boxrec.com just now put up an all time ranking list u can look at when u go to the ratings tab heres there top 50 in order


Muhammad Ali 2,161 1960 - 1981 56-5-0

2 Rocky Marciano 2,148 1947 - 1955 49-0-0

3 Sonny Liston 2,102 1953 - 1970 50-4-0

4 Floyd Patterson 2,043 1952 - 1972 55-8-1

5 Joe Frazier 2,037 1965 - 1981 32-4-1

6 George Foreman 2,036 1969 - 1997 76-5-0

7 Ingemar Johansson 2,025 1952 - 1963 26-2-0

8 Ezzard Charles 1,993 1940 - 1959 97-25-1

9 Lennox Lewis 1,968 1989 - 2003 41-2-1

10 Jimmy Bivins 1,964 1940 - 1955 86-25-1

11 Joe Louis 1,959 1934 - 1951 68-3-0

12 Larry Holmes 1,953 1973 - 2002 69-6-0

13 Jersey Joe Walcott 1,948 1930 - 1953 51-18-2

14 James (Buster) Douglas 1,932 1981 - 1999 38-6-1

15 Gene Tunney 1,921 1915 - 1928 72-2-1

16 Max Baer 1,917 1929 - 1941 71-13-0

17 Jack Sharkey 1,914 1924 - 1936 37-14-3

18 Al McCoy 1,901 1928 - 1942 114-32-20

19 Max Schmeling 1,900 1924 - 1948 56-10-4

20 Michael Moorer 1,900 1988 - 2004 47-4-1

21 Ken Norton 1,888 1967 - 1981 42-7-1

22 Primo Carnera 1,880 1928 - 1946 88-15-0

23 Ed (Gunboat) Smith 1,876 1909 - 1921 73-43-13

24 Niño Valdes 1,863 1941 - 1959 48-19-2

25 Billy Miske 1,862 1913 - 1923 69-14-13

26 Harry Wills 1,859 1911 - 1932 77-9-3

27 Lee Q Murray 1,854 1939 - 1952 60-17-3

28 Sam Langford 1,847 1902 - 1926 197-46-44

29 Rex Layne 1,845 1949 - 1956 50-17-3

30 Leonard Morrow 1,845 1946 - 1954 27-8-1

31 Stanley Poreda 1,844 1929 - 1935 24-10-0

32 Young Stribling 1,843 1921 - 1933 239-14-14

33 Johnny Risko 1,839 1923 - 1940 78-50-8

34 Elmer (Violent) Ray 1,835 1926 - 1949 86-13-1

35 Ernie Schaaf 1,826 1927 - 1933 57-15-2

36 Henry Cooper 1,825 1954 - 1971 40-14-1

37 Tony Galento 1,825 1928 - 1944 76-26-5

38 John Tate 1,824 1977 - 1988 34-3-0

39 Zora Folley 1,809 1953 - 1970 79-11-6

40 Tommy Morrison 1,809 1988 - 1996 46-3-1

41 Tommy (Hurricane) Jackson 1,808 1952 - 1960 34-9-1

42 George Godfrey 1,806 1919 - 1937 98-20-2

43 Jerry Quarry 1,806 1965 - 1992 53-9-4

44 Lee Oma 1,798 1939 - 1951 65-28-3

45 King Levinsky 1,794 1929 - 1939 60-32-5

46 Art Lasky 1,790 1930 - 1939 41-9-5

47 Ray Mercer 1,789 1989 - 2004 33-5-1

48 Jimmy Young 1,789 1969 - 1988 34-19-2

49 Joe Bugner 1,788 1967 - 1999 69-13-1

50 Leroy Haynes 1,787 1930 - 1941 42-22-3


also do not i repeat do not go to there welterweight all time list i repeat do not

i dont get it, holy and tyson arent on the list but mercer, morrison and moorer are??????

boxrec's rankings are based purely on number crunching. I think they just take the records of the guys each fighter beat and use them to create a statistic, sort of the way they have the computer rankings in college football.

Obviously these rankings are a little off, to say the least, but it's still interesting to see the way the numbers turn out.

they have jack johnson and demplsy rated at 67 and 68

i dont get it, holy and tyson arent on the list but mercer, morrison and moorer are??????
They are not on the list as they are still active. I think they only show boxers who retired.

moorer is still active, he just KO'd jirov

Moorer retired last month

I like Floyd Patterson and Sonny Liston high up as they are two of my all time favorite heavyweights, but I certainly dont know about Henry Cooper of Jack Dempsey. I think they probably overrate fighters in the 'Ali' era of boxing as there a number of guys who fought Ali (such as Cooper) who seem to be higher up then they deserve.

First I wondered where Ruiz was, then realized the list was only for retired boxers, not those who are still champs. When he retires he'll be top 15 for sure.

