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elveiel 12-02-2004, 06:12 PM Its funny how things change, on Tszyu website his fans have been calling Hatton a bum last week but now the negotiations have progressed their all saying Hattons a very good fighter, some saying he's world class!! :D
What do you guys think? I'm unsure, IMO Hatton has the tools to win but he's never faced a fighter anywhere near as good as Tszyu!! It could be an early KO for Tszyu but i'm expecting it to be a tough fight for both.
aaalex 12-02-2004, 06:16 PM I'm unsure, IMO Hatton has the tools to win but he's never faced a fighter anywhere near as good as Tszyu!!
I agree...
Mikie 12-02-2004, 06:18 PM I agree...
That makes two of us!
Great 12-02-2004, 06:48 PM Signing of the contract on that fight is equivalent to signing of the death sentence for Hatton. Let's we all stand up from armchairs and shall greet Ricky which goes on a scaffold.
On his grave will be written " he was the brave and desperate guy " :)
Kimmy 12-02-2004, 06:59 PM Totally disagree. Hatton is certainly world class. Look at the way he fought Vince Philips and Be Tackie. I realize that Philips is older now but he is still half decent and Hatton beat him without too much problems ( Tsyzu can`t claim that ) and Ben Tackie was beaten up by Hatton. How can you say that Hatton is signing his death sentence? Tsyzu is at the age where he could fall apart, maybe not, but maybe and yes Tsyzu looked great against Mitchell but it doesn`t mean he`ll beat Hatton. Having seen nearly all of both fighters fights i lean towards Hatton for a late tko or close points win. He has been more active and can box well as well as bang. Also keep in mind hatton has a great chin and Tsyzu`s chin is average at best.
Knicksman20 12-02-2004, 07:12 PM Hatton gets lifted by Tsyzu. I'm no Tsyzu fan, but Hatton style plays perfectly into his hands. He's NEVER faced the caliber of fighter Tsyzu is & such an accurate puncher. That head 1st style will get him KTFO if this fight is ever made.
Easy night for Kostya.
Lets demand it - Oscar Vs Kostya
P@pasmurf 12-02-2004, 10:08 PM i think its either gonna be an early KO by either fighter, or a decision. i ricky can make it thru the early rounds, he shoudl be good to go the distance i woudl think. Hatton is pretty good fighter.
Please, Hatton should be 20/1 outsider.
PRboxingfan 12-02-2004, 10:38 PM i think its either gonna be an early KO by either fighter, or a decision. i ricky can make it thru the early rounds, he shoudl be good to go the distance i woudl think. Hatton is pretty good fighter.
So, either one fighter knocks the other one out or it goes to a decision? Wow, great analysis :rolleyes:
Anyway, just as Mayorga was "taylor-made" for Tito so, too, is Ricky "taylor-made" for the Tszyuperman. I don't see this fight going past 6, honestly.
aaalex 12-02-2004, 11:58 PM Hatton is pretty good fighter.
Hatton is pretty good fighter, but it is not better than Tszyu...!
Cletus Funk 12-03-2004, 12:33 AM He's got a better chance than most. Just because he hasn't fought anyone af KT's calibre doesn't mean he won't be able to deal with it. Has anyone forced KT to fight off the back foot like Hatton probably would?
FistoftheDallasStar 12-03-2004, 12:48 AM He does have a better chance than most but I can't see him really being able to figure out Tszyu. If Hatton takes a clean shot I don't see him being able to survive the round unless saved by the bell. It will be a great fight to watch but Kostya is in prime form so it will be tough to pick against him.
Cletus Funk 12-03-2004, 04:08 AM He does have a better chance than most but I can't see him really being able to figure out Tszyu. If Hatton takes a clean shot I don't see him being able to survive the round unless saved by the bell. It will be a great fight to watch but Kostya is in prime form so it will be tough to pick against him.
Yeah, Tszyu's power will always be a worry to him but I think Hatton will be a new experience for Tszyu too. I'm not too sure there's that much to figure out about Tszyu though. I think KT looks more dangerous when he fights guys who stand off him as he gets a lot of his power from moving forwards. I think Hatton's best chance is to really take it to him from the start and force him onto the back foot. If he can do this then I wouldn't be that surprised if he got the stoppage by the mid rounds. If he can't then I think it would just be a matter of time before KT landed some big ones on him and we'd see if he can take a shot.
