My point is this: When Tszyu was to fight Mitchell, the boxing world was relatively split between who they thought would win. In many polls, Mitchell came out on top by small margins.

After Tszyu destroyed a sloppy Sharmba, many people were quick to dismiss Mitchell as average, saying he hadnt fought anyone etc etc, which took away from the win.

I'm just wondering if this will happen after the Hatton fight should Tszyu win? Will people's suspicions that Hatton has not left his backyard and is a pretender take the shine off what would be a great win in hostile territory? Or will Tszyu get the props he derserves?

Just curious :)

that W over an undefeated young prime fighter in his own country is good enough for me

Tszyu has all the accolades in the world. He has beaten a lot of top fighters.

Tsyzu has a good fighter in front of him. Anyone in their right mind should give him credit for winning anyway he can!

Hatton is a TOUGH fight!... If he beats Hatton, I'd give him massive respect! (Not that I already don't!)

KT knocked out the unified 147 pound champ with a couple of lazor guided right hands...he already has my respect regardless of what happens against the green hitman.

He earned my respect when he beat Sharmba, he made Sharmba look like the fighter coming off a layoff.

Thank you all for your kind words :-)

I, Kostya, am very flattered

I already give Tszyu props. He's a damned good fighter and deserves all the respect in the world. He'll take care of Hatton, but those that dont like him still wont credit him for it.

i give ZOO a ton of props but this fight with hatton will be just a tuneup for him. he will use his accurate punches and great power to get rid of hatton early, what i really want to see is a reamtch with jab judah who has more than earned a shot at Zoo

i give ZOO a ton of props but this fight with hatton will be just a tuneup for him. he will use his accurate punches and great power to get rid of hatton early, what i really want to see is a reamtch with jab judah who has more than earned a shot at Zoo

I'd like to see that too, but expect Tszyu to take care of him (again) fairly easy

I'd like to see that too, but expect Tszyu to take care of him (again) fairly easy
i dont know, zab has greatly imporved since there first fight and he really seams focused right now. zab is hitting his prime right now and with zoo's inactivity/age it is conceivable that his skills have takin a hit.

I already give Tszyu props. He's a damned good fighter and deserves all the respect in the world. He'll take care of Hatton, but those that dont like him still wont credit him for it.

Myself too. To me, KT beating Hatton is expected because of his experience. The fact that he's on top of his game at 35 is it why this would make the win impressive.

I might be in the minority but I think Hatton will give Tszyu a tougher than expected fight. My pick is Tszyu by stoppage but I think he will have to eat some good shots especially to the body before breaking Hatton down in the end. Hatton's style and quickness could make this a very tough hard fight for Tszyu. An all out war wouldn't be out of the question either.

who has questioned tszyu before? who has NOT given him his due props, besides some judah fans, and even then, most of them recognize...

only doubt in the mitchell fight was whether the long layoff would affect him, and sharmba was rolling at the time, so obviously theres some doubt whenever someone comes off a long layoff, but KT's always gotten his props...

You can't take anythign from Tszyu and especially if he turns back this young lion you gotta give it up to him.

The ONLY thing I usually try to play when in a stupid argument is that he's only defended a relatively few times compared to the length of time he's had the title but he's had good reason; injuries and such.

I might be in the minority but I think Hatton will give Tszyu a tougher than expected fight. My pick is Tszyu by stoppage but I think he will have to eat some good shots especially to the body before breaking Hatton down in the end. Hatton's style and quickness could make this a very tough hard fight for Tszyu. An all out war wouldn't be out of the question either.
I agree with you... Hatton brings more to the table than just a chin ready to be hit by Kostya! This is gonna be a tough fight for Kostya Tszyu.

Most definitely.......Hatton is most definitely a worthy contender and most definitely a future world champion............

fighting such a young gun (whilst relatively old at 36) in front of a huge home crowd is IMO Tszyu's biggest challenge thus far...

shall he win he will definitely receive tons of props (except from mayweather nuthuggers).

The matter of which he wins will decide what props he'll recieve.
If he shuts out Hatton and wins easily, I suspect that people will come up with excuses like Hatton's overrated, not ready etc...

only people who have not really followed his career and seen just how devastating he is write him off. they will all see

If I could choose how this fight goes:

Hatton comes out bombing, Tszyu shows his calm and settles in, showing off some great boxing skills (which he has dont forget!).

