View Full Version : HAHAHAHAHA! Valuev is Ruiz's next mandatory...


TyrantT316
05-26-2005, 05:31 AM
I feel bad for the guy...do you guys think Ruiz could hug the big giant to sleep?

The Troll
05-26-2005, 07:22 AM
I feel bad for the guy...do you guys think Ruiz could hug the big giant to sleep?


I cant believe Valuev is already the #1 contender for the WBA just by beating Entienne. Ruiz hugging tactics would have no effect against Valuev. If Ruiz wins this fight, he is going to have to outbox Valuev to do it. Valuev is a cheater and John is a cheater this fixes to be an interesting wierd fight. It wount be a grapple fest. When Entienne tried to grappe Valuev he got himself in nothing but hurt. John is alot more skilled boxer than Valuev and faster and he hits pretty hard, I think Ruiz could take Valuev.

spinksjinx
05-26-2005, 07:33 AM
Very interesting fight for both fighters, we will get to see Ruiz against a tall opponent and see how he handles it. Valuev will be tested against a world class champion.

Tough fight to pick, ugly as hell though.

I am a bit disappointed that this fight is happening instead of against Lamon.

Nothing will ever get accomplished in the heavyweight division.

SnoopySmurf
05-26-2005, 08:39 AM
Ruiz is a bum and will lose. Naturally. He should move to wrestling if he wants to save his brain cells or be a VW mechanic and try to move it with his left hook as someone once said.

Stickman
05-26-2005, 08:56 AM
Are you serious? That means Valuev is going to have a title soon...hugging isn't going to work against a 7' giant, who can pummel you into the dirt with sheer brute force, and Ruiz can't box. I hope Valuev stays off roids for a good long while before the fight. If he does, maybe nothing can save Ruiz's title this time.

AintGottaClue
05-26-2005, 09:06 AM
Valuev is gonan get DQ'd, i heard in the cliff E fighjt that cliff actually showed up to fight but was only getting rabbit punched and thrown to the ground untill he gave up

Bombardier
05-26-2005, 09:07 AM
Whenever I see Valuev fight I'm reminded of an old joke you hear a lot up here in Canada about hockey. People like to say that if you took the biggest, fattest guy and stuck him in as goalie he would be the best goalie in history because he would take up the entire area of the net and would just have to stand there and block pucks.

Valuev is the boxing equivalent of this idea...take a guy who looks and fights like a brown bear and see if he can overwhelm all the opposition with nothing but pure mass.

Stickman
05-26-2005, 09:09 AM
Valuev is gonan get DQ'd, i heard in the cliff E fighjt that cliff actually showed up to fight but was only getting rabbit punched and thrown to the ground untill he gave up
I didn't get to see that fight (not televised on a channel I have). Can anybody verify this? I'd hate to see Ruiz win another defense through a DQ or NC. Someone's gotta get rid of the guy. Hopefully, if Valuev does get DQ'd, Ruiz's next match will be against Klitchko and he'll finally be finished for good. Nothing says "You're a loser" like waking up prone on the canvas, followed by a ride to the ER.

AintGottaClue
05-26-2005, 10:05 AM
Cliff E. came into the fight at 217 pounds and in the best shape ever in his career, lookign for a win, but all valuev did was thorw him down on the ground and rabbit punch him into submission

Bad Intentions
05-26-2005, 10:15 AM
This is the 1st time id ever route for Ruiz to win, Even though I think Vaulev will win cuz Ruiz is a Bum. It would be interesting, even more so if it had been Toney vs Vaulev

SnoopySmurf
05-26-2005, 10:21 AM
I didn't get to see that fight (not televised on a channel I have). Can anybody verify this? I'd hate to see Ruiz win another defense through a DQ or NC. Someone's gotta get rid of the guy. Hopefully, if Valuev does get DQ'd, Ruiz's next match will be against Klitchko and he'll finally be finished for good. Nothing says "You're a loser" like waking up prone on the canvas, followed by a ride to the ER.

I saw the fight last night. Cliff was connecting but none of his round house right punches that connected had any affect on Nicolai. Nicolai is very mobile for a big guy and his jabs were quite affective in keeping Cliff bobbing and weaving most of the rounds. SOmetimes, Nicolai, though not legal, would just stick his left glove on Cliff's face. He staggered Cliff a few times but Cliff would valiantly try to connect. One of those exchanges, Cliff tried to chase Nicolai but suddenly Nicolia stopped and pushed Cliff away. Cliff took a hard fall to the canvas. Seemed to have gotten a bit stunned by that as well.

The end came in the 4th round. Nicolai hit him a few times and Cliff went down. But he got up quickly but got caught again. Here's where the contreversy starts. In this exchange, Cliff was trying to get close to Nicolai but he walked into a left. Cliff tried to duck the next punch and tried to get under Nicolai's giant arms. But Nicolai side stepped to his right and threw a huge downward right punch to the top of Cliff's head. Cliff wasn't KO'd but he did grab the top of his head and stayed down. He was clearly hurt.

This drew a lot of boos as well as approving roars from the crowed. Plenty of fans knew it was an illegal punch and made it known. Ref didn't seem to care it was an illegal hit.

He did warn Nicolai earlier in one of the rounds to stop the one rabbit punch I saw. Sometimes he can't help it as he knows how to side step his advancing opponent and try to counter. But being so tall, his right counter lands on top of the head.

moochi
05-26-2005, 10:25 AM
Valuev is nowhere near being a worthy #1 contender..........Although good lobbying by the germans has prevailed again...

on the other hand, the moment Valuev fights in the states, he will be disqualified. He has knocked out previous opponents with king hits behind the head, swinging forearm, pushing, etc.......

i honestly expect him to be DQ'd in this fight.

Leo Pradun
05-26-2005, 10:30 AM
is this really gonna happen, where did u guys read that valuev will fight ruiz, i wish this happens...

scap
05-26-2005, 10:31 AM
I saw the fight last night. Cliff was connecting but none of his round house right punches that connected had any affect on Nicolai. Nicolai is very mobile for a big guy and his jabs were quite affective in keeping Cliff bobbing and weaving most of the rounds. SOmetimes, Nicolai, though not legal, would just stick his left glove on Cliff's face. He staggered Cliff a few times but Cliff would valiantly try to connect. One of those exchanges, Cliff tried to chase Nicolai but suddenly Nicolia stopped and pushed Cliff away. Cliff took a hard fall to the canvas. Seemed to have gotten a bit stunned by that as well.

The end came in the 4th round. Nicolai hit him a few times and Cliff went down. But he got up quickly but got caught again. Here's where the contreversy starts. In this exchange, Cliff was trying to get close to Nicolai but he walked into a left. Cliff tried to duck the next punch and tried to get under Nicolai's giant arms. But Nicolai side stepped to his right and threw a huge downward right punch to the top of Cliff's head. Cliff wasn't KO'd but he did grab the top of his head and stayed down. He was clearly hurt.

This drew a lot of boos as well as approving roars from the crowed. Plenty of fans knew it was an illegal punch and made it known. Ref didn't seem to care it was an illegal hit.

He did warn Nicolai earlier in one of the rounds to stop the one rabbit punch I saw. Sometimes he can't help it as he knows how to side step his advancing opponent and try to counter. But being so tall, his right counter lands on top of the head.

I hope this big russian fouls Johnny Reez to death and the ref looks the other way every damn time. We all have to face facts though, no matter what happens Johnny is not going away, he may never go away.

SnoopySmurf
05-26-2005, 10:37 AM
But Ruiz rabbit punches his opponents as well.

