! It's not denial. I think that if it weren't for the extra 28 seconds Chico wouldn't have won that fight. I think it's wrong, but I don't consider it cheating, either. The blame doesn't lie on the ref, either, as he did what he was supposed to do. Nobody expected Chico to turn it around that quick, not even him.

However, in a rematch, I favor Castillo by TKO. Like I said before, Chico left his fight in the ring and won't be the same...ever! Just like Meldrick Taylor against JC Superstar. Chico will never be the same and won't go to war in a rematch (if he takes the fight, I think he might give up the belt and just move to 140 to avoid the fight).

a great fight these two guys are gonna do it all over again
:)

i don't know if chico wants to re-match castillo right away like the wbc wants him to , if you look at it from a buisness stand point the first fight allready raised his stock big time he can make more money fighting morales than castillo even though his fight with castillo was one of the best ever , because morales is the biggest mexican star right now and corrales risk alot less fighting morales , he can fight morales and if he wins which i think he would re-match castillo either fight would be a mega fight but morales makes him more money. i don't blame chico if he chooses not to fight castillo right now, that fight took alot out of him but he showed what a warrior he is in that fight so no one should question his heart for not wanting a immidiate re-match . even if he gets striped of the belt true boxing fans stop carring about belts and the corrupt organizations along time ago. he fought in one of the best fights ever showed tons of heart took alot of punishment and came out victorious.i don't blame him for doing what is in his best intrest even if its not fighting castillo.

i don't know if chico wants to re-match castillo right away like the wbc wants him to , if you look at it from a buisness stand point the first fight allready raised his stock big time he can make more money fighting morales than castillo even though his fight with castillo was one of the best ever , because morales is the biggest mexican star right now and corrales risk alot less fighting morales , he can fight morales and if he wins which i think he would re-match castillo either fight would be a mega fight but morales makes him more money. i don't blame chico if he chooses not to fight castillo right now, that fight took alot out of him but he showed what a warrior he is in that fight so no one should question his heart for not wanting a immidiate re-match . even if he gets striped of the belt true boxing fans stop carring about belts and the corrupt organizations along time ago. he fought in one of the best fights ever showed tons of heart took alot of punishment and came out victorious.i don't blame him for doing what is in his best intrest even if its not fighting castillo.

First off everyone who is talking about Corrales vs. Morales needs to get that ****ing pipe dream out of their heads...think about it if you were Bob Arum who owns Morales and Castillo and Chico decided too strong arm you and turn down your offer to fight JL again do you think you would turn around and say ok you can fight my cash cow who is much smaller than you...Corrales vs. Morales will never happen and people need to stop talking about it like it is a real possibility cuz it is not.

Secondly how come there are a lot of people who are fine and dandy with the fact that there would be no rematch? People say the first fight was too gruesome...what the **** sport are we watching here? Us cult fans get jipped all of the time and now the greatest fight we have ever seen comes along and we would all be ok if they did not do it again...no way.

Corrales vs. Morales has to be made again, it is an absolute must for the sport...I just can't understand the opposing view that says it is ok for Corrales not to grant Castillo a rematch.

First off everyone who is talking about Corrales vs. Morales needs to get that ****ing pipe dream out of their heads...think about it if you were Bob Arum who owns Morales and Castillo and Chico decided too strong arm you and turn down your offer to fight JL again do you think you would turn around and say ok you can fight my cash cow who is much smaller than you...Corrales vs. Morales will never happen and people need to stop talking about it like it is a real possibility cuz it is not.

Secondly how come there are a lot of people who are fine and dandy with the fact that there would be no rematch? People say the first fight was too gruesome...what the **** sport are we watching here? Us cult fans get jipped all of the time and now the greatest fight we have ever seen comes along and we would all be ok if they did not do it again...no way.

