the politics, the politics!

the reason why the klitschkos where let in to fight for the titles in the us where not only german finance backers..

it was simply because the klits support the new regim in ukraine - the new western oriented regime that favours slacker ties to russia.

so, the klits got a title and ukraine was soo proud and the klits got to play some intricate pat in the latest revolution over there.

if it hadent been for their strategic interests the us would never permit some forrigner to hold them belts - its all about propaganda - politics - moral in iraq - jew name it.. :D

this only goes to prove that ruiz-valuev isent going to happen - its pretty ****ing far from happening, especially outside the us - where cia/fbi/don-fda cant mess with them waterbottles of the challenging atlethe. :D

the last thing the american world would SEEM to need to is some nationalistic and unbeatable rusian beer / white sibirian tiger - throwing the homeboys around like toydolls in a cage..

thats on the surface of things - maybe the german financiers has found some venue - everybody can be bought in the land of dollars - maybe even don king?

but as i said - something or some misfortunate event will most prob occur and dwarf the sport back into its wwf type credibility
and homeboy entertainment value..

**** you are a loser.........when did the cold war end? you should ask yourelf!!!

why would kostya tszyu fight in the states all the time then........he is russian too...

hes an aussie now - difference, yes?

and should i ask my elf..?

please, stun the world with your brains mooch. :)

..just in from the conspirologist central..

or are they planning on pulling off "a ukraine" in mother russia!!?

using valuev for one of their sock puppets - the guy is allready labouring for the glory of germany, and for the right amount og cash - its concevable hed sell his soul even to the devil!

i dont know the political sympathies of valuev, if some, just swinging in the dark here. :cool:

i can see it allready - the superlikeable khodorkhowsky, former head of jewkos oil will be freed and placed as the revolutionary new presidential candidate. talk about democrazy. its the new oligarch world order! :D

****face..........i am an aussie too............tszyu is an aussie also, but of russian origin and came to aussie as an adult...so he is a russian australian.

****face..........i am an aussie too............tszyu is an aussie also, but of russian origin and came to aussie as an adult...so he is a russian australian.

yes.. and we knew this..

valuev, is he aussie too? or is he maybe a russian citizen.., representing the great russian might..? :)

valuev had the chance to become an aussie but he moved on............did u know this ******? if not, read his record...

valuev had the chance to become an aussie but he moved on............did u know this ******? if not, read his record...

do you mean boxing record?

has he applied for any forreign citizenships?

wfatt do you know?

had the chance to become an aussie, thats a good one.. oh, martha! hold me!

Many foreigners have held titles at various weight classes, and have won and defended them in the states, if Valuev can prove he is worthy then he will fight for a title. As of right now, he has beaten one noteworthy opponent who was stopped in one round by a past it tyson, KO'd by Calvin Brock in what round 5? If you look back far enough, he was knocked down like 5 or 6 times by Fres Quendo en route to yes another KO loss. I like Valuev, but he needs to, or should I say his management neds to put a rush on his career before it's too late.

Many foreigners have held titles at various weight classes, and have won and defended them in the states, if Valuev can prove he is worthy then he will fight for a title. As of right now, he has beaten one noteworthy opponent who was stopped in one round by a past it tyson, KO'd by Calvin Brock in what round 5? If you look back far enough, he was knocked down like 5 or 6 times by Fres Quendo en route to yes another KO loss. I like Valuev, but he needs to, or should I say his management neds to put a rush on his career before it's too late.

you are misinformed and ignorant.

i wish you the best of times in the gap between now and the time youll, by natures quick necessety, fall down a long staircaise or get run over by a car.

nice knowing you dude, bye!

Interesting comments. I never thought about it that way. You might be correct, there is alot of really shady stuff that goes on behind the scenes.

I never thought about all that political stuff before. For him to have 41 fights and not have a title shot yet is rediculous. Someone must be holding him back, but why???

What is the jewish connection you speak of? How is it related?

Did you see the thread I made about N. Valuev.

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36781&page=1&pp=10&highlight=Valuev

He is becoming a very famous person all over the place.

Interesting comments. I never thought about it that way. You might be correct, there is alot of really shady stuff that goes on behind the scenes.

I never thought about all that political stuff before. For him to have 41 fights and not have a title shot yet is rediculous. Someone must be holding him back, but why???

