So I'm watching a replay tonight of the fights from Thursday night and.... Ok I just gotta say, no matter how much I try to get into Aussie boxing, the commentators just sh#t me right off! It's like they don't even know anything about boxing and just ramble on about random sh#t the whole time.

Not sure what the guys name is but they should fire him.... he's on every aus boxing event and I can't stand him. Not only that but they heavily favour the aussie fighter in every fight and only ever talk about how well he's doing even if he's doing terrible.

Sorry just had to rant, I'm an aussie but ffs I hate favouritism, commentators should be neutral and actually "know" what they're talking about. So painful to watch, would be better with no commentating and just the sounds of the gloves hitting flesh....:boxing:

on the youtube version of the Hoppa/Cameron fight, correct me if i'm wrong but after Hoppa got dq'd, did one of the commentators ask if that meant the fight was a draw.

on the youtube version of the Hoppa/Cameron fight, correct me if i'm wrong but after Hoppa got dq'd, did one of the commentators ask if that meant the fight was a draw.

LOL he sure did! Couldn't believe it, where do they find these guys???? And is it just me or do Aussie ref's call the fight way too early.... seems whenever anyone get's stunned it's game over.

would that have been jeff fenech? or the other one.

LOL he sure did! Couldn't believe it, where do they find these guys???? And is it just me or do Aussie ref's call the fight way too early.... seems whenever anyone get's stunned it's game over.

Yeah, imagine if Pac/Marquez 1 was in Australia, Marquez down 3 times in the 1st, he would of been stopped after the 1st knockdown.

I think the man you mean is Andy Raymond. His old man, Mike Raymond, was a motorsports commentator who talked absolute drivel. The **** apple didn't fall far from the **** tree.

It's probably hard to get talented people willing to commentate the dreary cards common in Australian boxing.

So I'm watching a replay tonight of the fights from Thursday night and.... Ok I just gotta say, no matter how much I try to get into Aussie boxing, the commentators just sh#t me right off! It's like they don't even know anything about boxing and just ramble on about random sh#t the whole time.

Not sure what the guys name is but they should fire him.... he's on every aus boxing event and I can't stand him. Not only that but they heavily favour the aussie fighter in every fight and only ever talk about how well he's doing even if he's doing terrible.

Sorry just had to rant, I'm an aussie but ffs I hate favouritism, commentators should be neutral and actually "know" what they're talking about. So painful to watch, would be better with no commentating and just the sounds of the gloves hitting flesh....:boxing:

I agree with the "how well he's doing even if he's doing terrible." I find it annoying how when an Aussie fight comes in with a flurry, even if like only 10% lands, the commentators go ape****.

This don't just apply to Western boxing, I watched a Thai boxing event where John Wayne Parr VS Sakmongkol, they sounded like they were advertising JWP the way they kept going "OHHHHHH! JAY DOUBYAH!" And even time they talk about Sakmongkol, its either a normal converse tone "and Sakmongkol" or "The Thai" as they always do with all Thai fighter.

I love JWP, but damn the commentary just plain sucks, just because you yelling and spitting all over the microphone, doesn't mean you're hyping up the fight. Makes the fight really painful to watch.

I agree with the "how well he's doing even if he's doing terrible." I find it annoying how when an Aussie fight comes in with a flurry, even if like only 10% lands, the commentators go ape****.

This don't just apply to Western boxing, I watched a Thai boxing event where John Wayne Parr VS Sakmongkol, they sounded like they were advertising JWP the way they kept going "OHHHHHH! JAY DOUBYAH!" And even time they talk about Sakmongkol, its either a normal converse tone "and Sakmongkol" or "The Thai" as they always do with all Thai fighter.

I love JWP, but damn the commentary just plain sucks, just because you yelling and spitting all over the microphone, doesn't mean you're hyping up the fight. Makes the fight really painful to watch.

Exactly man, completely agree!!!! I don't get why they don't replace these commentator's. They make it painful to watch these fights, I wanna hear unbiased factual commentary.... not random **** made up on the spot. At least hire commentators that actually like boxing or know anything about it!!!!

I agree with the "how well he's doing even if he's doing terrible." I find it annoying how when an Aussie fight comes in with a flurry, even if like only 10% lands, the commentators go ape****.