Swifty 12-03-2004, 04:25 AM It'd be too easy for tszyu.
I'd want Oscar verse Tszyu. Or better yet, Bernard.
Cletus Funk 12-03-2004, 05:02 AM It'd be too easy for tszyu.
I'd want Oscar verse Tszyu. Or better yet, Bernard.
Do you not want him to even have a chance of winning? :rolleyes:
Great 12-03-2004, 05:23 AM Totally disagree. Hatton is certainly world class. Look at the way he fought Vince Philips and Be Tackie. I realize that Philips is older now but he is still half decent and Hatton beat him without too much problems ( Tsyzu can`t claim that ) and Ben Tackie was beaten up by Hatton. How can you say that Hatton is signing his death sentence? Tsyzu is at the age where he could fall apart, maybe not, but maybe and yes Tsyzu looked great against Mitchell but it doesn`t mean he`ll beat Hatton. Having seen nearly all of both fighters fights i lean towards Hatton for a late tko or close points win. He has been more active and can box well as well as bang.
Vince was already old and good-for-nothing fighter (40 years) and Hatton-knockouter has won only by UD.
And that? Ben in last two years only loses. What this victory can strongly prove? Him beat both Sharmba, and Tszyu. All by UD.
Also keep in mind hatton has a great chin and Tsyzu`s chin is average at best.
Really? Kostya was knockdown only after missed exact punches in a chin, and certainly not all. I am not sure, that Hatton could take these punches. He did not meet against such opponents as Tszyu. Tszyu has a normal chin.
He has been more active and can box well as well as bang.
Ricky is monotonous and primitive for Kostya. I am sure, he knock him out not later than 5-6 rounds.
Great 12-03-2004, 05:27 AM It'd be too easy for tszyu.
I'd want Oscar verse Tszyu. Or better yet, Bernard.
Tszyu vs Hop? You joke?:)
aaalex 12-03-2004, 05:47 AM Tszyu vs Hop? You joke?:)
yes, it is joke!
and very funny joke! :)
Cletus Funk 12-03-2004, 06:05 AM Vince was already old and good-for-nothing fighter (40 years) and Hatton-knockouter has won only by UD.
And that? Ben in last two years only loses. What this victory can strongly prove? Him beat both Sharmba, and Tszyu. All by UD.
Really? Kostya was knockdown only after missed exact punches in a chin, and certainly not all. I am not sure, that Hatton could take these punches. He did not meet against such opponents as Tszyu. Tszyu has a normal chin.
Ricky is monotonous and primitive for Kostya. I am sure, he knock him out not later than 5-6 rounds.
Vince wasn't exactly young when he beat Tszyu either and Tszyu was in his prime years so that fight didn't really prove anything either way.
The Tackie fight just proved that Hatton can take care of the other guys as well as, if not better than, KT & Mitchell.
I'm sure Ricky is monotonous - for the guys he's faced. There's nothing primative about the way he switches his angles to get his shots in.
People who think that this fight would be easy for either guy must be blind, crazy or they haven't seen enough of the fighters.
drag0n_ 12-03-2004, 08:43 AM Wouldn't any of you say Hatton would be one the hardest fights of Kostya's career? Remember Hatton is probably better than Mitchell/Leija/Tackie etc.
Fighting an in-prime top 10 fighter who has a real chance imo of beating him.
Just note to all you hatton bashers...
Has Hatton fought a top 10 140lb fighter? NO, but he wants to against the best (Tszyu) but when he does you guys say "he doesn't desverve a shot" - lmao , he cant win!
Has Cotto fought a top 10 140lb fighter? NO, everyone masterbating over a win against a medicore brasillian ( who pussied out of fighting hatton)
Has Floyd fought a top 10 140lb fighter? NO
Has Gatti fought a top 10 140lb fighter? NO
Has Harris fought a top 10 140lb fighter? NO
So how the hell can you all be ripping Hatton when none of the other top fighters have fought each other?
marvdave 12-03-2004, 08:48 AM Its funny how things change, on Tszyu website his fans have been calling Hatton a bum last week but now the negotiations have progressed their all saying Hattons a very good fighter, some saying he's world class!! :D
What do you guys think? I'm unsure, IMO Hatton has the tools to win but he's never faced a fighter anywhere near as good as Tszyu!! It could be an early KO for Tszyu but i'm expecting it to be a tough fight for both.