Corrales vs. Morales has to be made again, it is an absolute must for the sport...I just can't understand the opposing view that says it is ok for Corrales not to grant Castillo a rematch.


maybe you mis-understood my post i would love a castillo re-match but i was looking at it from chico's prespective as to why he might not want an immidiate re-match. as far as the morales fight being a pipe dream i disagree boxing is a buisness first and a sport second you think arum cares that morales is smaller than chico all he cares about is the money . morales vs. corrales would be huge on ppv and make arum loads of money more than a castillo re-match . the bottom line for the fight to happen is money as soon as there is enough money on the table arum will make the fight .

maybe you mis-understood my post i would love a castillo re-match but i was looking at it from chico's prespective as to why he might not want an immidiate re-match. as far as the morales fight being a pipe dream i disagree boxing is a buisness first and a sport second you think arum cares that morales is smaller than chico all he cares about is the money . morales vs. corrales would be huge on ppv and make arum loads of money more than a castillo re-match . the bottom line for the fight to happen is money as soon as there is enough money on the table arum will make the fight .

Your telling me that there is a considerable amount more money for Morales v. Corrales then a PAc v. Morales rematch or a MAB v. Morales 4...I bet your right that Corrales brings in a bit more dough...maybe but trust me with Bob Arum it is not all about the money.

If Corrales hangs Arum out too dry by not granting a rematch for his boy Castillo, a rematch by the way that Arum seems dead set on then there is no way he will pin El Terribly in with a fighter who will probably take his head off(plus there is no way Erik could hurt Corrales and ARum knows this), trust me this mythical matchup is just that a myth. Who is the promoter here? Is it Chico or Arum...I will bet every sent I have that it is Arum.

Like the first time I picked Castillo ko 10...

It should have been that way the first time.


And like I picked the first time...Corrales TKO Castillo in 10 :D

I love all this talk about Corrales not being the same after the fight with Castillo. First off for all the talk of fighters not being the same it is rarely the case. After Barrera was smoked by Pacquiao he was not supposed to be the same- but he then turns around and beat Morales. Morales was "not supposed to be the same" after his fight with Barrera, but then he beat Barrera (in principle) in the rematch. He also was not supposed to be the same fighter after he lost to Barrera the second time. But he then went and beat Pacquiao. Speaking of Pacquiao... He was not supposed to be the same fighter after the war with Marquez- but he turns around and has a hell of a fight with Morales. And another thing, Chico has always had a reputation for being able to get up from alot of punishment- and he took a beating when he fought Floyd Mayweather Jr. Another thing that is being forgotten is that Castillo was in the same fight as Corrales, only on the losing end. He was KO'ed for the first time in his career as a matter of fact. Also, don't forget that Castillo is the older fighter of the two of them (by quite a bit) if either of them is more likely to have lasting damage from that fight then it is Castillo. I do think a rematch will happen, and if it does I am also pretty sure that it will be Corrales who has his hands raised in victory. Either that or he is a shot fighter I guess...

I love all this talk about Corrales not being the same after the fight with Castillo. First off for all the talk of fighters not being the same it is rarely the case. After Barrera was smoked by Pacquiao he was not supposed to be the same- but he then turns around and beat Morales. Morales was "not supposed to be the same" after his fight with Barrera, but then he beat Barrera (in principle) in the rematch. He also was not supposed to be the same fighter after he lost to Barrera the second time. But he then went and beat Pacquiao. Speaking of Pacquiao... He was not supposed to be the same fighter after the war with Marquez- but he turns around and has a hell of a fight with Morales. And another thing, Chico has always had a reputation for being able to get up from alot of punishment- and he took a beating when he fought Floyd Mayweather Jr. Another thing that is being forgotten is that Castillo was in the same fight as Corrales, only on the losing end. He was KO'ed for the first time in his career as a matter of fact. Also, don't forget that Castillo is the older fighter of the two of them (by quite a bit) if either of them is more likely to have lasting damage from that fight then it is Castillo. I do think a rematch will happen, and if it does I am also pretty sure that it will be Corrales who has his hands raised in victory. Either that or he is a shot fighter I guess...