Kimmy
05-26-2005, 10:37 AM
This guys is his mandatory but i think Ruiz is entitled to one vounutary before fighting Valuev. One would hope this is Brewster but Lamon has a mandatory. My hope is that Lamon vacates the WBO title and fights Ruiz for the WBA.
But i think Valuev has a good chance of beating Ruiz in an ugly fight.
Can you smell Klitscko Vs Valuev WBC/WBA unification match.....

Stickman
05-26-2005, 10:53 AM
"Can you smell Klitscko Vs Valuev WBC/WBA unification match...."

It might actually prove to be an interesting fight. Klitchko tends to have more trouble with someone his own height. Valuev is, what....6" taller? I wonder how Klitchko would handle it, or if he would. Sometimes size is all that matters, if the difference is great enough.

The Troll
05-26-2005, 10:57 AM
But Ruiz rabbit punches his opponents as well.

Ruiz and Valuev are both big time rabbit punches. For me no other punch hurts more does more damage than a rabbit punch. I really hate rabbit punching. It is one of the worst fouls and it goes uncalled to often.

It is one the worst feelings in the world you duck a punch and somebody hits you in the back the head. It is devestating.

Hit me in the face all you want, bust my nose, but I cannot take punches to the back of the head.

rudy
05-26-2005, 11:01 AM
Protect yourself at all times is the simple theory to beat rabbit punches I personally don't care so long as he stop Ruiz, he could be on crack cocaine as i am concerned Ruiz is Garbarge who should not be champion do not look at him as a champion just another David Bey with a title. To think any of these guys could have beaten Tyrell Biggs, Carl Williams, Frank Bruno, Herbie Hide, Danny Williams

The Troll
05-26-2005, 11:03 AM
Protect yourself at all times is the simple theory to beat rabbit punches I personally don't care so long as he stop Ruiz, he could be on crack cocaine as i am concerned Ruiz is Garbarge who should not be champion do not look at him as a champion just another David Bey with a title. To think any of these guys could have beaten Tyrell Biggs, Carl Williams, Frank Bruno, Herbie Hide, Danny Williams

ducking a punch is protecting yourself. Its complete bull**** if you or somebody duck a punch and then a guy Like Valuev hits in the back the head while your ducking there is no defence to that. That is what Valuev did to Entienne. Taking a serious rabbit punch can cause brain damage like nothing else.

And you can get such good leverage hitting somebody in the back of the head while their head is ducked and below you. Especially if you are 7 feet tall. Valuev should have ben DQ'd vs Entinee. I am going to upload the fight. The introduction is at least very entertaining.

moochi
05-26-2005, 11:09 AM
Valuev is nowhere near being a worthy #1 contender..........Although good lobbying by the germans has prevailed again...

on the other hand, the moment Valuev fights in the states, he will be disqualified. He has knocked out previous opponents with king hits behind the head, swinging forearm, pushing, etc.......

i honestly expect him to be DQ'd in this fight.
sorry guys.......i was dumb,,,,,,,,,this fight will be in germany and not in the states.........the german promoters have done a wonderful job getting him to no. 1, and they know that if he fights in the states he could get DQ'd, and thus will do their utmost to have it in germany...

the dumb old yanks aren't realizing that soon, a large portion of WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP will be in Germany...

it's about time we stood up and stopped this......they are so corrupt, unfair, unreasonable, etc.

Michael Wittmann
05-26-2005, 11:17 AM
this is the worst case of sissy bithchin iwe ever heard!

is this the shemale chanel..?

its pro boxing!

watch the tapes.. what made the greats great..?

cheating.

lewis, tysob and ali - big time cheaters..

look at how lewis cut klitschko holding his head while punching with the forarm, look at tysons elbows, etc..

its boxing.. dancing with the big boys..

uhu!! the big guy hit me in the back of the head!! :eek:

big russian hurt me, uhaahaa!!

youre sissy freaks and youre about to be pushed of the planet! :)

scared silly, you thought vitali was beatable - now you know valuev and that whole lineup hes in is gonna exterminate all opposition. :D

whatcha gonna do bout it..?

whiiiine!

**** off off the boxing scene you idiot morons, go play with dolls!!

you have no honour, no pride, no future. :D

The Troll
05-26-2005, 11:18 AM
sorry guys.......i was dumb,,,,,,,,,this fight will be in germany and not in the states.........the german promoters have done a wonderful job getting him to no. 1, and they know that if he fights in the states he could get DQ'd, and thus will do their utmost to have it in germany...

the dumb old yanks aren't realizing that soon, a large portion of WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP will be in Germany...

it's about time we stood up and stopped this......they are so corrupt, unfair, unreasonable, etc.

Alot of times I have seen fights in Germany but they have American referees. I dont know how Universum promotion company is going to bully around Don King Productions. They will probably have a mainstream American Referee like Jay Nady. Both promotion companies probably feel the most money can be made holding the event in Germany.

RwK
05-26-2005, 11:19 AM
I feel bad for the guy...do you guys think Ruiz could hug the big giant to sleep?

(nelson pointing at Ruiz)

HA HA! dude your so gonna get beat up bad.

The Troll
05-26-2005, 11:20 AM
this is the worst case of sissy bithchin iwe ever heard!

is this the shemale chanel..?

its pro boxing!

watch the tapes.. what made the greats great..?

cheating.

lewis, tysob and ali - big time cheaters..

look at how lewis cut klitschko holding his head while punching with the forarm, look at tysons elbows, etc..

its boxing.. dancing with the big boys..

uhu!! the big guy hit me in the back of the head!! :eek:

big russian hurt me, uhaahaa!!

youre sissy freaks and youre about to be pushed of the planet! :)

scared silly, you thought vitali was beatable - now you know valuev and that whole lineup hes in is gonna exterminate all opposition. :D

whatcha gonna do bout it..?

whiiiine!

**** off off the boxing scene you idiot morons, go play with dolls!!

you have no honour, no pride, no future. :D


You only say that because your a ***** has who has no idea what it feels like to be blasted clean in the back of the head. With somebody getting full leverage on you from above.

Michael Wittmann
05-26-2005, 11:22 AM
and you suffer from braindamage muckkay, its obvious..

and your MOTHER, does she have a comment to this..? :D

The Troll
05-26-2005, 11:24 AM
I hope somebody blasts you in the back of the head that hits really really hard. And then you will have braindamage. Nothing causes braindamage like a hit in the back of the head. Your skull is soft in the back the head, and critical parts of your brain are there. That is why in a proper execution they always shoot you in the back of the head, if not in the heart.

Michael Wittmann
05-26-2005, 11:30 AM
I hope somebody blasts you in the back of the head that hits really really hard. And then you will have braindamage. Nothing causes braindamage like a hit in the back of the head. Your skull is soft in the back the head, and critical parts of your brain are there. That is why in a proper execution they always shoot you in the back of the head, if not in the heart.

im happy to be informed about your psychosis, are there more you like to share with your friends on the net, or is that all..?

and your mommy, what does she have to say to all this? :D

if you cant take a few blows and elbows, get the **** off and play with a basketball!!

this is a sport for bears and men, not for yall fish n chips wankers.. :rolleyes:

..as you most probably allready know.. ;)

The Troll
05-26-2005, 11:30 AM
and you suffer from braindamage muckkay, its obvious..

and your MOTHER, does she have a comment to this..? :D

You should be banned. YOu are Tino the Rippuh.

