Expectations are high for Saturday's fight, and even though I'm not a particular fan of Ricky Boy's, I AM going to snap up the PPV* for this one.

(* To clarify, it's not PPV in the US, but Limeys have to pay £15 to see it...)


It's the law of unponderables, isn't it? Zoo is widely expected to win, yet Ricky is undefeated. Much of that competition isn't held to be that great, but it does include a win over Vince Phillips, the only man to defeat (and stop) Zoo.

I don't know enough about Zoo to know what his stamina's like - decent, I take it? One thing I will say about Ricky is that I've seen him go 12 rounds banging solidly with no problems. He might not have had much coming back the other way, but he's got no worries about being able to bang for the distance.


Both are men with two arms, two legs, same as any other... either one could potentially be taken out with one shot. Logic seems to suggest that Zoo might KO Ricky early or around the middle rounds... and that the longer it goes, the more chance Hatton will have. Either way it'll be edge-of-your-seat stuff.


But I had a thought the other day. What if...














... what if it's as boring as ****? What if they somehow nullify each other against all expectation? Hatton not wanting to test Zoo's power too greatly, and Zoo realising that the lay-off and injuries have taken something out of him, so holding back? (Remember how the trade papers said Tito was "better than ever" after Mayorga?) What if they just thrust and parry for 12 rounds for a decision? A win for Zoo that sees Hatton either praised for going the distance and fully accepted into the pantheon, or dismissed by a "Zoo must have lost it"? Or a decision for Ricky that many say was a fix?


What if it's DULL?

I didnt read your whole post, only the last sentence...

lets just hope it's not dull:D

A dull fight would suck but it ain't happening. Hatton will take Tszyu out if it goes past 8...

OHH MAN!!! Why did you have to go and put that thought in my head!... LOL!...

I don't think it can be boring for big Ricky Hatton fans like me. Because as a fan I've been waiting for this fight for about 5-6yrs now, and it's the anticipation of it all.

+ This is boxing... And one of the greatest things about it is that it can be all over in a second, and that second could be the 1st or the last. There's always a danger of getting knocked out every second that they're in the ring!

I expect this fight to be a cracker!

I don't think there is any chance this fight is anything other than riveting; the fighters as well as the crowd will see to that...

I predict a fight with multiple knockdowns, one way or the other...it could easily be #2 for fight of the year...

This fight Definitely will not be a sleeper.. I see this fight being explosive with lots of action. The way the two guys fight there is no way that this fight can be a snoozer.

OHH MAN!!! Why did you have to go and put that thought in my head!... LOL!...

I don't think it can be boring for big Ricky Hatton fans like me. Because as a fan I've been waiting for this fight for about 5-6yrs now, and it's the anticipation of it all.

+ This is boxing... And one of the greatest things about it is that it can be all over in a second, and that second could be the 1st or the last. There's always a danger of getting knocked out every second that they're in the ring!

I expect this fight to be a cracker!What if Ricky got hit with a fluke shot in the first few seconds (I call it "fluke" as by previous appearances Hatton's chin is so decent that a one-shot KO is unlikely, if not impossible...) and was KOed? Then, no matter how much he protested it was a one-off, he had to live out the rest of his career being derided?

What if Ricky got hit with a fluke shot in the first few seconds (I call it "fluke" as by previous appearances Hatton's chin is so decent that a one-shot KO is unlikely, if not impossible...) and was KOed? Then, no matter how much he protested it was a one-off, he had to live out the rest of his career being derided?
Well, I would be very gutted if that happened!

It's not impossible either! This is boxing, I've seen stranger **** happen!

What if Ricky got hit with a fluke shot in the first few seconds (I call it "fluke" as by previous appearances Hatton's chin is so decent that a one-shot KO is unlikely, if not impossible...) and was KOed? Then, no matter how much he protested it was a one-off, he had to live out the rest of his career being derided?
Actually I would be MORE than gutted!...

Coz' all those annoying little American kids that post on here would be jumping up and down shouting, "I told you soooooo!!!"

