View Full Version : Trinidad vs. Lacy, right now!


Exciterx24
05-27-2005, 02:11 PM
First it was against Jones. How about Trinidad vs. Lacy right now?

{BrownBomber}
05-27-2005, 02:54 PM
I dont think Lacy would give Tito a chance to even warm up. He would tko Trinidad in the first round. Trinidad is a natural welter and Lacy is just to big for him. Plus he took a pic with me which makes that much more dangerous. ;) :D

elveiel
05-27-2005, 02:57 PM
I dont think Lacy would give Tito a chance to even warm up. He would tko Trinidad in the first round. Trinidad is a natural welter and Lacy is just to big for him. Plus he took a pic with me which makes that much more dangerous. ;) :D

How strong would you say Lacy is?? thats a solid hand shake you have with him, when ever i shake someone's hand like that i can tell if the have natural strength or not.

neils7147933
05-27-2005, 02:58 PM
I'm not sure Trinidad would be able to walk out of the ring after Lacy was done with him.

scap
05-27-2005, 03:04 PM
I think Lacy would be too big and too strong for Tito but I may take this kind of fight if I was tito.

A few months ago or actually weeks ago I would have advised Tito to steer clear of Lacy but with the way Tito handles boxers with real skills he should jump at the chance to fight in a super high profile fight with a fellow brawler.

Sure Lacy is bigger but no one has ever been able to stand toe to toe with Tito and I think Lacy can and would do it but at the very least for Tito he could fight a guy that would fight his kind of fight. Forget about the weight for a minute(which is really hard to do) when has Tito ever lost a fight when his opponent was fighting his fight? The answer is he hasn't.

Good fight for both guys if Tito thinks he could be effective at that weight or at least a catch weight...Tito could restore his tarnished image against one of the most repectable super middles in the game and LAcy could try and do something no other fighter has ever done which is ko tito while fighting tito's fight.

Lacy by ko, I think he could eat enough Tito leather long enough for him to take the venom out of Felix's shot and then KO him.

neils7147933
05-27-2005, 03:08 PM
Lacy has one of the best chins in the business. It may take a fight against a notorious heavy-puncher to prove it, but he's taken some ridiculous shots his last few fights and barely flinched.

That's why when people say "Calzaghe over Lacy by KO" it's absolutely ridiculous. Calzaghe is the one with the suspect chin. Lacy has little to no defense and I've never seen him even get wobbled in any of the fights I've seen.

Alpha Male
05-27-2005, 03:09 PM
Lacy by a vicious KO. Puts Tito into permanent retirement.

{BrownBomber}
05-27-2005, 03:12 PM
How strong would you say Lacy is?? thats a solid hand shake you have with him, when ever i shake someone's hand like that i can tell if the have natural strength or not.

I dont think he tried to impress me with power but as you can see his hand is ****ing huge compared to my hand. My hand is a little over 8 inches long and its thick and he still goes around it. He is an athlete so im guesing he has plenty of strength, he was probably laughing cause I was pretty aggresive when I aproached him. I told him how he would **** up Hopkins and he just stayed quiet. I was a little drunk. :D

Tha Greatest
05-27-2005, 03:12 PM
42-3 is all I got to say for Trinidad

I agree with the BrownBomber

Lacy KO1 or maybe even 2 if Trinidad gets lucky

Trinidad is a fighter that usually does good against brawlers

but not Lacy....

RwK
05-27-2005, 03:28 PM
Ill be quite honest.....Lacy would have a field day with the skinny puncher. Jeff is a natural cruiserweight, and would bang Trinidad up pretty bad.

Trinidad would be lucky to survive 2 rounds.

borikua
05-27-2005, 03:35 PM
No one can go toe to toe against Tito, not even Lacy...Tito by TKO..

RwK
05-27-2005, 03:37 PM
No one can go toe to toe against Tito, not even Lacy...Tito by TKO..

He is too small though man. Tito should move back to 147 and clean up......not supermiddleweight.

borikua
05-27-2005, 03:46 PM
But Lacy just throw bombs leaving himself open and Tito is the better more accurate puncher btw the two...