What is the jewish connection you speak of? How is it related?

jewish connection - not sure i made one.. oh! you mean the middle east? :D

there we have the evangelical christans/jewish connection, preoccupying themselves with the safety of israel.

jewish connection.. you tell me joe, how do you suppose there could be one?

Wittmann, what have you been taking?

great...

now we have more conspiracy bs...

how about valuev not getting a title shot cos he beat nobodies?

oh yes and then there is the great plot of jewish ppl against the world, and they use the black ppl against the white.

Jake Blues: "I hate Illinois Nazi"

great...

now we have more conspiracy bs...

how about valuev not getting a title shot cos he beat nobodies?

oh yes and then there is the great plot of jewish ppl against the world, and they use the black ppl against the white.

Jake Blues: "I hate Illinois Nazi"

great!

one-liners from films we liked..

nothing punctures a conspiracy debate like that..

hasta lavista, baby. :)

Roman Greenberg invades Las Vegas
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June 11 show at Plaza Hotel & Casino

LAS VEGAS – Hot heavyweight prospect Roman Greenberg (18-0, 13 KOs) headlines a June 11th pro boxing show at the Plaza Hotel and Casino in Las Vegas, promoted by Guilty Boxing in association with Fight Academy, Infox Promotions and World Promotions.

Unbeaten powerhouse Greenberg, fighting out of England via Israel, is a gifted, 6-3 sharpshooter. The 22-year-old boxer faces Josh "The Griz" Gutcher (17-3, 13 KOs), of Des Moines (IA), in the 10-round main event.

"Greenberg is a highly-touted, popular up-and-coming fighter who'll be tested by Josh Gutcher," Guilty vice president Jay Hassman said. "We have a Ukrainian invasion on this card. The co-feature promises to be very entertaining and we have competitive supportive bouts."

Greenberg holds a victory against Julius Francis (WDEC10, Dec. 10, 2004), who defeated Mike Tyson victor Danny Williams and also has been in the ring against some of the world's best heavyweights including Tyson, Vitali Klitschko, John Ruiz, Zeljko Mavrovic, Oleg Maskaev and Sinan Samil Sam.

.................................................. ..


Posted that because I'm fairly certain that a showdown between Valuev and Greenburg is inevitable.

Roman is the fastest man in the heavyweight division. He is even faster than Ali was.

Valuev is about to take over the division.

Greenburg may be the only one with what it takes to beat him.

Greenberg is also a proud israli, Valeuv is the pride of Germany.

Could their be a bigger megafight???

I think not.

great!

one-liners from films we liked..

nothing punctures a conspiracy debate like that..

hasta lavista, baby. :)

look forget about the blues bros quote:

why don't you answer this question

how about not getting title shots cos you beat bums?

could be lack of answers

look forget about the blues bros quote:

why don't you answer this question

how about not getting title shots cos you beat bums?

could be lack of answers

Do you think any top contenders were asking to fight a 7 foot
giant?

I know that Vitali and Wlad both could have had this fight in 2000 but neither of them wanted it.

There arn't that many other great Eueropeans for him to be tested against.

Talk to the pistola prince Harr...I mean Michael Wittman.

Roman Greenberg invades Las Vegas
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June 11 show at Plaza Hotel & Casino

LAS VEGAS – Hot heavyweight prospect Roman Greenberg (18-0, 13 KOs) headlines a June 11th pro boxing show at the Plaza Hotel and Casino in Las Vegas, promoted by Guilty Boxing in association with Fight Academy, Infox Promotions and World Promotions.

Unbeaten powerhouse Greenberg, fighting out of England via Israel, is a gifted, 6-3 sharpshooter. The 22-year-old boxer faces Josh "The Griz" Gutcher (17-3, 13 KOs), of Des Moines (IA), in the 10-round main event.

"Greenberg is a highly-touted, popular up-and-coming fighter who'll be tested by Josh Gutcher," Guilty vice president Jay Hassman said. "We have a Ukrainian invasion on this card. The co-feature promises to be very entertaining and we have competitive supportive bouts."

Greenberg holds a victory against Julius Francis (WDEC10, Dec. 10, 2004), who defeated Mike Tyson victor Danny Williams and also has been in the ring against some of the world's best heavyweights including Tyson, Vitali Klitschko, John Ruiz, Zeljko Mavrovic, Oleg Maskaev and Sinan Samil Sam.