This don't just apply to Western boxing, I watched a Thai boxing event where John Wayne Parr VS Sakmongkol, they sounded like they were advertising JWP the way they kept going "OHHHHHH! JAY DOUBYAH!" And even time they talk about Sakmongkol, its either a normal converse tone "and Sakmongkol" or "The Thai" as they always do with all Thai fighter.

I love JWP, but damn the commentary just plain sucks, just because you yelling and spitting all over the microphone, doesn't mean you're hyping up the fight. Makes the fight really painful to watch.

If you are bagging out "The Voice" and "The Hammer" which I'm dead sure you are, then you are an out-and-out ****head. These guys make Muay Thai in Australia ****loads of fun and are an absolute credit to Thai boxing. Get a farken brain and stop jumping on the bag-out express that is typical of fickle Aussie fans.

I think the man you mean is Andy Raymond. His old man, Mike Raymond, was a motorsports commentator who talked absolute drivel. The **** apple didn't fall far from the **** tree.

It's probably hard to get talented people willing to commentate the dreary cards common in Australian boxing.

Commentators are such an easy target for wankers. How is fairly likeable Andy ever going to attain the lofty and incredibly coveted status of "talented enough for Cornwallis' liking"? I'd imagine if Aussie cards aren't up to your quite misplaced standards, then he simply won't be able to sway such an important fellow as yourself. I mean, talking boxing for a 6 card evening is easy isn't it?

Is this you btw?

http://www.spscriptorium.com/SPBios/HankeyCornwallis.jpg

i saw a Michael Katsidis fight with aussie commentators and all they talked about how great Kats is and every shot was amazing by him

I think the man you mean is Andy Raymond. His old man, Mike Raymond, was a motorsports commentator who talked absolute drivel. The **** apple didn't fall far from the **** tree.

It's probably hard to get talented people willing to commentate the dreary cards common in Australian boxing.

Raymond is an absolute disgrace. Has no clue about anything.

Commentators are such an easy target for wankers. How is fairly likeable Andy ever going to attain the lofty and incredibly coveted status of "talented enough for Cornwallis' liking"? I'd imagine if Aussie cards aren't up to your quite misplaced standards, then he simply won't be able to sway such an important fellow as yourself. I mean, talking boxing for a 6 card evening is easy isn't it?

Is this you btw?

http://www.spscriptorium.com/SPBios/HankeyCornwallis.jpg

Talking boxing for a few hours of a night is the easiest thing in the world. It's a global sport full of interesting characters and exciting fights happen regularly.

Andy Raymond is not a boxing expert. He's not actually an expert on any given sport. He's a generalist: jack of all sports commentary, but the master of none.

You only have to watch the Green-Jones fight to realise how out of touch he is with what's happening in the fight game. He went on as if Green's beating of Jones was of equal significance to Tarver's 2002 knock-out. That pretty much says it all - Raymond was seven years behind the times on that night.

I'm sure Andy is a likable fellow, and I'm sure his friends agree. I don't turn on the boxing wanting to make friends with the television hosts, but it would be nice to hear an intelligent and informed commentary on the action and this is simply beyond Andy's meagre talents.

The whole Main Event boxing crew is below average (though Briggs has potential if they let him do more). You only need look at Green's horrible post-fight rant to see they're completely in the thrall of the guys who fight. Not like a Larry Merchant or a Max Kellerman who are unafraid of confronting the sport's biggest stars with hard questions after big fights.

So go **** yourself with your stupid jokes about my name.

To "classicbuzzbox"...

No need to get fired up buddy but these commentators do indeed suck... and suck hard. They make the sport hard to watch, least they could do is commentate in and unbiased factual fashion.... they can still do the colour commentary aswell to keep things interesting and add a bit of flair. However at the moment it seems as if these guys have no clue.

Commentators are such an easy target for wankers. How is fairly likeable Andy ever going to attain the lofty and incredibly coveted status of "talented enough for Cornwallis' liking"? I'd imagine if Aussie cards aren't up to your quite misplaced standards, then he simply won't be able to sway such an important fellow as yourself. I mean, talking boxing for a 6 card evening is easy isn't it?