KT won't have any trouble with Hatton. Should be a quick night.
Great 12-03-2004, 03:28 PM Vince wasn't exactly young when he beat Tszyu either and Tszyu was in his prime years so that fight didn't really prove anything either way.
In fight with Hatton Vince was more older on six years. I believe - it is not necessary to explain how it influences on the professional sportsman (the boxer and another). Kostya has lost to Vince for the objective reasons: the opponent was changed in short term before fight (I hope, everyone know - Tszyu should meet not with Phillips); after that fight for Kostya the contract on fight with DLH was guaranteed, people already discussed this fight; and here a meeting with underdog - certainly these facts had in aggregate an effect on quality of preparation for fight: physical and psychological (fight with DLH!!! What Vince? Where? I don ` t care this underdog). I think, at anybody it is no doubt - if Tzsyu will meet with Phillips now and in shape(or one year ago) - Vince would be knocked out. This has made even Millett.
The Tackie fight just proved that Hatton can take care of the other guys as well as, if not better than, KT & Mitchell.
This fight can not prove it in any way. Business all in that: Ben always had serious problems even with a little bit technical opponents + up to a meeting with Ricky he has lost two fights and already any boxer particularly knew how to operate against him. If Hatton has made it with Mitchell instead of Tackie then it would be possible to assume " Hatton can take care of the guys as well as,..., KT and Mitchell ". To make comments on this ("if not better") separately I shall not be - better simply shall laugh.:)
I'm sure Ricky is monotonous - for the guys he's faced.
Ricky monotonous in all fights, which spent. And I am sure - he never will change.
There's nothing primative about the way he switches his angles to get his shots in.
It is everything, that he is able. By the way, he well do this (shots in) only on an average distance, but also here he is extremely monotonous - that means - is predicted.
I think... I am sure - he during their meeting almost nothing can do with Kostya.
People who think that this fight would be easy for either guy must be blind, crazy or they haven't seen enough of the fighters.
I smile again, Frank.:) Maybe this fight will not be easy, but he will be not difficult for Tszyu.
Raekwon 12-03-2004, 03:42 PM would be a good fight imo, i think tszyu would beat hatton tho, wouldnt be easy but neither will it be hard, but hatton deserves a chance against a "big name" could always provide a suprise...
DR. FREECLOUD 12-03-2004, 03:57 PM kostya is the man to beat in that division right now imo. hatton, if they actually fight, will have alot to prove. hattonj is very impressive and i think he actually has a chance against tszyu. i hope kostya wins cause i have always liked him. man i hope this fight happens.
Cletus Funk 12-03-2004, 06:59 PM In fight with Hatton Vince was more older on six years. I believe - it is not necessary to explain how it influences on the professional sportsman (the boxer and another). Kostya has lost to Vince for the objective reasons: the opponent was changed in short term before fight (I hope, everyone know - Tszyu should meet not with Phillips); after that fight for Kostya the contract on fight with DLH was guaranteed, people already discussed this fight; and here a meeting with underdog - certainly these facts had in aggregate an effect on quality of preparation for fight: physical and psychological (fight with DLH!!! What Vince? Where? I don ` t care this underdog). I think, at anybody it is no doubt - if Tzsyu will meet with Phillips now and in shape(or one year ago) - Vince would be knocked out. This has made even Millett.
This fight can not prove it in any way. Business all in that: Ben always had serious problems even with a little bit technical opponents + up to a meeting with Ricky he has lost two fights and already any boxer particularly knew how to operate against him. If Hatton has made it with Mitchell instead of Tackie then it would be possible to assume " Hatton can take care of the guys as well as,..., KT and Mitchell ". To make comments on this ("if not better") separately I shall not be - better simply shall laugh.:)
Ricky monotonous in all fights, which spent. And I am sure - he never will change.
It is everything, that he is able. By the way, he well do this (shots in) only on an average distance, but also here he is extremely monotonous - that means - is predicted.
I think... I am sure - he during their meeting almost nothing can do with Kostya.