If Ruiz is not in the top two all time then it would be an absolute robbery. Although, Ali might still have the top spot.

Moorer retired last month
Thank you :-)

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?p=665990#post665990 , one things for sure, all the #1's deserve a top ten ranking atleast. :D :boxing: :bottle:

If Ruiz is not in the top two all time then it would be an absolute robbery. Although, Ali might still have the top spot.
For your own sake, I hope you're being sarcastic

why is joe louis is so low, 11th....
that's bull****!

No Tyson, No Holyfield??

Wow this list blows! Buster Douglas at 14! Gimme a break.

boxrec.com just now put up an all time ranking list u can look at when u go to the ratings tab heres there top 50 in order


Muhammad Ali 2,161 1960 - 1981 56-5-0

2 Rocky Marciano 2,148 1947 - 1955 49-0-0

3 Sonny Liston 2,102 1953 - 1970 50-4-0

4 Floyd Patterson 2,043 1952 - 1972 55-8-1

5 Joe Frazier 2,037 1965 - 1981 32-4-1

6 George Foreman 2,036 1969 - 1997 76-5-0

7 Ingemar Johansson 2,025 1952 - 1963 26-2-0

8 Ezzard Charles 1,993 1940 - 1959 97-25-1

9 Lennox Lewis 1,968 1989 - 2003 41-2-1

10 Jimmy Bivins 1,964 1940 - 1955 86-25-1

11 Joe Louis 1,959 1934 - 1951 68-3-0

12 Larry Holmes 1,953 1973 - 2002 69-6-0

13 Jersey Joe Walcott 1,948 1930 - 1953 51-18-2

14 James (Buster) Douglas 1,932 1981 - 1999 38-6-1

15 Gene Tunney 1,921 1915 - 1928 72-2-1

16 Max Baer 1,917 1929 - 1941 71-13-0

17 Jack Sharkey 1,914 1924 - 1936 37-14-3

18 Al McCoy 1,901 1928 - 1942 114-32-20

19 Max Schmeling 1,900 1924 - 1948 56-10-4

20 Michael Moorer 1,900 1988 - 2004 47-4-1

21 Ken Norton 1,888 1967 - 1981 42-7-1

22 Primo Carnera 1,880 1928 - 1946 88-15-0

23 Ed (Gunboat) Smith 1,876 1909 - 1921 73-43-13

24 Niño Valdes 1,863 1941 - 1959 48-19-2

25 Billy Miske 1,862 1913 - 1923 69-14-13

26 Harry Wills 1,859 1911 - 1932 77-9-3

27 Lee Q Murray 1,854 1939 - 1952 60-17-3

28 Sam Langford 1,847 1902 - 1926 197-46-44

29 Rex Layne 1,845 1949 - 1956 50-17-3

30 Leonard Morrow 1,845 1946 - 1954 27-8-1

31 Stanley Poreda 1,844 1929 - 1935 24-10-0

32 Young Stribling 1,843 1921 - 1933 239-14-14

33 Johnny Risko 1,839 1923 - 1940 78-50-8

34 Elmer (Violent) Ray 1,835 1926 - 1949 86-13-1

35 Ernie Schaaf 1,826 1927 - 1933 57-15-2

36 Henry Cooper 1,825 1954 - 1971 40-14-1

37 Tony Galento 1,825 1928 - 1944 76-26-5

38 John Tate 1,824 1977 - 1988 34-3-0

39 Zora Folley 1,809 1953 - 1970 79-11-6

40 Tommy Morrison 1,809 1988 - 1996 46-3-1

41 Tommy (Hurricane) Jackson 1,808 1952 - 1960 34-9-1

42 George Godfrey 1,806 1919 - 1937 98-20-2

43 Jerry Quarry 1,806 1965 - 1992 53-9-4

44 Lee Oma 1,798 1939 - 1951 65-28-3

45 King Levinsky 1,794 1929 - 1939 60-32-5

46 Art Lasky 1,790 1930 - 1939 41-9-5

47 Ray Mercer 1,789 1989 - 2004 33-5-1

48 Jimmy Young 1,789 1969 - 1988 34-19-2

49 Joe Bugner 1,788 1967 - 1999 69-13-1

50 Leroy Haynes 1,787 1930 - 1941 42-22-3


also do not i repeat do not go to there welterweight all time list i repeat do not

That is discgraceful man

I think we should just rely on their records and leave the rankings to the ring magazine:D lol

Karma for you man

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?p=665990#post665990 , one things for sure, all the #1's deserve a top ten ranking atleast. :D :boxing: :bottle:
That was the most discgraceful list

Trinidad #1 welterweight EVER?>

LOL!!!!!!

Robinson would ko him in less than 3