View Full Version : does taylor hav a chance


riz
05-31-2005, 04:29 PM
i like taylor, but can he really beat hopkins?
ur thoughts....

sisforshaq
05-31-2005, 04:38 PM
yeah i belive he can, Hopkins may have the experience but Taylor is a great boxer with a lot fkills and he has youth, hunger for the title, hes the total package. Should be good fight, im routing for Taylor

SacTown1
05-31-2005, 04:38 PM
i like taylor, but can he really beat hopkins?
ur thoughts....
If B-Hop starts to show some signs of aging (slower fists & reflexes, poor foot movement, etc) then Taylor has a great chance, if B-Hop continues to improve and stay sharp, then Taylor will lose 11 outta 12 rounds or so and Bernard will remain the 160 pound king

Tha Greatest
05-31-2005, 04:39 PM
If B-Hop starts to show some signs of aging (slower fists & reflexes, poor foot movement, etc) then Taylor has a great chance, if B-Hop continues to improve and stay sharp, then Taylor will lose 11 outta 12 rounds or so and Bernard will remain the 160 pound king
agreeed my man

Riptor
05-31-2005, 04:43 PM
you guys summed it up.

oldgringo
05-31-2005, 04:45 PM
7-4-1 Hopkins by fairly close decision.

Hopkins has faced a lot of good fighters...Taylor hasn't. Case closed...

bfg
05-31-2005, 04:49 PM
If Taylor gets mind-****ed by Hopkins he'lllose a one-sided decision....If he manages to stay cool and confident he has a good chance....I see Hopkins winning a boring fight though.

jchavez12345
05-31-2005, 06:09 PM
I think it might be a very difficult fight for taylor but i will be hoping he wins. I guess we will see who wins.

SacTown1
05-31-2005, 06:20 PM
If Taylor gets mind-****ed by Hopkins he'lllose a one-sided decision....If he manages to stay cool and confident he has a good chance....I see Hopkins winning a boring fight though.
"mind-****ed" might be the best all-time description I've ever heard on this site, great use of your words my brother :) and it makes sense, B-Hop definitely mind-****ed Tito, just like the Prince used to do to all of his opponents, until he ran into Marco who didn't speak English at the time and didn't understand his insults :)

Martin (Top Knowledge)
05-31-2005, 06:21 PM
I think Hopkins will win this one quite easily...

If there's one thing I know about Bernard Hopkins, it's that he only takes fights he KNOWS he can win.

Hence the reason he won't fight Calzaghe/Wright.

Hopkins ain't stupid, he'll have done his homework on this boy and will drag out a UD.

MrUnstoppable
05-31-2005, 06:23 PM
The main reason Jermain has a chance is because of the EA Sports video game cover jinx.

SacTown1
05-31-2005, 06:25 PM
The main reason Jermain has a chance is because of the EA Sports video game cover jinx.
YES I completely forgot about the Jinx!!!!! It got Culpepper, George, Faulk, Roy Jones, and B-Hop is the next victim.....only Ray Lewis was tough enough to avoid the jinx :)

Manny_P
05-31-2005, 06:32 PM
I think Hopkins will win this one quite easily...

If there's one thing I know about Bernard Hopkins, it's that he only takes fights he KNOWS he can win.

Hence the reason he won't fight Calzaghe/Wright.

Hopkins ain't stupid, he'll have done his homework on this boy and will drag out a UD.

but then, who goes in the ring sayin o thinkin that HE WONT WIN?

I dunno, but fo me, I believe that Taylor has been workin hard to get a fight wit Bernard. This is what he wants, and it'll be hard fo B-Hop stoppin a fighta that is betta than his recent oppositions.

cvt
05-31-2005, 06:35 PM
i believe he does have a chance...although it's going to be quite tough as hopkins is very ring savvy. he clinches and hits at the break, he spins you, holds your neck and hits,...he's got all the neat (and dirty) tricks in the book.

i think the best weapon taylor has is his youth and his jab. the kid has a decent thudding jab and if he gets into a tempo he might steal some rounds from b-hop. jermain just needs to be 'smart' about throwing the jab though as hopkins is notorious for throwing counter lead right hands...

Floydmayweather
05-31-2005, 06:44 PM
i believe he does have a chance...although it's going to be quite tough as hopkins is very ring savvy. he clinches and hits at the break, he spins you, holds your neck and hits,...he's got all the neat (and dirty) tricks in the book.

i think the best weapon taylor has is his youth and his jab. the kid has a decent thudding jab and if he gets into a tempo he might steal some rounds from b-hop. jermain just needs to be 'smart' about throwing the jab though as hopkins is notorious for throwing counter lead right hands...