Is this you btw?

http://www.spscriptorium.com/SPBios/HankeyCornwallis.jpg

You have to have the most ****ed views on boxing of anyone I have ever come across.

You actually just called Andy Raymond "likeable". That is incredible.

The sport in this country is doomed with ppl like you following it.

Hahahaha ^werd

Commentators are such an easy target for wankers. How is fairly likeable Andy ever going to attain the lofty and incredibly coveted status of "talented enough for Cornwallis' liking"? I'd imagine if Aussie cards aren't up to your quite misplaced standards, then he simply won't be able to sway such an important fellow as yourself. I mean, talking boxing for a 6 card evening is easy isn't it?

Is this you btw?

http://www.spscriptorium.com/SPBios/HankeyCornwallis.jpg

Raymond has not Idea about the fight game. If you can't see that, then I don't know what to say.

Raymond sucks balls. (Childish I Know)

Talking boxing for a few hours of a night is the easiest thing in the world. It's a global sport full of interesting characters and exciting fights happen regularly.

Andy Raymond is not a boxing expert. He's not actually an expert on any given sport. He's a generalist: jack of all sports commentary, but the master of none.

You only have to watch the Green-Jones fight to realise how out of touch he is with what's happening in the fight game. He went on as if Green's beating of Jones was of equal significance to Tarver's 2002 knock-out. That pretty much says it all - Raymond was seven years behind the times on that night.

I'm sure Andy is a likable fellow, and I'm sure his friends agree. I don't turn on the boxing wanting to make friends with the television hosts, but it would be nice to hear an intelligent and informed commentary on the action and this is simply beyond Andy's meagre talents.

The whole Main Event boxing crew is below average (though Briggs has potential if they let him do more). You only need look at Green's horrible post-fight rant to see they're completely in the thrall of the guys who fight. Not like a Larry Merchant or a Max Kellerman who are unafraid of confronting the sport's biggest stars with hard questions after big fights.

So go **** yourself with your stupid jokes about my name.

I agree with this post 100%. But I loved that bit the most, because that's what my Dad said last time I was talking Aussie boxing with him.

Talking boxing for a few hours of a night is the easiest thing in the world. It's a global sport full of interesting characters and exciting fights happen regularly.

If commentating for hours on boxing is easy in your mind then obviously having any respect for those that do it is going to be impossible. These guys aren't talking about global boxing, they are calling the fight at hand you complete dead****. They do this fight after fight, card after card. The only easy thing about this issue is typing uninformed horse**** like you have done.

Andy Raymond is not a boxing expert. He's not actually an expert on any given sport. He's a generalist: jack of all sports commentary, but the master of none.

I must be one of few realistic Aussies left on here. They do a great job and are, like I said before, an easy target for total tossers. You only have to listen to boxers like Daniel Geale with Andy calling a fight. Daniel zones out and just watches the action and is forever getting prompted to talk. Andy is a great filler for blokes like Briggs to come in and give specifics based on actual ring experience. There are alot of examples however that for the most part, boxers don't make good commentators.

You only have to watch the Green-Jones fight to realise how out of touch he is with what's happening in the fight game. He went on as if Green's beating of Jones was of equal significance to Tarver's 2002 knock-out. That pretty much says it all - Raymond was seven years behind the times on that night.

The facts are that Green was in most peoples mind a massive underdog that night. The way he won got most Australian people overexcited. The commentry box, including Briggs were not immune and got carried away. It's only the wankers on this sooky forum that couldn't give props to Green, a limited boxer who fought a much faded ATG, but who was expected to pile on the punishment the entire fight without trouble. Green won the only way he could; an early knockout and the whole scene was quite incredible in boxing terms IF one can remember the scene at that moment.

Now we are looking back in hindsight some time later and some of those comments are quite embarrassing. One needs to remember though that these guys call a huge amount of fights and if you base your narrow opinions on some comments made during one of Australia's largest fights, then you are using your internet anonymity to be unnecessarily heroic after the fact.

I'm sure Andy is a likable fellow, and I'm sure his friends agree. I don't turn on the boxing wanting to make friends with the television hosts, but it would be nice to hear an intelligent and informed commentary on the action and this is simply beyond Andy's meagre talents.