I smile again, Frank.:) Maybe this fight will not be easy, but he will be not difficult for Tszyu.
You're funny. :) I shall look forward to seeing your views after the fight if it happens. ;)
elveiel 12-03-2004, 08:27 PM KT won't have any trouble with Hatton. Should be a quick night.
i'm a little worried for Hatton because Tszyu's a great puncher, it could end early but i'm confident Hatton has the tools to win!! Before anyone says anything i'll tell you that Tszyu and Hatton are my favourite fighters and there is no bias for either!! i think Tszyu a p4p great but Hatton could really trouble him, i fight a lot like Tszyu, obviously not as good as Tszyu but my styles closer to Tszyu than anyone else and i'd never want to fight a guy like Hatton(if he was my size) because he's so good at what he does! I slighty favour Tszyu but i not ruling out an upset!
Hurlex 12-04-2004, 01:16 AM damn lol..looks at hamed fly in abover avatar...anyway...KT ko's hatton within 4 rounds..thsi fight wont go the distance...this is a great fight,,,but it wont last...ad who said mitchell wasnt better then hatton???..anway easy win for KT..and the other fight that may happen is corrales which KT would also win
i demand KT/DLH or KT/Margarito
Great 12-04-2004, 03:49 AM You're funny. :) I shall look forward to seeing your views after the fight if it happens. ;)
I heard similar before fight with Mitchell many times. ;)
But you when Kostya knocks out Hatton, not strongly be sad and necessarily go on a forum - I shall try you to calm.:)
simeraksou 12-04-2004, 02:38 PM Its funny how things change, on Tszyu website his fans have been calling Hatton a bum last week but now the negotiations have progressed their all saying Hattons a very good fighter, some saying he's world class!! :D
What do you guys think? I'm unsure, IMO Hatton has the tools to win but he's never faced a fighter anywhere near as good as Tszyu!! It could be an early KO for Tszyu but i'm expecting it to be a tough fight for both.
I think hatton gets knocked out by tszyu by mid fight. tszyu has faced much stiffer competition and i think his punching power alone would be too overwhelming for hatton
elveiel 12-04-2004, 03:14 PM I think hatton gets knocked out by tszyu by mid fight. tszyu has faced much stiffer competition and i think his punching power alone would be too overwhelming for hatton
I'm not convinced Tszyu has beaten better fighters than Hatton, nobody knows how good Hatton really is! Hatton could be better than Tszyu, you never know!! Hatton's beat on every fighter he's faced to date and i cant remember him losing many rounds a long the way.
This fight would prove if Hatton as good as he looks, or if he's just looks good against decent/durrable fighters.
bandito 12-04-2004, 08:09 PM i like hatton and he will be a future world champ, but tszyu will destroy him. he will stop hatton around round 9!!
Kimmy 12-04-2004, 08:21 PM Hatton is the real deal. I'm gonna go all out. If this fight is signed i will bet with anyone who`s got the balls that Hatton wins!
Kostya will not suddenly "get old" against Hatton. He was tagged pretty good by Mitchell, but not enough to affect Kostya in his next fight, regardless of who it is.
Hatton is a banger. He always shows-up conditioned and loves to take it to you. Gotta admire the effort.
But, Kostya will gain Hatton's respect very early in this fight. Kostya has extremely heavy hands. Ricky will get tagged by an average Kostya shot and won't like it. Hatton's game plan will then be either: 1) Keep banging and moving forward, as he likes to, or 2) No game plan, because he's not liking what he got himself into (ala Mitchell). Doesn't matter though, 'cause the very-accurate Kostya will have his way, simply because Ricky will be off his game after that first good power shot from a guy who is a true, first-tier champion slugger.
This fight is simple and easy for Kostya .... Ricky on the ropes getting picked-apart, cause he's decided to be defensive, which is not his style, OR he maintains his gameplan and comes forward into a monster right hand.
elveiel 12-04-2004, 08:47 PM Hatton is the real deal. I'm gonna go all out. If this fight is signed i will bet with anyone who`s got the balls that Hatton wins!