Taylor has a great jab its hard and fast. Also i think the fact that Taylor comes is much stronger and bigger than Hopkins he wont be able to use his usually tactics. I see Hopkins getting ****y and getting hit with a big shot and than Taylor will jump on him. Late Ko for Taylor.

ghetto passport
05-31-2005, 07:46 PM
Youth will be served when Taylor steps into the ring to fight Hopkins. I think Taylor represents the next great African American superstar in boxing.

I think he has all the physical tools to handle Hopkins and his power is definitely greater than Hopkins'. I look for Taylor to win a close but clear decision.

riz
05-31-2005, 07:46 PM
gona be a close fight IMO, but hopkins wiilll win... but still show that taylor will riule the division one day

NiGe2011
05-31-2005, 08:44 PM
Jermain Taylor is a very talented young fighter who is going to be the middleweight champion someday. So does he have a chance to beat Hopkins? Of course he does, probably a better one then most guys who have gotten in there with the Executioner did! But do I think he is going to win? No I don't, I think Hopkins is too crafty and still too skilled even at forty years young.

Slipx
05-31-2005, 09:16 PM
everyone thinks hopkins fights are so boring.like the guy 2 or 3 posts before this one.and so many other posters.

he entertains me the most, heh. i get a real kick out of the little things, like the look of hopelessness on Eastman's face after nard peppered him with a left jab,then switched over to southpaw and peppered him with a few right jabs,then switched back to conventional with a 'i just pwnd u' smirk,all within a matter of 8-10 seconds.the look on eastmans face was priceless, things like that amuse me more than any knockout ever

Memorex
05-31-2005, 09:19 PM
Hey Can Any Of Yall See Hopkins Getting Rocked Or Maybe Knocked Down By Taylor? I Was Thinking About That Yesterday And I Would Be Shocked As Hell If It Happened.

MrUnstoppable
05-31-2005, 09:28 PM
YES I completely forgot about the Jinx!!!!! It got Culpepper, George, Faulk, Roy Jones, and B-Hop is the next victim.....only Ray Lewis was tough enough to avoid the jinx :)

Don't forget the biggest jinx of them all...Michael Vick!

riz
05-31-2005, 10:37 PM
well hopkins did beat eastman, its usually early in the year when there scrwed.

MrUnstoppable
05-31-2005, 10:42 PM
Hopkins beat Eastman before the game came out if I am not mistaken.

borikua
05-31-2005, 10:49 PM
I got my money on Taylor....

+= El Jefe=+
05-31-2005, 10:57 PM
i like taylor, but can he really beat hopkins?
ur thoughts....
im roothing for b-hop
but Jermaine has more than a chance.

Bad Intentions
06-01-2005, 03:17 AM
I think Taylor will make Hopkins look old (which he is). I believe he will knock Hopkins out.

bfg
06-01-2005, 03:32 AM
I think Taylor will make Hopkins look old (which he is). I believe he will knock Hopkins out.


I could see Taylor winning but not by KO...seems Hopkins is too careful these days to get caught with anything dangerous from Taylor....If Taylor keeps the jab on Hopkins he may be able to scratch out a SD....Hopkins is a tough nut to crack.

realheavyhands
06-01-2005, 03:38 AM
the old ass man will kill him..taylor better watch that left hook when he throw his jab to the jaw specially the when he block the jaw the body open.. hopkins give so many angles he will move to the right slipping the jab and then throw right hand bombs turn out and be back safe again..if nard do thoe 2 thing there nuffin taylor can do ..

Martin (Top Knowledge)
06-01-2005, 06:16 AM
everyone thinks hopkins fights are so boring.like the guy 2 or 3 posts before this one.and so many other posters.

he entertains me the most, heh. i get a real kick out of the little things, like the look of hopelessness on Eastman's face after nard peppered him with a left jab,then switched over to southpaw and peppered him with a few right jabs,then switched back to conventional with a 'i just pwnd u' smirk,all within a matter of 8-10 seconds.the look on eastmans face was priceless, things like that amuse me more than any knockout ever
Slipx Man!.... That's the crap side of boxing!

Hopkins didn't come to fight... He came to run, and run run run. I don't believe that's what this sport is suppossed to be about.

Slipx, I would say from you comment above that you're more of a fan of the boxers than the sport itself.