.................................................. ..


Posted that because I'm fairly certain that a showdown between Valuev and Greenburg is inevitable.

Roman is the fastest man in the heavyweight division. He is even faster than Ali was.

Valuev is about to take over the division.

Greenburg may be the only one with what it takes to beat him.

Greenberg is also a proud israli, Valeuv is the pride of Germany.

Could their be a bigger megafight???

I think not.


hihi,

i like abraham weinbum greenberg goldstink..

i think hes the next big thing, let me put that in my sig..

ariel greenbum - then you made some holocash - now its paybactime - greenbum is meaner than the grinch! :D

its too good..

na,

valuev-vitali thats the fight. old vs new europe. teeth time.

hihi,

i like abraham weinbum greenberg goldstink..

i think hes the next big thing, let me put that in my sig..

ariel greenbum - then you made some holocash - now its paybactime - greenbum is meaner than the grinch! :D

its too god..

na,

valuev-vitali thats the fight. old vs new europe. teeth time.

Change those characters to ones in red, and I know that typing style like the back of my hand. Im getting better at becoming a detective on this site.

hihi,

i like abraham weinbum greenberg goldstink..

i think hes the next big thing, let me put that in my sig..

ariel greenbum - then you made some holocash - now its paybactime - greenbum is meaner than the grinch! :D

its too god..

na,

valuev-vitali thats the fight. old vs new europe. teeth time.


I'm sorry I don't know that much about Europe.

Which fighter is old Europe and which is new Europe?

Change those characters to ones in red, and I know that typing style like the back of my hand. Im getting better at becoming a detective on this site.

insinuating what - am i tino/timo?

WHAT?

I'm sorry I don't know that much about Europe.

Which fighter is old Europe and which is new Europe?

- arrgh!

its not important!

the russian is "old" europe.

I like Valuev's song.

"And when the final curtain comes.....

You'll find yourself a new day....

Drop down on banded kness and pray"

I like Valuev's song.

"And when the final curtain comes.....

You'll find yourself a new day....

Drop down on banded kness and pray"

im just giving it a wildshot here;

whiskey and vodka..?

im just giving it a wildshot here;

whiskey and vodka..?


You don't like his song?


And no, I don't drink.

I could comment on why but some of the people who do, might become offended. ;)

You don't like his song?


And no, I don't drink.

I could comment on why but some of the people who do, might become offended. ;)

please comment, joe.

if you also are a knights templar you could pm me the secret sign to verify and we could talk down on the alcohol drinkers in code..! :)

Do you think any top contenders were asking to fight a 7 foot
giant?

I know that Vitali and Wlad both could have had this fight in 2000 but neither of them wanted it.

There arn't that many other great Eueropeans for him to be tested against.

any contender if it meant a title shot afterwards

valuev is now mandatory challenger to ruiz, through beating bums...

if you are wondering why valuev did not get a title shot, you should ask the same about barrett, who has more significant wins

NOW to the fighting possibilities of valuev

in a ufc contest he would be pretty effective, but he had to cheat to beat etienne.
rabbit punching, wrestling, illegal by the rules of boxing

do you know primo carnera?
same story (70 years old) even made it to world champ for 2 defenses, and he is widely regarded as one of the worst hw champs in boxing history.

wait and see

valuev is WWE material

please comment, joe.

if you also are a knights templar you could pm me the secret sign to verify and we could talk down on the alcohol drinkers in code..! :)


I wouldn't be a in any orginazation that was so rooted in history and not a part of the world developing today.

Allot the United States founding fathers were in that weren't they????

I don't drink alchohol because it increases my toxicity levels.

To counter the effects of high toxicity I run, drink lots of water, and go in the sauna every day.

If you know what group I'm a part of I will be very impressed indeed.

primo would have beat down seldon

they made a movie about carnera - called the harder they come..

it destroyed boxing..

I wouldn't be a in any orginazation that was so rooted in history and not a part of the world developing today.

Allot the United States founding fathers were in that weren't they????

I don't drink alchohol because it increases my toxicity levels.

To counter the effects of high toxicity I run, drink lots of water, and go in the sauna every day.