And if Tito should move to any weight it should be to 154..

Exciterx24
05-27-2005, 03:47 PM
But Lacy just throw bombs leaving himself open and Tito is the better more accurate puncher btw the two...

And if Tito should move to any weight it should be to 154..

Pero Trinidad ya se quitó y nos jodimos pq no lo veremos ganar otro campeonato.

neils7147933
05-27-2005, 03:47 PM
But Lacy just throw bombs leaving himself open and Tito is the better more accurate puncher btw the two...

And if Tito should move to any weight it should be to 154..
Tito doesn't hit hard enough to bother Lacy...

borikua
05-27-2005, 03:56 PM
Tito doesn't hit hard enough to bother Lacy...

Yeah right....

Tha Greatest
05-27-2005, 03:58 PM
Yeah right....
It took him over 200 punches to take out Mayorga

Trinidad will get knocked out...

{BrownBomber}
05-27-2005, 03:59 PM
Tito doesn't hit hard enough to bother Lacy...
I dont think he has the power to stop Lacy bother yes but not enought to sto im from hiting Tito with bombs. Bombs Tito should never face.

Exciterx24
05-27-2005, 04:01 PM
It took him over 200 punches to take out Mayorga

Trinidad will get knocked out...

Mayorga has a terrific chin. Joppy was a natural middleweight and went down fast against Trinidad. Chin and size are not relative.

neils7147933
05-27-2005, 04:03 PM
Yeah right....

Mayorga is a welterweight. Lacy would come into the fight over 175 lbs...

Tha Greatest
05-27-2005, 04:03 PM
Mayorga has a terrific chin. Joppy was a natural middleweight and went down fast against Trinidad. Chin and size are not relative.
I would bet a couple thousand real dollars on this fight but Trinidad wont go up I bet...

Tha Greatest
05-27-2005, 04:04 PM
Mayorga is a welterweight. Lacy would come into the fight over 175 lbs...
LoL

Lacy would sent Trinidad into the hospital!! hahahah

neils7147933
05-27-2005, 04:04 PM
Mayorga has a terrific chin. Joppy was a natural middleweight and went down fast against Trinidad. Chin and size are not relative.

I haven't seen Lacy even been staggered in the half dozen fights I've seen him in. And he fights at SUPER MIDDLE, which is at least two divisions up from where Trinidad's opponents jump up from...

Exciterx24
05-27-2005, 04:06 PM
I haven't seen Lacy even been staggered in the half dozen fights I've seen him in. And he fights at SUPER MIDDLE, which is at least two divisions up from where Trinidad's opponents jump up from...

Well, maybe you missed Lacy vs. Sheika. He was stunned a few times.

neils7147933
05-27-2005, 04:08 PM
Well, maybe you missed Lacy vs. Sheika. He was stunned a few times.
Nope, didn't miss it. I wouldn't say that's an accurate statement.

Exciterx24
05-27-2005, 04:11 PM
Nope, didn't miss it. I wouldn't say that's an accurate statement.

Check out the highlights on the gallery. The slow motion shot of Sheika's right hand landing on Lacy's jaw. I have nothing else to add.

Tha Greatest
05-27-2005, 04:12 PM
Check out the highlights on the gallery. The slow motion shot of Sheika's right hand landing on Lacy's jaw. I have nothing else to add.
Omar Sheika is natarully way bigger than tito

Lacy would knockout Trinidad way to early

Trinidad doesnt gott the greatest chin

neils7147933
05-27-2005, 04:13 PM
Check out the highlights on the gallery. The slow motion shot of Sheika's right hand landing on Lacy's jaw. I have nothing else to add.
Getting hit with a hard shot doesn't mean you are stunned; how you react to the punch does.

Exciterx24
05-27-2005, 04:15 PM
Omar Sheika is natarully way bigger than tito

Lacy would knockout Trinidad way to early

Trinidad doesnt gott the greatest chin

The point discussed here is another one. It's about Lacy's chin in general. I am saying that Sheika stunned him and, thus, he's chin is not unbreakable.