Shaolin Bushido
06-01-2005, 08:38 AM
Slipx Man!.... That's the crap side of boxing!

Hopkins didn't come to fight... He came to run, and run run run. I don't believe that's what this sport is suppossed to be about.

Slipx, I would say from you comment above that you're more of a fan of the boxers than the sport itself.
Hmm, all I can say is that you must love tough man contests. Boxing isn't all about who's the strongest or fastest or even who has the best chin or most heart ... it also has to do with who has the most skill!

Answer me this and think before you post ... is there any doubt in your mind who won the Hopkins-Eastman fight?*punches in martinwbc to my IGNORE list*

any at all?*finger hovers over the "submit" button.*

simeraksou
06-01-2005, 09:02 AM
i like taylor, but can he really beat hopkins?
ur thoughts....
It's very possible that taylor wins. Hopkins has been looking worse and worse in his recent fights.

Martin (Top Knowledge)
06-01-2005, 09:10 AM
Hmm, all I can say is that you must love tough man contests. Boxing isn't all about who's the strongest or fastest or even who has the best chin or most heart ... it also has to do with who has the most skill!

Answer me this and think before you post ... is there any doubt in your mind who won the Hopkins-Eastman fight?

Any at all? *punches in martinwbc to my IGNORE list and finger hovers over the "submit" button.*
OH NO!... OH NO!... Please don't put me on you ignore list!!!

There is a big difference between defensive elusive fighting and just plain running!

I know Hopkins won the fight against Eastman, but the way he went about his business didn't make me think of a greatly skilled fighter, It reminded me why I shouldn't waste my money on Bernard Hopkins fights. He had no intention of knocking Eastman out, he wouldn't let himslef get that close. He was scared of tarnishing his drery 20 IBF title defences and came just to survive 12 rounds, pick up his cheque and leave.

I'm paying to watch him fight, It's a portion of my PPV money that'll end up in his pocket and after saying that he'd "Kill Eastman this, and kill Eastman that" on the night he didn't want to fight.

I felt cheated out of £15.00

30stonegorilla
06-01-2005, 09:29 AM
If B-Hop starts to show some signs of aging (slower fists & reflexes, poor foot movement, etc) then Taylor has a great chance

Hi Sactown. Hopkins started showing these signs several years ago, just like Archie Moore did in his day. The difference between these fighters and other fighters who age more quickly is they have learned so much and understand the game so well they are actually better than in their physical prime. In his physical prime Walcott lost to the likes of Tiger Jack Fox, but past his physical prime he actually beat Louis, although Louis was given the decision, and beat Charles with my all time favorite lights-out left hook. But even Walcott aged eventually.

if B-Hop continues to improve and stay sharp,

B-Hop could be sharp, but he will not continue to improve. He has already slipped from the fighter who dominated Trinidad.

...then Taylor will lose 11 outta 12 rounds or so and Bernard will remain the 160 pound king

B-Hop is the favorite, but no way does Taylor lose 11 out of 12 rounds to ANY fighter on the planet, including heavyweights. He is just too skilled a boxer.

The problem for Hopkins is he no longer has the "Executioner" power he displayed early in his careeer, for whatever reason. So he will have to out-hustle and out-think a slick, young, hungry boxer who doesn't know what defeat really tastes like.

I like Taylor in this fight by a decision. On paper it is an upset, but in reality I don't think it is.

I just wish I could bring myself to like Taylor like I like B-Hop. But I can't.

Jimmy

Shaolin Bushido
06-01-2005, 10:21 AM
Martin, after the 8th round he put as bad a beating on Eastman as he's ever had, landing left hook after left hook straight in his face. The truth is that Eastman was taken to the deep water ... and drowned like a sack of kittens. He was worn out and confused and some people call that setting your man up.

Seems like you blaming BHop for not entertaining you is just you having sour grapes cause your boy, Eastman wasn't up to the task and got his ass whooped.

You spent your money. It's your fault you spent it unwisely, not BHop's.

If you weren't entertained by that fight be smart ... don't waste it on Hopkins/Taylor either.

You'll likely be disappointed again.

manila_assasin
06-01-2005, 10:41 AM
i like taylor, but can he really beat hopkins?
ur thoughts....

Yes he can and the keyword "YOUTH" "hunger". I think Hopkins is nearing the end of the line.

Shaolin Bushido
06-01-2005, 11:03 AM
OH NO!... OH NO!... Please don't put me on you ignore list!!!

There is a big difference between defensive elusive fighting and just plain running!