You must have missed the post conference when Castillo walked out and said he was ready to fight the rematch that same day. Corrales couldnt walk on his own and had to sit down to talk.
You tell me who the hurt fighter is.
Some people missed that during the fight Corrales wanted to quit since the 8th round, the first he spit his piece and no it wasnt a punch. The only reason Diego won was cause Castillo thaught he had in the fight in the bag already and just ****ed up. He wont be ****ing up this time though.
I must say that this next fight is still a 50/50 possibility.They are so evenly matched its not even funny.
As a big Castillo fan all I ask for is a fair rematch.
Corrales did what he did and won the first fight,FINE I want to see him try to pull some bull**** like that again.
This time the ref isnt gonna baby his ass everytime he decides to take his piece out.

You must have missed the post conference when Castillo walked out and said he was ready to fight the rematch that same day. Corrales couldnt walk on his own and had to sit down to talk.
You tell me who the hurt fighter is.
Some people missed that during the fight Corrales wanted to quit since the 8th round, the first he spit his piece and no it wasnt a punch. The only reason Diego won was cause Castillo thaught he had in the fight in the bag already and just ****ed up. He wont be ****ing up this time though.
I must say that this next fight is still a 50/50 possibility.They are so evenly matched its not even funny.
As a big Castillo fan all I ask for is a fair rematch.
Corrales did what he did and won the first fight,FINE I want to see him try to pull some bull**** like that again.
This time the ref isnt gonna baby his ass everytime he decides to take his piece out.


Amen to that. Rematch.

You must have missed the post conference when Castillo walked out and said he was ready to fight the rematch that same day. Corrales couldnt walk on his own and had to sit down to talk.
You tell me who the hurt fighter is.
Some people missed that during the fight Corrales wanted to quit since the 8th round, the first he spit his piece and no it wasnt a punch. The only reason Diego won was cause Castillo thaught he had in the fight in the bag already and just ****ed up. He wont be ****ing up this time though.
I must say that this next fight is still a 50/50 possibility.They are so evenly matched its not even funny.
As a big Castillo fan all I ask for is a fair rematch.
Corrales did what he did and won the first fight,FINE I want to see him try to pull some bull**** like that again.
This time the ref isnt gonna baby his ass everytime he decides to take his piece out.

First off, I am not saying that Diego wasnt hurt-- he obviously was. But it is not about who was hurt at the time as they both were, but Diego is healing well as is Castillo. I also only saw one person defensless against the ropes in that fight and that was Castillo. The only reason Castillo got knocked out was because he thought he had the fight in the bag? Yeah, I can recall lots of successful fighters not finishing their opponents after they have hit the canvas twice. And secondly, the referee did not baby anybody, he took a point (as the rules say) and blew any chance for a decision that existed. You know what happens the next time if a fighter spits the mouth guard out they are going to take a point, just like they did with Corrales. Nobody is stopping a title fight because a mouth guard was spit out. Finally, I also think it is a really even match-up and have said so over and over again, and I think there is going to be a rematch. But in all honosty I dont care what all the Castillo fans think of who the better fighter is. The record book will always say that on May 7'th Diego Corrales knocked out Joes Luis Castillo in the 10'th round, and that is good enough for me.

Do you remember waht you post before you post again? This is the second time you start blabing your mouth off and dont know what people are trying to answer when they quote you.
You make me really curious to know where your from.
This is what I was refering to.


Also, don't forget that Castillo is the older fighter of the two of them (by quite a bit) if either of them is more likely to have lasting damage from that fight then it is Castillo.

Before you forget this is what you wrote and my answer was to this.. :confused:

Do you remember waht you post before you post again? This is the second time you start blabing your mouth off and dont know what people are trying to answer when they quote you.
You make me really curious to know where your from.
This is what I was refering to.


Also, don't forget that Castillo is the older fighter of the two of them (by quite a bit) if either of them is more likely to have lasting damage from that fight then it is Castillo.