:wank:

The whole Main Event boxing crew is below average (though Briggs has potential if they let him do more). You only need look at Green's horrible post-fight rant to see they're completely in the thrall of the guys who fight. Not like a Larry Merchant or a Max Kellerman who are unafraid of confronting the sport's biggest stars with hard questions after big fights.

Why not head over to NSB and put a thread to the yanks that a) Max Kellerman is unafraid to ask the big questions and b) that you have respect for Larry Merchant. Max Kellerman cannot get off the balls of many boxers, especially those pushed by the hand that feeds him, which is in direct contrast to the **** posted above about him and Larry Merchant isn't "unafraid", he is an ******* without one shred of respect for boxers in general and his post fight questions are awful to watch after some boxer has tried his heart out for 12 rounds for the ****head public only to have a ****head like Merchant open his :wank: mouth. You are just name dropping here and you are a fake.

So go **** yourself with your stupid jokes about my name.

That was no joke. You truly have corn peices within you steamer.

You have to have the most ****ed views on boxing of anyone I have ever come across.

You actually just called Andy Raymond "likeable". That is incredible.

The sport in this country is doomed with ppl like you following it.

Not as incredible as the typical bag-the-****-out-of-all-things-local shameless apologist politically correct wanna-be journo hack that picks on all the things Australia will never be able to compete in on a level playing field. With all the money in US boxing televising plus their massive population and those mongs have Teddy "I've had a ****ing meltdown today and am going to only notice one boxer the whole fight" Atlas, Joe "you'll need a crowbar to get me off Teddy's ****-and-balls" Tessitore and Larry "old ****head" Merchant with a drizzling of brain numbing commentry by Lennox Lewis!!!???? They have whole legions of detractors and we are here sniping easy targets like Andy Raymond.

The Colonel Bob Sheridan is the pick for me for US commentry and I like how he makes the trip down-under every now and then. Teaming up with the "big A" would be the go I think.

The sport in this country is doomed with ppl like you following it.

I agree with this post 100%. But I loved that bit the most, because that's what my Dad said last time I was talking Aussie boxing with him.

Now this is a guy with ****ed views on boxing. Good to see you're a chip off the old block mate.

the aussie forum finally has sprung back into life!

I would definitely like more knowledgeable unbiased commentators.. but that's Australian boxing... for ya...

Anyone seen the latest main event adds for RJJ Vs Hopkins? built up as the fight to see who get's to fight the legendary Green for hes world title? WOW I LOVE MAIN EVENT!!

Since boxing first arrived on television there have been numerous commentators and they have all endured a great deal of criticism.
One aspect of their careers however is the fact that they have
been passionate about the sport and they do become so carried
away with their comments I can't recall the number of moments
I was left cringing.Over the years Ron Casey of Sydney and Melbourne
Ron 'Won' Casey,Merv Williams,Ted Whitten,Andy Raymond,Jeff Fenech
Adam Watt,Barry Michael,Shannan Taylor and numerous others
have copped the flak of viewers.Without the efforts of these men,
many of them actually pressing their networks to televise boxing despite
criticism and poor ratings we would be lucky to be seeing any boxing
on the small screen at all.What happened to the much-heralded
live boxing on ONE.Four shows were in the main great viewing...but there
was nothing in it for the network....they lacked a true passion for the sport
and they spat it out as quickly as they engulfed it.So if men like Raymond,
Michael etc were not passionate about boxing we might be looking
at no live boxing,but documentaries from yesteryear.

So I'm watching a replay tonight of the fights from Thursday night and.... Ok I just gotta say, no matter how much I try to get into Aussie boxing, the commentators just sh#t me right off! It's like they don't even know anything about boxing and just ramble on about random sh#t the whole time.

Not sure what the guys name is but they should fire him.... he's on every aus boxing event and I can't stand him. Not only that but they heavily favour the aussie fighter in every fight and only ever talk about how well he's doing even if he's doing terrible.

Sorry just had to rant, I'm an aussie but ffs I hate favouritism, commentators should be neutral and actually "know" what they're talking about. So painful to watch, would be better with no commentating and just the sounds of the gloves hitting flesh....:boxing:



terrible ......much worse than the sky sports team......and they are really terrible.