:mad: ____________ :mad: ______________ :mad:

LOL!...

I picture the fight like this, its going to go on the inside, like Corrales/Castillo, than Hatton will overwelm Kostya with powerpunchs, untill the fight is stoped.

Actually I would be MORE than gutted!...

Coz' all those annoying little American kids that post on here would be jumping up and down shouting, "I told you soooooo!!!"

:mad: ____________ :mad: ______________ :mad:

LOL!...

Or they would be like

"Sturmrules I want ma 1 million points" 15 min afta the bout

or

" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, What now beatch" LOL


theres a couple o culprits here up in this joint.

A dull fight would suck but it ain't happening. Hatton will take Tszyu out if it goes past 8...

It won't, though. Tszyu is gonna KO him within six.

I picture the fight like this, its going to go on the inside, like Corrales/Castillo, than Hatton will overwelm Kostya with powerpunchs, untill the fight is stoped.

You mean that Tsyzu is going to knock Ricky down twice, then Ricky's gonna spit his mouthpiece out to gain time, and come back to TKO Tsyzu?

It won't, though. Tszyu is gonna KO him within six.
BadMagick, how confident are you that Tszyu will KO Hatton in six?

If the bell rings and Hatton comes out for the seventh round, you give me 3 million points.

If Hatton never gets to hear the bell for the beginning of the seventh round, I'll give you 1 million points.

Deal?

I believe it's gonna be a FIGHT. The huge crowd will sumway, sumhow influence the fight and Hatton aint gonna go eazy. Hatton will come at Tszyu and Tszyu wont be backin eitha. Lets do this. Hatton by late stoppage or UD!

i thought this **** wasnt PPV?

damn im broke...

i thought this **** wasnt PPV?

damn im broke...
ITS ON SHOWTIME RIGHT?

i thought this **** wasnt PPV?

damn im broke...
Nah man... I think it's on regular showtime in America.

It's only PPV in the UK. :(

Nah man... I think it's on regular showtime in America.

It's only PPV in the UK. :(

oh ok, the original poster said it was PPV, but i didnt realize he was in the UK...good for me then :cool:

i actually believe that hatton takes this one by a close majority decision, then everyone is going to say it was a robbery etc.

wait and see

oh ok, the original poster said it was PPV, but i didnt realize he was in the UK...good for me then :cool:

Bad for me, and anyone without cable. I need to find someone with Showtime, pronto!

i actually believe that hatton takes this one by a close majority decision, then everyone is going to say it was a robbery etc.

wait and see
I hope it doesn't come to a majority decsion!... I can hear it now, :rolleyes: "Try to get a decsion in the UK!... Worse than GERMANY!!!"

... LOL!...

I kinda expect it'll be an exciting fight, but mostly from Hatton's camp. This is Ricky's step up to the big stage and I think his camp knows a KO of Kostya would be a HUGE incentive for Hatton to break into the US market.

The american PPV circuit is all about bloody warfests and the more hurt you can put out, the more the public will love you (and pay you).

This fight could very well be dull, due to Tszyu's superior boxing skills. It could be Tszyu/Tackie 2 - a masterful performance, but one for Tszyu fans only. The difference with this one & the Tackie fight, though, may be that Hatton cuts & has been knocked down by a less than huge punch.

This fight could very well be dull, due to Tszyu's superior boxing skills. It could be Tszyu/Tackie 2 - a masterful performance, but one for Tszyu fans only. The difference with this one & the Tackie fight, though, may be that Hatton cuts & has been knocked down by a less than huge punch.

He got knocked down 5 years ago and it was flash

it didnt even hurt him..

He got knocked down 5 years ago and it was flash

it didnt even hurt him..

It was 3 years ago, by a relatively light puncher who for some bizarre reason, didn't follow up, and didn't follow up when he hurt Hatton in the 2nd, either.