Before you forget this is what you wrote and my answer was to this.. :confused:

That part I get man, but you seem to have trouble reading because that is exactly what I was responding to. I was pointing out that Corrales could very well have healed better then Diego even if he was more hurt at the time. And the other half the **** you said I was responding to HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH MY POST. Like "the ref wont baby Diego again?", that has nothing to do with how either guy has been damaged or has healed. Before you write some other aimless and confused response to mine, step away from the keyboard and actually think about what you want to say.

That part I get man, but you seem to have trouble reading because that is exactly what I was responding to. I was pointing out that Corrales could very well have healed better then Diego even if he was more hurt at the time. And the other half the **** you said I was responding to HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH MY POST. Like "the ref wont baby Diego again?", that has nothing to do with how either guy has been damaged or has healed. Before you write some other aimless and confused response to mine, step away from the keyboard and actually think about what you want to say.

The first part answers your obsurd observation and then I gave my point on should happen. Like I said its not the first time time you post something and then try to put it in a different way.

Listen, this is not worth arguing over, sorry if I misinterpreted what you were saying. Either way, I think Corrales is going to be just as fresh in the second fight as he was during the first and am just wondering when the signs of age are going to kick in for Castillo. I also think that there will be a rematch before the year is out (December perhaps) and all questions will be answered then.

Listen, this is not worth arguing over, sorry if I misinterpreted what you were saying. Either way, I think Corrales is going to be just as fresh in the second fight as he was during the first and am just wondering when the signs of age are going to kick in for Castillo. I also think that there will be a rematch before the year is out (December perhaps) and all questions will be answered then.

No doubt both guys took much punishment.
To me the most hurt fighter in this was Diego, the signs are all there. If rematch happens it will bring Diego flashbacks of the pain he had to endure the first time he will want to quit sooner this time. Like I said Castillo wont **** up this time around.

Castillo could be shot but we have to wait and see, I think he is out for revenge and Ive never seen Castillo get so personal.
The rematch will happen in November if it happens this year.

long live castillo!

You have to be blind, or stupid, to say Corrales would win a rematch. The ONLY reason he won is because of the mouthpiece bull**** he pulled. He would have been knocked the **** out had he not pulled that ****.



sheeit. maybe you can answer this . why didn't castillo jump on corrales when the fight resumed after the second knockdown in that round? he got the benefit of extra seconds rest. was he hurt? corrales knocked him cuckoo.

in an interview goosen made corrales fight iside with castillo. corrales was lucky. in a rematch corrales makes this an easier win. he's more intelligent and listens to his corner.
this will be a different fight.


corrales wanted to go on to bigger money and better matches. but even if he's forced to the rematch castillo diserves it. it will be an easier win for corrales second time around with less fireworks. it shows what heart and confidense corrales has, to want to fight tszyu. i think its bull what one of the previous posters said about corrales mentally breaking down in rematch ,thats stretching it. hell he wants to go on and make a bigger payday fighting a harder fight against tszyu!

sheeit. maybe you can answer this . why didn't castillo jump on corrales when the fight resumed after the second knockdown in that round? he got the benefit of extra seconds rest. was he hurt? corrales knocked him cuckoo.

in an interview goosen made corrales fight iside with castillo. corrales was lucky. in a rematch corrales makes this an easier win. he's more intelligent and listens to his corner.
this will be a different fight.


corrales wanted to go on to bigger money and better matches. but even if he's forced to the rematch castillo diserves it. it will be an easier win for corrales second time around with less fireworks. it shows what heart and confidense corrales has, to want to fight tszyu. i think its bull what one of the previous posters said about corrales mentally breaking down in rematch ,thats stretching it. hell he wants to go on and make a bigger payday fighting a harder fight against tszyu!
You have a good point but maybe he thinks he can beat Tzsu in different way.The only way to beat Castillo is to jump on him early like he did. They didnt want the fight to go to later rounds when Castillo turns into a monster when his opponent is tired is when he turns up the heat. Who knows I see him as traumitized and doesnty want any more of Castillo. The point is they went to war and Corrales even though won came out more injured and mentally broken down than Castillo.
I have no idea if Castillo is shot or not only the rematch will tell the story. I dont think even Castillo knows.