Since boxing first arrived on television there have been numerous commentators and they have all endured a great deal of criticism.
One aspect of their careers however is the fact that they have
been passionate about the sport and they do become so carried
away with their comments I can't recall the number of moments
I was left cringing.Over the years Ron Casey of Sydney and Melbourne
Ron 'Won' Casey,Merv Williams,Ted Whitten,Andy Raymond,Jeff Fenech
Adam Watt,Barry Michael,Shannan Taylor and numerous others
have copped the flak of viewers.Without the efforts of these men,
many of them actually pressing their networks to televise boxing despite
criticism and poor ratings we would be lucky to be seeing any boxing
on the small screen at all.What happened to the much-heralded
live boxing on ONE.Four shows were in the main great viewing...but there
was nothing in it for the network....they lacked a true passion for the sport
and they spat it out as quickly as they engulfed it.So if men like Raymond,
Michael etc were not passionate about boxing we might be looking
at no live boxing,but documentaries from yesteryear.

Well that was a bolt out of the blue, thanks for that, twas a good read. Commentators here get hammered and it's good to see our local product put into perspective with regards to low ratings for boxing. I'd imagine boxing in Australia relies heavily on a core few blokes in the right places in the foxtel hierarchy and no doubt the sports betting side has a bit to do with it, but all in all it seems to be slowly heading the way of the dinosaur.

Originally Posted by mesher
So I'm watching a replay tonight of the fights from Thursday night and.... Ok I just gotta say, no matter how much I try to get into Aussie boxing, the commentators just sh#t me right off! It's like they don't even know anything about boxing and just ramble on about random sh#t the whole time.

Not sure what the guys name is but they should fire him.... he's on every aus boxing event and I can't stand him. Not only that but they heavily favour the aussie fighter in every fight and only ever talk about how well he's doing even if he's doing terrible.

Sorry just had to rant, I'm an aussie but ffs I hate favouritism, commentators should be neutral and actually "know" what they're talking about. So painful to watch, would be better with no commentating and just the sounds of the gloves hitting flesh....

OK I've gotta say, no matter how much I try to understand this ****, do you actually "know" anything about boxing yourself? It's like you don't even know anything about boxing and just ramble on about random sh#t the whole time.

"I don't know the commentator who ****s me, I don't know the fighters involved, I don't know what the fu.ck I'm on about, but the Aussie was doing badly (likely against another local fighter no doubt lol). They are heavily favour the aussie fighter in every fight (I'm going out on a limb here and suggesting that the majority of fights had two Aussies fighting, which makes that a farking classic). The commentators actually "know" less about boxing than I do about the topic I've chosen to ***** about, which is f%%king saying something. I hate favoritism, but I can't get into local boxing, but I can get on Manny's nutz.....:wank:, :wank:, :wank:"

Mate, just watch the yank boxing, sig Manny (got that covered), ramble on a load of random **** (got that covered) and slag off Aussie boxing with a vague and whingy horse **** rant (got that covered). You should be an Aussie forum mod with so many common traits you would definantly be representing the majority here.

Do you watch any fights at all from overseas classic, or do you only watch the local stuff?

I have a feeling the Aus commentator we're all bagging out is classicbuzzbox's dad or some sh#t lol. Get over it sonny, he sux hard, australian boxing would be much better off without him.

I have a feeling the Aus commentator we're all bagging out is classicbuzzbox's dad or some sh#t lol. Get over it sonny, he sux hard, australian boxing would be much better off without him.

He just seems to have some real issues with ppl saying anything negative about Australian boxing. Usually when ppl are over-sensitive like that deep down they know that there are major problems but are deluding themselves.

It is beyond doubt that Australian boxing commentary is disgraceful. To believe otherwise is practically retarded.

He just seems to have some real issues with ppl saying anything negative about Australian boxing. Usually when ppl are over-sensitive like that deep down they know that there are major problems but are deluding themselves.

It is beyond doubt that Australian boxing commentary is disgraceful. To believe otherwise is practically retarded.

Werd to that Danny boy!