View Full Version : GSP makes MMA look bad.


$BloodyNate$
03-28-2010, 02:22 AM
GSP won another lackluster decision. No killer instinct. Backs up what B-Hop thinks about mma being just like gay sex. The best fights were the free prelims on ****e they didn't even show on the pay per view to make it better. Diaz-rory has sick!!! But anyway GSP's on gatorade, Nike, and sport illustraded, and he looks like he's afraid to hurt people.

I love MMA but he's one of their greatest fighters pound for pound, but he puts on the most boring fight of all the last 3 cards he's been on. UFC 94, 100, and now UFC 111. He should have finished Hardy. but Hardy just stared at him at the end of the 1st when he could of unloaded the one time in the fight.

Just a pretty lackluster card, alittle disappointed though. Damn Thiago Alves's stupid physical, that ruined the 2nd most exciting fights on the card between Alves-Fitch, Jake Ellerburger-Saunders that were the best fights on the card from the start IMO. Palaharas was a dickhead though holding onto the submission after the tap. He's a beast though. Bocek-Miller was pretty good though, lots of back and forth excitement just unpopular guys fighting but still good. Pumped for 112 thats gonna be a hell of a card!

whole point of thread is that GSP lacks one of those great traits the great pound for pound fighters had. Not saying theirs guys that could beat him and i understand he fights a style that makes it harder to finish. But in 100 years when people put the best againast each other in the greatest of all time charts, GSP might not be so high because the lack of killer instinct. Glad BJ, Anderson, and Fedor are some of the best P4P fighters too. Just expected more from the UFC poster pretty boy. Just a little disappointed. Title might be a little harsh but it didn't make us look great though.

ny123
03-28-2010, 02:25 AM
GSP won another lackluster decision. No killer instinct. Backs up what B-Hop thinks about mma being just like gay sex. The best fights were the free prelims on ****e they didn't even show on the pay per view to make it better. Diaz-rory has sick!!! But anyway GSP's on gatorade, Nike, and sport illustraded, and he looks like he's afraid to hurt people.

I love MMA but he's one of their greatest fighters pound for pound, but he puts on the most boring fight of all the last 3 cards he's been on. UFC 94, 100, and now UFC 111. He should have finished Hardy. but Hardy just stared at him at the end of the 1st when he could of unloaded the one time in the fight.

Just a pretty lackluster card, alittle disappointed though. Damn Thiago Alves's stupid physical, that ruined the 2nd most exciting fights on the card between Alves-Fitch, Jake Ellerburger-Saunders that were the best fights on the card from the start IMO. Palaharas was a dickhead though holding onto the submission after the tap. He's a beast though. Bocek-Miller was pretty good though, lots of back and forth excitement just unpopular guys fighting but still good. Pumped for 112 thats gonna be a hell of a card!

whole point of thread is that GSP lacks one of those great traits the great pound for pound fighters had. Not saying theirs guys that could beat him and i understand he fights a style that makes it harder to finish. But in 100 years when people put the best againast each other in the greatest of all time charts, GSP might not be so high because the lack of killer instinct. Glad BJ, Anderson, and Fedor are some of the best P4P fighters too. Just expected more from the UFC poster pretty boy. Just a little disappointed. Title might be a little harsh but it didn't make us look great though.

wtf were you doing watching that **** in the first place with all this top level boxing going on? plus that ufc was on ppv :wtf:

one_two_puncher
03-28-2010, 02:28 AM
wtf were you doing watching that **** in the first place with all this top level boxing going on? plus that ufc was on ppv :wtf:

yeah, Technical mastery by GSP. But too much of it is boring.. He could of finished Hardy by stand up and risked a little for the entertainment value of the fans. But oh well,

Left2theliver
03-28-2010, 03:14 AM
Hardy's a fairly good striker in his own right. That's why GSP kept taking him down, yeah, i agree. He could be more active, but it looked to me like he was peppering Hardy with shots and looking for a submission. Hardy's submission defense shocked me though, a lot better than i expected. I think GSP coulda finished it on the ground if he woulda worked more for it, but i think he was looking more for a submisson. Not the most exciting performances by GSP in his last two fights, but ah well, lil far fetched to say it's bad for the sport.

