what if ike didnt go to jail and face vitali presently, who will win?

ike is the sort of fighter that vitali has not faced,and that's a guy with good power, above average/good hand speed, good chin, and a relentless punch output, i think he would lose the first few rounds but finally get to VK and possibly knock him out late in the fight, Ike KO 11

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Ikes pressure,power and solid chin would be too much for the tall stiff punching Klitschko.Ike would stop him on cuts,or cut him up and stop him by the middle rounds.

Tyson KO1

but seriously, that would be a good fight...I can't imagine someone like Ike who took those shots from Tua and still standing in the end being stopped by Vitali...Ike can crack, good speed, determination...Vitali can be pressured into a brawl like we saw vs Sanders and can get hit if the opponent is fast enough and willing to get at him...

Vitali uses his reach and height well when avoid punches and he throws odd punches from various angles...

this is a tough one, but I would go with Vitali only because we have seen more from Vitali recently

VK by ko ore tko in 8th rounds.

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ike is everything sam peeter wishes he could be, he knocks frankenstein's ass out by the 10th round. ike probably would lose the first four rounds, then as he gets closer and closer and lands those big punches to the body, Vitali gets worn down round by round and finally knocked out

Ike by KO. Ike's handspeed was phenomenal for a heayweight his size & is still the only man to KO Byrd. VK wouldn't know what to do against a hard hitting pressure fighter like Ike & would definitely get his chin checked.

neither man has fought someone like the other...

so it is not only Vitali vs someone like Ike which he has never faced before...but Ike vs someone like Vitali which he has never faced before...

and you said vs present Vitali who has already been through a few big fights...

Yeah...Vitali would present Ike many problems too especially since he can take a good shot and he is economical on the outside with his punches.

Ike had all of the makings to be an excellent HW. Great chin, good stamina, good power, good handspeed, etc etc. The 2 things I thought stood out about him the most however were his ring intelligence and ability to effectively throw punches in combination. Ike had a good jab and threw straights and follow up hooks behind it efficiently. He showed that he can be patient as well by figuring out a smart, quick Byrd and detonating that well placed uppercut on his chin.

I think that the Ike who beat Byrd and Tua would stop Vitali late or take a decision in a good action fight.

when does Ike get outta jail

ike is everything sam peeter wishes he could be, he knocks frankenstein's ass out by the 10th round. ike probably would lose the first four rounds, then as he gets closer and closer and lands those big punches to the body, Vitali gets worn down round by round and finally knocked out

so this is ur theory on how to KO VK?
interesting.. I wonder if any boxers have already tried it?

so this is ur theory on how to KO VK?
interesting.. I wonder if any boxers have already tried it?



lennox lewis :D

lewis vs. ike? if the fanatsy fight happend before? who will win?

when does Ike get outta jail


3yrs maybe

lennox lewis :D


i dont recall lennox lewis KOing vitali, only his ass being saved by cut.


its a shame how abotu miek weaver or that primo guy vs vitali huh? seem just about everybody can beat vitali

lewis vs. ike? if the fanatsy fight happend before? who will win?
well that would basically be like the vitali klitschko fight because lewis and VK have very similar styles

not realy, lewis had better on punch power, lewis is smaller, VK has a lot better chin and a more unorthodox style.

Vitali knocks Ike out late. Ike lost like 2 rounds to Byrd in a 5 round fight. I saw Ikes fight against Byrd, and he was just to crazy with his punches. I know that Byrd is slick and all and made him miss, but he was still to wild with those punches. If Byrd had power it could've been lights out for Ike early. Ike would throw a lot of punches and miss against Vitali and Vitali would make him pay for every missed shot.

Vitali by 11th round TKO.

Vitali knocks Ike out late. Ike lost like 2 rounds to Byrd in a 5 round fight. I saw Ikes fight against Byrd, and he was just to crazy with his punches. I know that Byrd is slick and all and made him miss, but he was still to wild with those punches. If Byrd had power it could've been lights out for Ike early. Ike would throw a lot of punches and miss against Vitali and Vitali would make him pay for every missed shot.

Vitali by 11th round TKO.

Watch Ike's fight against Tua. He fought a disciplined fight because he respected his power. He not only used the jab but he hooked to the body & head very effectively. The same would go for VK if they had ever fought. He knew Byrd couldn't hurt him so he was swinging for the fences.

Vitali isnt david tua by any means!!! or course u can jab and body shot tua he sucks and all eh can do is knock bums liek ruiz out in 16 secs :p he is the definition of 1 dimensinal(sp)

Vitali isnt david tua by any means!!! or course u can jab and body shot tua he sucks and all eh can do is knock bums liek ruiz out in 16 secs :p he is the definition of 1 dimensinal(sp)

Back then in my eyes Tua was better because he threw in combos, not just one punch at a time which he's been doing for the last few years. He was way more fundamentally sound than now. If you read the post correctly, the comparison came from Ike respecting the power of his opponents. Not comparing the two fighters.

if ike would have came out of prison and had the same power and speed that he had before he went to prison, there would be no fighter in the HW division that could beat him.he was a nightmare.when he KOed byrd i thought he had broke his neck.and even though i find byrd is a boring HW,he still has alot of skills.he has the fastest hands and movement in the HW.and if ike was fast enough to catch him, that leads me to believe there isnt anyone in the HW that he couldnt connect with.he would go through the HW division like a hot knife through butter.and just curious how many people in here believe that ike done what they say he done to end up in prison?

Watch Ike's fight against Tua. He fought a disciplined fight because he respected his power. He not only used the jab but he hooked to the body & head very effectively. The same would go for VK if they had ever fought. He knew Byrd couldn't hurt him so he was swinging for the fences.

Vitali isn't 5'9 with like a 20 inch reach. What makes you think Ike would be able to land any of his punches effectively?




PS He wasnt swinging for the fences because Byrd couldn't hurt him, he was swinging for the fences because Byrd was frustrating him throughout the whole fight. He frequently missed and than got instructions from his corner to hit wherever shoulder, arm, chest etc...

so you are telling us that working byrd and stopping him is a bad is a bad fight.

well vk was cautios so cautios that he fought too many rounds with byrd (while winning them), if he cuold stop him earlier he would have won.

ike would land to the body because he had enough chin and speed to reach the body (and his corner wouls tell him to, hopefully).

pounding the body will tire vk (like anyone), and in the later part of the fight ike would win rounds and we would get to a decision (i exclude ike getting koed and pretty much the same applies to vk)

now what would it be like? it really dwpends on when the momentum shifts and when the judges perceive the shift.

I think it would be a close affair and since the slow work on the body needed to get to pressure and tire vk would not impress the vegas judges vk would most likely get the W, even in the case in which he actually won less rounds

well they're both big akward guys with good jabs, and both use their size too good advantage, the general consensus would be that lewis has more power, however you cannot overlook klitschko's KO percentage, and also bear in mind that most of lewis's knockouts cme early,but many of VK's have came late
[quote leff] lewis had better on punch power