A brave thing to say, Tszyu is a great fighter but i would say that Hatton could win.
i'm unsure who i think will win yet, i'll probably decide once the fights signed.
nezahualcoyotl 12-05-2004, 03:43 AM i have a feeling that hatton will give a good spirited fight, and might lose but still no matter the outcome really both men will go on to make millions...hatton is not a pretty boy...man this guy is a THUG! lol in american slang...he would be a tuff mutha****er from the ghetoo u know..
elveiel 12-05-2004, 03:48 AM i have a feeling that hatton will give a good spirited fight, and might lose but still no matter the outcome really both men will go on to make millions...hatton is not a pretty boy...man this guy is a THUG! lol in american slang...he would be a tuff mutha****er from the ghetoo u know..
Hatton's really polite outside the ring, not nasty at all!! I was told when he was a school he was a model pupil, but if he heard about a fight in the playground he would run over and beat everyone up!! A nice guy who cant resist beating people up!! A nasty bastard in the ring!! :confused: :D
hardhitter 12-05-2004, 01:23 PM haaton has the ability to be the worlds best, hes got a great chin and got good power id go for a haaton victory by ko but lets see how he goes on against oliveira later this month
Deejay 12-05-2004, 07:45 PM Hatton has to get on the inside to deliver his bodyshots and I just can't see him doing that against Tszyu's sharp, accurate, straight punches. Both fighters don't take a backwards step so it would make for fireworks. Tszyu has amazing boxing skills when he decides to use them. If you watch his fights earlier in his career he was almost unhittable as he was more mobile and moved in and out and laterally as well. I think it was the fight versus Hector Lopez which was his 8th fight or something and he was simply awesome. Lopez hardly tagged him.
I see Tszyu catching hatton at some point and then going in for the kill.
kadyo 12-06-2004, 02:41 AM This will be Ricky's first real test. I'm dying to see this fight and see what happen. Even if Ricky will fight in his homeland with his WBU title I think Tzsyu will knock the bloody hell out him!
Also keep in mind hatton has a great chin and Tsyzu`s chin is average at best.
Hatton got knocked down by a nobody, who doesn't hit very hard, if I recall.
Cletus Funk 12-06-2004, 04:20 AM Hatton got knocked down by a nobody, who doesn't hit very hard, if I recall.
Eamonn Magee's a good fighter with a fairly big punch and it was a flash kd with a counter. He'd give problems to most of the guys at 140.
Eamonn.. he'd be irish, yeah??!
Cletus Funk 12-06-2004, 04:35 AM Eamonn.. he'd be irish, yeah??!
Yeah, from Belfast I think.
pinkpanther 12-06-2004, 04:53 AM The punch that put Hatton down against Magee was a good shot that would have put a fair few fighters down, it was a flash knockdown and Hatton recovered almost strait away, it was Hatton's first big fight against a fighter who was much more experienced and a tough proposition, Hatton learned from the fight and it hasn't happened since agaainst better fighters - it has if anything made Hatton a better fighter.
elveiel 12-06-2004, 10:15 AM Hatton got knocked down by a nobody, who doesn't hit very hard, if I recall.
No way, Magee's as rough as they come, he's like the grim reaper!!! Magee was suposed to fight Mitchell, if it happened my money was on Magee, no doubt!!
I'm not making excuses but it was only a flash KD while Hatton was unloading, Hatton was off balance and he went down!! Hatton wasnt hurt, he was very embarrassed but thats it!! Its a fair knock down but its not proof that Hatton has any Problems with his chin
If you havent seen it here it is! If you watch it, you will see that Hattons off balance before you hear the punch land.
http://www.rickyhitmanhatton.com/video/hatton-magee.html
hatton needs to face mitchell, corley, urkal or some other top contender before facing zoo.... if he fought zoo now, he'd be jumping from "C" level comp to world class.... he needs to face someone in between to prepare him...
elveiel 12-06-2004, 10:57 AM hatton needs to face mitchell, corley, urkal or some other top contender before facing zoo.... if he fought zoo now, he'd be jumping from "C" level comp to world class.... he needs to face someone in between to prepare him...
Agreed that Tszyu would be a big step up for Hatton but i dont think any of the fighters you mention are anymoe difficult than the fighters he's already face. Magee, Tackie and Phillips offered him as much experience as these guys can provide!
Gatti, Cotto or Harris would be the sort of test Hatton would need before fighting Tszyu but the fights unlikely to come off!!
