View Full Version : I understand now why ODH wanted no Winky.


SnoopySmurf
05-24-2005, 10:15 AM
I understand now why Oscar wanted no part of Winky. The man is an iron clad defense with a bazooka jab. Winky does fight one dimensional which no one yet can solve. Perhaps a younger faster RJJ could have won on points. Winky's worst enemy is himself, when he gets complacent like he did against Vargas.

Sweet science of a fighter. Purists love him. Most find him kinda boring when compared to the likes of Sugar Ray Robinson, Ray Leonard and Roberto Duran.

Anyway, that's my post of the day! Now back to work for me. :p

spinksjinx
05-24-2005, 10:19 AM
I wouldnt necessairly call Winky one dimensional, he fights a traditional style and the way boxing is meant to be fought. Tight defense and strong offense.

Winky can bang if he wants he did it against Mosley.

SnoopySmurf
05-24-2005, 10:28 AM
I wouldnt necessairly call Winky one dimensional, he fights a traditional style and the way boxing is meant to be fought. Tight defense and strong offense.

Winky can bang if he wants he did it against Mosley.

I call it one dimensional coz I've never seen him throw a 4 combo punch. Never. Granted, I've seen only 5 of his fights and seriously, he never changed his style. That's what I mean about one dimensional. It's not necessarily a bad thing.

spinksjinx
05-24-2005, 10:29 AM
I call it one dimensional coz I've never seen him throw a 4 combo punch. Never. Granted, I've seen only 5 of his fights and seriously, he never changed his style. That's what I mean about one dimensional. It's not necessarily a bad thing.


Ohh I know what you are talking about and it isnt bad because it is effective. It isnt like saying Gatti or Pacquiao is one dimensional, because there styles are bad but Winkys is good.

AintGottaClue
05-24-2005, 10:45 AM
of course DLh wants noone of winky. exhibbit A: Felix Sturm

spinksjinx
05-24-2005, 10:50 AM
of course DLh wants noone of winky. exhibbit A: Felix Sturm


DLH cant deal with people who fights the same way he does, if you have a jab you will defeat De la hoya.

jack_the_rippuh
05-24-2005, 10:51 AM
Yo, Sturm Lover, it's time to stop dwelling on that fight. Sturm could have easily made that fight a fight where the judges wouldn't have a chance to make the verdict, and he could have been more aggressive also, but he didn't....he ****ed up. Now he's fighting guys you and I never heard of. That doesn't seem like the route someone who felt they were cheated would take. But anyway....

...If you think for one second that Oscar De La Hoya would have gotten dominated like Félix Trinidad did, you're dead wrong.

If you ask me Oscar a couple years ago could hang with him. I mean Winky does like to press the action by coming forward, but I don't think he uses his size effective enough.

AintGottaClue
05-24-2005, 11:19 AM
Yo, Sturm Lover, it's time to stop dwelling on that fight. Sturm could have easily made that fight a fight where the judges wouldn't have a chance to make the verdict, and he could have been more aggressive also, but he didn't....he ****ed up. Now he's fighting guys you and I never heard of. That doesn't seem like the route someone who felt they were cheated would take. But anyway....

...If you think for one second that Oscar De La Hoya would have gotten dominated like Félix Trinidad did, you're dead wrong.

If you ask me Oscar a couple years ago could hang with him. I mean Winky does like to press the action by coming forward, but I don't think he uses his size effective enough.


ya he aint fightign big names, is it his fault? tito took winky and B hop took taylor sturm was always in the second spot as an oppenet, he is gettign his wba title soon then someone has to fight sturm,

spinksjinx
05-24-2005, 11:28 AM
ya he aint fightign big names, is it his fault? tito took winky and B hop took taylor sturm was always in the second spot as an oppenet, he is gettign his wba title soon then someone has to fight sturm,

Kingsley Ikeke
Howard Eastman
Sam Soliman
Ike Quartey
Kelly Pavlik
Antwun Echols
Robert Allen
Aaron Mitchell
Daniel Edouard
Ray Joval


All would be available and credible opponents for Sturm.

AintGottaClue
05-24-2005, 11:32 AM
Kingsley Ikeke
Howard Eastman
Sam Soliman
Ike Quartey
Kelly Pavlik
Antwun Echols
Robert Allen
Aaron Mitchell
Daniel Edouard
Ray Joval


All would be available and credible opponents for Sturm.

which would be great for him to fight, but as of now half of them just fought, maybe after sturms next fight he can get one fo them, but it doenst matter if sturm fights anyone one of them guys peopel will say there garbage or old and proves nothing, hell sturm could fight B-hop and they'll say o its B-hop he's old no big deal.

RussianArm
05-24-2005, 11:36 AM
It's interesting the old commentator with the gray hair compared his boxing style directly to that of Vitali Klitschko.

spinksjinx
05-24-2005, 11:37 AM
which would be great for him to fight, but as of now half of them just fought, maybe after sturms next fight he can get one fo them, but it doenst matter if sturm fights anyone one of them guys peopel will say there garbage or old and proves nothing, hell sturm could fight B-hop and they'll say o its B-hop he's old no big deal.


I wont trash Sturm, I think he has tremendous skills and I think he is letting it go to waste fighting overseas. He needs to get an american promoter or demand fights in the U.S., at this point Sturm is wasted potential.

SnoopySmurf
05-24-2005, 02:25 PM
Ohh I know what you are talking about and it isnt bad because it is effective. It isnt like saying Gatti or Pacquiao is one dimensional, because there styles are bad but Winkys is good.

Like I said, "It isn't necessarily a bad thing." Do you understand that? Because of his style, Winky's never had to stray too far from it to win fights. As you know, styles make fights. Marquez would LOVE to fight Pacquiao. It suits him fine. Pacquiao would love to fight Barrera. MAB's style suits him well.

For Winky, because he's so impeccable with this classic defensive style, many different fighters fail to beat him. He has the fundementals of boxing perfected. Fighters who do not have those fundementals in the long run will lose more fights. RJJ and Mosely are two good examples of fighters who rely on speed and less on fundementals. They rarely jab. They don't always keep their hands up. As they got older, they got slower. Without the fundementals, they became vulnerable and look what happened.

ottoevans
05-24-2005, 03:30 PM
but the biggest reason Oscar didnt want to fight Winky............................................. ......................................... Nobody know who he was nor did anybody wanna see it.