Michael Wittmann
05-26-2005, 11:32 AM
You should be banned. YOu are Tino the Rippuh.

what?

i was just assuming you had your mother with you there by your computer. :D

The Troll
05-26-2005, 11:33 AM
im happy to be informed about your psychosis, are there more you like to share with your friends on the net, or is that all..?

and your mommy, what does she have to say to all this? :D

if you cant take a few blows and elbows, get the **** off and play with a basketball!!

this is a sport for bears and men, not for yall fish n chips wankers.. :rolleyes:

..as you most probably allready know.. ;)

You have never even boxed before you little *****. And you are lecturing me on what is right and what is wrong in boxing. You are too big of a ***** to even attempt to box. And you are calling others *******. I would expect nothing less from a lying filthy swine like you Tino.

moochi
05-26-2005, 11:33 AM
Alot of times I have seen fights in Germany but they have American referees. I dont know how Universum promotion company is going to bully around Don King Productions. They will probably have a mainstream American Referee like Jay Nady. Both promotion companies probably feel the most money can be made holding the event in Germany.
Bro, you are wrong. Have you seen Green vs Beyer I? The ref (yank) made the decision of "go to the scorecards".....the promotors went spastic for about 10 minutes and made him reverse his decision.......

it was obvious he felt bad about this and his face went red out of the shame...he was so apologetic to Jeff Fenech and he knew that it was wrong........but he was forced too big time and the poor ref felt so bad...

Michael Wittmann
05-26-2005, 11:35 AM
You have never even boxed before you little *****. And you are lecturing me on what is right and what is wrong in boxing. You are too big of a ***** to even attempt to box. And you are calling others *******. I would expect nothing less from a lying filthy swine like you Tino.

i am not tino, i dont like tino, and yes im a feared fighter.

i spread fear in all the darkest forrests in europe.. :)

The Troll
05-26-2005, 11:37 AM
i am not tino, i dont like tino, and yes im a feared fighter.

i spread fear in all the darkest forrests in europe.. :)


You have never boxed before *****. And you are Tino. If your not Tino and your from Europe then speak some German for us Mike.

Michael Wittmann
05-26-2005, 11:37 AM
:D

look at mickey the spasoman.. :)

his droolcup is fiiling up with dark, old blood now.. :D

moochi
05-26-2005, 11:38 AM
i am not tino, i dont like tino, and yes im a feared fighter.

i spread fear in all the darkest forrests in europe.. :)
be careful mate....you will get banned...

you bloody whinging pom.

Michael Wittmann
05-26-2005, 11:39 AM
be careful mate....you will get banned...

you bloody whinging pom.

me no understand this..

you care elaborate..?

The Troll
05-26-2005, 11:40 AM
:D

look at mickey the spasoman.. :)

his droolcup is fiiling up with dark, old blood now.. :D


I repeat dickhead. If you are not Tino. And you are from Europe then speak 5 sentences in German.

paul750
05-26-2005, 11:42 AM
this is the worst case of sissy bithchin iwe ever heard!

is this the shemale chanel..?

its pro boxing!

watch the tapes.. what made the greats great..?

cheating.

lewis, tysob and ali - big time cheaters..

look at how lewis cut klitschko holding his head while punching with the forarm, look at tysons elbows, etc..

its boxing.. dancing with the big boys..

uhu!! the big guy hit me in the back of the head!! :eek:

big russian hurt me, uhaahaa!!

youre sissy freaks and youre about to be pushed of the planet! :)

scared silly, you thought vitali was beatable - now you know valuev and that whole lineup hes in is gonna exterminate all opposition. :D

whatcha gonna do bout it..?

whiiiine!

**** off off the boxing scene you idiot morons, go play with dolls!!

you have no honour, no pride, no future. :D
Michael some of that is true, a lot of past champions have bended the rules very cleverly, elbows, headbutts etc are very dangerous just like rabbit punches, this happens in a lot of sports,some people try to win at all costs, even the so called greats

Eric Persson
05-26-2005, 11:42 AM
Ruiz vs. Valuev will be uglier then hell but it still will be interesting to see if Valuev has something to give, and Ruiz is, like it or not, the heavyweight bearing the best resume in the division.

The Troll
05-26-2005, 11:44 AM
me no understand this..

you care elaborate..?


You like cheaters because filth like you can only win one way at anything. That is by cheating and lying ashakanazim. There is nothing in your nature which is honorable.

Michael Wittmann
05-26-2005, 11:47 AM
Michael some of that is true, a lot of past champions have bended the rules very cleverly, elbows, headbutts etc are very dangerous just like rabbit punches, this happens in a lot of sports,some people try to win at all costs, even the so called greats

i am amused to see that you thought some of what i said was true.

this post might cut you a litle slack at judgment day you know, mr pike. :D

its called winning - look at martin luther - imagine history continously unfolding.. :D

and mackay, in a few years my german will be sound.

Stickman
05-26-2005, 11:50 AM
"look at how lewis cut klitschko holding his head while punching with the forarm"

That's pure science fiction. The cut was initially opened by a huge right hand that followed a long looping left hook from outside...Lewis' money punch/combo....the same one he dropped Rahman with. It was probably torn further by the tape on a glove, or an unintentional headbutt. I've analyzed it many times, and it's just not completely clear where or when it was torn wider after the punch initially opened it.

J !
05-26-2005, 11:54 AM
guys give up talking to this joker. (wittman the arsehead this is)
he leaves you alone once you put him on ignore for a bit.

goes searching for new people to bait.

!! Mr. Soprano
05-26-2005, 11:58 AM
Well, at least Valuuev averages at least 3-4 fights a year...
I do not think he has enough to hold on to the title and be a champ...
But I hope he has enough TO TAKE THE TITLE AWAY FROM RUIZ!

!! Mr. Soprano
05-26-2005, 12:17 PM
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:D

look at mickey the spasoman.. :)

his droolcup is fiiling up with dark, old blood now.. :D

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I repeat dickhead. If you are not Tino. And you are from Europe then speak 5 sentences in German.GERMAN:
McKay, müssen Sie festgestellt, daß es auf Linie translaters gibt, die Text in jede mögliche Sprache übersetzen kann, die, Sie wünschen. Folglich, wenn jemand Ihnen fünf Sätze im Deutschen zeigen kann, bedeutet nicht Scheiße. als I sprechen selbst nicht irgendwie Deutsches.
TRANLSATION:
McKay, you must realized that there are on line translaters that can translate text into any language you want. Therefore if someone can show you five sentences in German, does not mean ****.. as I, myself don't speak any German.


LOL see proves nothing. But anyhow.. sorry for cutting in..

Michael Wittmann
05-26-2005, 12:56 PM
You like cheaters because filth like you can only win one way at anything. That is by cheating and lying ashakanazim. There is nothing in your nature which is honorable.

askenazi.. is that the dead sea tribe that spawned josef stalin..?

oh, this is geting to be ugly - on the occult side, and jpw (julia) butting in aswell.. :rolleyes:

Michael Wittmann
05-26-2005, 12:57 PM
That's pure science fiction. The cut was initially opened by a huge right hand that followed a long looping left hook from outside...Lewis' money punch/combo....the same one he dropped Rahman with. It was probably torn further by the tape on a glove, or an unintentional headbutt. I've analyzed it many times, and it's just not completely clear where or when it was torn wider after the punch initially opened it.

done any other analyzis youd like to enlighten us with, four eyes? :D

The Troll
05-26-2005, 01:02 PM
You have a picture of guy from the Ashkanazim army in your avatar mike. I would think you would be an expert on these matters. NAZI is not an abreviation of NSDAP.

But alas this is something which you already know Tino. Or Panzergirl or Princehenry.

Michael Wittmann
05-26-2005, 01:07 PM
You have a picture of guy from the Ashkanazim army in your avatar mike. I would think you would be an expert on these matters. NAZI is not an abreviation of NSDAP.

i rwally dont understand your blabber, punchy.

lets roll it up.. :D

the national socialists where called nazi by a jewish tribe called askenazi.. correct?

how far into the current conspiracy theories are you, flubber?

the guy in my avatar?

the leader of the norwegian anti alcohol movement in the 20s.. :)

Michael Wittmann
05-26-2005, 01:11 PM
But alas this is something which you already know Tino. Or Panzergirl or Princehenry.

are you a schizo..? :D

would you like these "personalities" to interact with your ones..? :confused:

what does the medics at your school say to all this?