Hatton is a little shaken but keeps bombing and pressuring Tszyu, while Kostya continues to outbox him.

While he could have won on points, late in the 8th Tszyu rocks Hatton and puts him down for the count.

I'll be at my local with a beer cheering that on.

:D

only people who have not really followed his career and seen just how devastating he is write him off. they will all see
That's bull**** man... Coz' I've followed Kostya Tszyu for years... I've got loads of his fights on vid and I reckon this will be a close fight. I think it's the other way around actually... I think people that are simply dissmissing Hatton haven't really seen any of his fights!

i dont know, zab has greatly imporved since there first fight and he really seams focused right now. zab is hitting his prime right now and with zoo's inactivity/age it is conceivable that his skills have takin a hit.

Hey, when Zab acts his age, he can accomplish alot of good things, but he's just not of the same caliber that Tszyu is my opinion. I think if they fought 10 times, KT would beat him 10 times.

simple answer: no
lol

Hey, when Zab acts his age, he can accomplish alot of good things, but he's just not of the same caliber that Tszyu is my opinion. I think if they fought 10 times, KT would beat him 10 times.

thats where your wrong judah would take half at least..especially at 147..when has judah been hurt by a punch other than the perfectly placed punch by kostya tsyzu????? he was alittle out of it and got up to fast but he did not go unconcious..judahs other knockdowns in other fights have been flash knockdowns mostly frmo balance..every likes to say that judah has no chin and the first punch he will go down..tsyzu jus hit him whne hewas moving back and he got up too fast and as a result his legs werent there

thats where your wrong judah would take half at least..especially at 147..when has judah been hurt by a punch other than the perfectly placed punch by kostya tsyzu????? he was alittle out of it and got up to fast but he did not go unconcious..judahs other knockdowns in other fights have been flash knockdowns mostly frmo balance..every likes to say that judah has no chin and the first punch he will go down..tsyzu jus hit him whne hewas moving back and he got up too fast and as a result his legs werent there

I dont question Judahs chin...it's all about KT's right hand. Just cause he knocks people out, that doesnt necessairly mean they have weak chins. KT hits hard as hell! I see him hurting Judah every time he lands it, and he would find a way to do just that.

Kostya has the respect of the boxing world in his division, he is the man he beat Zab, Mitchell, Diobelis Hurtado..etc..

simple answer: no
lol
your opinion doesn't count

so shut your arrogant ass up

your opinion doesn't count

so shut your arrogant ass up

For real...I hate when people make a two or three word comment and give nothing to back up that 'opinion'. How the hell do you debate with something like that anyway? :confused:

I don't see Hatton giving Kostya too many troubles. If Hatton was a tad more experienced (like had he fought vivian harris or emmanuel burton) then I'd say this fight would probably be close.

I expect Zoo to hammer Hatton. Hatton's defense is POOR. Kostya will not be able to miss Hatton.

tzu already got props from me...sharba aint no joke and look what tzu did to em..dat **** was unbelievable

Ive already given props to tszyu. he's the best. but he took this easy hatton fight for the money. he's been smiling at his bankbook ever since he was vacationing in russia and got the offer. the chances of him getting hurt are almost nil. and it could be a typical zoo fight and be a short one. second tier hatton is like the son and tszyu is the dad.

this is a good tuneup for tszyu. hopefully he gets in a rematch with zab . and a fight with *****boyfloyd.

i'd really like to see a corrales/tszyu at 140 before he retires.

Ive already given props to tszyu. he's the best. but he took this easy hatton fight for the money. he's been smiling at his bankbook ever since he was vacationing in russia and got the offer. the chances of him getting hurt are almost nil. and it could be a typical zoo fight and be a short one. second tier hatton is like the son and tszyu is the dad.

this is a good tuneup for tszyu. hopefully he gets in a rematch with zab . and a fight with *****boyfloyd.

i'd really like to see a corrales/tszyu at 140 before he retires.

I completely expect KT to win this one by ko, or tko (on cuts or otherwise) but I have to give Hatton a little credit by not saying it will be 'easy' for KT. Hatton does have an impressive body attack and can be quite brutal with it, and having thousands of fans backing him up does wonders for the morale...I do stand by my opinion of KT getting the win, but not necessairly an easy one.

