View Full Version : Rate These Welterweights


sisforshaq
05-28-2005, 11:15 AM
Oscar De La Hoya
Zab Judah
Shane Mosley
Felix Trinidad
Antonio Margarito..

I messed up the name of the other thread, so its better here. My list is probally

Oscar
Shane
Felix
Zab
Antonio

Truth
05-28-2005, 11:17 AM
Oscar De La Hoya
Zab Judah
Shane Mosley
Felix Trinidad
Antonio Margarito..

I messed up the name of the other thread, so its better here. My list is probally

Oscar
Shane
Felix
Zab
Antonio

How are you going to put Zab at 4 and De La Hoya at one? Or are those not in order?

RwK
05-28-2005, 11:19 AM
Im still kind of confused on this ranking issue. Perhaps you can better explain these. I think you are talking about "In recent Memory" right? meaning who was the best at that weight of the list you made?

sisforshaq
05-28-2005, 11:19 AM
of just rating these fighters? Not the RANKINGS, just from worst to best over the years. Thats all, Zab is number 1 fight now but over the years would have beaten all of these guys in their primes??

RwK
05-28-2005, 11:22 AM
of just rating these fighters? Not the RANKINGS, just from worst to best over the years. Thats all, Zab is number 1 fight now but over the years would have beaten all of these guys in their primes??



In that Case DLH should be on top because he is one of the best welterweights of all time.

The Troll
05-28-2005, 11:24 AM
Why is Trinidad on the list. How can we rank Trinidad amongst currently active welterweights when he has not fought at welterweight since 1999. But in his prime at Welter. He is no doubt one of the best fighters in that weight class ever. 1997 Felix Trinidad would destroy Zab Judah. You say Trinidad could never beat good boxers. Well he beat David Reid into retirement, he beat Pernell Whitaker, he beat Hector Macho Camacho and other boxers far above the level of Winky Wright. Remember one thing also Felix Trinidad is undefeated as a Welterweight.

Truth
05-28-2005, 12:05 PM
He did beat Pernell Whitaker, good point McKay...

`STEELHEAD
05-28-2005, 01:42 PM
dlh
mosley
margarito
trinidad
zab


at this time i would think dlh would have serious problems with mosley. and mosely would have a ruff time with margarito. zab would have very little chance against any of these guys.the new and improved zab impressed me last time around with spinx but i never was impressed that much with spinx. spinx would have been an easy fight for the guys above.

borikua
05-28-2005, 02:54 PM
Trinidad
DLH
Mosley
Margarito
Zab

PS: Trinidad made 17 defenses of the welterweight title against the best..

Tha Greatest
05-28-2005, 02:57 PM
Trinidad
DLH
Mosley
Margarito
Zab

PS: Trinidad made 17 defenses of the welterweight title against the best..

Trinidad would get knocked out by: Leonard, Hearns, Duran, Robinson, etc.

borikua
05-28-2005, 03:08 PM
Trinidad would get knocked out by: Leonard, Hearns, Duran, Robinson, etc.

So? What that has to do with this thread...Tito could also have ko them....man stop the hating..

Tha Greatest
05-28-2005, 03:11 PM
So? What that has to do with this thread...Tito could also have ko them....man stop the hating..
lol, just messin with you

I'm saying cuz he had 17 defenses isnt what makes him good

Sugar Ray Robinson didnt have 17 defenses I dont think but thats not what made him good

He was good cuz of the people he beat, not cuz of his record...

Records don't really mean much

borikua
05-28-2005, 03:30 PM
lol, just messin with you

I'm saying cuz he had 17 defenses isnt what makes him good

Sugar Ray Robinson didnt have 17 defenses I dont think but thats not what made him good

He was good cuz of the people he beat, not cuz of his record...

Records don't really mean much

So that applies to Tito but it doesn't apply to Hopkins 20 defenses...the only good names are to blow up welters in DLH and Tito..For the record, it was 15 defenses not 17..My bad..

Plus for your info Tito beat as a welter:

Maurice Blocker (34-3-0) - KO in the 2nd rnd for the IBF title at the age of 20.

Luis Gabriel Garcia (24-2-0) - KO first round.

Anthony Stephens (19-5-2) - KO 10th.