The Troll
05-26-2005, 01:12 PM
Ok TankTigerAce.......... ;)

RwK
05-26-2005, 01:14 PM
what does the medics at your school say to all this?

haha. "MEDIC!!!!!!!!"

"I need a MEDIC over here".

this is not class of nukem high home boy.

The Troll
05-26-2005, 01:15 PM
Who would have thought Emperor Palapatine sectrely controls the Trade Federation droid army and the Republican army based on Coruscant.

Michael Wittmann
05-26-2005, 01:17 PM
what?

did the cat **** on your tounge?

i asked you some questions..

you where in the middle of some referring about life, the world, politics, history and the occult.

care to elaborate on what the heck you where on about, what is the askenazi - for starters?

or did your mom call you in for dinner - fryed eggs and pickles :D

The Troll
05-26-2005, 01:21 PM
what?

did the cat **** on your tounge?

i asked you some questions..

you where in the middle of some referring about life, the world, politics, history and the occult.

care to elaborate on what the heck you where on about, what is the askenazi - for starters?

or did your mom call you in for dinner - fryed eggs and pickles :D

look the **** up on teh internet of your genuinally interested, which your not, you are just trying to play dumb. You should be banned for having so many multiple accounts.

Michael Wittmann
05-26-2005, 01:24 PM
look the **** up on teh internet of your genuinally interested, which your not, you are just trying to play dumb. You should be banned for having so many multiple accounts.

i would like you, my friend, to referr it to me.

reality - by mckay..

im generally sociologically interested.

i like you.

furthermore, me and prince harry are good buddys - dont disrespect, we are connected.. :cool:

give my best to your mom,

eat your piccles,

and in the future i expect more from you.

the galaxy is open...

SnoopySmurf
05-26-2005, 01:26 PM
ANYWAY.....when I saw the Valuev/Etienne fight, I do not believe Valuev INTENTIONALLY hit Cliff behind the head. He's just so damn tall and people are trying to duck his punches and it just happens that way.

Ruiz, however, I have seen him clinch and rabbit punch while the ref is on the other side of the foul. That's intentional.

The Troll
05-26-2005, 01:29 PM
i would like you, my friend, to referr it to me.

reality - by mckay..

im generally sociologically interested.

i like you.

furthermore, me and prince harry are good buddys - dont disrespect, we are connected.. :cool:

give my best to your mom,

eat your piccles,

and in the future i expect more from you.

the galaxy is open...


Yeah, you prince henry and Tino are all connected in that your the same person.

Michael Wittmann
05-26-2005, 01:34 PM
Yeah, you prince henry and Tino are all connected in that your the same person.

is this your paranoid conspiracy part..? :D

its prince harry..

go empty your droolcup now - prison*****. :D

RwK
05-26-2005, 01:36 PM
its prince harry..


You arent fooling anyone. Everyone knows its you nutsackbreath.

Michael Wittmann
05-26-2005, 01:38 PM
You arent fooling anyone. Everyone knows its you nutsackbreath.

im sorry..

i dident mean to designate the prison***** title to anyone else.. :D

oh, playing the fool are we..?

do you have the remotest idea of how smart i really am..? :)

RwK
05-26-2005, 01:40 PM
im sorry..

i dident mean to designate the prison***** title to anyone else.. :D

oh, playing the fool are we..?

do you have the remotest idea of how smart i really am..? :)


http://koti.mbnet.fi/~foo/incoming.jpg

SnoopySmurf
05-26-2005, 01:40 PM
Is there a possibility the flaming could be taken on to private messaging? I keep thinking there's some opinion about the Valuev and Ruiz fight.

The Troll
05-26-2005, 01:41 PM
im sorry..

i dident mean to designate the prison***** title to anyone else.. :D

oh, playing the fool are we..?

do you have the remotest idea of how smart i really am..? :)

Your not very smart Tino. That is why you have to combat and obsesse over me in the form of alter ego. And where do you get "prison*****" from? I have to give you credit that is actually one I have not heard before.

The Troll
05-26-2005, 01:43 PM
I am still wanting an apology from you Tino for your insults against me and my organization. And also for trying to infiltrate my organization.

Michael Wittmann
05-26-2005, 01:46 PM
Your not very smart Tino. That is why you have to combat and obsesse over me in the form of alter ego. And where do you get "prison*****" from? I have to give you credit that is actually one I have not heard before.

i dont combat and obsess, im certainly not timooooo!!!

if panzeygirl where amongst us, god bless her shiny buttocks - shed back my story.. :cool:

i agree this has gone to far now.. que monthy phyton - with rien, nothing to say!!

and im sorry if i scared you with my last post..

if you jokes, or anyone else in the handycap assosiation wants a piece of me we can take it to pm or somewhere else..

see whos the king of the keyboard - be glad im not in your face..

SnoopySmurf
05-26-2005, 01:48 PM
If you two are gonna flame each other, at least post some pics of Lucy Pinder while you're at it. Google her.

Michael Wittmann
05-26-2005, 01:48 PM
I am still wanting an apology from you Tino for your insults against me and my organization. And also for trying to infiltrate my organization.

could we, in the end, have a quick resume of the ways and words used by TIMO to offend, insult and/or generally mind**** you - sir..?

The Troll
05-26-2005, 01:49 PM
i dont combat and obsess, im certainly not timooooo!!!

if panzeygirl where amongst us, god bless her shiny buttocks - shed back my story.. :cool:

i agree this has gone to far now.. que monthy phyton - with rien, nothing to say!!

and im sorry if i scared you with my last post..

if you jokes, or anyone else in the handycap assosiation wants a piece of me we can take it to pm or somewhere else..

see whos the king of the keyboard - be glad im not in your face..

Run off then Tino. You see it very easy for me to realize your character because I have met you before in person. The same person just with a different name and I know the way you think.

Michael Wittmann
05-26-2005, 01:52 PM
Run off then Tino. You see it very easy for me to realize your character because I have met you before in person. The same person just with a different name and I know the way you think.

ach!!

inzide my mind again, this has gone too far!

zchotty, beam me up!!

Kimmy
05-26-2005, 01:55 PM
could we, in the end, have a quioxing reck resume of the ways and words used by TIMO to offend, insult and/or generally mind**** you - sir..?
I don`t know the focus for this thrend but i feel compelled to say this: WHO THE **** IS MICHAEL DICKMAN??
I don`t think your contrabutions are boxing related and your wording on posts strike me as someone whom favors men sexually.
Rick should be notified of this infestation of preversion on boxingscene!

Michael Wittmann
05-26-2005, 02:00 PM
I don`t know the focus for this thrend but i feel compelled to say this: WHO THE **** IS MICHAEL DICKMAN??
I don`t think your contrabutions are boxing related and your wording on posts strike me as someone whom favors men sexually.
Rick should be notified of this infestation of preversion on boxingscene!

haha,

michael dickman - thats hillarious! whats the name of the slammer youre in, sir?

go tell it to muck kay - hes the one calling me timo and whining as if some little girl had hit him with a tennisracket. :D

SnoopySmurf
05-26-2005, 02:03 PM
I still don't see pics of Lucy Pinder from either Whitmann or McKay. From now on, arguments must include pics of Lucy Pinder.

Michael Wittmann
05-26-2005, 02:06 PM
I still don't see pics of Lucy Pinder from either Whitmann or McKay. From now on, arguments must include pics of Lucy Pinder.

:D

when b wing suck boy CUMMY

posts a picture of a HETEROSEXUAL HEALTHY BEUTY... :D

ill do the same..