I completely expect KT to win this one by ko, or tko (on cuts or otherwise) but I have to give Hatton a little credit by not saying it will be 'easy' for KT. Hatton does have an impressive body attack and can be quite brutal with it, and having thousands of fans backing him up does wonders for the morale...I do stand by my opinion of KT getting the win, but not necessairly an easy one.

I dont know much about Hatton, but I doubt that KT is just gonna come out and brutalize him like most think is gonna happen. Then again, I thought that Sharmba was gonna give him trouble. :eek:

I dont know much about Hatton, but I doubt that KT is just gonna come out and brutalize him like most think is gonna happen. Then again, I thought that Sharmba was gonna give him trouble. :eek:

Youre not alone there, alot of people thought Mitchell was gonna be a problem for him (thankfully I, for ONCE, wasnt one though :D ) so thats not so shameful. Like I said, I fully expect this to be Tszyu's fight, but he's not going to just walk into the ring and pop Hatton once or twice and then go home. He will have to work for it a little atleast. Hatton may fight in his own back yard all the time, and his record may be a little 'soft' in places, but he is still a solid fighter with an amazing body attack, which Tszyu will feel. Moving the head is easy, but the body doesnt exactly go anywhere. I'm sure KT can take it, but he will be feeling it the next day for sure. Otherwise this fight wouldnt be worth watching...not if there wasnt some competition.

Youre not alone there, alot of people thought Mitchell was gonna be a problem for him (thankfully I, for ONCE, wasnt one though :D ) so thats not so shameful. Like I said, I fully expect this to be Tszyu's fight, but he's not going to just walk into the ring and pop Hatton once or twice and then go home. He will have to work for it a little atleast. Hatton may fight in his own back yard all the time, and his record may be a little 'soft' in places, but he is still a solid fighter with an amazing body attack, which Tszyu will feel. Moving the head is easy, but the body doesnt exactly go anywhere. I'm sure KT can take it, but he will be feeling it the next day for sure. Otherwise this fight wouldnt be worth watching...not if there wasnt some competition.


My birthday is the night of the fight, I'm calling showtime and telling them that I'm thinking about subscribing, but I want a free preview for the weekend to check it out. I think I'm gonna get away with it.

Lol, exactly HOW did I 'hijack' it?? :rolleyes: What the hell are you crying about now McKay??(or do you even know)

Uh hu...you deleted it huh..whatever for?




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My birthday is the night of the fight, I'm calling showtime and telling them that I'm thinking about subscribing, but I want a free preview for the weekend to check it out. I think I'm gonna get away with it.


Sadly, they dont care about nobodys B-day buddy..sorry :(
Seriously though, you should subscribe cause of all the good fighters they carry, and ShoBox too. Besides that, they do show alot of new, good movies. I'd be lost without my Sho! :eek:
P.S. You know if you miss it I'll send you a copy, right? Consider it a B-day gift! ;)

Sadly, they dont care about nobodys B-day buddy..sorry :(
Seriously though, you should subscribe cause of all the good fighters they carry, and ShoBox too. Besides that, they do show alot of new, good movies. I'd be lost without my Sho! :eek:
P.S. You know if you miss it I'll send you a copy, right? Consider it a B-day gift! ;)


I know they dont care about my birthday, im just feeling lucky that they might give me a free preview if they know they could have a future subscriber. Cross your fingers.

I know they dont care about my birthday, im just feeling lucky that they might give me a free preview if they know they could have a future subscriber. Cross your fingers.


they are now crossed..good luck pal ;)

they are now crossed..good luck pal ;)

thank you. I hope i'm not too drunk to remember the :boxing:

thank you. I hope i'm not too drunk to remember the :boxing:

that would put a slight damper on things, and there's always the hangover the next morning to contend with :(

the guy has everyones props already he beat zab judah beat sharmba mitchell beat julio cesar chavez beat leija he has earned respect and beating hatton would just top that o and if he fought gatti he would knock out gatti in under 2 rounds