Sammy J
03-28-2010, 03:26 AM
I gained respect for Hardy even after all that.

But GSP still can't finish a ****ing fight. Well, look out for Paul Daley. Daley is the guy to beat GSP.

Left2theliver
03-28-2010, 03:27 AM
I gained respect for Hardy even after all that.

But GSP still can't finish a ****ing fight. Well, look out for Paul Daley. Daley is the guy to beat GSP.

Hahahaha Daley?? Now there's someone who I'm sure GSP would sub.

Sammy J
03-28-2010, 03:28 AM
Hahahaha Daley?? Now there's someone who I'm sure GSP would sub.

I'll talk my **** to the bank. Laugh it up.

kaps
03-28-2010, 03:42 AM
Daley is like Hardy but worse on the ground. GSP should've been doing more GNP instead of looking for the submission. He really let both arm locks go even though he should've just broke his arm. If you don't tap you deserve to have your arm broken IMO...

TheNegation
03-28-2010, 04:07 AM
GSP should have finished the fight. There was no reason why he shouldn't have, but it's not like he didn't try.

And you can't blame GSP for Hardy having non existant takedown defense.

Hardy is weak on the ground and Strong standing up. Logic says take it where he's weak and that was GSP does.

However I don't see how his fight with Penn or Alves was boring and I can't see how you can blame him for not finishing top tier fighters like Alves and Penn who rarely ever get beat.

You can complain all you want about the Hardy fight. GSP should have finished that fight.

$BloodyNate$
03-28-2010, 04:11 AM
GSP should have finished the fight. There was no reason why he shouldn't have, but it's not like he didn't try.

And you can't blame GSP for Hardy having non existant takedown defense.

Hardy is weak on the ground and Strong standing up. Logic says take it where he's weak and that was GSP does.

However I don't see how his fight with Penn or Alves was boring and I can't see how you can blame him for not finishing top tier fighters like Alves and Penn who rarely ever get beat.

You can complain all you want about the Hardy fight. GSP should have finished that fight.

Just never passed on them though. It was mostly guard GNP in the alves fight and holding BJ against the cage IMO. This fight was just painful because he ruled and dominated and advanced in every position but still couldn't finish him. I understand he did what he had to do in the Alves and BJ fights, but im just saying, im a little disappointed the UFC posterboy that represents us in gatorade and nike ads.

kaps
03-28-2010, 04:13 AM
Just never passed on them though. It was mostly guard GNP in the alves fight and holding BJ against the cage IMO. This fight was just painful because he ruled and dominated and advanced in every position but still couldn't finish him. I understand he did what he had to do in the Alves and BJ fights, but im just saying, im a little disappointed the UFC posterboy that represents us in gatorade and nike ads.

He smashed Alves and Penn. WTF fights are you watching? The Hardy fight sucked yeah, but he beat the **** out of everyone else....

$BloodyNate$
03-28-2010, 04:20 AM
Hold on now. Nobody said he didn't smash Alves. I'm just saying he had him guard the whole time GNPing. Didn't pass. And he grinded out BJ too. I wouldn't say they got the **** beat out of them though. he grinded them out and did what he had to do. Just none of his fights are these amazing things they try to hype them up to be all the time. My beef isn't with GSP's ability at all. Mostly with he's the person people probably pay to see the most aside Brock and all the WWE fans he brings in.

No1
03-28-2010, 11:09 AM
GSP should have finished the fight. There was no reason why he shouldn't have, but it's not like he didn't try.

And you can't blame GSP for Hardy having non existant takedown defense.

Hardy is weak on the ground and Strong standing up. Logic says take it where he's weak and that was GSP does.

However I don't see how his fight with Penn or Alves was boring and I can't see how you can blame him for not finishing top tier fighters like Alves and Penn who rarely ever get beat.