I know Hopkins won the fight against Eastman, but the way he went about his business didn't make me think of a greatly skilled fighter, It reminded me why I shouldn't waste my money on Bernard Hopkins fights. He had no intention of knocking Eastman out, he wouldn't let himslef get that close. He was scared of tarnishing his drery 20 IBF title defences and came just to survive 12 rounds, pick up his cheque and leave.

I'm paying to watch him fight, It's a portion of my PPV money that'll end up in his pocket and after saying that he'd "Kill Eastman this, and kill Eastman that" on the night he didn't want to fight.

I felt cheated out of £15.00
Hahaha, "cheated"? What happened? Somebody charge you to dial up your service and order the damn ppv?

Btw, why do you have Lennox Lewis under a banner about British boxing?

He's Canadian. Or is it Jamaican? Anyway, go ahead and fix that will ya?

Don't want anyone to think you're frontin or nothin. Don't mention it, bro.

Shaolin Bushido
06-01-2005, 11:09 AM
Yes he can and the keyword "YOUTH" "hunger". I think Hopkins is nearing the end of the line.
Guys ... Taylor is VERY basic ... elementary even. Hopkins will have him figured out before they even enter the ring while Taylor will try to bumrush him for a few rounds, maybe hold his own a bit before realizing he's missing, getting hit and doesn't have a plan B.

If you thought Eastman was lost, baffled and confused ... wait til you see Taylor.

Humbled and humiliated come to mind when considering his prospects.

Hopkins is getting old, not stupid.

DR. FREECLOUD
06-01-2005, 11:44 AM
does a bear **** in the woods? of course he has a chance. anytime someone steps into the ring they have a chance. now if taylor just kinda stands back and waits on b-hop to attack and taylor beats him to the punch then he can win. i mean we are talking about maybe 2-3 punches a round. hopkins is smart but extremely boring to watch.

ghetto passport
06-01-2005, 11:49 AM
Guys ... Taylor is VERY basic ... elementary even. Hopkins will have him figured out before they even enter the ring while Taylor will try to bumrush him for a few rounds, maybe hold his own a bit before realizing he's missing, getting hit and doesn't have a plan B.

If you thought Eastman was lost, baffled and confused ... wait til you see Taylor.

Humbled and humiliated come to mind when considering his prospects.

Hopkins is getting old, not stupid.

I couldn't disagree more. First of all, Eastman was a second rate Middleweight. He was stiff as hell, couldn't fight going backwards, weak jab, slow and easily confused (see joppy fight).

Taylor is much more athletic than Eastman, has a much better jab, more power and is not robotic. Also, Taylor knows how to mix his punches up very well and just about every one of his punches has "BAD INTENTIONS" on them.

I can see Hopkins stinking the arena out by sitting back and counterpunching and holding all night long, but if he tries to bring the fight to Taylor he'll get a beating like no other.

Martin (Top Knowledge)
06-01-2005, 12:40 PM
Hahaha, "cheated"? What happened? Somebody charge you to dial up your service and order the damn ppv?

Btw, why do you have Lennox Lewis under a banner about British boxing?

He's Canadian. Or is it Jamaican? Anyway, go ahead and fix that will ya?

Don't want anyone to think you're frontin or nothin. Don't mention it, bro.
Cheated in that I paid for a fight and instead got to see some old guy scared, running in the opposite direction all night.

They told me before that I was paying to watch a fight? :eek: I paid the money but I never got to see a fight. :(

p.s... Lennox Lewis was born and grew up in Brixton, London.

Martin (Top Knowledge)
06-01-2005, 12:45 PM
Martin, after the 8th round he put as bad a beating on Eastman as he's ever had, landing left hook after left hook straight in his face. The truth is that Eastman was taken to the deep water ... and drowned like a sack of kittens. He was worn out and confused .and some people call that setting your man up.

Seems like you blaming BHop for not entertaining you is just you having sour grapes cause your boy, Eastman wasn't up to the task and got his ass whooped. You spent your money. It's your fault you spent it unwisely, not BHop's."

If you weren't entertained by that fight be smart ... don't waste it on Hopkins/Taylor either.

You'll likely be disappointed again.
Listen to the words you use... LOL!... You crack me up... :D

"The truth is that Eastman was taken to the deep water ... and drowned like a sack of kittens. He was worn out and confused .and some people call that setting your man up.

There are ways to describe the Hopkins vs Eastman fight... But this is the funniest lot I've heard so far!

I think you should watch the fight again... LOL!...