I picture the fight like this, its going to go on the inside, like Corrales/Castillo, than Hatton will overwelm Kostya with powerpunchs, untill the fight is stoped.
I dont know if he can do that t Kosta , HE is pretty tough
I see it the other way around

I am hoping for anything BUT a decision..

I can see Tszyu getting shafted :(

He better know that and pound 'Ol Ricky till he falls :D

He will. Hatton will pridefully be right there but not in his right mind after catching a bomb and ... it's over.

The only man who can bet Kosta is ......( DRum Roll )




The Future of the Welter Weight Division ZAB JUDAH !!!

hahahah, good one super, zab has no chance, he knows that better than anyone, kostya has his number, he`d repeat the knock out in style again, it was power, but he timed the zab shuffle....and BANG.....kostya wins an exciting fight this weekend in less than 6...ko

oh ok, the original poster said it was PPV, but i didnt realize he was in the UK...good for me then :cool:Apologies, I'll amend the post to avoid confusion.

I had not really seen much of either Tszyu of Hatton until relatively recently when I downloaded a bunch of thier fights....Hatton's wrok rate is INCREDIBLE..Tszyu has really good power and good voxing skills but I give Hatton a better chance than Taylor has for B-Hop...As long as he can take Tszyu's power or nullify it I think he wins on volume...I don't think that letting it go to the scorecards would be a good idea for Tszyu because he'll probably be outworked most of the fight and it is in Manchester at 2am..which is completely insane by the way...wish I could watch it live..no showtime :( and none of the bars are showing it.....

The only man who can bet Kosta is ......( DRum Roll )




The Future of the Welter Weight Division ZAB JUDAH !!!

Tszyu KO 2 Judah, that ring a bell? He didnt do his little drunken baby giraffe dance by himself ya know

hey buddy
(anorak)
whats the number to call the get it on ppv i cant find it
any help would be appreciated

hey buddy
(anorak)
whats the number to call the get it on ppv i cant find it
any help would be appreciated
Here fella - click on this link:

http://www.skysports.com/skysports/article/0,,1521-1178421,00.html#booking

If you have ntl, then ring 0800 052 2000

It's the law of unponderables, isn't it? Zoo is widely expected to win, yet Ricky is undefeated. Much of that competition isn't held to be that great, but it does include a win over Vince Phillips, the only man to defeat (and stop) Zoo.

Hi Anorak. I think you mean intangibles. Everything is ponderable. Yes, Hatton beat Phillips, but then Marciano beat Louis and Tyson beat Holmes and Toney dropped Holyfield. When a fighter is spent and keeps stepping through the ropes, inferior fighters will beat him, ask Terry Norris about beating hell out of Ray Leonard. It happens.

I don't know enough about Zoo to know what his stamina's like - decent, I take it?


Respectfully, how can you NOT know anything about Tzsyu? He is near the end of his reign, he is the most highly visible 140 pounder in the world and has been well known to the boxing public since his amateur days in the old USSR. He has beaten the top fighters his division had to offer for many years.

One thing I will say about Ricky is that I've seen him go 12 rounds banging solidly with no problems. He might not have had much coming back the other way, but he's got no worries about being able to bang for the distance.

Sure he does. Remember the unponderables? He gets tagged by Tzsyu, he's going to have all kinds of "worries." If a relatively unheralded Irishman can drop Hatton with a counter left hook off the ropes, and Tzsyu can nail the ultra-elusive Zab Judah with a crunching right, expect Hatton to be exposed and hurt early in the fight.

The only true intangible in Hatton's favor is the same intangible he's enjoyed when beating people like Phillips. They get old, and he moves in and beats up on old men. Tzsyu could get old. Roy Jones seemed to get old overnight. Some fighters like Walcott or Hopkins take a long time to fade, some are spent by 26, like Sean O'Grady. This is the only way Hatton wins. Just be glad he's not fighting Floyd Mayweather in Manchester. Mayweather would beat him to a bloody pulp.