SnoopySmurf
05-26-2005, 02:09 PM
:D

when b wing suck boy CUMMY

posts a picture of a HETEROSEXUAL HEALTHY BEUTY... :D

ill do the same..

I have no idea what "b wing" means.

http://www.hamburgkicks.com/goettin/0404_lucy_pinder_03.jpg

RwK
05-26-2005, 02:11 PM
That girl is amazing. Who in the hell is she again? Lucy Pinder? :wank:

Michael Wittmann
05-26-2005, 02:14 PM
I have no idea what "b wing" means.

http://www.hamburgkicks.com/goettin/0404_lucy_pinder_03.jpg

it could ring like a male with a "beaver"?

this girl you post, is she expensive? i hear all them girls in media and such in western "democrazies" are prostetutes. true?

:eek:



thankyou for listening.. i will go to bed now..

The Troll
05-26-2005, 02:15 PM
I have no idea what "b wing" means.

http://www.hamburgkicks.com/goettin/0404_lucy_pinder_03.jpg

Michael is a homosexual. Because he is Tino. And I believe that Tino is an admitted Homosexual. Even if Tino was not a homosexual he could never get a decent looking woman to come anywhere near him.

SnoopySmurf
05-26-2005, 02:16 PM
That girl is amazing. Who in the hell is she again? Lucy Pinder? :wank:

Lucy Pinder does not do frontal nudes. She'll do nudes...but she'll cover up. I like it better that way, actually. She's such a tease. :p

Michael Wittmann
05-26-2005, 02:18 PM
Michael is a homosexual. Because he is Tino. And I believe that Tino is an admitted Homosexual. Even if Tino was not a homosexual he could never get a decent looking woman to come anywhere near him.

goddamn, dont you ever stop?

just pull the plug outta your ass.

you no funny - you obsess much.

me not timo - timo laugh lot.

me pretty - me post big picture, yall bow down.

RwK
05-26-2005, 02:20 PM
Lucy Pinder does not do frontal nudes. She'll do nudes...but she'll cover up. I like it better that way, actually. She's such a tease. :p

Yeah I googled her name. I have never heard of her. She must be from the U.K. right? Thats what Im talking about. Britain has been on a terror producing females like that and the one in my avatar. Its thoroughly unscrupulous, and insulting to us citizens of the U.S.A.

paul750
05-26-2005, 02:21 PM
it could ring like a male with a "beaver"?

this girl you post, is she expensive? i hear all them girls in media and such in western "democrazies" are prostetutes. true?

:eek:



thankyou for listening.. i will go to bed now..
michael no offence, but you sound like a guy that has issues :D

Michael Wittmann
05-26-2005, 02:25 PM
michael no offence, but you sound like a guy that has issues :D

no offense pike750, but you sound like a psychiatrist..

do you do web consulting - could me and k get a discount..?:D

seriously, i shoulda been in bed a few hours ago..

generally im terribly witty, and deviously intelligent.

paul750
05-26-2005, 02:30 PM
no offense pike750, but you sound like a psychiatrist..

do you do web consulting - could me and k get a discount..?:D

seriously, i shoulda been in bed a few hours ago..

generally im terribly witty, and deviously intelligent.
i might be able to book you in for a private consultation, but for the mean time i would advise you to go into a quiet corner and reflect on some of you're actions today :D

Kimmy
05-26-2005, 02:31 PM
no offense pike750, but you sound like a psychiatrist..

do you do web consulting - could me and k get a discount..?:D

seriously, i shoulda been in bed a few hours ago..

generally im terribly witty, and deviously intelligent.
Michael, this sounds like a personal ad advertising your wares to other posters. Maybe you should enlist in a 1 - 900 number for people like the guy in your avatar. You know, church going married men whom only have an organism when a teenage boy is on the recieving end of it!

Michael Wittmann
05-26-2005, 02:32 PM
i might be able to book you in for a private consultation, but for the mean time i would advise you to go into a quiet corner and reflect on some of you're actions today :D

what actions would you like to have me reflect upon?

..ill call prince harry, well both do a bit of reflecting.

im on my way, shoot..

Kimmy
05-26-2005, 02:33 PM
what actions would you like to have me reflect upon?

..ill call prince harry, well both do a bit of reflecting.

im on my way, shoot..
This is just homo sickness this is.

Michael Wittmann
05-26-2005, 02:36 PM
Michael, this sounds like a personal ad advertising your wares to other posters. Maybe you should enlist in a 1 - 900 number for people like the guy in your avatar. You know, church going married men whom only have an organism when a teenage boy is on the recieving end of it!

you dont like mr avatar - CUMMY..?

and what was the name of the prison where they where pumping on you, boy? :D

HAVING AN ORGANISM WHEN A TEEN...

you dont make yourself look any desirable here you know..

did you mean healthy rich happy..? words seem strange to you? :D

Kimmy
05-26-2005, 02:41 PM
I know not of prison. Maybe its a queer fantasy of yours you keep mentioning in hope of some red neck ****** replying to you with his details so you can check into a motel 6 and **** each other. Hey, i`m not knocking it, better you and your *** lover are locked behind a travel lodge door and the children are safe!

paul750
05-26-2005, 02:43 PM
you dont like mr avatar - CUMMY..?

and what was the name of the prison where they where pumping on you, boy? :D

HAVING AN ORGANISM WHEN A TEEN...

you dont make yourself look any desirable here you know..

did you mean healthy rich happy..? words seem strange to you? :D
michael i'm surmising that you've forgot to take some sort of medication that you need, my advice is to raid you're drug cabinet at once and take it :D

Michael Wittmann
05-26-2005, 02:45 PM
I know not of prison. Maybe its a queer fantasy of yours you keep mentioning in hope of some red neck ****** replying to you with his details so you can check into a motel 6 and **** each other. Hey, i`m not knocking it, better you and your *** lover are locked behind a travel lodge door and the children are safe!

thats low..

and nothing else could be expected from your point..

need not elaborate more about your life, situation and existence..

dont even mention children - hypocrite! :D

i know your kind.

dont brag - we all know.. its all in the statistics.. for all to see.

sorrow and malnutrition and insanity - so youre angry.. blow your head off, kid. it helps! :D

Michael Wittmann
05-26-2005, 02:47 PM
michael i'm surmising that you've forgot to take some sort of medication that you need, my advice is to raid you're drug cabinet at once and take it :D

fine!

i dont use drugs or alcohol - beeing one of the pure and chosen ones..

but im gonna ****ing sleep.

thanks for you intended good advice.

ciao ****ers!

SnoopySmurf
05-26-2005, 02:49 PM
http://www.hamburgkicks.com/goettin/0404_lucy_pinder_02.jpg

Kimmy
05-26-2005, 02:51 PM
fine!

i dont use drugs or alcohol - beeing one of the pure and chosen ones..

but im gonna ****ing sleep.

thanks for you intended good advice.

ciao ****ers!
Wittman is clearly stressed about meeting his new gay internet lover for the first time this week. He needs to sleep to prepare his ass for a real caking!

TheKnifeManconi
05-26-2005, 02:55 PM
ive never seen valuev fight.but goddamn hes like 7ft tall,thats a beast.lol imagine him standing next to tyson.

i wonder if his jab is quick/snappy, and how he works inside..his arms look too big to be quick but i may be wrong

also curious about his lead hooks

SnoopySmurf
05-26-2005, 03:00 PM
ive never seen valuev fight.but goddamn hes like 7ft tall,thats a beast.lol imagine him standing next to tyson.

i wonder if his jab is quick/snappy, and how he works inside..his arms look too big to be quick but i may be wrong

also curious about his lead hooks

His jabs are slow but powerful. Kinda like someone half kicking you in the face. Not fast...but you'll feel it.