Just remind me guys, who won the fight?

Most of you seem to think that Chico is mentally and physicaly finished - what is this observation based on?

Just remind me guys, who won the fight?

Most of you seem to think that Chico is mentally and physicaly finished - what is this observation based on?
Did you see his body languange during the fight?
He spit it out in the eight purposly and took it with his glove purposly meaning to many people he wanted to quit.
A man that does this for a living should be able to walk the next day on his own, guess what he couldnt. I think that should do it.

Did you see his body languange during the fight?
He spit it out in the eight purposly and took it with his glove purposly meaning to many people he wanted to quit.
A man that does this for a living should be able to walk the next day on his own, guess what he couldnt. I think that should do it.

first off you are very good poster ,but i have to disagree with you that chico wanted to quit , the man has no quit in him mayweather knocked him on his ass 5 times his dad stoped the fight, did you see chico's reaction he wanted to kill his dad for stoping th fight , also against casamayor he was knocked on his ass again like 3 times and cameback to knock casamayor down and started to gain momentum until the doctor stop the fight because of the cut in his mouth did chico act glad the fight was stoped ?? no he wanted to continue . he has shown time and time again he is all heart . he threw the mouth piece to get some more rest , not because he wanted to quit, if that was the case he would of done what freitas did in their fight and say i don't want no more plain and simple .

first off you are very good poster ,but i have to disagree with you that chico wanted to quit , the man has no quit in him mayweather knocked him on his ass 5 times his dad stoped the fight, did you see chico's reaction he wanted to kill his dad for stoping th fight , also against casamayor he was knocked on his ass again like 3 times and cameback to knock casamayor down and started to gain momentum until the doctor stop the fight because of the cut in his mouth did chico act glad the fight was stoped ?? no he wanted to continue . he has shown time and time again he is all heart . he threw the mouth piece to get some more rest , not because he wanted to quit, if that was the case he would of done what freitas did in their fight and say i don't want no more plain and simple .
Hey shemue thx for the compliment! :boxing:
Where do I start... You cant compare the punishment that Castillo dishes out to the punishment that Mayweather and Casamayor bring to the table.There you have the proof, Corrales couldnt walk the next day. Mayweather mostly stunned him and Casamayor doesnt hit as hard and doesnt go to the body like Castillo. Did you listen to Joe Goosen in the corner?
He of all people should know his fighter after spending 11 weeks in camp in preperation for this fight.
In the later rounds all you would hear Goosen say was "Dont quit on me now" "Its all about balls Chico, dont quit on me."I bet anything, had Goosen not been in his corner this fight ends with Diego quiting or Castillo by stoppage.
Joe's sneaky ass had told Corrales about the mouthpiece in between rounds,I think it was 7 going to 8. He says to Diego "Remember the mouthpiece" and Diego nods his head.
This fight was won in part by Diego toughness but it was Joe's smarts that ultimitley gave Chico the victory.

I don't think he wanted to quit Bomber. The 7th round was when Chico landed that monster left hook at the end & JLC's knees buckled & he almost went down. I don't know what kept him up but he was seriously hurt at the end of the round. If anything that probably gave Chico a boost knowing that he was wearing him out.