In my opinion Tszyu will have a relatively easy time getting to Ricky hatton. Here is my reasonsing. At first the fight might be neck and neck as Hatton does throw punches in bunches and he does try to at least come to fight. However here is the problem While this might work for a round or two against Tszyu it wont work for long. Hatton, like Mizelchelski, Valuev, and Calzaghe have had precisely guided careers. They only fight in their little small niche of the world and are sheltered from the "Real" boxing world. Their opponents are hand picked to perfectly match up against thier style making them look as though they are unstoppable and are the complete boxing package. Tzsyu has fought everyone and not ducked anybody. he has been able to fight people of varying styles and ability level and has been in the "Deep water". Much Like Jermain Taylor, and Kermit Cintron, I think that Hatton is being prematurly fed to the lions. Hatton will get caught in the deep water and not know what to do. Hatton is not adaptable in the ring and has not fought anyone nearly on the level of a Kotsya Tzsyu. Notice Tzsyu's fights earlier in 04' when asked about Hatton he commented Hatton who? This kid was not even on his radar. Hatton hadn't made a name for himself then and still has not made a name for himself. He has not beat any of the trial horses necessary to get to the title, and he has been unwilling to try out any of the other budding talent in the division. You dont get to the champion by beating B class and over the hill fighters. Now if Hatton had beat Lovemore N Dou (one of the divisions gatekeepers) or Demarcus Corley or Hurtado or someone like that then maybe he would be prepped for a title shot. In my opinion he is not ready and when he gets caught in the deep water Tzsyu is going to take him out at that point.

In my opinion Tszyu will have a relatively easy time getting to Ricky hatton. Here is my reasonsing. At first the fight might be neck and neck as Hatton does throw punches in bunches and he does try to at least come to fight. However here is the problem While this might work for a round or two against Tszyu it wont work for long. Hatton, like Mizelchelski, Valuev, and Calzaghe have had precisely guided careers. They only fight in their little small niche of the world and are sheltered from the "Real" boxing world. Their opponents are hand picked to perfectly match up against thier style making them look as though they are unstoppable and are the complete boxing package. Tzsyu has fought everyone and not ducked anybody. he has been able to fight people of varying styles and ability level and has been in the "Deep water". Much Like Jermain Taylor, and Kermit Cintron, I think that Hatton is being prematurly fed to the lions. Hatton will get caught in the deep water and not know what to do. Hatton is not adaptable in the ring and has not fought anyone nearly on the level of a Kotsya Tzsyu. Notice Tzsyu's fights earlier in 04' when asked about Hatton he commented Hatton who? This kid was not even on his radar. Hatton hadn't made a name for himself then and still has not made a name for himself. He has not beat any of the trial horses necessary to get to the title, and he has been unwilling to try out any of the other budding talent in the division. You dont get to the champion by beating B class and over the hill fighters. Now if Hatton had beat Lovemore N Dou (one of the divisions gatekeepers) or Demarcus Corley or Hurtado or someone like that then maybe he would be prepped for a title shot. In my opinion he is not ready and when he gets caught in the deep water Tzsyu is going to take him out at that point.

Thats quite a post for only your second....welcome to the site! :)

In my opinion Tszyu will have a relatively easy time getting to Ricky hatton. Here is my reasonsing. At first the fight might be neck and neck as Hatton does throw punches in bunches and he does try to at least come to fight. However here is the problem While this might work for a round or two against Tszyu it wont work for long. Hatton, like Mizelchelski, Valuev, and Calzaghe have had precisely guided careers. They only fight in their little small niche of the world and are sheltered from the "Real" boxing world. Their opponents are hand picked to perfectly match up against thier style making them look as though they are unstoppable and are the complete boxing package. Tzsyu has fought everyone and not ducked anybody. he has been able to fight people of varying styles and ability level and has been in the "Deep water". Much Like Jermain Taylor, and Kermit Cintron, I think that Hatton is being prematurly fed to the lions. Hatton will get caught in the deep water and not know what to do. Hatton is not adaptable in the ring and has not fought anyone nearly on the level of a Kotsya Tzsyu. Notice Tzsyu's fights earlier in 04' when asked about Hatton he commented Hatton who? This kid was not even on his radar. Hatton hadn't made a name for himself then and still has not made a name for himself. He has not beat any of the trial horses necessary to get to the title, and he has been unwilling to try out any of the other budding talent in the division. You dont get to the champion by beating B class and over the hill fighters. Now if Hatton had beat Lovemore N Dou (one of the divisions gatekeepers) or Demarcus Corley or Hurtado or someone like that then maybe he would be prepped for a title shot. In my opinion he is not ready and when he gets caught in the deep water Tzsyu is going to take him out at that point.

same thoughts i said earlier in this thread but you articulated better.

KT will gest past Hatton. The next big fight would be KT vs Floyd Mayweather