{BrownBomber}
05-27-2005, 04:17 PM
The point discussed here is another one. It's about Lacy's chin in general. I am saying that Sheika stunned him and, thus, he's chin is not unbreakable.
Nobodys chin is unbreakable(Castillo)
Its just that Trinidads would break first.

Exciterx24
05-27-2005, 04:17 PM
Getting hit with a hard shot doesn't mean you are stunned; how you react to the punch does.

Just see the replay. I ain't making anything up. Lacy clearly reacted to that right hand. I ain't dissing the guy, you know, I just tell it like it was.

BrooklynBomber
05-27-2005, 04:19 PM
This is mismatch written all over it. Trinidad is a good fighter but the dude we talking about got granite chin, relentless offense and the will to overcome any obstacles.
BTW I kow thsi excon dude from philly who stood up toe-to-toe with Tito and owned him. So I would not say that tito is unbeatable in exchanges.
Oh and BTW LAcy is about 5 times stronger than Tito and Trinidad did not seem to bring all of his power up in a middleweight. Do you expect him to KO Lacy at supermiddle?

Exciterx24
05-27-2005, 04:20 PM
Nobodys chin is unbreakable(Castillo)
Its just that Trinidads would break first.

The unbreakable thing is a saying. I know anyone could go down or get hurt.

{BrownBomber}
05-27-2005, 04:21 PM
The unbreakable thing is a saying. I know anyone could go down or get hurt.
I know thats what im saying.

oldgringo
05-27-2005, 04:25 PM
Lacy would overwhelm Tito at this point. Usually straight punches do better than looping ones but not in this case. This is just one scenario where the bigger, stronger guy would win the fight. I'd say otherwise if Lacy was a banger with a **** chin, but he can take a lot of punishment. Nite-nite Tito inside of 9.

daddy31
05-27-2005, 05:33 PM
There's no way Tito will survive against Lacy!!!
Lacy is just too much for Tito, even if they go toe to toe, Trinidad doesn't have the chin to stand before Lacy, who will rip Tito's head off!

ottoevans
05-27-2005, 08:03 PM
Lacy by 187. Tito would not hurt Lacy and Lacy would just bully around for 4 whole min. Lacy looks like a ligh heavyweight and Tito looks like those lil kids in Africa starving

Truth
05-27-2005, 08:33 PM
I think I would go with Trinidad but this fight is a toss up in my opinion.

mauricio95
05-27-2005, 08:44 PM
lacy will destroy tito in 1 round
to much to strong for old felix 2 times retired trinidad

cornerman
05-27-2005, 10:37 PM
Lacy is just way to big for Trinidad, he has good power and a great chin. Im not even that sure that Tito is that powerful at 160 so at 168 i don't think he would be able to do much damage, especially not to someone with a chin as good as Lacy's. Lacy weould knock him out at some point preferably sooner rather than later then Tito dosn't take as much punishment.

Soldier01
05-27-2005, 11:20 PM
I'm a huge Tito fan but, I have to say Lacy. Lacy's just to big for him and I don't care how hard Tito hits. I'm just being realistic.

Exciterx24
05-27-2005, 11:22 PM
I'm a huge Tito fan but, I have to say Lacy. Lacy's just to big for him and I don't care how hard Tito hits. I'm just being realistic.

Request for the lounge again. There was some error last time and I could not add you.

Soldier01
05-27-2005, 11:30 PM
Request for the lounge again. There was some error last time and I could not add you.

Alright. I'll try again.

hollister
05-27-2005, 11:40 PM
Well, maybe you missed Lacy vs. Sheika. He was stunned a few times.