Tszyu and Hatton are my favourite fighters but would rather Hatton win out of the two!! Even though Hattons taking an big risk, its a risk i want him to take because i have confidence in his ability.
Cletus Funk 12-06-2004, 10:58 AM hatton needs to face mitchell, corley, urkal or some other top contender before facing zoo.... if he fought zoo now, he'd be jumping from "C" level comp to world class.... he needs to face someone in between to prepare him...
I doubt any of those guys would teach him anything that his other fights haven't. Urkall's only scalp of note is a home town decision over Magee. Corley's no better than a few guys on Hatton's record and Mitchell was taken to SD by Phillips who Hatton battered. I think he should fight KT now as there's nothing to be gained by fighting anyone except maybe PBF, Cotto and Gatti which are fights that can be made down the line.
cmason 12-06-2004, 11:48 AM hatton is a good fighter to watch but he is waaay out of his league with tszyu. i have a feeling however that this fight will not happen due to warren's reluctance to lose his cash cow. my tip is tszyu will vacate to fight cory spinks and hatton will fight lovemore n'dou for the vacant title.
Cletus Funk 12-06-2004, 11:59 AM hatton is a good fighter to watch but he is waaay out of his league with tszyu.
What makes you say that? Were all of KT's other victims way out of his league too? Even if he does lose to him, I don't think it would be badly and there's no shame in being ko'd by Tszyu. He'd learn from it and would be able to come again.
Raekwon 12-06-2004, 12:03 PM i agree with frank and i think that hatton could supprise tszyu, but the experience from it would be great for hatton he needs 2 fight some big names and losing 2 tszyu would probs be expected so there is nothing to lose for him
No way, Magee's as rough as they come, he's like the grim reaper!!! Magee was suposed to fight Mitchell, if it happened my money was on Magee, no doubt!!
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YOU AINT WRONG BLOKES NAILS.
he was kidnapped and dragged behind a car last year, beaten with baseball bats and left for dead in Ireland they broke both his legs with the bats. IN SEVERAL PLACES.
He makes his return to the ring in the Spring :eek: :eek: :eek:
He is a funny guy though Eamon apparently a real warrior, he could have beaten sharmba pre the "accident" :eek:
drag0n_ 12-06-2004, 12:13 PM YOU AINT WRONG BLOKES NAILS.
he was kidnapped and dragged behind a car last year, beaten with baseball bats and left for dead in Ireland they broke both his legs with the bats. IN SEVERAL PLACES.
He makes his return to the ring in the Spring :eek: :eek: :eek:
He is a funny guy though Eamon apparently a real warrior, he could have beaten sharmba pre the "accident" :eek:
Is that a real story?
WillieW 12-06-2004, 12:14 PM Is that a real story?
Yeah, he was never supposed to fight again. It realy happened.
Cletus Funk 12-06-2004, 12:23 PM YOU AINT WRONG BLOKES NAILS.
he was kidnapped and dragged behind a car last year, beaten with baseball bats and left for dead in Ireland they broke both his legs with the bats. IN SEVERAL PLACES.
He makes his return to the ring in the Spring :eek: :eek: :eek:
He is a funny guy though Eamon apparently a real warrior, he could have beaten sharmba pre the "accident" :eek:
I'd not heard that and I'd been wondering why he was inactive. He is one hard bastard though.
elveiel 12-07-2004, 12:55 AM YOU AINT WRONG BLOKES NAILS.
he was kidnapped and dragged behind a car last year, beaten with baseball bats and left for dead in Ireland they broke both his legs with the bats. IN SEVERAL PLACES.
He makes his return to the ring in the Spring :eek: :eek: :eek:
He is a funny guy though Eamon apparently a real warrior, he could have beaten sharmba pre the "accident" :eek:
I think he's been shot in the past too, i know he's been stabbed in the neck!!
Someone told me he was fighting Dec 10th in Belfast! Dont think its true, i think we would have heard if it was that close and it seems very soon after the injury.
Hope he's as good as before when he comes back, it would be a shame if the injury ruined his career.
pinkpanther 12-07-2004, 05:34 AM Magee is nails thats for sure, how come he gets himself in so many scrapes?
Just supose Hatton and Tyszu does come off and Hatton wins.