Hey shemue thx for the compliment! :boxing:
Where do I start... You cant compare the punishment that Castillo dishes out to the punishment that Mayweather and Casamayor bring to the table.There you have the proof, Corrales couldnt walk the next day. Mayweather mostly stunned him and Casamayor doesnt hit as hard and doesnt go to the body like Castillo. Did you listen to Joe Goosen in the corner?
He of all people should know his fighter after spending 11 weeks in camp in preperation for this fight.
In the later rounds all you would hear Goosen say was "Dont quit on me now" "Its all about balls Chico, dont quit on me."I bet anything, had Goosen not been in his corner this fight ends with Diego quiting or Castillo by stoppage.
Joe's sneaky ass had told Corrales about the mouthpiece in between rounds,I think it was 7 going to 8. He says to Diego "Remember the mouthpiece" and Diego nods his head.
This fight was won in part by Diego toughness but it was Joe's smarts that ultimitley gave Chico the victory.

I also heard what you heard with Goosen and was suprised that nobody else caught on to that. I can see how it could be interpreted that Goosen was convincing a fighter who wanted to quit no to, but it could also be that Goosen was just trying to keep his fighter's spirits up in a grueling fight by encouraging him to continue doing what he was doing. In addition to the mouth piece comment I thought it was funny after the second knockdown when Goosen tells him "You gotta ****ing get it done now" (or something along those lines). I really think Goosen is just a straight up great trainer. Where other trainers are spouting stuff like "don't get hit", "keep punching him", and "you gotta want it", Goosen really seams to be conversing and discussing strategy with his fighters. He really just seems to be on a different level with that stuff. Casamayor should never have let Goosen slip away from him because without him I am highly doubtful that my favorite fighter would have been able to pull of the great boxing performance that he did in the rematch with Joel.

I don't think he wanted to quit Bomber. The 7th round was when Chico landed that monster left hook at the end & JLC's knees buckled & he almost went down. I don't know what kept him up but he was seriously hurt at the end of the round. If anything that probably gave Chico a boost knowing that he was wearing him out.

Your right it did give him a boost after he landed that last shot in the 7.
He came out in the 8th very much alive untill the final minute.
If you pay attention after the 5th or so Corrales would win the first part of the round then Castillo would win the end of the round.Diego said it himself,"I quit trying to hurt him after the 7th"The end of the 8th he dropped his mouthpiece purposley.
The ninth was a big round for Castillo and the even tide was turning for Castillo. The tenth Castillo dropped Diego right away and then you know what happened.

What I said about Joe and mentioning the mouthpiece is wrong. I just went back and heard the audio and he does mention it but not the way I thought I had heard it.

this has nothing to do with this post but i have been asking in the lounge for someone to help but no one has ,to get my siganture to work like a step by step because i can't figure it out and i see you have one at the end of your post all i get is a bunch of writing like this .

If you want to get a picture you should click on the little insert image icon next all the text options up top. Either that or you are supposed to wrap the web address of the picture with on one side and on the other. That should do the trick.

The one thing I have trouble with about your interpretation Bomber is that the entire fight had been ebbs and flows in favor of both guys. So I am not sure if after the ninth Chico should have been anymore down then after any other round that Castillo had won. Although that eye was really getting bad.

I bet anything, had Goosen not been in his corner this fight ends with Diego quiting or Castillo by stoppage.

i'd have to disagree. i think diego would seriously not quit until he's dead in the middle of the ring. the guy kept getting dominated and knocked down by mayweather and he almost killed his corner for stopping the fight...

casamayor basically ripped his lips off and he went crazy at the doctor for stopping the fight...

i dont know, i just cant imagine him quitting, no matter how much punishment castillo was dishing out.

I think I will pick Castillo in the rematch. His durability suprised me. I had initially picked Corrales, then Castillo. I think Castillo wins a decision. There were two somewhat fluky things that happened that enabled Corrales to when.

1-Corrales spit out his mouthpiece TWICE to buy recovery time.
2-Corrales caught Castillo with a hail mary punch at the end....

I am not sure if fortune will favor Corrales so much again.