Michael Wittmann
05-26-2005, 03:03 PM
His jabs are slow but powerful. Kinda like someone half kicking you in the face. Not fast...but you'll feel it.


..and youll hear bones snapping.

sorry! sorry! im off to bed!

joeboxer
05-26-2005, 03:15 PM
me no understand this..

you care elaborate..?


You don't come on to a website and select an ultra famous NAZI as your username,

then make comments about World Domination, and pushing wussies of the earth (I'm assuming you meant off instead of off)

and not expect to get banned. I hope you are a gimmick/alter ego of somebody because if this is your true personality it is very sad.

ejk22
05-26-2005, 03:17 PM
He is actually listed at 7 foot 2 325 pounds. He is a foot taller than Ruiz and outweighs him by about 85 pounds. I think Ruiz is going to have a hard time hugging this guy. Ruiz better try to outbox him if he has any chance of beating him.

oldgringo
05-26-2005, 03:18 PM
michael wittman is panzerboy panzergirl panzertard panzertroll...its all the same person. rick you really need to find a way to keep this decay off of the site for good.

The Troll
05-26-2005, 03:20 PM
Here is Valuev vs Entienne, the Pagentry involved with introduction of Valuev is really something to see.

http://s11.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=27TXACN0703GY0OB3SN5EF7QXD

joeboxer
05-26-2005, 03:22 PM
http://www.hamburgkicks.com/goettin/0404_lucy_pinder_02.jpg


Why did you post this.

Are you German?


Are you trying to tell us something?

The Troll
05-26-2005, 03:53 PM
Here is a German Model for you. That happens to be related to me because her last name is Lillig and there is only about 500 people in the world with that last name and my Grandmother is one of them. And she from the Moselle region same as my Grandmother who was born in Moselle Region. Everybody named Lillig is from the Moselle area either in Saarland in Germany or Lorraine in France more commonly. That picture of her is from next to the Moselle River.



http://www.nzsen.de/playmate/h_lillig.jpg

joeboxer
05-26-2005, 03:56 PM
Wait....so you are excited about looking at naked pics of your cousin????

Gross.

The Troll
05-26-2005, 04:07 PM
Wait....so you are excited about looking at naked pics of your cousin????

Gross.


My first cousin was a model at one time as well. I dont think she did nudes though.

TheKnifeManconi
05-26-2005, 04:15 PM
His jabs are slow but powerful. Kinda like someone half kicking you in the face. Not fast...but you'll feel it.

i c.glad im not a heavyweight.

TheKnifeManconi
05-26-2005, 04:17 PM
Here is a German Model for you. That happens to be related to me because her last name is Lillig and there is only about 500 people in the world with that last name and my Grandmother is one of them. And she from the Moselle region same as my Grandmother who was born in Moselle Region. Everybody named Lillig is from the Moselle area either in Saarland in Germany or Lorraine in France more commonly. That picture of her is from next to the Moselle River.



http://www.nzsen.de/playmate/h_lillig.jpg

that shot of moselle looks like vancouver in the summer almost..except the mountains are snowy in van

and shes pretty good looking..i need to look up more german models

paul750
05-26-2005, 04:17 PM
i c.glad im not a heavyweight.
what weight are you anyway?

TheKnifeManconi
05-26-2005, 04:20 PM
what weight are you anyway?
160 but if i go a month or 2 w/o fighting or training hard i bloat up to 175(or if i drink alot of beer after a fight)

!! Mr. Soprano
05-26-2005, 04:37 PM
http://www.p-sites.com/lucypinder/home2.jpg

Sorry, I see nothing special in Lucy Pinder

Mick Hucknall
05-26-2005, 04:40 PM
She only became famous because the daily start spotted her at some English beach and now her and Michelle Mrsh hog most the pages of the daily star.

leff
05-26-2005, 04:51 PM
back to topic.

ruiz`s hugging wont do alot on Valuev, he can just lean on the lot smaller guy and damn it will be tiring on ruiz having that 300pound russian on him.

i say valuev by ud.

The Troll
05-26-2005, 05:27 PM
Here is a German Model for you. That happens to be related to me because her last name is Lillig and there is only about 500 people in the world with that last name and my Grandmother is one of them. And she from the Moselle region same as my Grandmother who was born in Moselle Region. Everybody named Lillig is from the Moselle area either in Saarland in Germany or Lorraine in France more commonly. That picture of her is from next to the Moselle River.



http://www.nzsen.de/playmate/h_lillig.jpg


Here is Valuev Entienne


http://s11.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=27TXACN0703GY0OB3SN5EF7QXD

paul750
05-26-2005, 05:33 PM
Here is a German Model for you. That happens to be related to me because her last name is Lillig and there is only about 500 people in the world with that last name and my Grandmother is one of them. And she from the Moselle region same as my Grandmother who was born in Moselle Region. Everybody named Lillig is from the Moselle area either in Saarland in Germany or Lorraine in France more commonly. That picture of her is from next to the Moselle River.



http://www.nzsen.de/playmate/h_lillig.jpg
just because she has the same name as your grandmother dosn't mean she's related to you does it? :confused:

Leo Pradun
05-26-2005, 05:34 PM
Nick will tare Ruiz apart...

The Troll
05-26-2005, 05:41 PM
just because she has the same name as your grandmother dosn't mean she's related to you does it? :confused:

It does because the name is exceedingly rare. Almost all people named that live in the Moselle region where my Grandmother was born and where she (Heikie Lillig) is born.

dansweeney
05-26-2005, 05:44 PM
you guys are way too carried away with valuev, he is nowhere near a world class fighter, he is a big slow plodding no talent bum. ruiz as bad as he looks would kayo valuev inside 6. valuev would be an unknown if he was normal height.

SnoopySmurf
05-26-2005, 05:59 PM
you guys are way too carried away with valuev, he is nowhere near a world class fighter, he is a big slow plodding no talent bum. ruiz as bad as he looks would kayo valuev inside 6. valuev would be an unknown if he was normal height.

I had the same opinion as you before the Etienne fight. Granted, Etienne is no champion but he is an above average fighter. And the way he fought, he was doing quit well. Now as for Valuev, believe me, this big guy can move. He's not fast but those long legs of his had Etienne swatting at nothing but air. Also, his jabs are a force to reckon with. Yes, they are slow but they will make contact because of the reach. He also has a sneaky right upper cut.

He can definitely beat a lot of top ten heavies. He won't beat Chris Byrd or maybe the Klitchkos but he'll definitely beat Ruiz.

leff
05-26-2005, 06:08 PM
truth is that Valuev hasnt realy been tested yet, so it hard to tell.

TheKnifeManconi
05-26-2005, 06:21 PM
fighters that big always face the demise of Primo Carnera(i always wondered how much giants like that eat..cuz i eat alot, i can eat 2 medium pizzas if im hungry,cant imagine what his appetite is)

Truth
05-26-2005, 06:23 PM
Ruiz is a bum and will lose. Naturally. He should move to wrestling if he wants to save his brain cells or be a VW mechanic and try to move it with his left hook as someone once said.

Honestly, I second that... :D

TheKnifeManconi
05-26-2005, 06:23 PM
Here is Valuev vs Entienne, the Pagentry involved with introduction of Valuev is really something to see.

http://s11.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=27TXACN0703GY0OB3SN5EF7QXD
thanks i really wanted to see him in action.

joeboxer
05-26-2005, 06:23 PM
Hey McKay,

thanks for uploading the fight, but does yours have a weird little block flying around the screen too?

PacKillsMorales
05-26-2005, 06:29 PM
if valuev beats up ruiz & takes his title it will be funnier than when
tua threw that monster left less than 15 seconds into his fight with ruiz

Shaolin Bushido
05-26-2005, 06:46 PM
War Valuev!!171!

joeboxer
05-26-2005, 06:49 PM
Ruiz could be the first Heavyweight champion to lose to 2 middleweights, and the biggest fighter of all time.