Both are men with two arms, two legs, same as any other... either one could potentially be taken out with one shot. Logic seems to suggest that Zoo might KO Ricky early or around the middle rounds... and that the longer it goes, the more chance Hatton will have. Either way it'll be edge-of-your-seat stuff.

Across the pond, it will be, but here in the USA or Down Under it will be another day at the office for Tzsyu. It would be nice if your guy won. Not that I like him any, I like the Thunder From Down Under. But Hatton has fought hard every fight and keeps a tight lip and it's hard not to want him to get a reward for that. Tzsyu has to lose sooner or later, and as you age, the sooner becomes more likely than the later.

...what if it's as boring as ****?

I don't think that's possible with Hatton. He can fight only one way, coming forward. And once the Russian figures out how easily Hatton can be hurt, he'll bomb him hard with shots to the body and then up to the head. It's the standard Tzsyu attack plan, and Hatton should have no answer for it.

What if... this is really a gross mismatch and Tszyu knocks out hatton early. We don't need a what if for that.. that's actually quite easy to imagine.

hey buddy
(anorak)
whats the number to call the get it on ppv i cant find it
any help would be appreciatedHi mate - I see Martin has already answered, but if you check on SKY page 770 all the details are there.

Hi Anorak. I think you mean intangibles. Everything is ponderable. Yes, Hatton beat Phillips, but then Marciano beat Louis and Tyson beat Holmes and Toney dropped Holyfield. When a fighter is spent and keeps stepping through the ropes, inferior fighters will beat him, ask Terry Norris about beating hell out of Ray Leonard. It happens.:) You got me there, I did mean intangibles. Late night, but no excuse. :) I actually like being pulled up by that, because it's nice to have someone on here who would pick up on it. There are others who would, but, you know...

And yeah, I agree with you - I threw it up for debate, but I don't always believe in triangular logic.


Respectfully, how can you NOT know anything about Tzsyu? He is near the end of his reign, he is the most highly visible 140 pounder in the world and has been well known to the boxing public since his amateur days in the old USSR. He has beaten the top fighters his division had to offer for many years.I'd say it's only been the last couple of years where I've REALLY gotten into boxing in a major way, though I'd always followed it casually. Boxing is a minority sport in the UK now (though that looks set to change again in the coming year with more TV companies behind it) and the lower weights never garner much attention.

I don't think that's possible with Hatton. He can fight only one way, coming forward. And once the Russian figures out how easily Hatton can be hurt, he'll bomb him hard with shots to the body and then up to the head. It's the standard Tzsyu attack plan, and Hatton should have no answer for it.As I say, I'm not a massive Hatton fan, but I do seem to remember he boxed a little more in his bout against Tackie. I'll certainly be interested to see what he does on Saturday night.

ok thanks guys
i,ll get right on it
cant wait till sat
cheers!!

Logic is, on this site anyhow, if Hatton wins then people will say Tsyzu is shot, old, rusty etc... if Tsyzu wins then hatton was a bum all along. But.........Tsyzu said he was in the best shape and was ready so if Hatton does pull it off, NO EXCUSES!!!!

If Ricky Hatton fans are looking for something to build confidence in that their guy will win then look no further than ZOO-URKAL fight.

Urkal fought with a very similiar style to Hatton. He used constant motion from side to side, threw a consistent jab and jumped in with his punches and tied Zoo up in the inside. I see Hatton fighting very similiar to Urkal, just better...

I'd pick Hatton to win but I'm just not convinced he can take the heat Zoo will bring by way of that right hand.

Actually, I've remembered why I started this thread now. It was the first time I watched Hatton - against Ben Tackie. Even in the twelfth Hatton was trading when he was well ahead and most would have just avoided him to get the points. Ricky's manager was going ape as he took a shot on the jaw off Tackie in the last few moments of the bout, almost tearing his hair out at Ricky still putting himself under risk to satisfy the crowd and his boxing instinct.


Now imagine Hatton was way ahead on points against Zoo... there's surely no way he'd be allowing Zoo the same opportunity to bang him flush on the jaw?

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