Hector "Macho" Camacho (44-2-0) - UD.

Yory Boy Campas (56-0-0) - Gaved Yory his first loss with a 4th rnd TKO. (This is the fight that made me a fan of boxing and Tito)

Oba Carr (32-0-0) - Gaved Oba his first loss. TKO 8th

Roger Turner (29-2-0) - TKO 2nd rnd.

Larry Barnes (39-1-0) - TKO 4th.

Rodney Moore (36-9-2) - TKO 4th.

Freddie Pendleton (40-20-4) - KO 5th.

Ray Lovato (16-1-0) - TKO 6th.

Kevin Lueshing (19-1-0) - TKO 3rd.

Troy Waters (27-4-0) - KO first rnd.

Mahenge Zulu (17-2-1) - KO 4th.

Pernell Whitaker (40-2-1) - UD.

Hugo Pineda (36-1-1) - KO 4th.

Oscar De La Hoya (31-0-0) - MD.

Tha Greatest
05-28-2005, 03:46 PM
So that applies to Tito but it doesn't apply to Hopkins 20 defenses...the only good names are to blow up welters in DLH and Tito..For the record, it was 15 defenses not 17..My bad..

Plus for your info Tito beat as a welter:

Maurice Blocker (34-3-0) - KO in the 2nd rnd for the IBF title at the age of 20.

Luis Gabriel Garcia (24-2-0) - KO first round.

Anthony Stephens (19-5-2) - KO 10th.

Hector "Macho" Camacho (44-2-0) - UD.

Yory Boy Campas (56-0-0) - Gaved Yory his first loss with a 4th rnd TKO. (This is the fight that made me a fan of boxing and Tito)

Oba Carr (32-0-0) - Gaved Oba his first loss. TKO 8th

Roger Turner (29-2-0) - TKO 2nd rnd.

Larry Barnes (39-1-0) - TKO 4th.

Rodney Moore (36-9-2) - TKO 4th.

Freddie Pendleton (40-20-4) - KO 5th.

Ray Lovato (16-1-0) - TKO 6th.

Kevin Lueshing (19-1-0) - TKO 3rd.

Troy Waters (27-4-0) - KO first rnd.

Mahenge Zulu (17-2-1) - KO 4th.

Pernell Whitaker (40-2-1) - UD.

Hugo Pineda (36-1-1) - KO 4th.

Oscar De La Hoya (31-0-0) - MD.


I was joking about sayin all those fighter would own him

Yes, Trinidad did beat a lot of great fighters at welterweight..
DLH was robbed IMO

Whitaker was really SHOT but u cant take nethin away from Tito but IMO Pernell would easily outbox Tito in his prime

Camacho was old to but I believe Tito would've still defeated him

Exciterx24
05-28-2005, 03:57 PM
So that applies to Tito but it doesn't apply to Hopkins 20 defenses...the only good names are to blow up welters in DLH and Tito..For the record, it was 15 defenses not 17..My bad..

Plus for your info Tito beat as a welter:

Maurice Blocker (34-3-0) - KO in the 2nd rnd for the IBF title at the age of 20.

Luis Gabriel Garcia (24-2-0) - KO first round.

Anthony Stephens (19-5-2) - KO 10th.

Hector "Macho" Camacho (44-2-0) - UD.

Yory Boy Campas (56-0-0) - Gaved Yory his first loss with a 4th rnd TKO. (This is the fight that made me a fan of boxing and Tito)

Oba Carr (32-0-0) - Gaved Oba his first loss. TKO 8th

Roger Turner (29-2-0) - TKO 2nd rnd.

Larry Barnes (39-1-0) - TKO 4th.

Rodney Moore (36-9-2) - TKO 4th.

Freddie Pendleton (40-20-4) - KO 5th.

Ray Lovato (16-1-0) - TKO 6th.

Kevin Lueshing (19-1-0) - TKO 3rd.

Troy Waters (27-4-0) - KO first rnd.

Mahenge Zulu (17-2-1) - KO 4th.

Pernell Whitaker (40-2-1) - UD.

Hugo Pineda (36-1-1) - KO 4th.

Oscar De La Hoya (31-0-0) - MD.

Waters was not a title defense. It was a 154 eliminator.