Up or down. Ruiz is ****ed.

TheKnifeManconi
05-26-2005, 07:25 PM
after watching his fight with etienne i can tell you valuev has what it takes to be a force.only disadantages he has that i can see are his age,being white and easily cut(like me),and stamina issues if ruiz hugs alot

i think valuev should learn from tua and come out explosive in the first round,like tua did vs ruiz.i can see that valuev has a good chin,mainly because when a normal size heavy(brewster) reaches up there to land a hook alot of his power is taken away since he's punching so far up,from brewster he has to punch like a foot up in the air to get to his chin.gravity plays a part in this,its like when you fight a smaller person and can land the jab at will,its almost like a power punch because gravity affects the punch,its like more weight on the punch when you are punching down at something.

i know some euro browse this site, and have seen alot of his fights,so fill me in.has valuev ever been dazed or anything like that?also how bad has he been cut..

edt:interesting stuff in round2,etienne so much shorter than valuev,val was controlling him with his extended left hand.etienne kept trying to come in and valuev just controlling him with one arm keeping him at bay,etienne gassing out on nothing while valuev keeps that arm out.he could do that with brewster

SnoopySmurf
05-26-2005, 07:31 PM
At another forum, there's a guy there that knows Valuev personally. Says Valuev's problem is he's "too nice and doesn't have the killer instinct." In fact, he said that Valuev doesn't throw most of his strength into his jabs or power punches coz he's afraid he'd kill the guy. With arm muscles the size of the average human leg, I can see why.

Ironic the big guy is actually a nice guy. Reminds me of Lenny, from "Mice and Men". :D

Michael Wittmann
05-26-2005, 07:31 PM
joeslowboxer, oldflincho..

its sad to see all your irrational, blatantly useless and embarrassing hatred.

i pity the social service people who has to deal with you two haggards. ;)


for one thing,

all the boxing and boxing predictions youve made against me in the past has failed,

youve turned loosing into a religion!

now i dont know if thats paganist or what, i really cant tell!

but going from allways siding with the loosing fighters - and then into all this ghetto hatred of me - the good guy who merely points out all the obvious facts - thats low, guys..

..thats like somebody living in a muddhole would do..

stop these useless whiney attacs, the nurses at your institution might just barr you from using your keyboard, you know.. ;)

SnoopySmurf
05-26-2005, 07:32 PM
edt:interesting stuff in round2,etienne so much shorter than valuev,val was controlling him with his extended left hand.etienne kept trying to come in and valuev just controlling him with one arm keeping him at bay,etienne gassing out on nothing while valuev keeps that arm out.he could do that with brewster

But that's illegal in the US. Holmes used to do that by blinding the guy with his long left arm and then BAM! Right cross to the jaw.

PacKillsMorales
05-26-2005, 07:37 PM
haha valuev beat a guy called Richard Bango.

well ya know whats short for richard.

Shaolin Bushido
05-26-2005, 07:38 PM
But that's illegal in the US. Holmes used to do that by blinding the guy with his long left arm and then BAM! Right cross to the jaw.

That's supposed to be illegal world-wide.

SnoopySmurf
05-26-2005, 07:38 PM
Dick Bango? :D Nice **** name. :p

SnoopySmurf
05-26-2005, 07:39 PM
That's supposed to be illegal world-wide.

Well...when I saw that fight (Germany, right?) the ref did nothing. So I just thought it might be different there.

TheKnifeManconi
05-26-2005, 07:40 PM
that fight was some bs.

valuev shouldve been DQ'd, he punched etienne behind the head before the KD ,hard...and etienne knew it was illegal i think thats why he stayed down,unfortunately he got euro****d

i still think valuev has the tools to be great

Shaolin Bushido
05-26-2005, 07:42 PM
Well...when I saw that fight (Germany, right?) the ref did nothing. So I just thought it might be different there.

Sounds like "home cookin".

jpboxer3
05-26-2005, 07:45 PM
Valuev is gonna KO Ruiz,unless he gets DQed before it happens.I think Valuev would be the perfect heavyweight to end Ruiz's reign,because Valuev is a good sportsman and wont trash Ruiz after the fight,lol.

Michael Wittmann
05-26-2005, 08:26 PM
Valuev is gonna KO Ruiz,unless he gets DQed before it happens.I think Valuev would be the perfect heavyweight to end Ruiz's reign,because Valuev is a good sportsman and wont trash Ruiz after the fight,lol.

agreed. :)

The Pretender
05-26-2005, 08:28 PM
I cant believe Valuev is already the #1 contender for the WBA just by beating Entienne. Ruiz hugging tactics would have no effect against Valuev. If Ruiz wins this fight, he is going to have to outbox Valuev to do it. Valuev is a cheater and John is a cheater this fixes to be an interesting wierd fight. It wount be a grapple fest. When Entienne tried to grappe Valuev he got himself in nothing but hurt. John is alot more skilled boxer than Valuev and faster and he hits pretty hard, I think Ruiz could take Valuev.

Oh crap, last thing Ruiz needs is Golota's #1 fan to be backing him in this fight. McKay stay away from Ruiz, you cursed.

Michael Wittmann
05-26-2005, 08:32 PM
Oh crap, last thing Ruiz needs is Golota's #1 fan to be backing him in this fight. McKay stay away from Ruiz, you cursed.

:D now, thats a sence of humor!

MlLkMan
05-26-2005, 08:37 PM
Cliff E. came into the fight at 217 pounds and in the best shape ever in his career, lookign for a win, but all valuev did was thorw him down on the ground and rabbit punch him into submission

The punches probably only looked like rabbit punches cause of his height, haha

The Pretender
05-26-2005, 08:41 PM
Way too many posts to read so I stop at page 2. That said, Ruiz will TKO this bum in 8 rounds no problem. Be ready for Ruiz to improve his title defenses 6-1 and 1 no contest.

slavik18
05-26-2005, 08:53 PM
Way too many posts to read so I stop at page 2. That said, Ruiz will TKO this bum in 8 rounds no problem. Be ready for Ruiz to improve his title defenses 6-1 and 1 no contest.

Haha, don't pay attention to this fool guys. He'll pick Ruiz vs Valuev, Tyson, Vitali all at the same time.

The Pretender
05-26-2005, 08:56 PM
Haha, don't pay attention to this fool guys. He'll pick Ruiz vs Valuev, Tyson, Vitali all at the same time.

Hey goldfish poop. Thought I pinched you off last week but guess you're one of those stubborn poops.

joeboxer
05-26-2005, 08:57 PM
The punches probably only looked like rabbit punches cause of his height, haha


No they were genuinly punches right into the back of his head/base of his skull.

If Valuev had done that to Joe Mesi, Mesi would be dead right now.

hollister
05-26-2005, 09:24 PM
you guys are way too carried away with valuev, he is nowhere near a world class fighter, he is a big slow plodding no talent bum. ruiz as bad as he looks would kayo valuev inside 6. valuev would be an unknown if he was normal height.


Here we go with this **** again, "If Valuev was normal height", "If the Klits weren't so tall", "If B-Hop weighed 215", this **** means nothing! The fighters are what they are! That's like a 5'6 guy telling a 6'4 guy "If I was bigger, I'd kick your ass!" Means nothing!

Valuev is a very large, cumbersome fighter with skills which are fairly impressive given his size, but that's about it. But if you've seen him fight, then you've seen him get hit, he almost always does. Have you ever even seen him stunned? Of course not!
Seriously, Ruiz KOing Valuev at all is really asking alot, especially inside 6. Valuev will probably be DQ'd for becoming frustrated and pushing Ruiz down.