Either way, it was a great fight. The best lightweight fight in the last decade probably.....

i'd have to disagree. i think diego would seriously not quit until he's dead in the middle of the ring. the guy kept getting dominated and knocked down by mayweather and he almost killed his corner for stopping the fight...

casamayor basically ripped his lips off and he went crazy at the doctor for stopping the fight...

i dont know, i just cant imagine him quitting, no matter how much punishment castillo was dishing out.

one more knockdown and goosen would have stopped the fight

one more knockdown and goosen would have stopped the fight

and corrales wouldve gone crazy over it. thats my point. i cant imagine him making the choice to quit a fight.

Exactly, When Corrales Was Dropped 4 The 5th Time And His Dad Stopped The Fight Corrales Almost Punched His Dads Teeth Out

i don't know why corrales taking out the mouth piece is such a big deal for castillo fans , the logic behind this is that chico got extra time to rest and was able to re-cuperate , but castillo also got the same rest!!!! and corrales was still hurt worst than castillo because the 2 knockdowns , castillo did not attack corrales the way he should of and that is what led to him getting tkoed not the spitting of the mouthpiece.

i don't know why corrales taking out the mouth piece is such a big deal for castillo fans , the logic behind this is that chico got extra time to rest and was able to re-cuperate , but castillo also got the same rest!!!! and corrales was still hurt worst than castillo because the 2 knockdowns , castillo did not attack corrales the way he should of and that is what led to him getting tkoed not the spitting of the mouthpiece.
Your missing the point, the hurt guy was given way to much time to recuperate because of something I think is in no way a part of boxing. What is this ****,guys train on how to spit the piece when in trouble now? It is bull and should not be viewed as the right thing. How would that rest period help Castillo it was in the beggining of the round he was well rested already.What led him to get tkoed was that he thaught he had it in the bag and opened up to much. Ive said it before Corrales won FINE but give my boy rematch and dont even think of pulling the same **** again.DQ
You really think corrales would of won had he not pulled that stunt?

one more knockdown and goosen would have stopped the fight
I disagrre if anyone wanted him to continue ti was Goosen.
After he washed his mouth piece he told him some **** like "You better get on him.
This is one thing I liked about Corrales that he listened like a little boy being yelled at by his father.
He was like yes sir and jumped around to continue fighting.
Again Corrales doesnt win this fight had he not pulled that stunt.

I disagrre if anyone wanted him to continue ti was Goosen.
After he washed his mouth piece he told him some **** like "You better get on him.
This is one thing I liked about Corrales that he listened like a little boy being yelled at by his father.
He was like yes sir and jumped around to continue fighting.
Again Corrales doesnt win this fight had he not pulled that stunt.

It sounded like goosen was giving corrales one last chance..he said better get on him now..so if corrales got knocked down again goosen might not have wanted to watch anymore punishment

This was the actual line. After the first knockdown, Goosen was screaming as he put the mouthpiece in "Get inside on him Diego, get inside!!!" Chico stayed out and as a result, Castillo decks him again. As Goosed puts another mouthpiece in Diego's mouth, he came up with THEEE SINGLE FUNNIEST line I've ever heard in this sport:

Disgusted and aloof as if he stopped caring, he sarcastically says in a semi-mocking tone:

"You better get inside on him now..." then just walks away expecting that Diego would just get knock the **** out. lol I was in tears it was so funny.

And to all those people who believe Chico would have an easier time in a rematch by staying on the outside, you got his own trainer telling his fighter to fight inside AFTER BEING KNOCKED DOWN...now why is that? Why would you send a fighter to fight inside when he's hurt. Cuz Castillo was wrecking him when theres a little distance between them with right hands. On the inside, Chico was doing mad amount of damage with his short punches and combinations. Castillo was ripping the body, but Diego banked in with those compact left hooks. He had the superior hand speed. That's what impressed me about Corrales. He was able to do more than hold his own against Castillo inside. But as soon as Castillo takes a step back and gives his right hand some room, Diego started to get cooked. Only way for Corrales to win that fight was on the inside. Same goes for a rematch. Had to get up twice and spit his mouthpiece multiple of times but he got the job done.