If you know what group I'm a part of I will be very impressed indeed.

oh, it isent the t.. terrorists..? :D

founding fathers..

i think they where into something called the miceons..

give me the clues to your organization..

any contender if it meant a title shot afterwards

valuev is now mandatory challenger to ruiz, through beating bums...

if you are wondering why valuev did not get a title shot, you should ask the same about barrett, who has more significant wins

NOW to the fighting possibilities of valuev

in a ufc contest he would be pretty effective, but he had to cheat to beat etienne.
rabbit punching, wrestling, illegal by the rules of boxing

do you know primo carnera?
same story (70 years old) even made it to world champ for 2 defenses, and he is widely regarded as one of the worst hw champs in boxing history.

wait and see

valuev is WWE material


I just found out about Primo.

But I disagree about Valuev, he did cheat to beat Etienne, but I don't think that he meant to or need to.

I have watched Valuev much longer than most people and I dismissed him 4 years ago.

I saw what horrible skillz he had and said he would never beat decent opposition.

Since watching him I have determined that he only looks so awkward because he is sooo large. He fights very well for his size.

And even though he is bigger than the Klitckcos he doesn't have the stamina problem that they do. Which is very immpressive.

People also say he doesn't have the power he should have. I disagree, he fights with a Jirov style of throwing shots constantly for 12 instead of tiring. And his baby shots are alot worse than many heavy's power shots.

it destroyed boxing..

what movie?

oh it so did destroy boxing anyway

that's why today you are on this website called boxingscene

Wait untill Valuev kills somebody. Then you will believe.

And M.W.

My orginazation is not a cult or club or anything like that.

We are a church.

And we are the only church not based on superstition, and based on rationality.

Allthough we do not reject other churches, we accept and welcome their influence on making the world a better place.

what movie?

oh it so did destroy boxing anyway

that's why today you are on this website called boxingscene

yeah,

talking to a bonehead like yourself,

imagening what might have been..

Wait untill Valuev kills somebody. Then you will believe.

And M.W.

My orginazation is not a cult or club or anything like that.

We are a church.

And we are the only church not based on superstition, and based on rationality.

Allthough we do not reject other churches, we accept and welcome their influence on making the world a better place.

scientology?

please tell me about the type of churches you favour?

scientology?

please tell me about the type of churches you favour?


Yes!!!! Good job. You are very intelligent.

I have been helping deliver third dynamic sanity for 3 and 1/2 years.

This is something I am very serious about so please no

"Your a crack head jokes".

Many people judge Scinetology, and don't know anything about it.

Yes!!!! Good job. You are very intelligent.

I have been helping deliver third dynamic sanity for 3 and 1/2 years.

This is something I am very serious about so please no

"Your a crack head jokes".

Many people judge Scinetology, and don't know anything about it.

i wont make up a joke, i think its quite interesting.

feel free to pm me some promostuff or whatever you got.

cant promise ill join or anything.

****face..........i am an aussie too............tszyu is an aussie also, but of russian origin and came to aussie as an adult...so he is a russian australian.

You an Aussie, Me too mate, where ya from

yeah,

talking to a bonehead like yourself,

imagening what might have been..

look scheisse staffel freak, first off call your moma a bonehead

second tell us about this mysterious movie...

i wont make up a joke, i think its quite interesting.

feel free to pm me some promostuff or whatever you got.

cant promise ill join or anything.


if you want a can sign you up for the newsletter.

I know it's not cool to give out info over the net, but I swear that nobody comes knocking on your door or any of that garbage.

Our newsletter is actually a magazine that comes out every 3 months, I read it for 2 years before I ever decided to go to a meeing.

Scientology is really about 3 things.

Raising Intelligence

Changing Personality

Remedying chronic illnesses

If your interested in any of those things. Please check out the website here.

http://www.scientology.org/

you are misinformed and ignorant.

i wish you the best of times in the gap between now and the time youll, by natures quick necessety, fall down a long staircaise or get run over by a car.

nice knowing you dude, bye!

Just stating the facts, dude...

say what you want, but nothing you say can change what has happened through the course of boxing history lol

By the way, what part of my post do you claim makes me ignorant?

Misinformed?

The opponents who stopped Etienne?

The level of opposition Valuev has faced?

I like Valuev as much as anyone else, but the fact still remains that he needs to get a move on or he'll be too old to challenge anyone for a title.

righty..

all im saying is that you can stop hating valuev out of you usual patriotism for us..

cause the guy might well be a sock puppet for us capitalist expansion, and also the spreading of general satanism.. :D