TheKnifeManconi
05-26-2005, 09:29 PM
still waiting on you to drop a dime on me, pretender..

The Pretender
05-26-2005, 09:51 PM
still waiting on you to drop a dime on me, pretender..

What are you talking about, I havent caught back up on the other thread yet. I haven't got around to turning you in yet either but I'll get back to that momentarily. Unlike stupid kids like yourself I actually have responsibilities. You tell me what base you at yet? I'll go check.

The Troll
05-26-2005, 09:53 PM
Here is a German Model for you. That happens to be related to me because her last name is Lillig and there is only about 500 people in the world with that last name and my Grandmother is one of them. And she from the Moselle region same as my Grandmother who was born in Moselle Region. Everybody named Lillig is from the Moselle area either in Saarland in Germany or Lorraine in France more commonly. That picture of her is from next to the Moselle River.



http://www.nzsen.de/playmate/h_lillig.jpg

Yeah, pretender it would be better of you to say "Thank you Mr McKay" for uploading the Entinne vs Valuev fight but apparently this is something which you are not capabable of. You think that you might show some gratitude to me for uploading the last fight of your man's next challenger but apparentelty you lack the repoire to show such decency.


Sincerely, McKay

The Troll
05-26-2005, 09:53 PM
Here is a German Model for you. That happens to be related to me because her last name is Lillig and there is only about 500 people in the world with that last name and my Grandmother is one of them. And she from the Moselle region same as my Grandmother who was born in Moselle Region. Everybody named Lillig is from the Moselle area either in Saarland in Germany or Lorraine in France more commonly. That picture of her is from next to the Moselle River.



http://www.nzsen.de/playmate/h_lillig.jpg

Yeah, pretender it would be better of you to say "Thank you Mr McKay" for uploading the Entinne vs Valuev fight but apparently this is something which you are not capabable of. You would think that you might show some gratitude toward me for uploading the most recent fight of your man's next challenger but apparentelty you lack the man to man rapporte to show such decency.


Sincerely, McKay

The Pretender
05-26-2005, 10:52 PM
Yeah, pretender it would be better of you to say "Thank you Mr McKay" for uploading the Entinne vs Valuev fight but apparently this is something which you are not capabable of. You think that you might show some gratitude to me for uploading the last fight of your man's next challenger but apparentelty you lack the repoire to show such decency.


Dude there were 150 posts in this thread. I didn't see the video til just now but thx. Not much of a fight though. Talk about dirty as hell, that big guy just had his stupid glove in Etienne's face the whole time...such bull****. And the German ref didnt give a **** either, nor about any of the other **** like pushing him down or clocking him in the back of the head. The big guy should have been DQ.

Ruiz will win this fight because that big guy will be DQ if he pulls that **** in America. Without stuffing his glove like that he sucks ass.

hollister
05-26-2005, 11:05 PM
Ali held behind the head and stuck his glove in many of his opponents' faces, and never a word was said.

Stickman
05-26-2005, 11:10 PM
done any other analyzis youd like to enlighten us with, four eyes? :D
You mean other than noticing what an ass you are? No, nothing pertaining to the fight that was referenced. Maybe you need an extra pair of eyes too, if you couldn't pay any better attention to what happened during that fight than you have.

FYI

20/13 in left eye, 20/10 in right eye. I haven't needed glasses except for the last year, and that's only to see something closer than about 18" from my eyes. I can still see farther and in better detail than all but a few people out of every 10,000,000, so the term "Four Eyes" hardly applies...unless you're referring to the vastly superior intellect in comparison to yours, in which case you're correct.

TheKnifeManconi
05-26-2005, 11:15 PM
is that how euro boxing is always done?hitting behind head is allowed?

Michael Wittmann
05-27-2005, 10:23 AM
let me break it down for you mental dwarfs out there whore still having issues..

if youre a big guy - im a heavyweight myself, boxing a smaller opponent..

if you throw a wide hook and he at about the same time aproches you - hes bound to, being smaller - he nessecarily will have to be hit in the neck/back of the head - as one cannot recall that hook as its about to hit.

and any good ref knows this..

sweet dreams! :p

The Troll
05-27-2005, 10:27 AM
let me break it down for you mental dwarfs out there whore still having issues..

if youre a big guy - im a heavyweight myself, boxing a smaller opponent..

if you throw a wide hook and he at about the same time aproches you - hes bound to, being smaller - he nessecarily will have to be hit in the neck/back of the head - as one cannot recall that hook as its about to hit.

and any good ref knows this..

sweet dreams! :p

The damn knockout punch was a flagrant intentionale rabbit punch. That should have not been called a knockdown. A point should have been taken from Valuev and Entienne given 5 mineutes to recover.

I think what is going to do Valuev in is the fact is I dont think a guy of that size can stand to go at any kind of a high intensive rate of activity for 12 rounds. He would have to get tired by the 6th round at the latest....dead tired.

The Troll
05-27-2005, 10:29 AM
And here is the fight again for anybody that missed it yesterday. It is worth watching to just see the introduction. It is like Vegas non boxing show. The main event is the introduction and the actual fight is the undercard.

http://s11.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=...GY0OB3SN5EF7QXD

Michael Wittmann
05-27-2005, 10:32 AM
k..

what inspired you to post holyfields picture?

and..

your link is invalid.

The Troll
05-27-2005, 10:34 AM
The link is expired. It has been downloaded the maxium amount of times. And I just thought it was a funny picture.

The Teacher
05-27-2005, 10:47 AM
I got a new signature inspired by Salsa Teechur.

Thats not salsa anymore punk. Its the teacher to you.

Michael Wittmann
05-27-2005, 10:50 AM
yeah, and put that link back up too!

The Troll
05-27-2005, 10:52 AM
yeah, and put that link back up too!

The link is expired. I am not reupping it.

The Troll
05-27-2005, 11:01 AM
yeah, and put that link back up too!


Just goes to show what a dumbass you are. Arguing on behalf of Valuev when you have not even seen the rabbit punch in question or the fight in question.

Michael Wittmann
05-27-2005, 11:05 AM
the dumbass just needed 20min to formulate that response.. :D

ive seen parts of the fight - thankyou. ive seen many valuev fights and pretty much know the going.. :)

link is for people to laugh at your sissy opinions on boxing..

i dare you, put it up - let the world decide, little mckay..

The Troll
05-27-2005, 11:10 AM
the dumbass just needed 20min to formulate that response.. :D

ive seen parts of the fight - thankyou. ive seen many valuev fights and pretty much know the going.. :)

link is for people to laugh at your sissy opinions on boxing..

i dare you, put it up - let the world decide, little mckay..

I am not arguing with you anymore. If you want to see the fight so bad you should have downloaded the link yesterday. Or ask somebody esle who downloaded it yesterday to re up it. I am not doing **** on your behalf Wittmann. You are a f***ing troll on this website. If you were somebody I liked then I would re-up the link but a troll like you who comes here for no other reason that than to act like a little *****.....no way.

Now shew fly....Off with you to someplace else.

neils7147933
05-27-2005, 11:10 AM
I have seen Valuev vs. Levin, Dominguez, Nobles, and Etienne, and have no reason to believe he should be ranked in the Top 15. There's that one "he's a giant" shot that could make a fight interesting, but any ranked heavyweight should be able to outbox this guy, including Ruiz. Chris Byrd would win 120-108...

Ruiz might get a DQ win over him as well; he tends to bait guys into fouling (Golota, Johnson)

Leo Pradun
05-27-2005, 11:26 AM
why dont all ya just stop bull****ting Valuev knocked thsi fool out in 4, thats pretty damn impressive. Valuev will whoop on Ruiz and thats the botom line