You can complain all you want about the Hardy fight. GSP should have finished that fight.
I knwo you hang off gsp's nuts big time but you have to admit, he s boring as **** to watch? If you enjoy a gay erotic film then fine but i for one want to see warriors, I've got more respect for hardy not tapping that i had for gsp last night. He could have beaten hardy on his feet or the floor, but was happy to just lay n pray like normal. He should man the **** up and move up to 185, Silva will goto 205 soon and gsp can challenge the likes of belfort, sonnen and wanderlai silva. I know for sure gsp wont move up though, he wont be able to throw the big guys around and he'll have to fight like a man for once. I for one would love the see him get caught by a vitor belfort straight left lol he'd be out like a light.

TheNegation
03-28-2010, 12:25 PM
I knwo you hang off gsp's nuts big time but you have to admit, he s boring as **** to watch? If you enjoy a gay erotic film then fine but i for one want to see warriors, I've got more respect for hardy not tapping that i had for gsp last night. He could have beaten hardy on his feet or the floor, but was happy to just lay n pray like normal. He should man the **** up and move up to 185, Silva will goto 205 soon and gsp can challenge the likes of belfort, sonnen and wanderlai silva. I know for sure gsp wont move up though, he wont be able to throw the big guys around and he'll have to fight like a man for once. I for one would love the see him get caught by a vitor belfort straight left lol he'd be out like a light.

I don't find him boring, but he should have finished the fight last night. No question about it. But it's not like he didn't try.


Everyone likes something different, sadly though, your perception of his fighting style is extremely twisted.

kaps
03-28-2010, 12:34 PM
I knwo you hang off gsp's nuts big time but you have to admit, he s boring as **** to watch? If you enjoy a gay erotic film then fine but i for one want to see warriors, I've got more respect for hardy not tapping that i had for gsp last night. He could have beaten hardy on his feet or the floor, but was happy to just lay n pray like normal. He should man the **** up and move up to 185, Silva will goto 205 soon and gsp can challenge the likes of belfort, sonnen and wanderlai silva. I know for sure gsp wont move up though, he wont be able to throw the big guys around and he'll have to fight like a man for once. I for one would love the see him get caught by a vitor belfort straight left lol he'd be out like a light.

Watch K-1 dude. MMA is not a sport for you...

Rabbit ♠
03-28-2010, 03:16 PM
I thought it was entertaining. I've been a GSP for many many years and I like his style.

Rabbit ♠
03-28-2010, 03:17 PM
GSP won another lackluster decision. No killer instinct. Backs up what B-Hop thinks about mma being just like gay sex. The best fights were the free prelims on ****e they didn't even show on the pay per view to make it better. Diaz-rory has sick!!! But anyway GSP's on gatorade, Nike, and sport illustraded, and he looks like he's afraid to hurt people.

I love MMA but he's one of their greatest fighters pound for pound, but he puts on the most boring fight of all the last 3 cards he's been on. UFC 94, 100, and now UFC 111. He should have finished Hardy. but Hardy just stared at him at the end of the 1st when he could of unloaded the one time in the fight.

Just a pretty lackluster card, alittle disappointed though. Damn Thiago Alves's stupid physical, that ruined the 2nd most exciting fights on the card between Alves-Fitch, Jake Ellerburger-Saunders that were the best fights on the card from the start IMO. Palaharas was a dickhead though holding onto the submission after the tap. He's a beast though. Bocek-Miller was pretty good though, lots of back and forth excitement just unpopular guys fighting but still good. Pumped for 112 thats gonna be a hell of a card!

whole point of thread is that GSP lacks one of those great traits the great pound for pound fighters had. Not saying theirs guys that could beat him and i understand he fights a style that makes it harder to finish. But in 100 years when people put the best againast each other in the greatest of all time charts, GSP might not be so high because the lack of killer instinct. Glad BJ, Anderson, and Fedor are some of the best P4P fighters too. Just expected more from the UFC poster pretty boy. Just a little disappointed. Title might be a little harsh but it didn't make us look great though.

:lol1::lol1::lol1:

Snopkins
03-28-2010, 06:40 PM
He's been a stinker since his weak chin got cracked.Did you expect anything less than this?




He smashed Alves and Penn. WTF fights are you watching? The Hardy fight sucked yeah, but he beat the **** out of everyone else....