A) Who would he fight next, Cotto, Mayweather, Gatti, Mitchell, Harris or would there be a re-match?
B) Would that finally get the haters of his back and would they accept that he isn't a bum and he's actually damn good?
Is that a real story?
MATE NO OFFENCE TAKEN HERE BUT WHEN IT COMES TO BOXING I POST WHAT I KNOW BELIEVE OR HAVE HEARD FROM A RELIABLE SOURCE.
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BELOW FROM HE BRITISH BOXING NET OCT 28TH AUTHOR CHRIS CURRY.
In a special ring appearance, Wayne Alexander, who is now part of the Breen Team, entered the ring with his WBU title belt that he won against Takaloo in one of the most devastating knockouts seen in a British ring. Also, the remarkable recovery of Eamonn Magee was cheered as he too displayed his WBU title belt in the ring. The Terminator Magee looks set to be back.
cmason 12-07-2004, 07:08 AM What makes you say that? Were all of KT's other victims way out of his league too? Even if he does lose to him, I don't think it would be badly and there's no shame in being ko'd by Tszyu. He'd learn from it and would be able to come again.
hey sorry man, i'm not trying to belittle ricky, i've been up to the men a couple of times to see him. like i said he's good to watch. but if he fights tzsyu next year he'll get beat. but i agree with you about coming back stronger, and tzsyu won't be around much longer.
Cletus Funk 12-07-2004, 07:48 AM hey sorry man, i'm not trying to belittle ricky, i've been up to the men a couple of times to see him. like i said he's good to watch. but if he fights tzsyu next year he'll get beat. but i agree with you about coming back stronger, and tzsyu won't be around much longer.
I didn't mean to jump on you but I don't understand how people can say that as he's not been tested at that level so we don't know either way. He's done nothing but take care of everyone that he's ever fought pretty damn easily. I just think that even if he does lose, he'll make a much better effort of it than Mitchell, Judah and most of the others before him and nobody was saying they were well out of his league. :)
cmason 12-07-2004, 08:06 AM fair point, mate. hopefully we'll see next year.
Cletus Funk 12-07-2004, 08:17 AM fair point, mate. hopefully we'll see next year.
Hopefully. I'm losing a bit of interest in watching him these days as you already know what's going to happen because he's way too good for anyone outside the top 6 or 7. He definitely needs to step it up against someone next year.
cmason 12-07-2004, 08:35 AM i read somewhere last week that if tzsyu does'nt fight him, the ibf will strip tzsyu and hatton will fight lovemore n'dou for the title. so either way he's in a major fight next year.
realtim 12-07-2004, 08:55 AM Although im not a fan of Hatton he has beat some top opponents.
Eammon Magee
Ben Tackie
Vince philips
Mike stewart
couple of others.
But he lives in Manchester fights in Manchester he's never travelled anywhere that is probably partly due to warren making a killing with 10.000 fans every fight. To get the respect he has to travel to america. He is flawed Cuts is a big weakness.
Magee had him beat he stunned him in the first round with a knockdown. Tried the rope a dope which didnt work.
Tszyu would beat him though. Cotto could beat him.
cmason 12-07-2004, 09:14 AM the cuts thing is'nt really a problem anymore. he had plastic surgury to cure it.
he has also fought in the states and is fighting in london next week so all this manchester thing whilst having a point is overhyped in some areas.
elveiel 12-07-2004, 11:08 AM Although im not a fan of Hatton he has beat some top opponents.
Eammon Magee
Ben Tackie
Vince philips
Mike stewart
couple of others.
But he lives in Manchester fights in Manchester he's never travelled anywhere that is probably partly due to warren making a killing with 10.000 fans every fight. To get the respect he has to travel to america. He is flawed Cuts is a big weakness.
Magee had him beat he stunned him in the first round with a knockdown. Tried the rope a dope which didnt work.
Tszyu would beat him though. Cotto could beat him.
I did think Cotto was Hatton's biggest threat last month but i have watch Ndou/Pinto vs Cotto a couple of times since and i can see Hatton giving him hell! Ndou roughed him up and he didnt like it too much, I think Cotto's a great fighter/talent but he shouldnt fight Hatton at this stage!! Even if Cotto beat Hatton he would get roughed up a long the way, i cant see Hatton losing without dragging the opponent into a war!!