Thank you. Sheika wobbled him and made him cover up, and nobody thinks that Tito could even phase him? Tito also has much better stamina than Omar, and carries his power into the later rounds, the one thing that doomed Omar. Tito would look like a young Holy against Booker Word (that's right, wouldn't want to offend tyson by comparing) Tito wins by Unanimous dec. My two cents.

hollister
05-27-2005, 11:45 PM
You guys are also forgetting that Tito fights going both ways. Tito is a much better boxer than Lacy is a brawler, I don't think Tito would be stupid enough to stand and trade with Lacy, when he didn't do it against Mayorga...

MlLkMan
05-27-2005, 11:49 PM
Lacy is too big and has the stronger left.

as214
05-27-2005, 11:49 PM
You guys are also forgetting that Tito fights going both ways. Tito is a much better boxer than Lacy is a brawler, I don't think Tito would be stupid enough to stand and trade with Lacy, when he didn't do it against Mayorga...


Tito better boxer? Tito wouldnt be stupid enough? What?

onetwopunch
05-28-2005, 01:08 AM
Lacy would KO Tito right now, Tito can still be a force but he needs a better trainer.

RwK
05-28-2005, 08:34 AM
I watched the sheika fight yesterday....and he did not wobble him 1 time. He punched him...but if you mean Lacy can get hit then yes. I have no idea what you people are talking about when you say: "he had him stunned" thats retarded.

ottoevans
05-28-2005, 11:01 AM
You guys are also forgetting that Tito fights going both ways. Tito is a much better boxer than Lacy is a brawler, I don't think Tito would be stupid enough to stand and trade with Lacy, when he didn't do it against Mayorga...


wtf???? The man has no boxing skills whats so ever. He just throws bombs all day.

Truth
05-28-2005, 12:27 PM
You guys are also forgetting that Tito fights going both ways. Tito is a much better boxer than Lacy is a brawler, I don't think Tito would be stupid enough to stand and trade with Lacy, when he didn't do it against Mayorga...

He did do it against Mayorga...
http://www.hboppv.com/past_events/photo_galleries/trinidad_mayorga/6.jpg

hollister
05-28-2005, 02:14 PM
Tito better boxer? Tito wouldnt be stupid enough? What?

What doesn't make sense about that?

Lacy isn't a very skilled brawler, and Tito has looked pretty decent fighting in reverse. Tito boxed Mayorga, how is it so inconceivable that he might box Lacy?
Please explain to me why you don't understand.

hollister
05-28-2005, 02:16 PM
wtf???? The man has no boxing skills whats so ever. He just throws bombs all day.

So you're saying that you've never seen Tito fight in reverse?

hollister
05-28-2005, 02:17 PM
He did do it against Mayorga...
http://www.hboppv.com/past_events/photo_galleries/trinidad_mayorga/6.jpg

Thanks, at least one person didn't call me completely insane lol

Floydmayweather
05-28-2005, 02:31 PM
Tito could not hurt Lacy his chin is solid and he has been hit by bigger men. Lacy would make easy work of Tito.

hollister
05-28-2005, 02:57 PM
Lacy has also been taken the distance by fighters who are certainly not on Tito's level. My only point is that IMO, Tito would have the ability to stay away from Lacy if he started getting caught, and the sense to do so. Tito is 2 inches taller at 5'11, and Lacy has a 1 1/2 inch reach advantage at 74 in. Omar Sheika made Lacy stop punching and cover up, but ran out of gas. I don't see Tito running out of gas like that, and I really don't see Tito committing to his punches enough to hurt Lacy even if he did have enough power, but I do think he has enough power to make Lacy cover up like Omar did, and that could win him the fight provided he doesn't get caught along the way lol

Tha Greatest
05-28-2005, 03:01 PM
Anybody can outbox Mayorga.....ANYBODY

hollister
05-28-2005, 03:03 PM
Syd Vanderpool also made Lacy cover up and stop punching. Anyone who has watched Lacy knows that Lacy doesn't stop punching usually even if he is hit, he just walks through the shots. So if he covers up all of a sudden and stops punching, then IMO someone must have given him a reason to...
Just like when Joe Louis said Billy Conn never hurt him...Joe didn't back up unless he was hurt, and he backed up and hung on to Conn, that says he's hurt...