He dominated Alves and Penn.Claiming that he "smashed" them would suggest he did so in an explosive manner.

KESSLER
03-28-2010, 06:46 PM
I don't think he makes MMA look bad. He dominated one of the best welterweights out there, Dan Hardy is just tough as nails. GSP could have broken his arm twice in that fight, and you could see Hardy scream in pain on the replays, but he still never tapped. GSP looked good, and Hardy impressed me with how tough he was.

NuckleHead11
03-28-2010, 07:25 PM
GSP made BJ quit after the 4th round, I guess he didn't smash/finish him.

GSP injured his abductor in the third round against Alves. He went for a few submissions and was engaging him in the stand-up prior to that.

Last night wasn't the most exciting fight, but GSP was going for a finish. He said it himself, he wasn't happy with his performance and he was trying too hard to get a submission. His corner was even telling him, don't pass the guard, just posture up and rain down some GNP.

kaps
03-28-2010, 08:55 PM
Examples of GSP's lay n pray...

http://www.hunglodojo.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/jon-fitch-3.jpg
http://www.blackbeltmag.com/media/originals/02_GSPvsAlves.jpg
http://cdn.cagepotato.com/www/sites/default/files/Penn_GSP_2.jpg

Hotsoup
03-29-2010, 02:27 AM
Your a Pernell Whitaker fan and your chastizing GSP for not finishing fights? Lol.

Rabbit ♠
03-29-2010, 02:32 AM
GSP won another lackluster decision. No killer instinct. Backs up what B-Hop thinks.

:haha::haha::haha:

I'm still laughing at the irony in this statement.

TheNegation
03-29-2010, 02:46 AM
:haha::haha::haha:

I'm still laughing at the irony in this statement.

yeah no ****.

If there is anyone that is painful to watch in boxing it's B-Hop

Spartacus Sully
03-29-2010, 03:57 AM
Really the whole point of combat sports to me is to test your self. i think that any one so continually unwilling to test them selfs in favor of maintaining a perfect record is a disgrace to all combat sports.

$BloodyNate$
03-30-2010, 11:33 PM
Your a Pernell Whitaker fan and your chastizing GSP for not finishing fights? Lol.

Pernell had a sweet slick style to him. But when your obviously ten times better then any other fighter in your division then is finishing a fight too much to ask? Or at least pretend like you want to rip his arm off. he kind of just sat there with his arm in his hand acting like the arm was going to hurt itself.

Im not saying GSP LNP's. But saying he smashed them isn't the truth either. He dominated them but he didn't beat the **** out of them. 2 totally different things. Floyd Mayweather dominated JMM. Pacman beat the **** out of Cotto.

EDIT- APOLOGIZE IN ADVANCE!!! Was in no way trying to start another gay ass Floyd-Manny thread was just contrasting the difference in the victories. So if a pointless gay war between *****'s and *******'s, I apologize.

dookie brown
03-31-2010, 04:03 AM
GSP got that money may style. hes winning these fights so why fix something that aint broke

i3raintwo
03-31-2010, 04:51 AM
Wow that last comment is on the dot. People want to watch GSP fight because he really is amazing compared to the competition and fan want to see if there's anyone out there that can work him.

I'm not at all comparing GSP's and Floyd's boxing when I say this... Floyd's style allows him to neutralize his opponents abilities to a certain extent allowing him to use what hes better at. He could be better then them over all offensively and defensively but its whatever he feels comfortable with and that's what GSP does.

And as for his striking, this is like saying you only like the apples out of the fruit basket... If you don't like/respect the rest then refer to what Kaps said "go watch K-1". It's MMA and do what wins you the fight. Like gambling, you play your odds.

Muzzel
03-31-2010, 07:46 AM
Why should he take that risk? I mean Hardy could get a lucky punch & he learned from the Serra Fight for sure. So all in all the fight was pretty cool and Hardy was just to stupid to tap. Sry but he risked his health there to a point what I don't want to see. If he brakes his shoulder he can say bye bye to the sport. Lucky that nothing happened.