I now think Tszyu is the hardest fight for him!! Tszyu punches hard enough to avoid a war with Hatton, if Hatton is to win he will have to take big risks and go for the KO!! If Mitchell can hurt Tszyu(which he did) then its possible that Hatton could KO him!!
elveiel 12-07-2004, 11:13 AM he has also fought in the states and is fighting in london next week so all this manchester thing whilst having a point is overhyped in some areas.
:rolleyes:
I hate it when people doubt Hatton's ability based on where he's fought!!
If people took the time to look at his record they would see different venues in England and trips abroad to the US and Germany(like you said)!! Not to mention the amateurs, where he's even been to Cuba and beat one of there top guys!!
Although i couldnt care less if Hatton had fought every single in Manchester, once you step through them ropes it doesnt matter where your fighting!! Its you against them!!! :D
trephination 12-07-2004, 11:49 AM Hatton hasn't really impressed me much.I think a fight with Gatti at this point makes much more sense than stepping up and fighting Tszyu as your first real test
LuKahnLi 12-07-2004, 11:53 AM Tszyu does everything better than Hatton and is 10x stronger. Hatton will win some rounds on volume alone, but HE not Tszyu will recieve the most damage. Tszyu KO10.
ive told you amillion times dont exaggerate if he was ten times stronger who would be a silverback gorilla.... :D :D :p ;)
Cletus Funk 12-07-2004, 02:04 PM i read somewhere last week that if tzsyu does'nt fight him, the ibf will strip tzsyu and hatton will fight lovemore n'dou for the title. so either way he's in a major fight next year.
Yeah, I've heard that a few times too. I hope it is KT though as I can already hear the "paper champion" bull**** comments that will be coming his way if he does fight N'dou for it. :D
Silverfox 12-07-2004, 04:39 PM Its funny how things change, on Tszyu website his fans have been calling Hatton a bum last week but now the negotiations have progressed their all saying Hattons a very good fighter, some saying he's world class!! :D
What do you guys think? I'm unsure, IMO Hatton has the tools to win but he's never faced a fighter anywhere near as good as Tszyu!! It could be an early KO for Tszyu but i'm expecting it to be a tough fight for both.
Should be a great fight. Both love the close up in fighting. Hatton is a body puncher predominantly and had better have done his homework regarding Kostya's lethal right. Hatton will dig in a left to the the body & Kos will counter with his right.
I have a feeling in my bones that Kostya will finally meet his match.
However, I'm not putting my house on this one. My wife, maybe...but not the house!
I think Kostya has denied the negotiations to date. (8/12/04)
People closely watching Hatton's career (fans or otherwise) should know that he shouldn't be stepping-up to Kostya quite yet.
Despite all the careful handling, Hatton is simply not ready for a true first-tier fighter. Right now, he needs a bit more "care" before stepping-in with a Kostya.
Hatton might think he's mentally ready, but I'm not sure that he's got the necessary mental toughness to enter a tier-one slugfest. Right now, I think Ricky's "I don't give a ****" attitude cannot be effectively molded into true mental toughness without woking his way up to a Kostya bout.
Hatton might think he's got the chin and conditioning to survive good clean shots (Kostya will hit him ya' know) but Hatton's never been in there getting tagged by a first-tier banger who keeps throwing. Ricky needs a bigger challenge than he's had so far, but not quite Kostya, not yet.
Hatton's careful handling could be his undoing, because he now really "believes" that he can beat Kostya, without ever fighting at that level. Sure he's got "a" belt, but it's not been starpped to the top-tier guys.
Nodogoshi 12-10-2004, 06:23 PM I predict a tzyu KO after 5 and a half brutal rounds. I think they'll slug it out with both guys landing good shots but Tzyu landing more and better shots and with Tzyu banging Hatton with hooks whenever they fight on the inside.
Silverfox 12-10-2004, 10:13 PM So, either one fighter knocks the other one out or it goes to a decision? Wow, great analysis :rolleyes:
Anyway, just as Mayorga was "taylor-made" for Tito so, too, is Ricky "taylor-made" for the Tszyuperman. I don't see this fight going past 6, honestly.
Who is this guy 'Taylor' that you speak of?
Oh, sorry...........You must have meant 'Tailor?' ;)
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